History Creator / GeorgeLucas

13th Sep '17 11:58:43 PM himmelicht
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* CreatorBreakdown:
** His divorce from Marcia is often considered one. He actually tried to {{Unperson}} her contributions to the ''Star Wars'' franchise for several years afterwards, and was quite frustrated that he couldn't do anything about her Oscar win for editing the first one.
** He seemed to let the Fan Dumb of the ''Star Wars'' prequels get to him over time, which probably showed the most in the "Why would I make any more [''Star Wars'' movies], when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?" quote.



* FanNickname: TheMaker, especially by the fan organization the 501st. Also known to some elements of the fandom as "The Flannelled One", after his love of flannel shirts.



* FlipFlopOfGod: Some of his ideas about what his "original vision" were, although a lot of this was exaggerated by the fandom. He does not say that every change was his original vision or that the prequels were intricately mapped out ahead of time, only that specific items were unable to be realized at the time.



* OldShame:
** Has said he wishes to hunt down every copy of ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' and destroy it, [[MisBlamed even though he wasn't directly involved with it.]]
** Also, he's not proud of ''Film/HowardTheDuck''.



* TheOtherDarrin: A trope he seems to despise using unless absolutely necessary. Lucas has said that before he started searching for a company to sell his own to, he had contacted Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford, essentially saying that if they didn't have an interest in coming back for the next trilogy, he could write their characters out.



* ProductionPosse: With Creator/HarrisonFord, albeit not intentionally. They got along well as friends but he didn't want Ford to be a part of all his movies, like Creator/MartinScorsese had done with Creator/{{Robert DeNiro}}. But they brought in Ford to read for Han Solo just in the casting process and the crew fell in love with his take on the character. For ''Franchise/IndianaJones'', scheduling issues with Creator/TomSelleck led them back to Ford once more.



* TributeToFido: In the 1970s, he had a dog called Indiana, who helped inspire two characters of his: ''Franchise/StarWars''' Chewbacca (being a big, furry dog that always sat up front with in his car) and the titular Franchise/IndianaJones (referenced in ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade'', where we find out [[WeNamedTheMonkeyJack Indy took the nickname from his childhood dog]]).



* TrollingCreator: One possible interpretation of his more recent behavior. Then again, if ''you'' had a fanbase [[UnpleasableFanbase like that]], you would too.
* UncreditedRole:
** He had a brief uncredited cameo in ''Film/{{Hook}}'', alongside Creator/CarrieFisher.
** He was executive producer on Creator/LawrenceKasdan's ''Film/BodyHeat'', mainly as a favor for Kasdan's help with the script for ''Return of the Jedi''. Lucas went uncredited because he didn't want his work on an erotic thriller film to affect his family-friendly reputation from the first two Star Wars films.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Or in this case, what might ''not'' have been. Lucas abandoned his quest to become a race car driver due to a near-fatal accident. If he hadn't had the accident, he might have become a race car driver. On the other hand, he might have died. Eerily enough, he survived because a special protector for race cars that he'd installed ''failed'' and he was thrown from the car before its final impact, hitting a walnut tree hard enough to rip out half its roots.
** John Milius first wrote the script for ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' while he and Lucas were at USC together, intending for Lucas to direct it. Francis Ford Coppola later joked that this would have involved CaliforniaDoubling with just two helicopters. Some reviews of ''Return of the Jedi'' also pointed out that the scenes on Endor were pretty much Lucas finally making his Vietnam movie.
** He offered Disney several ideas for their ''Star Wars'' films upon turning over the rights, and was quite upset that ''none'' of them were used.
** In a rare case of him completely missing the boat on an emerging new technology, he turned down the chance to get in on the ground floor at Pixar when some of the Lucasarts employees got involved with it.
6th Sep '17 4:07:19 AM Folamh3
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* ''Film/RedTails'': Producer and uncredited co-director.

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* ''Film/RedTails'': Producer and uncredited [[UncreditedRole uncredited]] co-director.



* UncreditedRole: He had a brief uncredited cameo in ''Film/{{Hook}}'', alongside Creator/CarrieFisher.

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He had a brief uncredited cameo in ''Film/{{Hook}}'', alongside Creator/CarrieFisher.Creator/CarrieFisher.
** He was executive producer on Creator/LawrenceKasdan's ''Film/BodyHeat'', mainly as a favor for Kasdan's help with the script for ''Return of the Jedi''. Lucas went uncredited because he didn't want his work on an erotic thriller film to affect his family-friendly reputation from the first two Star Wars films.
3rd Sep '17 8:28:54 PM gjjones
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* ControlFreak: And how! The reason he largely stopped directing after the first ''Star Wars'' is that his obsessive need to control every single aspect of production when he was in the role was seriously affecting his health after just three films.

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* ControlFreak: And how! Big time! The reason he largely stopped directing after the first ''Star Wars'' is that his obsessive need to control every single aspect of production when he was in the role was seriously affecting his health after just three films.
3rd Sep '17 8:27:32 PM gjjones
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** He seemed to let the FanDumb of the ''Star Wars'' prequels get to him over time, which probably showed the most in the "Why would I make any more [''Star Wars'' movies], when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?" quote.

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** He seemed to let the FanDumb Fan Dumb of the ''Star Wars'' prequels get to him over time, which probably showed the most in the "Why would I make any more [''Star Wars'' movies], when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?" quote.



* FanDumb: With a generous helping of BrokenBase and InternetBacklash. It's one of the reasons he soured on continuing to produce StarWars films.
16th Aug '17 1:12:15 PM Folamh3
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* UncreditedRole: He had a brief uncredited cameo in ''Film/{{Hook}}'', alongside Creator/CarrieFisher.
1st Aug '17 8:24:20 AM gjjones
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* CreatorBreakdown:
** His divorce from Marcia is often considered one. He actually tried to {{Unperson}} her contributions to the ''Star Wars'' franchise for several years afterwards, and was quite frustrated that he couldn't do anything about her Oscar win for editing the first one.
** He seemed to let the FanDumb of the ''Star Wars'' prequels get to him over time, which probably showed the most in the "Why would I make any more [''Star Wars'' movies], when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?" quote.


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* FanNickname: TheMaker, especially by the fan organization the 501st. Also known to some elements of the fandom as "The Flannelled One", after his love of flannel shirts.


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* FlipFlopOfGod: Some of his ideas about what his "original vision" were, although a lot of this was exaggerated by the fandom. He does not say that every change was his original vision or that the prequels were intricately mapped out ahead of time, only that specific items were unable to be realized at the time.


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* OldShame:
** Has said he wishes to hunt down every copy of ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' and destroy it, [[MisBlamed even though he wasn't directly involved with it.]]
** Also, he's not proud of ''Film/HowardTheDuck''.


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* ProductionPosse: With Creator/HarrisonFord, albeit not intentionally. They got along well as friends but he didn't want Ford to be a part of all his movies, like Creator/MartinScorsese had done with Creator/{{Robert DeNiro}}. But they brought in Ford to read for Han Solo just in the casting process and the crew fell in love with his take on the character. For ''Franchise/IndianaJones'', scheduling issues with Creator/TomSelleck led them back to Ford once more.


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* TributeToFido: In the 1970s, he had a dog called Indiana, who helped inspire two characters of his: ''Franchise/StarWars''' Chewbacca (being a big, furry dog that always sat up front with in his car) and the titular Franchise/IndianaJones (referenced in ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade'', where we find out [[WeNamedTheMonkeyJack Indy took the nickname from his childhood dog]]).


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* TrollingCreator: One possible interpretation of his more recent behavior. Then again, if ''you'' had a fanbase [[UnpleasableFanbase like that]], you would too.


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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Or in this case, what might ''not'' have been. Lucas abandoned his quest to become a race car driver due to a near-fatal accident. If he hadn't had the accident, he might have become a race car driver. On the other hand, he might have died. Eerily enough, he survived because a special protector for race cars that he'd installed ''failed'' and he was thrown from the car before its final impact, hitting a walnut tree hard enough to rip out half its roots.
** John Milius first wrote the script for ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' while he and Lucas were at USC together, intending for Lucas to direct it. Francis Ford Coppola later joked that this would have involved CaliforniaDoubling with just two helicopters. Some reviews of ''Return of the Jedi'' also pointed out that the scenes on Endor were pretty much Lucas finally making his Vietnam movie.
** He offered Disney several ideas for their ''Star Wars'' films upon turning over the rights, and was quite upset that ''none'' of them were used.
** In a rare case of him completely missing the boat on an emerging new technology, he turned down the chance to get in on the ground floor at Pixar when some of the Lucasarts employees got involved with it.
24th Jul '17 11:03:36 AM passivesmoking
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To create his vision for ''Star Wars'', George formed the FX studio Creator/IndustrialLightAndMagic and they revolutionized special effects and post-production techniques. Before, the "spaceship flyby" effect was accomplished by pulling a model ship across a starfield backdrop with a string; very limiting, ''very'' cheap and unconvincing. George worked with John Dykstra to leave the model static, put it against a bluescreen, and move the camera around ''it'' (preventing the shaky look of moving models).

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To create his vision for ''Star Wars'', George formed the FX studio Creator/IndustrialLightAndMagic and they revolutionized special effects and post-production techniques. Before, the "spaceship flyby" effect was accomplished by pulling a model ship across a starfield backdrop with a string; very limiting, ''very'' cheap and unconvincing. George worked with John Dykstra to leave the model static, put it against a bluescreen, and move the camera around ''it'' (preventing the shaky look of moving models).
models). Another innovation that Dykstra and Lucas brought to the table was putting the camera movements under the control of a computer, which could be programmed to move the camera a certain way and then repeat that movement perfectly dozens of times over. This let them do a shot of one model, switch the model for a different one and repeat the shot, replace the second model with a third, etc. When the individual shots were composited together the models looked like they were all part of the same shot. The computer controlled camera was precise enough to avoid the kinds of mismatches that previous attempts to composite multiple model shots together led to.
13th Mar '17 3:39:37 PM rjd1922
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George is infamous for his iron-fisted grip on the ''Star Wars'' franchise. This may be from Warner Bros.'s ExecutiveMeddling in ''THX-1138'' to cut it down and reduce its marketing budget. It may also stem from the disastrous ''Star Wars Holiday Special'' and also how in its original conception, nobody really understood Lucas re-imagination of the space opera genre and he felt overly protective to ensure that the franchise didn't simply decay into another sci-fi serial. He is known these days for being a ScapegoatCreator in the eyes of his fans who, since the 90s, have blamed the perceived faults of the series on Lucas' failures. Among certain Star Wars fans, Lucas is considered a great producer who works best when he simply oversees his staff developing his general ideas with the likes of Creator/LawrenceKasdan doing script rewrites, but falters without a strong staff or excellent collaborators to make his ideas work.

He's infamous for writing cheesy dialogue -- during the filming of ''A New Hope'', Creator/MarkHamill is alleged to have told him that "people don't talk like this!", Creator/HarrisonFord complained "you can type this shit, George, but you sure can't say it"[[note]]Of course, Ford and other collaborators were bothered with the general science-fiction and space opera setting which they couldn't properly comprehend until they had seen the finished result[[/note]]. ''Empire'' co-writer Creator/LawrenceKasdan recalled frequently saying "This is a terrible scene, I can't believe George wrote this" while reading Lucas' earlier drafts. Even Lucas [[SelfDeprecation called himself]] "the King of Wooden Dialogue". Of course, this is where Kasdan made a name for himself in the sequels reworking that dreck into lovely dialogue. He also seems to have a fondness for cute alien critters, a fondness which many older ''Star Wars'' fans don't share. This, has contributed to the sizeable {{Hatedom}} he seems to have gathered and the [[BrokenBase fracturing]] of the ''Franchise/StarWars'' fandom between older fans (who grew up with the first three movies) and younger ones (who grew up with the prequel trilogy and animated series).

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George is infamous for his iron-fisted grip on the ''Star Wars'' franchise. This may be from Warner Bros.'s ExecutiveMeddling in ''THX-1138'' ''THX 1138'' to cut it down and reduce its marketing budget. It may also stem from the disastrous ''Star ''[[Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial Star Wars Holiday Special'' Special]]'' and also how in its original conception, nobody really understood Lucas re-imagination of the space opera genre and he felt overly protective to ensure that the franchise didn't simply decay into another sci-fi serial. He is known these days for being a ScapegoatCreator in the eyes of his fans who, since the 90s, have blamed the perceived faults of the series on Lucas' failures. Among certain Star Wars ''Star Wars'' fans, Lucas is considered a great producer who works best when he simply oversees his staff developing his general ideas with the likes of Creator/LawrenceKasdan doing script rewrites, but falters without a strong staff or excellent collaborators to make his ideas work.

He's infamous for writing cheesy dialogue -- during the filming of ''A New Hope'', ''Film/ANewHope'', Creator/MarkHamill is alleged to have told him that "people don't talk like this!", Creator/HarrisonFord complained "you can type this shit, George, but you sure can't say it"[[note]]Of course, Ford and other collaborators were bothered with the general science-fiction and space opera setting which they couldn't properly comprehend until they had seen the finished result[[/note]]. ''Empire'' co-writer Creator/LawrenceKasdan recalled frequently saying "This is a terrible scene, I can't believe George wrote this" while reading Lucas' earlier drafts. Even Lucas [[SelfDeprecation called himself]] "the King of Wooden Dialogue". Of course, this is where Kasdan made a name for himself in the sequels reworking that dreck into lovely dialogue. He also seems to have a fondness for cute alien critters, a fondness which many older ''Star Wars'' fans don't share. This, has contributed to the sizeable {{Hatedom}} he seems to have gathered and the [[BrokenBase fracturing]] of the ''Franchise/StarWars'' fandom between older fans (who grew up with the first three movies) and younger ones (who grew up with the prequel trilogy and animated series).
22nd Feb '17 3:49:19 PM PrincessGwen
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* TheOtherDarrin: A trope he seems to despise using unless absolutly necessary. Lucas has said that before he started searching for a company to sell his own to, he had contacted Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford, essentially saying that if they didn't have an interest in coming back for the next trilogy, he could write their characters out.

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* TheOtherDarrin: A trope he seems to despise using unless absolutly absolutely necessary. Lucas has said that before he started searching for a company to sell his own to, he had contacted Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford, essentially saying that if they didn't have an interest in coming back for the next trilogy, he could write their characters out.
22nd Feb '17 3:38:43 PM TheFlash
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* InsultBackfire: The "Why would I make any more [''Star Wars'' movies]" example listed above? It was supposed to highlight all the grief the fandom had given him over the prequel trilogy, but let's just say it didn't go unnoticed when the general reaction to his statement was a resounding, "Good!"
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