History Creator / FourKidsEntertainment

26th Dec '17 7:56:20 PM gjjones
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* ContractualPurity: Averted. Andrew Rannells currently stars in ''Series/TheNewNormal'' and previously ''Theatre/TheBookOfMormon'', some of their [=VAs=] have done hentai (Creator/DanGreen, for example), and Creator/JasonGriffith did a condom commercial.
** People more savvy of the industry may realize that most of the company's current VA's have worked at Creator/CentralParkMedia before (and this includes Dan Green as well); CPM distributed uncut productions mostly for pre-teen to older audiences, such as ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' among others.
* CreatorKiller: [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-12-31/4kids-yu-gi-oh-license-is-still-in-force-court-rules Almost subverted by]] ''Anime/YuGiOh''; TV Tokyo and NAS tried to yank the license, and 4Kids ultimately prevailed within the year, but the damage had been done, and they still ended up selling the rights to Konami for all ''Franchise/YuGiOh''-related merchandise. While the production unit was reformed by Konami as [=4K Media=], the main company was reformed as [=4Licensing Corporation=] and plenty of their assets were sold to Saban, many of their units were shut down and the company is now a shell of its former self.


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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Without any of their notable assets, some of the 4Kids dubs of anime have not seen a re-release in some form. While some of their old properties have avoided this by being aired on Creator/{{Vortexx}}, that block met its end in September 2014, killing even ''that'' method. Heck, ''Manga/OnePiece'' was redubbed by Creator/{{Funimation}}, which renders the 4Kids episodes that weren't released on DVD harder to find, even though the first 52 episodes can be found cheap.
** After their contract with Creator/FUNimation was terminated for reasons still unclear, 4Kids shows stopped showing up on the home video market. The one exception was Pokemon, whose home video rights remained with Viz. Dinosaur King did turn up on DVD through Shout! Factory, but it didn't sell well enough to justify the company working with them again. After 4Kids sold off their assets, Yu-Gi-Oh! did get a revival on DVD through Cinedigm (formerly NEW VIDEO Group), but it's unknown if any other 4Kids shows will be released to home video through the company. Until then, we have TV rips and foreign [=DVDs=] to rely on.
** According to Creator/MaddieBlaustein, 4Kids apparently DID dub the notorious episode of Pokemon with the seizure-inducing flashing lights. However, despite the lights being slowed down to "safe levels," the episode was banned internationally, and the dub has never been discovered.
** 4Kids went back and dubbed the previously skipped "Beauty and the Beach" episode of ''Pokémon'' (the one featuring James cross-dressing with inflatable boobs) with the Orange Islands episodes (with the aforementioned scene cut). However, it only aired once, and is not on DVD. TV rips can be found fairly easily online though.
** As of 2015, Discotek Media has got the rights to the 4Kids dub of ''Anime/SonicX'', and will start making DVD and Blu-ray re-releases!


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* MissingEpisode: They did this to some of their dubbed anime. The various ''Anime/YuGiOh'' SequelSeries had a few, and their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' is infamous for throwing out entire ''story arcs''. This, combined with 4Kids' refusal to release uncut versions of their shows (for the most part), not only created {{Plot Hole}}s, but made it so that these episodes would only stop being missing once Creator/{{Funimation}} got the rights.
* MoneyDearBoy:
** 4Kids was known for paying its actors very well (at least in relation to other dubbing studios, even higher than the typical union-rates for doing anime voice work). This is why you'll never hear any NYC voice actor express regret for working on a 4Kids series. The scripts may be crap, and the editing jobs may be a joke, but at least you're well-compensated for it.
** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather than the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more than enough of a sizeable audience in the west the profit from, they put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self-sabotage. If this was the case, then it worked [[GoneHorriblyRight a little too well]], considering the [[CreatorKiller damage]] it did to the company).


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* NoExportForYou: Due to their practice of making [=YouTube=] block certain videos from being played outside the U.S & Puerto Rico.


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* OldShame: Some of the employees are 4Kids weren't happy with what they did to ''One Piece'' since they were forced into dubbing it against their will.


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* ProductionPosse: Voice actors aside, they've used Creator/DongWooAnimation and Creator/BardelEntertainment for their non-dubbed work.


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* StarDerailingRole: While the legal mess with ''Manga/YuGiOh'' may have proved a CreatorKiller, their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' was what brought down their reputation. That reputation wasn't spotless before, but it would never fully recover after that. The aforementioned legal mess was simply the final nail in the coffin. Though to be fair, 4Kids wanted nothing to do with ''One Piece'', as they were well aware of how un-family friendly it was, but they were forced into dubbing the show by Toei, as they would only license other shows to 4Kids as part of a packaged deal.


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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Website/{{Crunchyroll}}, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.
* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: The ''Anime/ShamanKing'' dub is considered one of 4Kids' better translations because of how little they changed; they ''tried'' to do a CutAndPasteTranslation, but the business about gritty violence, death and souls was woven into the plot so well that they simply ''couldn't''. Unfortunately, all this did was showcase why they go so far into {{Macekre}} territory with their dubs: the MoralGuardians absolutely ''railed'' 4Kids, and it wasn't helped by [=4KidsTV=] [[ScrewedByTheNetwork airing the show at the same timeslot]] as Kids WB's ''Anime/YuGiOh'', their biggest franchise. These things, coupled with 4Kids' less-than-stellar reputation, caused ''Shaman King'' to bomb in the US despite being of passable quality, and 4Kids was back to its usual antics in time for ''Anime/OnePiece''...
26th Dec '17 6:50:46 PM TheJayman49
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* OldShame: Some of the employees are 4Kids weren't happy with what they did to ''One Piece'' since they were forced into dubbing it against their will.



* ProductionPosse: Voice actors aside, they've used Creator/DongWooAnimation and Creator/BardelEntertainment for their non-dubbed work.
26th Dec '17 6:49:09 PM TheJayman49
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* CreatorKiller: [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-12-31/4kids-yu-gi-oh-license-is-still-in-force-court-rules Almost subverted by]] ''Anime/YuGiOh''; TV Tokyo and NAS tried to yank the license, and 4Kids ultimately prevailed within the year, but the damage had been done, and they still ended up selling the rights to Konami for all ''Franchise/YuGiOh''-related merchandise. While the production unit was reformed by Konami as [=4K Media=], the main company was reformed as [=4Licensing Corporation=] and plenty of their assets were sold to Saban, many of their units were shut down and the company is now a shell of its former self.



* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Without any of their notable assets, some of the 4Kids dubs of anime have not seen a re-release in some form. While some of their old properties have avoided this by being aired on Creator/{{Vortexx}}, that block met its end in September 2014, killing even ''that'' method. Heck, ''Manga/OnePiece'' was redubbed by Creator/{{Funimation}}, which renders the 4Kids episodes that weren't released on DVD harder to find, even though the first 52 episodes can be found cheap.
** After their contract with Creator/FUNimation was terminated for reasons still unclear, 4Kids shows stopped showing up on the home video market. The one exception was Pokemon, whose home video rights remained with Viz. Dinosaur King did turn up on DVD through Shout! Factory, but it didn't sell well enough to justify the company working with them again. After 4Kids sold off their assets, Yu-Gi-Oh! did get a revival on DVD through Cinedigm (formerly NEW VIDEO Group), but it's unknown if any other 4Kids shows will be released to home video through the company. Until then, we have TV rips and foreign [=DVDs=] to rely on.
** According to Creator/MaddieBlaustein, 4Kids apparently DID dub the notorious episode of Pokemon with the seizure-inducing flashing lights. However, despite the lights being slowed down to "safe levels," the episode was banned internationally, and the dub has never been discovered.
** 4Kids went back and dubbed the previously skipped "Beauty and the Beach" episode of ''Pokémon'' (the one featuring James cross-dressing with inflatable boobs) with the Orange Islands episodes (with the aforementioned scene cut). However, it only aired once, and is not on DVD. TV rips can be found fairly easily online though.
** As of 2015, Discotek Media has got the rights to the 4Kids dub of ''Anime/SonicX'', and will start making DVD and Blu-ray re-releases!



* MissingEpisode: They did this to some of their dubbed anime. The various ''Anime/YuGiOh'' SequelSeries had a few, and their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' is infamous for throwing out entire ''story arcs''. This, combined with 4Kids' refusal to release uncut versions of their shows (for the most part), not only created {{Plot Hole}}s, but made it so that these episodes would only stop being missing once Creator/{{Funimation}} got the rights.
* MoneyDearBoy:
** 4Kids was known for paying its actors very well (at least in relation to other dubbing studios, even higher than the typical union-rates for doing anime voice work). This is why you'll never hear any NYC voice actor express regret for working on a 4Kids series. The scripts may be crap, and the editing jobs may be a joke, but at least you're well-compensated for it.
** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather than the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more than enough of a sizeable audience in the west the profit from, they put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self-sabotage. If this was the case, then it worked [[GoneHorriblyRight a little too well]], considering the [[CreatorKiller damage]] it did to the company).



* NoExportForYou: Due to their practice of making [=YouTube=] block certain videos from being played outside the U.S & Puerto Rico.



* StarDerailingRole: While the legal mess with ''Manga/YuGiOh'' may have proved a CreatorKiller, their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' was what brought down their reputation. That reputation wasn't spotless before, but it would never fully recover after that. The aforementioned legal mess was simply the final nail in the coffin. Though to be fair, 4Kids wanted nothing to do with ''One Piece'', as they were well aware of how un-family friendly it was, but they were forced into dubbing the show by Toei, as they would only license other shows to 4Kids as part of a packaged deal.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Website/{{Crunchyroll}}, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.
* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: The ''Anime/ShamanKing'' dub is considered one of 4Kids' better translations because of how little they changed; they ''tried'' to do a CutAndPasteTranslation, but the business about gritty violence, death and souls was woven into the plot so well that they simply ''couldn't''. Unfortunately, all this did was showcase why they go so far into {{Macekre}} territory with their dubs: the MoralGuardians absolutely ''railed'' 4Kids, and it wasn't helped by [=4KidsTV=] [[ScrewedByTheNetwork airing the show at the same timeslot]] as Kids WB's ''Anime/YuGiOh'', their biggest franchise. These things, coupled with 4Kids' less-than-stellar reputation, caused ''Shaman King'' to bomb in the US despite being of passable quality, and 4Kids was back to its usual antics in time for ''Anime/OnePiece''...
26th Dec '17 12:20:48 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* HostileShowTakeover: During the "[=FoxBox=]" block, when the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 Shredder]] threatens to drain the color of all its animated shows, like ''SonicX'' and ''[[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Kirby: Right Back At Ya!]]'', kicking off the [=FoxBox=] Color Drain Sweepstakes, and the [=4KidsTV=] Saturday Morning block, in which [[WesternAnimation/GIJoeSigma6 Cobra Commander]] takes over the block, renaming the block into ''Cobra TV'', kicking off the Cobra Domination Station Sweepstakes. This was also the premise of ''The Fight for the [=FoxBox=]''.

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* HostileShowTakeover: During the "[=FoxBox=]" block, when the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 Shredder]] threatens to drain the color of all its animated shows, like ''SonicX'' ''Anime/SonicX'' and ''[[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars Kirby: Right Back At Ya!]]'', kicking off the [=FoxBox=] Color Drain Sweepstakes, and the [=4KidsTV=] Saturday Morning block, in which [[WesternAnimation/GIJoeSigma6 Cobra Commander]] takes over the block, renaming the block into ''Cobra TV'', kicking off the Cobra Domination Station Sweepstakes. This was also the premise of ''The Fight for the [=FoxBox=]''.
23rd Dec '17 3:53:36 PM nombretomado
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* LastOfHisKind: Their block on TheCW, Creator/{{Toonzai}}, was the last traditional Saturday Morning block prior to being replaced by Creator/{{Vortexx}}.

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* LastOfHisKind: Their block on TheCW, Creator/TheCW, Creator/{{Toonzai}}, was the last traditional Saturday Morning block prior to being replaced by Creator/{{Vortexx}}.
25th Oct '17 10:57:54 PM Megafighter343
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* ContractualPurity: Averted. Andrew Rannells currently stars in ''Series/TheNewNormal'' and previously ''Theatre/TheBookOfMormon'', some of their [=VAs=] have done hentai (Creator/DanGreen, for example), and Creator/JasonGriffith did a condom commercial.
** People more savvy of the industry may realize that most of the company's current VA's have worked at Creator/CentralParkMedia before (and this includes Dan Green as well); CPM distributed uncut productions mostly for pre-teen to older audiences, such as ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' among others.
29th Sep '17 1:04:21 PM Spindini
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4Kids rose to prominence in the [[TheNineties late-'90s]] and [[TurnOfTheMillennium early-2000s]] with their dubs of ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YuGiOh'', which it helped popularize in the U.S. The success helped the company subsequently acquire more anime properties (mostly of the merchandising-type), and it adapted them with varying levels of success -- chiefly by applying unusual edits, cuts, and modifications to get them on network TV. These cuts, in addition to inflammatory comments by its higher-ups and its refusal to release uncut [=DVDs=] of the adapted series (although they did briefly attempt this), helped 4Kids garner a fair share of hatred among fans of the original versions of these shows.

Its infamy came to a head with the bizarre localization and edit of ''Manga/OnePiece'', which managed to combine all of the company's (in)famous practices into one show: [[{{Bowdlerize}} numerous content edits]], the replacement of ''all'' of the original music, the removal of a large number of episodes (that turned out to be important later on -- although they couldn't have known at the time), and widespread changes to the original script and plot even in the ''unedited'' parts. All of this solidified fandom hatred of the company, and it remains the darkest mark on its reputation, particularly as it is generally agreed to have permanently stunted the chances ''One Piece'' ever had of being a major media franchise in the States - as opposed to Japan, where it is tied with ''Manga/DragonBall'' for being the most successful and important manga and anime franchise ''in the history of media''. To say that there was a backlash would be, uh... putting it pretty mildly. To be fair, 4Kids didn't want anything to do with ''One Piece'', as they were well aware of how un-family friendly it was. However, Creator/ToeiAnimation forced 4Kids into dubbing the show, as they would only license other shows to 4Kids as part of a packaged deal.

Because of this, Japanese studios would actually make an exception to the fansubbers' "gentleman's agreement" to stop fansubbing when a series is licensed. Said agreement is basically, when an anime gets licensed, fansubbers abandon that particular anime, so that Japanese studios will condone the fansubbers' "piracy" of the show. 4Kids' reputation has long been ''so'' abysmal that Japanese studios would allow fans to continue fansubbing a show if it gets licensed to 4Kids, in large part due to 4Kids' refusal to offer Japanese audio even on the DVD releases, and their rabid censorship policies.

On the other side of the quality spectrum is ''[[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'', which combined good storytelling with content not usually seen in Saturday morning cartoons -- and which would have never lasted as long as it did anywhere else. It also featured content 4Kids would normally censor in their anime dubs. As you can tell, [=4Kids=] was ''wildly'' inconsistent when it came to censorship.

The hatred garnered from their dubs would be worn out as the company became significantly less prominent than it used to be. In the late 2000s, 4Kids' focus shifted away from anime to homegrown properties and acquisitions from other countries, which generally fit the company's creative philosophy much better and have obtained much more faithful treatment. What anime they still dubbed was generally well-received -- or, at least, drew less ire. With Creator/KidsWB[='s=] demise in 2008, 4Kids became -- for better or for worse -- the last remnant of what was once an institution. [[http://www.animationmagazine.net/article/11056 It was a position they suffered for having.]] In 2009, the series and merchandising rights to ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' were bought out by Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} as a component of their purchase of [[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles the franchise]]. Nick would also snatch up the ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'' franchise in the following year.

In April 2011, months after the departure of CEO Alfred R. Kahn, [[http://www.screendigest.com/news/us-childrens-entertainment-company-4kids-files-for-bankruptcy/view.html the company filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy]]. An auction resulted in the company being sold in pieces; Creator/{{Konami}} bought all of their ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' rights, and Creator/SabanBrands bought the rest of the company, including the Toonzai Saturday morning block and rights to ''Sonic X'' and ''Cubix''.

With the acquisition from Saban, Creator/TheCW4Kids[=/=]Creator/{{Toonzai}} ended in the fall of 2012, being replaced by a new block called Creator/{{Vortexx}}. [=CW4Kids=]' final broadcast on August 18, 2012 ended with a full marathon of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. 4Kids successfully exited from bankruptcy in mid-December of 2012 as '''4Licensing Corporation''' without any notable entertainment assets. Their main focus was then shifted to developing and licensing isoBlox, an impact-blocking surface designed for use in sports equipment. On the bright side, anime fans will no longer be enduring the company's notorious practices. On the downside, it leaves the New York talent pool of voice actors, for the most part, without regular work; some have even moved to Los Angeles because of it. In September 2016, [[HistoryRepeats 4Licensing filed for bankruptcy again]] and quietly folded the next year.

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4Kids rose to prominence in the [[TheNineties late-'90s]] and [[TurnOfTheMillennium early-2000s]] with their dubs of ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' and ''Anime/YuGiOh'', which it helped popularize in the U.S. The success helped the company subsequently acquire more anime properties (mostly of the merchandising-type), and it adapted them with varying levels of success -- chiefly by applying unusual edits, cuts, and modifications to get them on network TV. These cuts, in addition to inflammatory some comments by its higher-ups and its refusal to release uncut [=DVDs=] of the adapted series (although they did briefly attempt this), helped 4Kids garner a fair share of of, perhaps unfair, hatred among fans of the original versions of these shows.

Its infamy Arguments about it came to a head with the bizarre localization and edit of ''Manga/OnePiece'', which managed to combine all of the company's (in)famous practices into one show: [[{{Bowdlerize}} numerous content edits]], the replacement of ''all'' of the original music, the removal of a large number of episodes (that turned out to be important later on -- although they couldn't have known at the time), and widespread changes to the original script and plot even in the ''unedited'' parts. All of this solidified fandom hatred of made some people hate the entire company, and it remains the unfortunate darkest mark on its reputation, particularly as it is generally agreed to have its naysayers believe it has permanently stunted the chances ''One Piece'' ever had of being a major media franchise in the States - as opposed to Japan, where it is tied with ''Manga/DragonBall'' for being the most successful and important manga and anime franchise ''in the history of media''.media'', though we can't say ''One Piece'' hasn't turned out successful anyway. To say that there was a backlash would be, uh... putting it pretty mildly. To be fair, 4Kids didn't want anything to do with ''One Piece'', as they were well aware of how un-family friendly it was. However, Creator/ToeiAnimation forced 4Kids into dubbing the show, as they would only license other shows to 4Kids as part of a packaged deal.

Because of this, Japanese studios would would, unfortunately, actually make an exception to the fansubbers' "gentleman's agreement" to stop fansubbing when a series is licensed. Said agreement is basically, when an anime gets licensed, fansubbers abandon that particular anime, so that Japanese studios will condone the fansubbers' "piracy" of the show. 4Kids' reputation has long been ''so'' abysmal (even though it has a fan following that extends way back) that Japanese studios would allow fans to continue fansubbing a show if it gets licensed to 4Kids, in large part due to 4Kids' refusal to offer Japanese audio even on the DVD releases, and their rabid censorship policies.

On the other side of the quality spectrum There is also ''[[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'', which combined good storytelling with content not usually seen in Saturday morning cartoons -- and which would have never lasted as long as it did anywhere else. It also featured content 4Kids would normally censor in their anime dubs. As you can tell, [=4Kids=] was ''wildly'' inconsistent when it came to censorship.

censorship. It was better received by the anti-censorship crowd for that reason.

The hatred garnered from their dubs would be worn out as the company became significantly less prominent than it used to be.be, and its fan following became the only people who still cared. In the late 2000s, 4Kids' focus shifted away from anime to homegrown properties and acquisitions from other countries, which generally fit the company's creative philosophy much better and have obtained much more faithful treatment. What anime they still dubbed was generally well-received -- or, at least, drew less ire. With Creator/KidsWB[='s=] demise in 2008, 4Kids became -- for better or for worse -- the last remnant of what was once an institution. [[http://www.animationmagazine.net/article/11056 It was a position they suffered for having.]] In 2009, the series and merchandising rights to ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' were bought out by Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} as a component of their purchase of [[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles the franchise]]. Nick would also snatch up the ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'' franchise in the following year.

In April 2011, months after the departure of CEO Alfred R. Kahn, [[http://www.screendigest.com/news/us-childrens-entertainment-company-4kids-files-for-bankruptcy/view.html the company filed for chapter 11 11]] [[Series/WheelOfFortune bankruptcy]]. An auction resulted in the company being sold in pieces; Creator/{{Konami}} bought all of their ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' rights, and Creator/SabanBrands bought the rest of the company, including the Toonzai Saturday morning block and rights to ''Sonic X'' and ''Cubix''.

With the acquisition from Saban, Creator/TheCW4Kids[=/=]Creator/{{Toonzai}} ended in the fall of 2012, being replaced by a new block called Creator/{{Vortexx}}. [=CW4Kids=]' final broadcast on August 18, 2012 ended with a full marathon of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. 4Kids successfully exited from bankruptcy in mid-December of 2012 as '''4Licensing Corporation''' without any notable entertainment assets. Their main focus was then shifted to developing and licensing isoBlox, an impact-blocking surface designed for use in sports equipment. On the bright side, anime Anime fans will no longer be enduring able to experience the company's notorious practices. On the downside, unique practices, which may be fortunate for some, but it is unfortunate for others. It also leaves the New York talent pool of voice actors, for the most part, without regular work; some have even moved to Los Angeles because of it. In September 2016, [[HistoryRepeats 4Licensing filed for bankruptcy again]] and quietly folded the next year.
17th Sep '17 8:04:34 PM gjjones
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Its infamy came to a head with the bizarre localization and edit of ''Manga/OnePiece'', which managed to combine all of the company's (in)famous practices into one show: [[{{Bowdlerize}} numerous content edits]], the replacement of ''all'' of the original music, the removal of a large number of episodes (that turned out to be important later on -- although they couldn't have known at the time), and widespread changes to the original script and plot even in the ''unedited'' parts. All of this solidified fandom hatred of the company, and it remains the darkest mark on its reputation, particularly as it is generally agreed to have permanently stunted the chances ''One Piece'' ever had of being a major media franchise in the States - as opposed to Japan, where it is tied with ''Manga/DragonBall'' for being the most successful and important manga and anime franchise ''in the history of media''. To say that there was a backlash would be, uh... putting it pretty mildly. To be fair, 4Kids didn't want anything to do with ''One Piece'', as they were well aware of how un-family friendly it was. However, Toei forced 4Kids into dubbing the show, as they would only license other shows to 4Kids as part of a packaged deal.

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Its infamy came to a head with the bizarre localization and edit of ''Manga/OnePiece'', which managed to combine all of the company's (in)famous practices into one show: [[{{Bowdlerize}} numerous content edits]], the replacement of ''all'' of the original music, the removal of a large number of episodes (that turned out to be important later on -- although they couldn't have known at the time), and widespread changes to the original script and plot even in the ''unedited'' parts. All of this solidified fandom hatred of the company, and it remains the darkest mark on its reputation, particularly as it is generally agreed to have permanently stunted the chances ''One Piece'' ever had of being a major media franchise in the States - as opposed to Japan, where it is tied with ''Manga/DragonBall'' for being the most successful and important manga and anime franchise ''in the history of media''. To say that there was a backlash would be, uh... putting it pretty mildly. To be fair, 4Kids didn't want anything to do with ''One Piece'', as they were well aware of how un-family friendly it was. However, Toei Creator/ToeiAnimation forced 4Kids into dubbing the show, as they would only license other shows to 4Kids as part of a packaged deal.



With the acquisition from Saban, Creator/TheCW4Kids[=/=]Creator/{{Toonzai}} ended in the fall of 2012, being replaced by a new block called Creator/{{Vortexx}}. [=CW4Kids=]' final broadcast on August 18, 2012 ended with a full marathon of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. 4Kids successfully exited from bankruptcy in mid-December of 2012 as '''4Licensing Corporation''' without any notable entertainment assets. Their main focus was then shifted to developing and licensing isoBlox, an impact-blocking surface designed for use in sports equipment. On the bright side, anime fans will no longer be enduring the company's notorious practices. On the downside, it leaves the New York talent pool of voice actors, for the most part, without regular work. In September 2016, [[HistoryRepeats 4Licensing filed for bankruptcy again]] and quietly folded the next year.

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With the acquisition from Saban, Creator/TheCW4Kids[=/=]Creator/{{Toonzai}} ended in the fall of 2012, being replaced by a new block called Creator/{{Vortexx}}. [=CW4Kids=]' final broadcast on August 18, 2012 ended with a full marathon of ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. 4Kids successfully exited from bankruptcy in mid-December of 2012 as '''4Licensing Corporation''' without any notable entertainment assets. Their main focus was then shifted to developing and licensing isoBlox, an impact-blocking surface designed for use in sports equipment. On the bright side, anime fans will no longer be enduring the company's notorious practices. On the downside, it leaves the New York talent pool of voice actors, for the most part, without regular work.work; some have even moved to Los Angeles because of it. In September 2016, [[HistoryRepeats 4Licensing filed for bankruptcy again]] and quietly folded the next year.
14th Sep '17 10:20:47 AM gjjones
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* ContractualPurity: Averted. Andrew Rannells currently stars in ''Series/TheNewNormal'' and previously ''Theatre/TheBookOfMormon'', some of their [=VAs=] have done hentai (Creator/DanGreen, for example), and Creator/JasonGriffith did a condom commercial.
** People more savvy of the industry may realize that most of the company's current VA's have worked at Creator/CentralParkMedia before (and this includes Dan Green as well); CPM distributed uncut productions mostly for pre-teen to older audiences, such as ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' among others.
* CreatorKiller: [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-12-31/4kids-yu-gi-oh-license-is-still-in-force-court-rules Almost subverted by]] ''Anime/YuGiOh''; TV Tokyo and NAS tried to yank the license, and 4Kids ultimately prevailed within the year, but the damage had been done, and they still ended up selling the rights to Konami for all ''Franchise/YuGiOh''-related merchandise. While the production unit was reformed by Konami as [=4K Media=], the main company was reformed as [=4Licensing Corporation=] and plenty of their assets were sold to Saban, many of their units were shut down and the company is now a shell of its former self.


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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Without any of their notable assets, some of the 4Kids dubs of anime have not seen a re-release in some form. While some of their old properties have avoided this by being aired on Creator/{{Vortexx}}, that block met its end in September 2014, killing even ''that'' method. Heck, ''Manga/OnePiece'' was redubbed by Creator/{{Funimation}}, which renders the 4Kids episodes that weren't released on DVD harder to find, even though the first 52 episodes can be found cheap.
** After their contract with Creator/FUNimation was terminated for reasons still unclear, 4Kids shows stopped showing up on the home video market. The one exception was Pokemon, whose home video rights remained with Viz. Dinosaur King did turn up on DVD through Shout! Factory, but it didn't sell well enough to justify the company working with them again. After 4Kids sold off their assets, Yu-Gi-Oh! did get a revival on DVD through Cinedigm (formerly NEW VIDEO Group), but it's unknown if any other 4Kids shows will be released to home video through the company. Until then, we have TV rips and foreign [=DVDs=] to rely on.
** According to Creator/MaddieBlaustein, 4Kids apparently DID dub the notorious episode of Pokemon with the seizure-inducing flashing lights. However, despite the lights being slowed down to "safe levels," the episode was banned internationally, and the dub has never been discovered.
** 4Kids went back and dubbed the previously skipped "Beauty and the Beach" episode of ''Pokémon'' (the one featuring James cross-dressing with inflatable boobs) with the Orange Islands episodes (with the aforementioned scene cut). However, it only aired once, and is not on DVD. TV rips can be found fairly easily online though.
** As of 2015, Discotek Media has got the rights to the 4Kids dub of ''Anime/SonicX'', and will start making DVD and Blu-ray re-releases!


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* MissingEpisode: They did this to some of their dubbed anime. The various ''Anime/YuGiOh'' SequelSeries had a few, and their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' is infamous for throwing out entire ''story arcs''. This, combined with 4Kids' refusal to release uncut versions of their shows (for the most part), not only created {{Plot Hole}}s, but made it so that these episodes would only stop being missing once Creator/{{Funimation}} got the rights.
* MoneyDearBoy:
** 4Kids was known for paying its actors very well (at least in relation to other dubbing studios, even higher than the typical union-rates for doing anime voice work). This is why you'll never hear any NYC voice actor express regret for working on a 4Kids series. The scripts may be crap, and the editing jobs may be a joke, but at least you're well-compensated for it.
** Though this likewise seem to be their business philosophy as well. The heads of the company were only interested in how profitable a series could be rather than the quality of their products and the fandom of properties. And that's if they were even interested in the property at all (for example, they actually didn't want ''One Piece'', just ''Tokyo Mew Mew''. But Toei, wanting the anime to be shown in America as soon as possible, forced them to take it as part of the deal. As such even though the series was a major hit in Japan and had more than enough of a sizeable audience in the west the profit from, they put the barest minimum of work into the dub as they truly didn't care about owning the series. Some even speculate that they were purposefully trying to lose the license via self-sabotage. If this was the case, then it worked [[GoneHorriblyRight a little too well]], considering the [[CreatorKiller damage]] it did to the company).


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* OldShame: Some of the employees are 4Kids weren't happy with what they did to ''One Piece'' since they were forced into dubbing it against their will.


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* ProductionPosse: Voice actors aside, they've used Creator/DongWooAnimation and Creator/BardelEntertainment for their non-dubbed work.


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* StarDerailingRole: While the legal mess with ''Manga/YuGiOh'' may have proved a CreatorKiller, their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'' was what brought down their reputation. That reputation wasn't spotless before, but it would never fully recover after that. The aforementioned legal mess was simply the final nail in the coffin. Though to be fair, 4Kids wanted nothing to do with ''One Piece'', as they were well aware of how un-family friendly it was, but they were forced into dubbing the show by Toei, as they would only license other shows to 4Kids as part of a packaged deal.


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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During their final years, 4Kids was actively trying to [[TheAtoner undo the damage they did]] by setting up their own legal streaming site with uncut episodes, even partnering with Funimation and Website/{{Crunchyroll}}, as well as proudly referring to their properties as "anime". Had they been able to continue without the legal issues, Toonzai could have very well been a spiritual successor to daytime Toonami, serving as a [[GatewaySeries gateway to anime for children]], while not alienating older fans.
* WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings: The ''Anime/ShamanKing'' dub is considered one of 4Kids' better translations because of how little they changed; they ''tried'' to do a CutAndPasteTranslation, but the business about gritty violence, death and souls was woven into the plot so well that they simply ''couldn't''. Unfortunately, all this did was showcase why they go so far into {{Macekre}} territory with their dubs: the MoralGuardians absolutely ''railed'' 4Kids, and it wasn't helped by [=4KidsTV=] [[ScrewedByTheNetwork airing the show at the same timeslot]] as Kids WB's ''Anime/YuGiOh'', their biggest franchise. These things, coupled with 4Kids' less-than-stellar reputation, caused ''Shaman King'' to bomb in the US despite being of passable quality, and 4Kids was back to its usual antics in time for ''Anime/OnePiece''...
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* NoExportForYou: Due to their practice of making [=YouTube=] block certain videos from being played outside the U.S & Puerto Rico.



* ProductionPosse: Voice actors aside, they've used Creator/DongWooAnimation and Creator/BardelEntertainment for their non-dubbed work.
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