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25th Jun '17 10:13:27 AM WillBGood
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* Another DarkFantasy manga contender is ''Manga/UbelBlatt''. [[TheKingdom The main human empire]] is the sole bulwark against [[TheEmpire Wistech]], which uses horrifying, [[BlackMagic corrupt]] {{magitek}} to create BodyHorror {{Eldritch Abomination}}s and WeaponsOfMassDestruction as tools of war, but the humans are bolstered by the might of the Seven Heroes who won the last great war by striking at the heart of Wistech; and now it seems the Four Lances of Betrayal, former companions of the Seven Heroes who betrayed their comrades, are BackFromTheDead and stirring up touble in the hinterlands. seems like a recipe for a cliché WhiteAndBlackMorality setting, no? '''Wrong.''' [[spoiler:It turns out [[FakeUltimateHero the Seven Heroes are frauds]]; [[DirtyCoward they panicked and chose to stay behind]] after reaching the border, and when their four former TrueCompanions came back after successfully completing their mission, the "heroes" [[MoralEventHorizon ambushed and slaughtered them]] and demonized them into the Four Lances of Betrayal to cover their own asses. After their return, the "heroes" [[VillainWithGoodPublicity were acclaimed throughout the empire]] and got positions of power and prestige as nobility, [[AristocratsAreEvil which they proceeded to abuse and reign oppressively over the populace]]; at least two devolved into monsters, one [[DrivenToMadness went batshit crazy from guilt and paranoia]], and the rest are at the very least flagrant {{hypocrite}}s. The Four Lances stirring up trouble are also fakes using the name as free publicity.]] And that's not mentionning the FantasticRacism towards those with elven/fairy blood, the numerous other corrupt assholes which liberally pepper the setting, or the fact that TheHero, an AntiHero on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge [[spoiler:against the Seven Heroes, as he's one of the true Four Lances, mysteriously recovered from the massacre]], is still one of the more morally upright main characters bar some others in his current group. And of course, after several good-guy victories and a slowly building HopeSpot for the setting in general, come volume 9 and 10, things go downhill again.

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* Another DarkFantasy manga contender is ''Manga/UbelBlatt''. [[TheKingdom The main human empire]] is the sole bulwark against [[TheEmpire Wistech]], which uses horrifying, [[BlackMagic corrupt]] {{magitek}} to create BodyHorror {{Eldritch Abomination}}s and WeaponsOfMassDestruction as tools of war, but the humans are bolstered by the might of the Seven Heroes who won the last great war by striking at the heart of Wistech; and now it seems the Four Lances of Betrayal, former companions of the Seven Heroes who betrayed their comrades, are BackFromTheDead and stirring up touble in the hinterlands. seems like a recipe for a cliché WhiteAndBlackMorality setting, no? '''Wrong.''' [[spoiler:It turns out [[FakeUltimateHero the Seven Heroes are frauds]]; [[DirtyCoward they panicked and chose to stay behind]] after reaching the border, and when their four former TrueCompanions came back after successfully completing their mission, the "heroes" [[MoralEventHorizon ambushed and slaughtered them]] and demonized them into the Four Lances of Betrayal to cover their own asses. After their return, the "heroes" [[VillainWithGoodPublicity were acclaimed throughout the empire]] and got positions of power and prestige as nobility, [[AristocratsAreEvil which they proceeded to abuse and reign oppressively over the populace]]; at least two devolved into monsters, one [[DrivenToMadness went batshit crazy from guilt and paranoia]], and the rest are at the very least flagrant {{hypocrite}}s. The Four Lances stirring up trouble are also fakes using the name as free publicity.]] And that's not mentionning mentioning the FantasticRacism towards those with elven/fairy blood, the numerous other corrupt assholes which liberally pepper the setting, or the fact that TheHero, an AntiHero on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge [[spoiler:against the Seven Heroes, as he's one of the true Four Lances, mysteriously recovered from the massacre]], is still one of the more morally upright main characters bar some others in his current group. And of course, after several good-guy victories and a slowly building HopeSpot for the setting in general, come volume 9 and 10, things go downhill again.
25th Jun '17 9:44:33 AM WillBGood
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* Pick a HideshiHino manga. Any Hideshi Hino manga. Good luck sleeping afterwards.

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* %%* Pick a HideshiHino manga. Any Hideshi Hino manga. Good luck sleeping afterwards.
12th Jun '17 5:09:51 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Things have turned UpToEleven with TheReveal of the Outside World. [[spoiler: Namely that everything we thought we knew up to now was all lies. The human territory? It's on an island and is the last vestige of Eldia, a massive empire of Titan shifters that spent 1,700 years raping and massacring the "inferior races" of the world. The closest inhabited land? Marley; an industrialized, militaristic nation that is eternally pissed off at the Eldians, keeping the survivors relegated to ghettos, and is using the Titan serum for their own purposes. The sudden appearance of the Titans a century ago? Actually a war between Marley and Eldia. The Titans outside the walls? Undesirables that were transformed by Marley and sent to the island. The walls themselves? They're filled with colossal titans, all of which would be released if another war breaks out.]]

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** Things have turned UpToEleven with TheReveal of the Outside World. [[spoiler: Namely that everything we thought we knew up to now was all lies. The human territory? It's on an island and is the last vestige of Eldia, a massive empire of Titan shifters that (allegedly) spent 1,700 years raping and massacring the "inferior races" of the world. The closest inhabited land? Marley; Marley, an industrialized, militaristic human nation that is eternally pissed off at the Eldians, keeping the survivors relegated to ghettos, and is using the Titan serum for their own purposes. The sudden appearance of the Titans a century ago? Actually a war between Marley and Eldia. The Titans outside the walls? Undesirables that were transformed by Marley and sent to the island. The walls themselves? They're filled with colossal titans, all of which would be released if another war breaks out. To top it all off, Marley is currently warring against the other human nations.]]
22nd May '17 8:53:55 PM t209
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** The setting of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron Blooded Orphans]]'' is where both Earth and Mars have been recovering from [[TheGreatOffScreenWar The Calamity War]]. Mars is basically an equivalent to an exploited Third World country, which poverty has become worse to the point where less-fortunate children tend to become either prostitute or ChildSoldiers and most likely[[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]]. Also there are also human abductions and made into [[MadeASlave Human]] [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Debris]] who partake dangerous works, mainly soldiering. Earth Sphere is not that better since, while they are significantly well-off than Mars, Dort Colonies' working class faced [[NoOSHACompliance poor working conditions]] and [[UrbanSegregation bad housings]] with [[spoiler: recent protest ended with a massacre]]. Earth is no better since it too has poverty with an example being [[spoiler: the background of [[VisionaryVillain McGillis]] [[CharClone Fareed]] as a StreetUrchin]]. That miserable conditions being ignored due to the [[AristocratsAreEvil callous]] [[BlueBlood Seven Stars]] of Gjallarhorn, who have become a FallenHero after stopping the war centuries ago.

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** The setting of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron Blooded Orphans]]'' is where both Earth and Mars have been recovering from [[TheGreatOffScreenWar The Calamity War]]. Mars is basically an equivalent to an exploited Third World country, which poverty has become worse to the point where less-fortunate children tend to become either prostitute or ChildSoldiers and most likely[[NeverLearnedToRead likely [[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]]. Also there are also human abductions and made into [[MadeASlave Human]] [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Debris]] who partake dangerous works, mainly soldiering. Earth Sphere is not that better since, while they are significantly well-off than Mars, Dort Colonies' working class faced [[NoOSHACompliance poor working conditions]] and [[UrbanSegregation bad housings]] with [[spoiler: recent protest ended with a massacre]]. Earth is no better since it too has poverty with an example being [[spoiler: the background of [[VisionaryVillain McGillis]] [[CharClone Fareed]] as a StreetUrchin]]. That miserable conditions being ignored due to the [[AristocratsAreEvil callous]] [[BlueBlood Seven Stars]] of Gjallarhorn, who have become a FallenHero after stopping the war centuries ago.
4th May '17 5:56:30 PM 64SuperNintendo
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** However, there are the Seven Ghosts of Pieta which are trying to change the continent, either by killing an EldritchAbomination greater than the others (Priscilla for Clare), or is leading a full scale rebellion against the Organization (Miria). So far [[WorldHalfFull ...both seem to be succeeding]].

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** However, there are the Seven Ghosts of Pieta which are trying to change the continent, either by killing an EldritchAbomination greater than the others (Priscilla for Clare), or is leading a full scale full-scale rebellion against the Organization (Miria). So far [[WorldHalfFull ...both seem to be succeeding]].
1st May '17 10:53:41 PM t209
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** The setting of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron Blooded Orphans]]'' is where both Earth and Mars have been recovering from [[TheGreatOffScreenWar The Calamity War]]. Mars is basically an equivalent to an exploited Third World country, which poverty has become worse to the point where less-fortunate children tend to become either prostitute or ChildSoldiers and most likely[[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]]. Also there are also human abductions and made into [[MadeASlave Human]] [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Debris]] who partake dangerous works, mainly soldiering. Earth Sphere is not that better since, while they are significantly well-off than Mars, Dort Colonies' working class faced [[NoOSHACompliance poor working conditions]] and [[UrbanSegregation bad housings]] with [[spoiler: recent protest ended with a massacre]]. Earth is no better since it too has poverty with an example being [[spoiler: the background of [[VisionaryVillain McGillis]] [[CharClone Fareed]] as a StreetUrchin]]. That miserable conditions being ignored due to the [[AristocratsAreEvil callous]] [[BlueBlood Seven Families]] of Gjallarhorn, who have become a FallenHero after stopping the war centuries ago.

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** The setting of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron Blooded Orphans]]'' is where both Earth and Mars have been recovering from [[TheGreatOffScreenWar The Calamity War]]. Mars is basically an equivalent to an exploited Third World country, which poverty has become worse to the point where less-fortunate children tend to become either prostitute or ChildSoldiers and most likely[[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]]. Also there are also human abductions and made into [[MadeASlave Human]] [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Debris]] who partake dangerous works, mainly soldiering. Earth Sphere is not that better since, while they are significantly well-off than Mars, Dort Colonies' working class faced [[NoOSHACompliance poor working conditions]] and [[UrbanSegregation bad housings]] with [[spoiler: recent protest ended with a massacre]]. Earth is no better since it too has poverty with an example being [[spoiler: the background of [[VisionaryVillain McGillis]] [[CharClone Fareed]] as a StreetUrchin]]. That miserable conditions being ignored due to the [[AristocratsAreEvil callous]] [[BlueBlood Seven Families]] Stars]] of Gjallarhorn, who have become a FallenHero after stopping the war centuries ago.
1st May '17 10:48:17 PM t209
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** The setting of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans Iron Blooded Orphans]]'' is where both Earth and Mars have been recovering from [[TheGreatOffScreenWar The Calamity War]]. Mars is basically an equivalent to an exploited Third World country, which poverty has become worse to the point where less-fortunate children tend to become either prostitute or ChildSoldiers and most likely[[NeverLearnedToRead illiterate]]. Also there are also human abductions and made into [[MadeASlave Human]] [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Debris]] who partake dangerous works, mainly soldiering. Earth Sphere is not that better since, while they are significantly well-off than Mars, Dort Colonies' working class faced [[NoOSHACompliance poor working conditions]] and [[UrbanSegregation bad housings]] with [[spoiler: recent protest ended with a massacre]]. Earth is no better since it too has poverty with an example being [[spoiler: the background of [[VisionaryVillain McGillis]] [[CharClone Fareed]] as a StreetUrchin]]. That miserable conditions being ignored due to the [[AristocratsAreEvil callous]] [[BlueBlood Seven Families]] of Gjallarhorn, who have become a FallenHero after stopping the war centuries ago.
21st Apr '17 3:48:34 PM Tehrannotaur
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* Between the warmongering kingdoms and their [[AristocratsAreEvil corrupt nobility]], the [[CorruptChurch heresy-crushing Holy See]], and [[DemonLordsAndArchDevils the evil Godhand]] [[TheLegionsOfHell and their ravenous demonic Apostles]], life in the world of ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' really, really, really, really, really, [[OverlyLongGag really]] sucks hardcore. [[CosmicHorrorStory The world seems to exist only to make people as miserable as possible and to give the demons somewhere to play]]; humanity exists so that the demons have something to play with. The biggest idealist in the entire setting (who is ''anything'' but altruistic and is quite willing to use ruthless methods to accomplish his dream) snapped under the pressure and is now the BigBad.You can't expect much else in a world where [[spoiler:[[GodIsEvil God itself was created as a result of humans subconsciously wishing for a cause to their misery]], and has been busy being that cause ever since; it even calls itself "the Idea of Evil"]].

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* Between the warmongering kingdoms and their [[AristocratsAreEvil corrupt nobility]], the [[CorruptChurch heresy-crushing Holy See]], and [[DemonLordsAndArchDevils the evil Godhand]] [[TheLegionsOfHell and their ravenous demonic Apostles]], life in the world of ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' really, really, really, really, really, [[OverlyLongGag really]] sucks hardcore.[[UpToEleven hardcore]]. [[CosmicHorrorStory The world seems to exist only to make people as miserable as possible and to give the demons somewhere to play]]; humanity exists so that the demons have something to play with. The biggest idealist in the entire setting (who is ''anything'' but altruistic and is quite willing to use ruthless methods to accomplish his dream) snapped under the pressure and is now the BigBad.You can't expect much else in a world where [[spoiler:[[GodIsEvil God itself was created as a result of humans subconsciously wishing for a cause to their misery]], and has been busy being that cause ever since; it even calls itself "the Idea of Evil"]].



--->As you could probably tell from reading any one volume, the world of Heavy Object is a shitty world where the good are not rewarded and the evil are not punished.

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--->As you could probably tell from reading any one volume, the world of Heavy Object is a shitty world where [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished the good are not rewarded rewarded]] and [[KarmaHoudini the evil are not punished.punished]].
8th Apr '17 12:53:02 PM lillolillo
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* The world of ''Anime/GetterRobo Armageddon'' turns into this partway through the series after the Getter Bomb, a hydrogen bomb that goes off on Shin Dragon's head as it fires a Getter Beam, saturates the world in Getter Energy, allowing the EldritchAbomination known as the Invaders to run rampant through the world.

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* The world of ''Anime/GetterRobo ''Manga/GetterRobo Armageddon'' turns into this partway through the series after the Getter Bomb, a hydrogen bomb that goes off on Shin Dragon's head as it fires a Getter Beam, saturates the world in Getter Energy, allowing the EldritchAbomination known as the Invaders to run rampant through the world.
11th Mar '17 9:41:05 AM nombretomado
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* ''Anime/PsychoPass'' takes us 100 years into TheFuture, by which time [[MindReading people's minds can be quantified]] and people's "criminality coefficients" are [[BigBrotherIsWatching tracked by the Sybil System]]. If you so much as have a brief thought about harming someone, you will be either drafted [[RecruitingTheCriminal as a special police officer]] or summarily executed without trial by a gun that turns you into PinkMist. Oh, and juvenile statutes [[WouldHurtAChild have since been revoked]], so there are no exemptions for children. (Sound familiar? This series was written by [[GenUrobuchi the same guy]] as ''Madoka'' above.) This has all led to a brutal societal emphasis on sanity at all costs, to the point where antidepressant abuse has skyrocketed and a certain girls' boarding school advertises its old-fashioned sheltering from the world...and most art has been restricted.

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* ''Anime/PsychoPass'' takes us 100 years into TheFuture, by which time [[MindReading people's minds can be quantified]] and people's "criminality coefficients" are [[BigBrotherIsWatching tracked by the Sybil System]]. If you so much as have a brief thought about harming someone, you will be either drafted [[RecruitingTheCriminal as a special police officer]] or summarily executed without trial by a gun that turns you into PinkMist. Oh, and juvenile statutes [[WouldHurtAChild have since been revoked]], so there are no exemptions for children. (Sound familiar? This series was written by [[GenUrobuchi [[Creator/GenUrobuchi the same guy]] as ''Madoka'' above.) This has all led to a brutal societal emphasis on sanity at all costs, to the point where antidepressant abuse has skyrocketed and a certain girls' boarding school advertises its old-fashioned sheltering from the world...and most art has been restricted.
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