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19th Oct '17 1:19:45 PM Jhonny
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*** To explain, during the infamous Spanish Inquisition, accusing your neighbor of being a witch would not get them tortured or executed. It would get you punished and then re-educated for believing in witches. The Spanish Inquisiton actually stopped conducting witch trials after a single occurrence, acquitting nearly all of the accused because the evidence was deemed incredible, with some judges expressing open skepticism toward the charges.o

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*** To explain, during the infamous Spanish Inquisition, accusing your neighbor of being a witch would not get them tortured or executed. It would get you punished and then re-educated for believing in witches. The Spanish Inquisiton actually stopped conducting witch trials after a single occurrence, acquitting nearly all of the accused because the evidence was deemed incredible, with some judges expressing open skepticism toward the charges.o
9th Oct '17 12:33:21 AM Fireblood
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** Likewise, yes, Stalin was an atheist, but that doesn't mean every atheist on the planet is Stalin 2.0. He also spent his youth studying to become a Russian Orthodox Priest, that doesn't mean all people who drop out of Priest school intend to become dictator.
* The idea that the Antichrist is a character in the Bible is the result of this trope combined with something like {{values dissonance}}. Centuries of religious scholars struggling to find ''something'' new and fresh to say about Scripture, millennia after the stuff was written, is bound to produce some unusual theories. Although the term "Antichrist" doesn't appear a single time in the book of Revelation: the term "the Beast" is used instead.

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** * Likewise, yes, Stalin was an atheist, but that doesn't mean every atheist on the planet is Stalin 2.0. He also spent his youth studying to become a Russian Orthodox Priest, that priest-that doesn't mean all people who drop out of Priest school seminary intend to become a dictator.
* The idea that the Antichrist is a character in the Bible is the result of this trope combined with something like {{values dissonance}}. Centuries of religious scholars struggling to find ''something'' new and fresh to say about Scripture, millennia after the stuff was written, is bound to produce some unusual theories. Although the The term "Antichrist" doesn't appear a single time in the book of Revelation: the term "the Beast" is used instead.



** "666" isn't the number of the beast, it's the number of ''a'' man. It means the beast is a human (sometimes theorized to be Nero by modern scholars, though the identity of the man in question is open season when it comes to theories and wild speculations: for Fundamentalist Protestants (and perhaps Eastern Orthodox Christians as well) it's the Pope of Rome; for some it's whichever evil dictator or political opponent that happens to be around at the time, though these people are often derided).

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** "666" isn't the number of the beast, it's the number of ''a'' man. It means the beast Beast is a human (sometimes theorized to be Nero by modern scholars, though the identity of the man in question is open season when it comes to theories and wild speculations: for Fundamentalist Protestants (and perhaps Eastern Orthodox Christians as well) it's the Pope of Rome; for some it's whichever evil dictator or political opponent that happens to be around at the time, though these people are often derided).



* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, while the ''Literature/BookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the historical fact the Romans back then [[FairForItsDay were indeed troubled by the problem of sexual immorality]], such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome same-sex concubines and prostitution]], it ''never'' tells the people to hate gay people, it merely tells them to flee from sexual immorality.
* Many, many people do not seem to realize that the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of '''Mary''', not Jesus. The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception means that Mary, although conceived by normal biological means, was miraculously preserved from original sin. (The conception of Jesus is called the Incarnation.) This is perhaps understandable in some contexts, but the confusion is often propagated by people making an argument for the divine nature of Jesus.

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* God does not hate ''anyone'' ''anyone'', let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, while the ''Literature/BookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the historical fact the Romans back then [[FairForItsDay were indeed troubled by the problem of sexual immorality]], such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome same-sex concubines and prostitution]], it ''never'' tells the people to hate gay people, it merely tells them to flee from sexual immorality.
* Many, many people do not seem to realize that the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of '''Mary''', not Jesus. The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception means that Mary, although conceived by normal biological means, was miraculously preserved from original sin. (The sin (the conception of Jesus is called the Incarnation.) Incarnation). This is perhaps understandable in some contexts, but the confusion is often propagated by people making an argument for the divine nature of Jesus.



** And oft-repeated snarky comments about "super-short pregnancy", since the Feast of Immaculate Conception comes shortly before Christmas. The Feast of Annunciation is exactly 9 months before Christmas. Furthermore, most educated Christians are aware that December 25 is not the actual birth date of Jesus.

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** And oft-repeated snarky comments about "super-short pregnancy", since the Feast of Immaculate Conception comes shortly before Christmas. The Feast of Annunciation is exactly 9 months before Christmas. Furthermore, most educated Christians are aware that December 25 is not the actual birth date of Jesus. No one knows when that was, but some theorize it occurred in the spring as that's when the shepherds tended their flocks. It's cold during winter even in the Holy Land after all.



** And historically, the Catholic Church is invariably associated with "witch burning". While the Church is not innocent itself - the Inquisition has led to executions of a fair number of heretics - witch hunts and burnings were a Protestant thing, mostly done by Lutherans and Calvinists.
*** The witch hunts were both Protestant and Catholic. France saw a large number of trials. That said, over most of its history Catholic doctrine was officially that witchcraft did not exist (the closest thing being the insistence on applying the old Roman law demanding the execution of ''poisoners''--that, under Roman law, fell under witchcraft). Witch trials peaked after the Protestant Reformation occurred. This does not exonerate Catholics who were involved, but the Protestants--who took a more literal view of the Bible in general, including the parts professing a belief in and condemning witchcraft--contributed more heavily to this trend.
*** To explain, during the infamous Spanish Inquisition, accusing your neighbor of being a witch would not get them tortured or executed. It would get you punished and then re-educated for believing in witches.

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** And historically, the Catholic Church is invariably associated with "witch burning". While the Church is not innocent itself - the Inquisition has led to executions of a fair number of heretics - witch hunts and burnings were a Protestant thing, mostly done by Lutherans and Calvinists.
*** The witch hunts were
both Protestant and Catholic.Catholic Europeans. France saw a large number of trials. That said, over most of its history Catholic doctrine was officially that witchcraft did not exist (the closest thing being the insistence on applying the old Roman law demanding the execution of ''poisoners''--that, under Roman law, fell under witchcraft). Witch trials peaked after the Protestant Reformation occurred. This does not exonerate Catholics who were involved, but the Protestants--who took a more literal view of the Bible in general, including the parts professing a belief in and condemning witchcraft--contributed more heavily to this trend.
*** To explain, during the infamous Spanish Inquisition, accusing your neighbor of being a witch would not get them tortured or executed. It would get you punished and then re-educated for believing in witches. The Spanish Inquisiton actually stopped conducting witch trials after a single occurrence, acquitting nearly all of the accused because the evidence was deemed incredible, with some judges expressing open skepticism toward the charges.o



* Baptists have a habit of being fundamentalists, but this is purely a result of the denomination's particular clerical hierarchy. Or more specifically, it's lack of one. The pastor is as high as it goes, so each Baptist church is independent of all the others. The sole unifying factor is the belief that baptism should not be performed on infants, but on adults who have made the ''conscious decision'' to come to Christ; as long as you believe that, you can believe anything else (that's not an outright heresy) and still call yourself a Baptist. The reason The lack of Hierarchy results in fundamentalism is because there's nobody above the pastor to correct them using their superior scholarship.

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* Baptists have a habit of being fundamentalists, but this is purely a result of the denomination's particular clerical hierarchy. Or more specifically, it's lack of one. The pastor is as high as it goes, so each Baptist church is independent of all the others. The sole unifying factor is the belief that baptism should not be performed on infants, but on adults who have made the ''conscious decision'' to come to Christ; as long as you believe that, you can believe anything else (that's not an outright heresy) and still call yourself a Baptist. The reason The lack of Hierarchy hierarchy results in fundamentalism is because there's nobody above the pastor to correct them using their superior scholarship.scholarship. It also makes Baptist churches historically prone to schisms over doctrine, like free will vs. predestination.



** Also worth noting: Witches weren't necessarily burned alive. In many cases, the punishment for witchcraft was being hanged, '''then''' having ones' body burned at the stake. Funeral rituals were SeriousBusiness, and being burned rather than properly buried was a horrible thought to most Christians back in the day.

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** Also worth noting: Witches witches weren't necessarily burned alive. In many cases, the punishment for witchcraft was being hanged, '''then''' having ones' body burned at the stake. Funeral rituals were SeriousBusiness, and being burned rather than properly buried was a horrible thought to most Christians back in the day.



** Although to be fair, plenty of modern neopagans are [[NWordPrivileges more than willing to use the term to identify themselves]], and followers of the old Germanic religion (which goes by several names, most prominently Asatru) use the similar term "Heathen" to refer to themselves. Both words originally meant "rustic" or "country folk", who were historically the last to convert to Christianity.

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** Although to be fair, plenty of modern neopagans are [[NWordPrivileges more than willing to use the term to identify themselves]], and followers of the old Germanic religion (which goes by several names, most prominently Asatru) use the similar term "Heathen" to refer to themselves. Both words originally meant "rustic" or "country folk", who were historically the last to convert to Christianity.Christianity, in some cases keeping their old religion (or at least elements of it) for ''centuries'' after the official conversion occurred.



** Although some Protestant leaders in Mexico would tell their followers not to celebrate either Halloween or Mexican Dia de Muertos because of their unbiblical origins, Catholic groups almost exclusively accuse Halloween of it, while encouraging people to celebrate Dia de Muertos, [[FanMyopia disregarding its nature as a pagan ancestor worship celebration]].
* Plenty of people do not know anything about Judaism except that Jews cannot eat pork, their Bible is the same as the Old Testament and they celebrate Hanukkah (which is basically like Christmas, right?)[[note]]Hanukkah is nothing like Christmas and it isn't even a very important holiday in Judaism - in fact, it's emphasized so much in America specifically to compete with Christmas[[/note]]. In reality, Jews have a lot of different dietary laws, they have an entirely different tradition of exegesis from Christianity (based on the Literature/{{Talmud}}) and they have several important holidays (among them Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah, Passover and Purim). That's not even getting into the differences between Orthodox and mainstream Judaism (or, why those guys [[NiceHat wear those funny hats]]) or the reasons behind kosher slaughter and circumcision (depending on who you talk to, you'd think Jews do nothing but lop the penises off innocent baby boys and slit the throats of farm animals just ForTheEvulz).

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** Although some Protestant leaders in Mexico would tell their followers not to celebrate either Halloween or Mexican Dia de los Muertos because of their unbiblical origins, Catholic groups almost exclusively accuse Halloween of it, while encouraging people to celebrate Dia de los Muertos, [[FanMyopia disregarding its nature as a pagan ancestor worship celebration]].
* Plenty of people do not know anything about Judaism except that Jews cannot eat pork, their Bible is the same as the Old Testament and they celebrate Hanukkah (which is basically like Christmas, right?)[[note]]Hanukkah right?).[[note]]Hanukkah is nothing like Christmas and it isn't even a very important holiday in Judaism - in fact, it's emphasized so much in America specifically to compete with Christmas[[/note]]. Christmas.[[/note]] In reality, Jews have a lot of different dietary laws, they have an entirely different tradition of exegesis from Christianity (based on the Literature/{{Talmud}}) and they have several important holidays (among them Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah, Passover and Purim). That's not even getting into the differences between Orthodox and mainstream Judaism (or, why those guys [[NiceHat wear those funny hats]]) or the reasons behind kosher slaughter and circumcision (depending on who you talk to, you'd think Jews do nothing but lop the penises off innocent baby boys and slit the throats of farm animals just ForTheEvulz).



** Few people who haven't read it actually know what is in the Talmud. Part of it is because the Talmud is basically commentary on commentary on commentary on interpretation of scripture. And when two contrasting viewpoints are explored that's not a bug but a feature. Misquoting the Talmud is easy and frequently done around the web [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and that's all that needs to be said on this]].

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** Few people who haven't read it actually know what is in the Talmud. Part of it is because the Talmud is basically commentary on commentary on commentary on interpretation of scripture. And when two contrasting viewpoints are explored that's not a bug but a feature. Misquoting the Talmud is easy and frequently done around the web web, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and that's all that needs to be said on this]].



* {{UsefulNotes/Islam}} [[AcceptableTargets gets it particularly bad]]. Most Westerners don't know anything about the religion and its beliefs, let alone that [[NotSoDifferent Muslims hold Jesus and Mary in high esteem]], or that [[NeverHurtAnInnocent killing civilians is strictly forbidden under Islamic law]]. [[note]]In fact, there's a heck of a lot of stuff the Koran forbids but that Alquaeda and ISIS do anyway, although this is actually simply because most people in the middle east are illiterate.[[/note]] [[OlderThanPrint This isn't a new thing either]]: in medieval Europe there was a widespread belief that Islam was a pagan desert cult centered around the worship of Muhammad[[note]]Muslims do not ever worship Muhammad or anyone but Allah (God). This is SeriousBusiness[[/note]] and its followers were called "Mohammedans" for this reason. Even today, most Westerners who criticize Islam on the grounds of its being misogynist, violent, and reactionary etc. have doubtless never read the entire Qur'an.

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* {{UsefulNotes/Islam}} [[AcceptableTargets gets it particularly bad]]. Most Westerners don't know anything about the religion and its beliefs, let alone that [[NotSoDifferent Muslims hold Jesus and Mary in high esteem]], or that [[NeverHurtAnInnocent killing civilians is strictly forbidden under Islamic law]]. [[note]]In fact, there's a heck of a lot of stuff the Koran forbids but that Alquaeda and ISIS do anyway, although this is actually simply because most people in the middle east are illiterate.[[/note]] [[OlderThanPrint This isn't a new thing either]]: in medieval Europe there was a widespread belief that Islam was a pagan desert cult centered around the worship of Muhammad[[note]]Muslims do not ever worship Muhammad or anyone but Allah (God). This is SeriousBusiness[[/note]] and its followers were called "Mohammedans" for this reason. Even today, most Westerners who criticize Islam on the grounds of its being misogynist, violent, and reactionary etc. have doubtless never read the entire Qur'an.Qur'an.
** On that note, much of Islamic law (Sharia) comes not from the Qur'an, but hadiths (the sayings of Muhammed). This includes most of the more controversial bits, like stoning adulterers. Which hadiths are valid is disputed.



** Also thinking that Hades was the Greek equivalent of Satan and that the Greek Underworld was a FireAndBrimstoneHell. In reality Hades was a very nice guy and probably one of the more benevolent gods and the Greek Underworld has nothing to do with the Christian Hell (which doesn’t had Fire and Brimstone either but that’s another story). Hollywood is probably the one to blame as Hades is often depicted as a Devilish version in most movies like Disney’s Hercules and the Percy Jackson movie (not the book though). The Hades in Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys was more accurate.

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** Also thinking that Hades was the Greek equivalent of Satan and that the Greek Underworld was a FireAndBrimstoneHell. In reality Hades was a very nice guy and probably one of the more benevolent gods and the Greek Underworld has nothing to do with the Christian Hell (which doesn’t had have Fire and Brimstone either but that’s another story). Hollywood is probably the one to blame as Hades is often depicted as a Devilish version in most movies like Disney’s Hercules and the Percy Jackson movie (not the book though). The Hades in Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys was more accurate.



* What does the average Westerner (or Easterner) know about Hinduism? Let's guess: they have tons of gods, which are all blue and have multiple arms (somewhat TruthInTelevision, yes, but how many can they name?) they like cows, and they have a sacred river, and this book called the Bhagavad-Gita, and they can all reincarnate at will[[note]]Reincarnation does not work that way. It's also considered undesirable; the whole point of being saintly, in their theology, is to break ''free'' of the cycle of reincarnation and ascend to Heaven/Nirvana.[[/note]]. The more worldly among them might know there is an autumn festival called Divali, but that's about it.

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* What does the average Westerner (or Easterner) know about Hinduism? Let's guess: they have tons of gods, which are all blue and have multiple arms (somewhat TruthInTelevision, yes, but how many can they name?) they like cows, and they have a sacred river, and this book called the Bhagavad-Gita, and they can all reincarnate at will[[note]]Reincarnation will.[[note]]Reincarnation does not work that way. It's also considered undesirable; the whole point of being saintly, in their theology, is to break ''free'' of the cycle of reincarnation and ascend to Heaven/Nirvana.[[/note]]. [[/note]] The more worldly among them might know there is an autumn festival called Divali, but that's about it.



* Voodoo, or more accurately [[UsefulNotes/{{Voudoun}} vodou]], is often stereotyped as [[HollywoodVoodoo a Satanic cult dedicated to human sacrifices, inflicting curses, and raising zombies]], when in fact there are two forms of vodou: Haitian and Louisiana, both of which originate from the syncretism of the West African vodun religion with Roman Catholicism. Vodou, Haitian vodou in particular, involves the veneration of spirits called ''loa'' or ''lwa'', who act as intermediaries between the Houngan, or priest, and a supreme deity called Bondye, similar to the relationship between angels and God in Abrahamic traditions. Louisiana voodoo, which is often conflated with its Caribbean counterpart, is similar but places more emphasis on charms called ''gris-gris''[[note]]which is where the Hollywood "voodoo doll" originates[[/note]], voodoo queens (or more properly, mambos), use of Hoodoo occult paraphernalia, and the veneration of Li Grand Zombi, a snake deity.

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* Voodoo, or more accurately [[UsefulNotes/{{Voudoun}} vodou]], is often stereotyped as [[HollywoodVoodoo a Satanic cult dedicated to human sacrifices, inflicting curses, and raising zombies]], when in fact there are two forms of vodou: Haitian and Louisiana, both of which originate from the syncretism of the West African vodun religion with Roman Catholicism. Vodou, Haitian vodou in particular, involves the veneration of spirits called ''loa'' or ''lwa'', who act as intermediaries between the Houngan, or priest, and a supreme deity called Bondye, similar to the relationship between angels and God in Abrahamic traditions. Louisiana voodoo, which is often conflated with its Caribbean counterpart, is similar but places more emphasis on charms called ''gris-gris''[[note]]which ''gris-gris'',[[note]]Which is where the Hollywood "voodoo doll" originates[[/note]], originates[[/note]] voodoo queens (or more properly, mambos), use of Hoodoo occult paraphernalia, and the veneration of Li Grand Zombi, a snake deity.



* In one Christian mentalfundalist book called ''Armageddon for Beginners'' ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin about the end-times]]), the author slags off the movie ''Apocalypse Now'' for "not being a true depiction of the Apocalypse". He jumped to the conclusion, based on nothing but the name, that ''Apocalypse Now'' is about ''the'' (Biblical) Apocalypse rather than just ''an'' apocalypse, then blamed the movie because ''he'' turned out to be wrong.

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* In one Christian mentalfundalist fundamentalist book called ''Armageddon for Beginners'' ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin about the end-times]]), the author slags off the movie ''Apocalypse Now'' for "not being a true depiction of the Apocalypse". He jumped to the conclusion, based on nothing but the name, that ''Apocalypse Now'' is about ''the'' (Biblical) Apocalypse rather than just ''an'' apocalypse, then blamed the movie because ''he'' turned out to be wrong.



* Atheism is ''not'' a religion, like "not smoking" is a not a habit. This hasn't stopped the most stubborn from painting it as such, such as the claims that atheists pray to scientists or Satan. They are also occasionally decipted as nihilists or misantropists, when most actually believe that with only one life, you might as well use it to help others. And yes, I noticed the irony of writing this on the Myth & Religion page.

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* Atheism is ''not'' a religion, like "not smoking" is a not a habit. This hasn't stopped the most stubborn from painting it as such, such as the claims that atheists pray to scientists or Satan. They are also occasionally decipted as nihilists or misantropists, when most actually believe that with only one life, you might as well use it to help others. And yes, I noticed the irony of writing this on the Myth & Religion page. There are such things as nontheistic religions and religions compatible to atheism though, as mentioned previously. For that matter, ''theism'' itself is not a religion-there are many theists who don't belong to any religion ("spiritual but not religious" is a common moniker, though this includes atheists or agnostics sometimes as well, depending on how you define "spiritual").
24th Sep '17 3:24:40 PM BrendanRizzo
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** The idea that the Catholic Church endorses creationism and has persecuted scientists in the past, to the point where it is cited as THE force behind the controversy surrounding Darwinism. The official teaching of the Church is that the question of evolution vs. creationism is irrelevant to salvation and therefore everyone is free to take whatever stance they want on that; in practice, the mainstream of Church thought on the matter leans toward theistic evolution (God intends His creations to evolve). Also, this has actually been the Church's '''first''' official statement concerning evolution, made in the early 20th century. The controversy over Darwinism was primarily an Anglican thing. Plus, many non-religious naturalists of Darwin's time were also against his theory.

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** The idea that the Catholic Church endorses creationism and has persecuted scientists in the past, to the point where it is cited as THE force behind the controversy surrounding Darwinism. The official teaching of the Church is that the question of evolution vs. creationism is irrelevant to salvation and therefore everyone is free to take whatever stance they want on that; in practice, the mainstream of Church thought on the matter leans toward theistic evolution (God intends His creations to evolve). Also, this has actually been the Church's '''first''' official statement concerning evolution, made in the early 20th century. The controversy over Darwinism was primarily an Anglican thing. Plus, many non-religious naturalists of Darwin's time were also against his theory. theory until evidence was found to support it.
24th Sep '17 3:22:27 PM BrendanRizzo
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* Hitler frequently professed his Roman Catholicism in public and expressed some admiration for Martin Luther in Literature/MeinKampf but he privately expressed disdain for religion in general and Christianity in particular. Even if Hitler was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s a Christian]], [[HitlerAteSugar he also wore pants. Does that make wearing pants evil?]]

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* Hitler frequently professed his Roman Catholicism in public and expressed some admiration for [[LogicBomb Martin Luther Luther]] in Literature/MeinKampf but he privately expressed disdain for religion in general and Christianity in particular. Even if Hitler was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s a Christian]], [[HitlerAteSugar he also wore pants. Does that make wearing pants evil?]]
26th Aug '17 6:21:47 PM Jhonny
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* Even if Hitler ''had'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s been a Christian]], [[HitlerAteSugar he also wore pants. Does that make wearing pants evil?]]
** Likewise, yes, Stalin was an atheist, but that doesn't mean every atheist on the planet is Stalin 2.0.

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* Hitler frequently professed his Roman Catholicism in public and expressed some admiration for Martin Luther in Literature/MeinKampf but he privately expressed disdain for religion in general and Christianity in particular. Even if Hitler ''had'' was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s been a Christian]], [[HitlerAteSugar he also wore pants. Does that make wearing pants evil?]]
** Likewise, yes, Stalin was an atheist, but that doesn't mean every atheist on the planet is Stalin 2.0. He also spent his youth studying to become a Russian Orthodox Priest, that doesn't mean all people who drop out of Priest school intend to become dictator.
26th Aug '17 6:19:11 PM Jhonny
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* If you genuinely think that God is supposed to be a [[GrandpaGod physical 6ft Caucasian human male]] with a stomach, bladder, and scrotum and who sits on a cloud within Earth's atmosphere,[[note]]To be fair, a handful do believe this, but they are strictly [[JackChick ''EXTREMELY'' Fundamentalist]][[/note]] that Jesus is held to look Germanic [[note]] Jesus probably would have looked white contraire to modern claims from politically motivated groups and nonwhite Christians claim, he just would have had a darker shade of white skin compared to many depictions in Hollywoood and the English speaking world[[/note]], that anything more than a minority of Christians are Creationists OR homophobes OR sexists OR racists, that X thing being included or mentioned in the Bible in-and-of itself automatically means God condones it, or that the contents of Bible can be perfectly understood at face value despite the fact that we are a culture thousands of years and miles from the one that wrote it, then you are ''inexcusably'' ignorant on the topic of Christianity, and will doubtlessly learn ''a lot'' from this article (if you don't read it, then it's only a matter of time before you get into an argument with someone who knows enough of the subject matter to ''eat you alive'').

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* If you genuinely think that God is supposed to be a [[GrandpaGod physical 6ft Caucasian human male]] with a stomach, bladder, and scrotum and who sits on a cloud within Earth's atmosphere,[[note]]To be fair, a handful do believe this, but they are strictly [[JackChick ''EXTREMELY'' Fundamentalist]][[/note]] that Jesus is held to look Germanic [[note]] Jesus probably would have looked about as brownish white contraire to as modern claims Israeli Jews or Arabs from politically motivated groups the area. He'd likely have kept his hair and nonwhite Christians claim, he just would beard short, too. It's likely he'd have had a darker shade of healthy tan due to being an itinerant preacher. Lily white skin compared to many depictions in Hollywoood and the English speaking world[[/note]], Jesus with flowing long hair is just as absurd as black Jesus or Chinese Jesus[[/note]], that anything more than a minority of Christians are Creationists OR homophobes OR sexists OR racists, that X thing being included or mentioned in the Bible in-and-of itself automatically means God condones it, or that the contents of Bible can be perfectly understood at face value despite the fact that we are a culture thousands of years and miles from the one that wrote it, then you are ''inexcusably'' ignorant on the topic of Christianity, and will doubtlessly learn ''a lot'' from this article (if you don't read it, then it's only a matter of time before you get into an argument with someone who knows enough of the subject matter to ''eat you alive'').
4th Aug '17 6:02:58 AM Killerikala
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** Likewise, yes, Stalin was an atheist, but that doesn't mean every atheist on the planet is Stalin 2.0.



* In Judaism, it is a commonly-held but false belief that one should not stay in the sanctuary for the Yizkor (Memorial) Service on Yom Kippur if both of their parents are alive. Although many people believe this is supposed to be bad luck and leave during this portion, rabbis typically know better and encourage people to stay. Depending on which sect the congregation is, the service may also include prayers for other relatives as well as Holocaust victims and martyrs. At the very least, it includes a generic memorial prayer for any male relatives who have passed on and a similar one for deceased female relatives.

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* In Judaism, it is a commonly-held but false belief that one should not stay in the sanctuary for the Yizkor (Memorial) Service on Yom Kippur if both of their parents are alive. Although many people believe this is supposed to be bad luck and leave during this portion, rabbis typically know better and encourage people to stay. Depending on which sect the congregation is, the service may also include prayers for other relatives as well as Holocaust victims and martyrs. At the very least, it includes a generic memorial prayer for any male relatives who have passed on and a similar one for deceased female relatives.relatives.
* Atheism is ''not'' a religion, like "not smoking" is a not a habit. This hasn't stopped the most stubborn from painting it as such, such as the claims that atheists pray to scientists or Satan. They are also occasionally decipted as nihilists or misantropists, when most actually believe that with only one life, you might as well use it to help others. And yes, I noticed the irony of writing this on the Myth & Religion page.
4th Aug '17 4:03:39 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Voodoo, or more accurately [[{{Voudoun}} vodou]], is often stereotyped as [[HollywoodVoodoo a Satanic cult dedicated to human sacrifices, inflicting curses, and raising zombies]], when in fact there are two forms of vodou: Haitian and Louisiana, both of which originate from the syncretism of the West African vodun religion with Roman Catholicism. Vodou, Haitian vodou in particular, involves the veneration of spirits called ''loa'' or ''lwa'', who act as intermediaries between the Houngan, or priest, and a supreme deity called Bondye, similar to the relationship between angels and God in Abrahamic traditions. Louisiana voodoo, which is often conflated with its Caribbean counterpart, is similar but places more emphasis on charms called ''gris-gris''[[note]]which is where the Hollywood "voodoo doll" originates[[/note]], voodoo queens (or more properly, mambos), use of Hoodoo occult paraphernalia, and the veneration of Li Grand Zombi, a snake deity.

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* Voodoo, or more accurately [[{{Voudoun}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Voudoun}} vodou]], is often stereotyped as [[HollywoodVoodoo a Satanic cult dedicated to human sacrifices, inflicting curses, and raising zombies]], when in fact there are two forms of vodou: Haitian and Louisiana, both of which originate from the syncretism of the West African vodun religion with Roman Catholicism. Vodou, Haitian vodou in particular, involves the veneration of spirits called ''loa'' or ''lwa'', who act as intermediaries between the Houngan, or priest, and a supreme deity called Bondye, similar to the relationship between angels and God in Abrahamic traditions. Louisiana voodoo, which is often conflated with its Caribbean counterpart, is similar but places more emphasis on charms called ''gris-gris''[[note]]which is where the Hollywood "voodoo doll" originates[[/note]], voodoo queens (or more properly, mambos), use of Hoodoo occult paraphernalia, and the veneration of Li Grand Zombi, a snake deity.
30th Jun '17 7:54:55 AM Cuddles
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** Buddhism is known as a largely pacifistic religion, with practitioners usually being vegetarian (since you might be eating someone who has been reincarnated as an animal) and even going so far as to sweep the floor to avoid stepping on bugs. In fact, Buddhists have been involved in plenty of wars and violence over the years, and learning martial arts in a remote Buddhist temple has been a stable of fiction for a long time. The religion whose practitioners sometimes sweep to avoid killing bugs is Jainism, a religion as old as Buddhism which most people know even less about.


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** Although to be fair, neo-pagans have as much connection to the original religions as modern Wiccans do; both are inventions of the 20th century, with the original beliefs having died out hundreds of years ago.
7th Jun '17 10:08:11 AM MormonPazazu
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* If you genuinely think that God is supposed to be a [[GrandpaGod physical 6ft Caucasian human male]] with a stomach, bladder, and scrotum and who sits on a cloud within Earth's atmosphere,[[note]]To be fair, a handful do believe this, but they are strictly [[JackChick ''EXTREMELY'' Fundamentalist]][[/note]] that Jesus is held to look Germanic [[note]] Jesus probably would have looked white contraire to modern claims from politically motivated groups and nonwhite Christians claim, he just would have had a darker shade of white skin compared to many depictions in Hollywoood and the English speaking world[/note], that anything more than a minority of Christians are Creationists OR homophobes OR sexists OR racists, that X thing being included or mentioned in the Bible in-and-of itself automatically means God condones it, or that the contents of Bible can be perfectly understood at face value despite the fact that we are a culture thousands of years and miles from the one that wrote it, then you are ''inexcusably'' ignorant on the topic of Christianity, and will doubtlessly learn ''a lot'' from this article (if you don't read it, then it's only a matter of time before you get into an argument with someone who knows enough of the subject matter to ''eat you alive'').

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* If you genuinely think that God is supposed to be a [[GrandpaGod physical 6ft Caucasian human male]] with a stomach, bladder, and scrotum and who sits on a cloud within Earth's atmosphere,[[note]]To be fair, a handful do believe this, but they are strictly [[JackChick ''EXTREMELY'' Fundamentalist]][[/note]] that Jesus is held to look Germanic [[note]] Jesus probably would have looked white contraire to modern claims from politically motivated groups and nonwhite Christians claim, he just would have had a darker shade of white skin compared to many depictions in Hollywoood and the English speaking world[/note], world[[/note]], that anything more than a minority of Christians are Creationists OR homophobes OR sexists OR racists, that X thing being included or mentioned in the Bible in-and-of itself automatically means God condones it, or that the contents of Bible can be perfectly understood at face value despite the fact that we are a culture thousands of years and miles from the one that wrote it, then you are ''inexcusably'' ignorant on the topic of Christianity, and will doubtlessly learn ''a lot'' from this article (if you don't read it, then it's only a matter of time before you get into an argument with someone who knows enough of the subject matter to ''eat you alive'').
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