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9th Dec '16 8:49:02 PM Mhazard
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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, while the ''Literature/BookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the historical fact the Romans back then [[FairForItsDay were indeed troubled by the problem of sexual immorality]], such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome same-sex concubines and prostitution]], but it never tells the people to hate gay people, it merely tells them to flee from sexual immorality.

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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, while the ''Literature/BookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the historical fact the Romans back then [[FairForItsDay were indeed troubled by the problem of sexual immorality]], such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome same-sex concubines and prostitution]], but it never ''never'' tells the people to hate gay people, it merely tells them to flee from sexual immorality.



** Actually, there were plenty of "witch burnings" in America... by the Indians, who did not need white men to tell them to be harsh on (accusations of) anti-social magic working.

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** Actually, there were plenty of "witch burnings" "[[BurnTheWitch witch burnings]]" in America... by the Indians, who did not need white men to tell them to be harsh on (accusations of) anti-social magic working.
9th Dec '16 8:46:39 PM Mhazard
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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, while the ''Literature/BookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the fact [[FairForItsDay the Romans back then were troubled by the problem of sexual immortality]], such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome same-sex concubines and prostitution]], but it never tells the people to hate gay people.

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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, while the ''Literature/BookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the historical fact [[FairForItsDay the Romans back then [[FairForItsDay were indeed troubled by the problem of sexual immortality]], immorality]], such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome same-sex concubines and prostitution]], but it never tells the people to hate gay people.people, it merely tells them to flee from sexual immorality.
9th Dec '16 8:45:07 PM Mhazard
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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, ''Literature/TheBookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the fact [[FairForItsDay the Romans back then were troubled by the problem of sexual immortality]], but it never tells the people to hate gay people.

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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, ''Literature/TheBookOfRomans'' while the ''Literature/BookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the fact [[FairForItsDay the Romans back then were troubled by the problem of sexual immortality]], such as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome same-sex concubines and prostitution]], but it never tells the people to hate gay people.
9th Dec '16 8:43:10 PM Mhazard
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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of.

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* God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of. To be precise, ''Literature/TheBookOfRomans'' condemns the act of homosexual sex, specifically, the act of men going against the nature of heterosexual marriage and having same-sex sexual acts as a form of adultery, and the fact [[FairForItsDay the Romans back then were troubled by the problem of sexual immortality]], but it never tells the people to hate gay people.
9th Dec '16 8:35:17 PM Mhazard
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* If you genuinely think that God is supposed to be a physical 6ft Caucasian human male with a stomach, bladder, and scrotum and who sits on a cloud within Earth's atmosphere,[[note]]To be fair, a handful do believe this, but they are strictly [[JackChick ''EXTREMELY'' Fundamentalist]][[/note]] that Jesus is held to be white, that anything more than a minority of Christians are Creationists OR homophobes OR sexists OR racists, that X thing being included or mentioned in the Bible in-and-of itself automatically means God condones it, or that the contents of Bible can be perfectly understood at face value despite the fact that we are a culture thousands of years and miles from the one that wrote it, then you are ''inexcusably'' ignorant on the topic of Christianity, and will doubtlessly learn ''a lot'' from this article (if you don't read it, then it's only a matter of time before you get into an argument with someone who knows enough of the subject matter to ''eat you alive'').

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* If you genuinely think that God is supposed to be a [[GrandpaGod physical 6ft Caucasian human male male]] with a stomach, bladder, and scrotum and who sits on a cloud within Earth's atmosphere,[[note]]To be fair, a handful do believe this, but they are strictly [[JackChick ''EXTREMELY'' Fundamentalist]][[/note]] that Jesus is held to be white, that anything more than a minority of Christians are Creationists OR homophobes OR sexists OR racists, that X thing being included or mentioned in the Bible in-and-of itself automatically means God condones it, or that the contents of Bible can be perfectly understood at face value despite the fact that we are a culture thousands of years and miles from the one that wrote it, then you are ''inexcusably'' ignorant on the topic of Christianity, and will doubtlessly learn ''a lot'' from this article (if you don't read it, then it's only a matter of time before you get into an argument with someone who knows enough of the subject matter to ''eat you alive'').
23rd Nov '16 8:15:37 PM skadooshbag
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* Even if Hitler ''had'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s been a Christian]], he also wore pants. Does that make wearing pants evil?

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* Even if Hitler ''had'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s been a Christian]], [[HitlerAteSugar he also wore pants. Does that make wearing pants evil?evil?]]
23rd Nov '16 7:45:03 PM skadooshbag
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*Even if Hitler ''had'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJVQVaGtERE&t=31s been a Christian]], he also wore pants. Does that make wearing pants evil?
23rd Nov '16 7:40:15 PM skadooshbag
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*Baptists have a habit of being fundamentalists, but this is purely a result of the denomination's particular clerical hierarchy. Or more specifically, it's lack of one. The pastor is as high as it goes, so each Baptist church is independent of all the others. The sole unifying factor is the belief that baptism should not be performed on infants, but on adults who have made the ''conscious decision'' to come to Christ; as long as you believe that, you can believe anything else (that's not an outright heresy) and still call yourself a Baptist. The reason The lack of Hierarchy results in fundamentalism is because there's nobody above the pastor to correct them using their superior scholarship.
23rd Nov '16 7:29:23 PM skadooshbag
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*If you genuinely think that God is supposed to be a physical 6ft Caucasian human male with a stomach, bladder, and scrotum and who sits on a cloud within Earth's atmosphere,[[note]]To be fair, a handful do believe this, but they are strictly [[JackChick ''EXTREMELY'' Fundamentalist]][[/note]] that Jesus is held to be white, that anything more than a minority of Christians are Creationists OR homophobes OR sexists OR racists, that X thing being included or mentioned in the Bible in-and-of itself automatically means God condones it, or that the contents of Bible can be perfectly understood at face value despite the fact that we are a culture thousands of years and miles from the one that wrote it, then you are ''inexcusably'' ignorant on the topic of Christianity, and will doubtlessly learn ''a lot'' from this article (if you don't read it, then it's only a matter of time before you get into an argument with someone who knows enough of the subject matter to ''eat you alive'').


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*God does not hate ''anyone'' let alone gay people. The Westboro Baptists are literally the ''only'' Christians to claim otherwise (aside from the occasional person who never bothered to learn anything about the religion they think they follow and who also happens to be a bigot). Any other fundie will finish their rant, no matter how loud and angry, with "but remember, hate the sin, love the sinner." In fact, Not only are there absolutely plenty of Christians who don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage at all and who have the scholarly exegesis to back it up, but the majority of people against gay marriage aren't even fundamentalist and have no hatred in their hearts at all, any more than you would for a child or sibling who was throwing their life away in some manner. There are few things you could tell them about being gay that they won't already be aware of.
23rd Nov '16 6:31:57 PM skadooshbag
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* {{UsefulNotes/Islam}} [[AcceptableTargets gets it particularly bad]]. Most Westerners don't know anything about the religion and its beliefs, let alone that [[NotSoDifferent Muslims hold Jesus and Mary in high esteem]], or that [[NeverHurtAnInnocent killing civilians is strictly forbidden under Islamic law]][[Note]]In fact, there's a heck of a lot of stuff the Koran forbids but that Alquaeda and ISIS do anyway, although this is actually simply because most people in the middle east are illiterate.[[/note]]. [[OlderThanPrint This isn't a new thing either]]: in medieval Europe there was a widespread belief that Islam was a pagan desert cult centered around the worship of Muhammad[[note]]Muslims do not ever worship Muhammad or anyone but Allah (God). This is SeriousBusiness[[/note]] and its followers were called "Mohammedans" for this reason. Even today, most Westerners who criticize Islam on the grounds of its being misogynist, violent, and reactionary etc. have doubtless never read the entire Qur'an.

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* {{UsefulNotes/Islam}} [[AcceptableTargets gets it particularly bad]]. Most Westerners don't know anything about the religion and its beliefs, let alone that [[NotSoDifferent Muslims hold Jesus and Mary in high esteem]], or that [[NeverHurtAnInnocent killing civilians is strictly forbidden under Islamic law]][[Note]]In law]]. [[Note]] In fact, there's a heck of a lot of stuff the Koran forbids but that Alquaeda and ISIS do anyway, although this is actually simply because most people in the middle east are illiterate.[[/note]]. [[/note]] [[OlderThanPrint This isn't a new thing either]]: in medieval Europe there was a widespread belief that Islam was a pagan desert cult centered around the worship of Muhammad[[note]]Muslims do not ever worship Muhammad or anyone but Allah (God). This is SeriousBusiness[[/note]] and its followers were called "Mohammedans" for this reason. Even today, most Westerners who criticize Islam on the grounds of its being misogynist, violent, and reactionary etc. have doubtless never read the entire Qur'an.
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