History Creator / Confucius

11th Oct '17 3:15:46 AM YZQ
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* TheGoldenRule: Played with. In every relationship, Confucius advocates that both parties have their responsibilities. Just as the son should be filial, so should the father be benevolent in return; just as the minister should be loyal, so should the sovereign be benevolent in return.



* HonorRelatedAbuse: Up against an AbusiveParent or AbusiveSpouse? So long as the beatings don't cause lasting harm, endure them, because that's what filial piety demands.

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* HonorRelatedAbuse: Up against an AbusiveParent or AbusiveSpouse? So long as the beatings don't cause lasting harm, endure them, because that's what filial piety demands. However, as the MyMasterRightOrWrong entry shows, Confucius actually advocates that both parties in a relationship (parent-child, between spouses) have their respective duties.
27th Sep '17 2:37:49 AM YZQ
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*TraumaCongaLine: Confucius's final years were filled with tragedy as his only son and two disciples (Yan Hui and Zhong You) predeceased him. In particular, he himself passed away about one year after Zhong You's violent death.
25th Sep '17 7:16:28 PM YZQ
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Confucius's enduring legacy is the codification of an ethos that predated him by centuries into a system of relatively coherent moral codes. [[note]]Indeed, he sees himself as "merely" preserving and passing on values prevalent during the Western Zhou era.[[/note]] In a sense, Confucianism isn't so much a philosophy (or religion, as it is sometimes erroneously called) as a model of behavior. There have been several cycles of decay and revival in the history of Confucianism, but the latest wave of Neo-Confucianism is at the core of what has been claimed as 'traditional' values in East Asia: a strong emphasis on family life and loyalties (filial piety), deference to authority and personal responsibility in authority (feudal loyalty). Associated with these are the prizing of self-discipline and (academic) learning. After his death, it was proclaimed as the official religion/ethos of the Han dynasty (Whether they actually did it is another question entirely, a common proverb about the Han states that they went for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy) Legalism]] under the banner of Confucianism) and went on to become insanely popular. It was one of the few hundred schools of thought to actually achieve notoriety and holds enormous sway over modern ideology and politics. [[note]] One reason for the massive influence is that Confucius advocated a path for all scholars, which is for them to become officials. As it turned out, many of Confucius's disciples did become officials, and they in turn used their influences to elevate their teacher to the status of a sage. Another reason is that Confucius's teachings are targeted at the upper classes, i.e. the classes who can afford to be educated and then seek their fortunes at officialdom.[[/note]]

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Confucius's enduring legacy is the codification of an ethos that predated him by centuries into a system of relatively coherent moral codes. [[note]]Indeed, he sees himself as "merely" preserving and passing on values prevalent during the Western Zhou era.[[/note]] In a sense, Confucianism isn't so much a philosophy (or religion, as it is sometimes erroneously called) as a model of behavior. There have been several cycles of decay and revival in the history of Confucianism, but the latest wave of Neo-Confucianism is at the core of what has been claimed as 'traditional' values in East Asia: a strong emphasis on family life and loyalties (filial piety), deference to authority and personal responsibility in authority (feudal loyalty). Associated with these are the prizing of self-discipline and (academic) learning. After his death, it was proclaimed as the official religion/ethos of the Han dynasty (Whether they actually did it is another question entirely, a common proverb about the Han states that they went for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy) Legalism]] under the banner of Confucianism) and went on to become insanely popular. It was one of the few hundred schools of thought to actually achieve notoriety and holds enormous sway over modern ideology and politics. [[note]] One reason for the massive influence is that Confucius advocated a path for all scholars, which is for them to become officials. As it turned out, many of Confucius's disciples did become officials, and they in turn used their influences to elevate their teacher to the status of a sage. Another reason is that Confucius's teachings are targeted at more easily followed by the upper classes, i.e. the classes who can afford to be educated and then seek their fortunes at officialdom.[[/note]]
24th Sep '17 9:29:47 PM YZQ
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Confucius's enduring legacy is the codification of an ethos that predated him by centuries into a system of relatively coherent moral codes. [[note]]Indeed, he sees himself as "merely" preserving and passing on values prevalent during the Western Zhou era.[[/note]] In a sense, Confucianism isn't so much a philosophy (or religion, as it is sometimes erroneously called) as a model of behavior. There have been several cycles of decay and revival in the history of Confucianism, but the latest wave of Neo-Confucianism is at the core of what has been claimed as 'traditional' values in East Asia: a strong emphasis on family life and loyalties (filial piety), deference to authority and personal responsibility in authority (feudal loyalty). Associated with these are the prizing of self-discipline and (academic) learning. After his death, it was proclaimed as the official religion/ethos of the Han dynasty (Whether they actually did it is another question entirely, a common proverb about the Han states that they went for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy) Legalism]] under the banner of Confucianism) and went on to become insanely popular. It was one of the few hundred schools of thought to actually achieve notoriety and holds enormous sway over modern ideology and politics. [[note]] One reason for the massive influence is that Confucius advocated a path for all scholars, which is for them to become officials. As it turned out, many of Confucius's disciples did become officials, and they in turn used their influences to elevate their teacher to the status of a sage.[[/note]]

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Confucius's enduring legacy is the codification of an ethos that predated him by centuries into a system of relatively coherent moral codes. [[note]]Indeed, he sees himself as "merely" preserving and passing on values prevalent during the Western Zhou era.[[/note]] In a sense, Confucianism isn't so much a philosophy (or religion, as it is sometimes erroneously called) as a model of behavior. There have been several cycles of decay and revival in the history of Confucianism, but the latest wave of Neo-Confucianism is at the core of what has been claimed as 'traditional' values in East Asia: a strong emphasis on family life and loyalties (filial piety), deference to authority and personal responsibility in authority (feudal loyalty). Associated with these are the prizing of self-discipline and (academic) learning. After his death, it was proclaimed as the official religion/ethos of the Han dynasty (Whether they actually did it is another question entirely, a common proverb about the Han states that they went for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy) Legalism]] under the banner of Confucianism) and went on to become insanely popular. It was one of the few hundred schools of thought to actually achieve notoriety and holds enormous sway over modern ideology and politics. [[note]] One reason for the massive influence is that Confucius advocated a path for all scholars, which is for them to become officials. As it turned out, many of Confucius's disciples did become officials, and they in turn used their influences to elevate their teacher to the status of a sage. Another reason is that Confucius's teachings are targeted at the upper classes, i.e. the classes who can afford to be educated and then seek their fortunes at officialdom.[[/note]]
24th Sep '17 4:37:02 PM YZQ
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Confucius's enduring legacy is the codification of an ethos that predated him by centuries into a system of relatively coherent moral codes. In a sense, Confucianism isn't so much a philosophy (or religion, as it is sometimes erroneously called) as a model of behavior. There have been several cycles of decay and revival in the history of Confucianism, but the latest wave of Neo-Confucianism is at the core of what has been claimed as 'traditional' values in East Asia: a strong emphasis on family life and loyalties (filial piety), deference to authority and personal responsibility in authority (feudal loyalty). Associated with these are the prizing of self-discipline and (academic) learning. After his death, it was proclaimed as the official religion/ethos of the Han dynasty (Whether they actually did it is another question entirely, a common proverb about the Han states that they went for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy) Legalism]] under the banner of Confucianism) and went on to become insanely popular. It was one of the few hundred schools of thought to actually achieve notoriety and holds enormous sway over modern ideology and politics.

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Confucius's enduring legacy is the codification of an ethos that predated him by centuries into a system of relatively coherent moral codes. [[note]]Indeed, he sees himself as "merely" preserving and passing on values prevalent during the Western Zhou era.[[/note]] In a sense, Confucianism isn't so much a philosophy (or religion, as it is sometimes erroneously called) as a model of behavior. There have been several cycles of decay and revival in the history of Confucianism, but the latest wave of Neo-Confucianism is at the core of what has been claimed as 'traditional' values in East Asia: a strong emphasis on family life and loyalties (filial piety), deference to authority and personal responsibility in authority (feudal loyalty). Associated with these are the prizing of self-discipline and (academic) learning. After his death, it was proclaimed as the official religion/ethos of the Han dynasty (Whether they actually did it is another question entirely, a common proverb about the Han states that they went for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy) Legalism]] under the banner of Confucianism) and went on to become insanely popular. It was one of the few hundred schools of thought to actually achieve notoriety and holds enormous sway over modern ideology and politics. \n [[note]] One reason for the massive influence is that Confucius advocated a path for all scholars, which is for them to become officials. As it turned out, many of Confucius's disciples did become officials, and they in turn used their influences to elevate their teacher to the status of a sage.[[/note]]



* GentlemanAndAScholar: The Confucian ideal. To elaborate, for Confucius, ideally, one should become a gentleman first, then become an official; if he has extra energy, he should become a scholar as well.

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* GentlemanAndAScholar: The Confucian ideal. To elaborate, for Confucius, ideally, the ideal is that one should become a gentleman first, then become an official; if he has extra energy, he should become a scholar as well.



* MyMasterRightOrWrong: Applied to one's father or master, this is expected. While BlindObedience is discouraged, the standard interpretation of filial piety is that this only extends to the duty to complain (though theoretically, [[EasyEvangelism this should be all that's needed]]). Actually disobeying is still the most heinous of sins.

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* MyMasterRightOrWrong: Applied to one's father or master, this is expected. While BlindObedience is discouraged, the standard interpretation of filial piety is that this only extends to the duty to complain (though theoretically, [[EasyEvangelism this should be all that's needed]]). Actually disobeying is still the most heinous of sins. To be fair, Confucius advocates that just as the son and minister have their duties, so too does the father and the sovereign.



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%%* TakeThat* TakeThat: Contrary to impressions of him being a harmonious sage, Confucius actually did not mince his words in his teachings. One can easily find passages where he was scolding a student in anger, or using allegory to remind the student to reflect on himself.
24th Sep '17 3:04:50 AM YZQ
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%%* DueToTheDead

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%%* DueToTheDead* DueToTheDead: Due to the premature deaths of his son and favourite disciples, Confucius has many laments in his final years.



* GentlemanAndAScholar: The Confucian ideal.

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* GentlemanAndAScholar: The Confucian ideal. To elaborate, for Confucius, ideally, one should become a gentleman first, then become an official; if he has extra energy, he should become a scholar as well.
12th Aug '17 10:04:37 PM Wuz
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'Confucius' is the name given to an extremely influential Chinese philosopher who lived in the 6th century BC. After his death, his teachings were compiled in a work known in the English-speaking world as the ''Analects of Confucius'' (Chinese: ''Lún Yǔ'', lit. "discussion over Confucius' words" -- though analects means "a collection of excerpts from a literary work" and is thus an inaccurate translation).

The name "Confucius" comes from the 16th century Latin translation of the ''Analects'' by the Jesuit scholar Matteo Ricci, who introduced him to the Catholic world. The Mandarin is ''Kǒng zǐ'' (孔子; "Master Kong")or ''Kǒng Fūzǐ'' (孔夫子 "Grand Master Kong"). He is known as Koshi in Japan. In Chinese tradition, his [[IHaveManyNames names]] are (in Hanyu Pinyin) ''Qiu''(丘) and ''Zhongni'' (仲尼). (Yes, you can call him "Johnny Kong" if you want to be utterly informal.)

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'Confucius' is the name given to an extremely influential Chinese philosopher who lived in the 6th century BC. After his death, his teachings were compiled in a work known in the English-speaking world as the ''Analects of Confucius'' (Chinese: (Traditional: 論語; Simplified: 论语; Pinyin: ''Lún Yǔ'', lit. "discussion over Confucius' words" -- though analects means "a collection of excerpts from a literary work" and is thus an inaccurate translation).

The name "Confucius" comes from the 16th century Latin translation of the ''Analects'' by the Jesuit scholar Matteo Ricci, who introduced him to the Catholic world. The Mandarin is ''Kǒng zǐ'' (孔子; "Master Kong")or Kong") or ''Kǒng Fūzǐ'' (孔夫子 "Grand Master Kong"). [[AlternateCharacterReading He is known as Koshi in Japan. Japan]]. In Chinese tradition, his [[IHaveManyNames names]] are (in Hanyu Pinyin) ''Qiu''(丘) ''Qiu'' (丘) and ''Zhongni'' (仲尼). (Yes, you can call him "Johnny Kong" if you want to be utterly informal.)
29th May '17 2:44:27 PM Eagal
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* ManlyTears: "He did not sing on the same day in which he had been weeping."

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* ManlyTears: ManlyTears:
** One of the provided quotes is
"He did not sing on the same day in which he had been weeping."



* TakeThat

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29th May '17 2:41:52 PM Eagal
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* DueToTheDead

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** FairForItsDay: On the other hand, if you have genuine cause to fear for your life or suffer serious injury, then the filial thing to do would be to run away.
10th Feb '17 2:51:22 PM YZQ
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* IntrepidMerchant: To Confucius' chagrin, Zigong, one of his disciples. Trade is rarely considered an honourable profession by Confucians as merchants do not produce anything for themselves or others, but instead deal in the fruits of others' labours. Nevertheless he was one of Confucius' important disciples, one who used his money and influence to protect Confucian sects in the 'age of martial philosophies'.

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* IntrepidMerchant: To Confucius' chagrin, Zigong, Zigong (子贡), one of his disciples. Trade is rarely considered an honourable profession by Confucians as merchants do not produce anything for themselves or others, but instead deal in the fruits of others' labours. Nevertheless Nevertheless, he was one of Confucius' important disciples, one who used his money and influence to protect Confucian sects in the 'age of martial philosophies'.



** According to tradition, his disciple Zhong You (仲由; courtesy name 子路 ''Zilu'') was killed and posthumously butchered into meat paste. After the incident, if he encountered (otherwise perfectly edible) meat paste during his meals, he would cover the paste and refuse to eat it. To twist the knife further, Confucius himself predicted that Zhong You would die an unnatural death due to his brashness, which was indeed what happened.

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** According to tradition, his disciple Zhong You (仲由; courtesy name 子路 ''Zilu'') was killed and posthumously butchered into meat paste. After the incident, if he encountered (otherwise perfectly edible) meat paste during his meals, he would cover the paste and refuse to eat it. To twist the knife further, Confucius himself predicted that Zhong You would die an unnatural death due to his brashness, which was indeed what happened.
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