History Creator / Aristophanes

1st Jun '16 3:55:05 AM Morgenthaler
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His notable plays include ''Theatre/TheClouds'' (''Νεφέλαι, Nephelai''), which famously lampooned Creator/{{Socrates}} (libeling him, and likely contributing to his sentence of death); ''The Wasps'' (''Σφῆκες, Sphékes''), a satire of [[OlderThanTheyThink contemporary litigious society]]; ''Theatre/TheBirds'' (''Ὄρνιθες, Ornithes''), which features the original {{Cloudcuckooland}}; ''Theatre/{{Lysistrata}}'' (''Λυσιστράτη, Lysistraté''), in which the women of Greece bring about the end of a war by going on a [[LysistrataGambit sex strike]]; and ''The Frogs'' (''Βάτραχοι, Batrachoi''), in which {{Euripides}} and {{Aeschylus}} contend in the afterlife for the title of Best Tragic Poet. (Many of his plays, in what was then a common convention, were named after the role adopted by the GreekChorus; ''Lysistrata'', named after the lead character, is the only exception out of those listed here.)

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His notable plays include ''Theatre/TheClouds'' (''Νεφέλαι, Nephelai''), which famously lampooned Creator/{{Socrates}} (libeling him, and likely contributing to his sentence of death); ''The Wasps'' (''Σφῆκες, Sphékes''), a satire of [[OlderThanTheyThink contemporary litigious society]]; ''Theatre/TheBirds'' (''Ὄρνιθες, Ornithes''), which features the original {{Cloudcuckooland}}; ''Theatre/{{Lysistrata}}'' (''Λυσιστράτη, Lysistraté''), in which the women of Greece bring about the end of a war by going on a [[LysistrataGambit sex strike]]; and ''The Frogs'' (''Βάτραχοι, Batrachoi''), in which {{Euripides}} Creator/{{Euripides}} and {{Aeschylus}} Creator/{{Aeschylus}} contend in the afterlife for the title of Best Tragic Poet. (Many of his plays, in what was then a common convention, were named after the role adopted by the GreekChorus; ''Lysistrata'', named after the lead character, is the only exception out of those listed here.)



* AnachronismStew: Some translations update terminology, and most update as many jokes as possible that the shows may remain side-splitters. For example, at one point in ''The Frogs'', we are given an excerpt from {{Aeschylus}}' now-lost play ''Myrmidons'', where the word "striking" figures repeatedly. One translation has Dionysus riffing "You struck out." Another has Dionysus complain that all the "striking" has made his groin sore.

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* AnachronismStew: Some translations update terminology, and most update as many jokes as possible that the shows may remain side-splitters. For example, at one point in ''The Frogs'', we are given an excerpt from {{Aeschylus}}' Creator/{{Aeschylus}}' now-lost play ''Myrmidons'', where the word "striking" figures repeatedly. One translation has Dionysus riffing "You struck out." Another has Dionysus complain that all the "striking" has made his groin sore.
12th Oct '15 8:12:59 PM Goldfritha
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* AsYouKnow: Opening of ''The Wasps''

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* AsYouKnow: Opening of ''The Wasps''Wasps'' -- with a fourth-wall-breaking lamp-shade hanging -- apparently this trope got tired early.
8th Jul '15 7:45:21 AM MrThorfan64
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** Cleon, though an important figure in his own right, is well-known for being a target of Aristophanes' plays. This is partially due to Cleon being NouveauRiche, coming from a tanner's family. However Cleon was well-known for being very supportive of continuing the war with Sparta, even convincing the Athenians to turn down the possibility of a very beneficial peace.
9th May '15 2:03:20 AM Dolski
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* ToiletHumor: A [[IncrediblyLamePun shitload.]] A few examples (but there are many, many more) are the opening of ''The Peace'' where two servent are kneading dung cakes for their master's [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext giant dung beetle.]] And a classic line from ''The Knights'', a play that lampoons politicians: "To steal, perjure yourself and make your arse receptive are three essentials for climbing high."
30th Apr '15 8:49:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* GagPenis: Rather memorably, he mocks the practice of having actors parade around in leather phalli during comedic performances in {{Lysistrata}} - a few scenes before [[RagingStiffie the fact that every man in Greece has an erection]] [[HypocriticalHumor is the core of a joke]]. (We don't ''know'' that the cast members were performing in phalli, since the plays don't come with stage directions, but it seems rather likely.)

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* GagPenis: Rather memorably, he mocks the practice of having actors parade around in leather phalli during comedic performances in {{Lysistrata}} Theatre/{{Lysistrata}} - a few scenes before [[RagingStiffie the fact that every man in Greece has an erection]] [[HypocriticalHumor is the core of a joke]]. (We don't ''know'' that the cast members were performing in phalli, since the plays don't come with stage directions, but it seems rather likely.)
4th Nov '14 2:28:54 PM SpectralTime
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* GagPenis

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* GagPenisGagPenis: Rather memorably, he mocks the practice of having actors parade around in leather phalli during comedic performances in {{Lysistrata}} - a few scenes before [[RagingStiffie the fact that every man in Greece has an erection]] [[HypocriticalHumor is the core of a joke]]. (We don't ''know'' that the cast members were performing in phalli, since the plays don't come with stage directions, but it seems rather likely.)



* TakeThat: Creator/{{Euripides}} is one of the most frequent targets. Socrates is a close second - Theatre/TheClouds is all about what a sleazy fellow Socrates is, and there are various references to him in other plays, none at all flattering. It's often argued that Aristophanes' daemon-ization of Socrates was one reason the Athenians eventually condemned the philosopher to death.

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* TakeThat: Creator/{{Euripides}} is one of the most frequent targets. Socrates is a close second - Theatre/TheClouds is all about what a sleazy fellow Socrates is, and there are various references to him in other plays, none at all flattering. It's often argued that Aristophanes' daemon-ization of Socrates was one reason the Athenians eventually condemned the philosopher to death. At least one critic holds that the Socrates of The Clouds and the Socrates of Plato are ''so'' incompatible that he is using a famous local philosopher to critique the Sophists rather than Socrates in particular, whether he was a Sophist or not. (He wasn't.) The REAL Socrates, with whom Aristophanes apparently hands out and is friends with in many Platonic dialogues, is merely unfortunate collateral damage toward that end.
21st Sep '14 8:26:14 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* AnachronismStew: Some translations update terminology, and most update as many jokes as possible that the shows may remain side-splitters. For example, at one point in ''The Frogs'', we are given an excerpt from {{Aeschylus}}' now-lost play ''Myrmidons'', where the word "striking" figures repeatedly. One translation has Dionysus riffing "You struck out."Another has Dionysus complain that all the "striking" has made his groin sore.

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* AnachronismStew: Some translations update terminology, and most update as many jokes as possible that the shows may remain side-splitters. For example, at one point in ''The Frogs'', we are given an excerpt from {{Aeschylus}}' now-lost play ''Myrmidons'', where the word "striking" figures repeatedly. One translation has Dionysus riffing "You struck out."Another " Another has Dionysus complain that all the "striking" has made his groin sore.
13th Jun '14 4:15:18 PM LinguaViva
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* ''Theatre/TheAcharnians''
2nd Feb '14 11:34:39 AM Goldfritha
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* AsYouKnow: Opening of ''The Wasps''
2nd Feb '14 11:24:20 AM Goldfritha
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: ''Clouds'', ''Frogs'', ''The Wasps'' -- if not the UrExample, he may yet be the oldest surviving.
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