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8th Mar '18 6:25:13 AM LondonKdS
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*** However, the most attention-grabbing thing involving this conspiracy is that the US Government ''did'' find GM (among other auto companies) guilty of forming a monopoly, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy#Conviction.2C_.241_fine slapping them with a ridiculously tiny fine]]. The reaction from Bradford C. Snell, an anti-trust attorney who testified in the case, sums it up best.

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*** However, the most attention-grabbing thing involving this conspiracy is that the US Government ''did'' find GM (among other auto companies) guilty of forming a monopoly, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy#Conviction.2C_.241_fine slapping them with a ridiculously tiny fine]]. (Although the alleged cartel was on the '''sale of buses''' and spare parts for them to transportation companies, not in transportation companies themselves.) The reaction from Bradford C. Snell, an anti-trust attorney who testified in the case, sums it up best.
1st Mar '18 11:39:05 AM N.Harmonik
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* Twenty-seven years later, it has finally emerged that the Hillsborough stadium disaster of 1989 (in which 96 people died in a crush at a football stadium in Sheffield, England) was in fact due to incompetent handling by the West Yorkshire Police. Police, politicians and national newspapers colluded to hide the truth and transfer the blame to the visiting Liverpool fans, who were described as drunken criminal thugs and other slanders. The fact the secret was kept for so long is blamed largely on a culture of ''omerta'' among British policemen which makes the Mafia look loose-lipped blabbermouths by comparison. Even policemen who were honest, blameless and who had no part in the bad decision-making felt intimidated into silence by the dominant culture of their service even if they were privately horrified by the event. Add in [[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers a red-top press]] keen to label all football fans as criminal scum, and what was then a [[UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher Thatcher government]] with no love for the working classes and a perceived need to support the police right or wrong, and you get that rare thing - a conspiracy that worked where nobody broke ranks. Until the inquest came along - 27 years after the event. An independent panel in 2012 concluded that there had been a "strenuous attempt" to deflect blame for the disaster away from the emergency services and onto Liverpool supporters, including editing 164 eyewitness statements to remove references to the police's failures and the fabrication of stories about fans rushing the gates and attacking police.

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* Twenty-seven years later, it has finally emerged that the Hillsborough stadium disaster of 1989 (in which 96 people died in a crush at a football stadium in Sheffield, England) was in fact due to incompetent handling by the West Yorkshire Police. Police, politicians and national newspapers colluded to hide the truth and transfer the blame to the visiting Liverpool fans, who were described as drunken criminal thugs and other slanders. The fact the secret was kept for so long is blamed largely on a culture of ''omerta'' among British policemen which makes the Mafia look like loose-lipped blabbermouths by comparison. Even policemen who were honest, blameless and who had no part in the bad decision-making felt intimidated into silence by the dominant culture of their service even if they were privately horrified by the event. Add in [[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers a red-top press]] keen to label all football fans as criminal scum, and what was then a [[UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher Thatcher government]] with no love for the working classes and a perceived need to support the police right or wrong, and you get that rare thing - a conspiracy that worked where nobody broke ranks. Until the inquest came along - 27 years after the event. An independent panel in 2012 concluded that there had been a "strenuous attempt" to deflect blame for the disaster away from the emergency services and onto Liverpool supporters, including editing 164 eyewitness statements to remove references to the police's failures and the fabrication of stories about fans rushing the gates and attacking police.
24th Feb '18 10:57:51 AM nombretomado
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* The most infamous and horrific example would likely be UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, the massive genocide committed by UsefulNotes/NaziGermany against six million Jews and at least five million other people considered "undesirable" ({{Romani}}, sexual minorities, political prisoners, people with various disabilities, et cetera). Furthermore, it was committed in secret -- until the death camps were finally liberated and the classified files discovered, ThoseWackyNazis' official line was that the victims were merely being [[ReleasedToElsewhere "relocated"]], and [[EmpireWithADarkSecret many Germans were none the wiser]] (preferring to turn a blind eye to the ElephantInTheLivingRoom) -- though others suspected it even then. Unlike other conspiracy theories, whose ''believers'' are considered crazy, people who ''deny'' the Holocaust are almost universally agreed to be on the crazy side of this issue, and with good reason. The evidence that it happened is absolutely overwhelming, the evidence that it ''didn't'' happen is bogus, virtually all historians and other sane people acknowledge that it happened, and the people who don't are usually anti-Semites. This gives the deniers the odd combination of saying "It didn't happen, but wouldn't it be great if it did?"

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* The most infamous and horrific example would likely be UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, the massive genocide committed by UsefulNotes/NaziGermany against six million Jews and at least five million other people considered "undesirable" ({{Romani}}, (UsefulNotes/{{Romani}}, sexual minorities, political prisoners, people with various disabilities, et cetera). Furthermore, it was committed in secret -- until the death camps were finally liberated and the classified files discovered, ThoseWackyNazis' official line was that the victims were merely being [[ReleasedToElsewhere "relocated"]], and [[EmpireWithADarkSecret many Germans were none the wiser]] (preferring to turn a blind eye to the ElephantInTheLivingRoom) -- though others suspected it even then. Unlike other conspiracy theories, whose ''believers'' are considered crazy, people who ''deny'' the Holocaust are almost universally agreed to be on the crazy side of this issue, and with good reason. The evidence that it happened is absolutely overwhelming, the evidence that it ''didn't'' happen is bogus, virtually all historians and other sane people acknowledge that it happened, and the people who don't are usually anti-Semites. This gives the deniers the odd combination of saying "It didn't happen, but wouldn't it be great if it did?"
18th Jan '18 1:04:11 PM HighCrate
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* The quiz show scandals of TheFifties, in which it was revealed that many of the hit {{game show}}s on American television (most notably ''Series/TwentyOne'') were being [[ExecutiveMeddling rigged]] by the {{networks}} in order to increase tension for viewing audiences. Game shows wound up being DeaderThanDisco for nearly twenty years as a result of these scandals. It's also the reason some ''Series/AmericanIdol'' viewers think there's something fishy going on with the voting.

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* The quiz show scandals of TheFifties, in which it was revealed that many of the hit {{game show}}s on American television (most notably ''Series/TwentyOne'') were being [[ExecutiveMeddling rigged]] by the {{networks}} in order to increase tension for viewing audiences. Game shows wound up being DeaderThanDisco [[PopularityPolynomial out of fashion]] for nearly twenty years as a result of these scandals. It's also the reason some ''Series/AmericanIdol'' viewers think there's something fishy going on with the voting.
29th Dec '17 10:05:23 AM AndIntroducingALeg
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* The UsefulNotes{{Finland}} conspiracy theory is a joke that seems to have got out of hand, although it seems that more people think it needs serious debunking than actually believe it: it was originally a guy telling a story about his parents making a joke on his childhood credulity. The story is that Russia and Japan colluded to create a fictitious country in what is actually a region of open sea. Japan got exclusive fishing rights, and the Trans-Siberian railway was built to send the fish back to Japan in disguised "Nokia" containers, apart from the fish that Russia gets to keep as its side of the deal. The Finns actually live in an eastern region of Sweden which also contains Helsinki, and the lights visible from Estonia are from Japanese fishing trawlers. It is of course called "Finland" because fish have fins (no, really). Quite why the rest of the world goes along with this is anybody's guess.

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* The UsefulNotes{{Finland}} UsefulNotes/{{Finland}} conspiracy theory is a joke that seems to have got out of hand, although it seems that more people think it needs serious debunking than actually believe it: it was originally a guy telling a story about his parents making a joke on his childhood credulity. The story is that Russia and Japan colluded to create a fictitious country in what is actually a region of open sea. Japan got exclusive fishing rights, and the Trans-Siberian railway was built to send the fish back to Japan in disguised "Nokia" containers, apart from the fish that Russia gets to keep as its side of the deal. The Finns actually live in an eastern region of Sweden which also contains Helsinki, and the lights visible from Estonia are from Japanese fishing trawlers. It is of course called "Finland" because fish have fins (no, really). Quite why the rest of the world goes along with this is anybody's guess.
29th Dec '17 10:03:13 AM AndIntroducingALeg
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* The UsefulNotes{{Finland}} conspiracy theory is a joke that seems to have got out of hand, although it seems that more people think it needs serious debunking than actually believe it: it was originally a guy telling a story about his parents making a joke on his childhood credulity. The story is that Russia and Japan colluded to create a fictitious country in what is actually a region of open sea. Japan got exclusive fishing rights, and the Trans-Siberian railway was built to send the fish back to Japan in disguised "Nokia" containers, apart from the fish that Russia gets to keep as its side of the deal. The Finns actually live in an eastern region of Sweden which also contains Helsinki, and the lights visible from Estonia are from Japanese fishing trawlers. It is of course called "Finland" because fish have fins (no, really). Quite why the rest of the world goes along with this is anybody's guess.
10th Nov '17 1:36:37 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* The most infamous and horrific example would likely be UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, the massive genocide committed by UsefulNotes/NaziGermany against six million Jews and at least five million other people considered "undesirable" ({{Romani}}, sexual minorities, political prisoners, people with various disabilities, et cetera). Furthermore, it was committed in secret -- until the death camps were finally liberated and the classified files discovered, ThoseWackyNazis' official line was that the victims were merely being [[ReleasedToElsewhere "relocated"]], and [[EmpireWithADarkSecret many Germans were none the wiser]] (generally preferring to turn a blind eye to the ElephantInTheLivingRoom) -- though others suspected it even then. Unlike other conspiracy theories, whose ''believers'' are considered crazy, people who ''deny'' the Holocaust are almost universally agreed to be on the crazy side of this issue, and with good reason. The evidence that it happened is absolutely overwhelming, the evidence that it ''didn't'' happen is bogus, virtually all historians and other sane people acknowledge that it happened, and the people who don't are usually anti-Semites. This gives the deniers the odd combination of saying "It didn't happen, but wouldn't it be great if it did?"

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* The most infamous and horrific example would likely be UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, the massive genocide committed by UsefulNotes/NaziGermany against six million Jews and at least five million other people considered "undesirable" ({{Romani}}, sexual minorities, political prisoners, people with various disabilities, et cetera). Furthermore, it was committed in secret -- until the death camps were finally liberated and the classified files discovered, ThoseWackyNazis' official line was that the victims were merely being [[ReleasedToElsewhere "relocated"]], and [[EmpireWithADarkSecret many Germans were none the wiser]] (generally preferring (preferring to turn a blind eye to the ElephantInTheLivingRoom) -- though others suspected it even then. Unlike other conspiracy theories, whose ''believers'' are considered crazy, people who ''deny'' the Holocaust are almost universally agreed to be on the crazy side of this issue, and with good reason. The evidence that it happened is absolutely overwhelming, the evidence that it ''didn't'' happen is bogus, virtually all historians and other sane people acknowledge that it happened, and the people who don't are usually anti-Semites. This gives the deniers the odd combination of saying "It didn't happen, but wouldn't it be great if it did?"
10th Nov '17 1:36:02 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* The most infamous and horrific example would likely be UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, the massive genocide committed by UsefulNotes/NaziGermany against six million Jews and at least five million other people considered "undesirable" ({{Romani}}, sexual minorities, political prisoners, people with various disabilities, et cetera). Furthermore, it was committed in secret -- until the death camps were finally liberated and the Nazis' classified files discovered, nobody knew what was going on, with the Nazis' official line being that the victims were merely being [[ReleasedToElsewhere "relocated"]] and [[EmpireWithADarkSecret many Germans none the wiser]] (though many others suspected it even then but preferred to turn a blind eye to the ElephantInTheLivingRoom). Unlike other conspiracy theories, whose ''believers'' are considered crazy, people who ''deny'' the Holocaust are almost universally agreed to be on the crazy side of this issue, and with good reason. The evidence that it happened is absolutely overwhelming, the evidence that it ''didn't'' happen is bogus, virtually all historians and other sane people acknowledge that it happened, and the people who don't are usually anti-Semites. This gives the deniers the odd combination of saying "It didn't happen, but wouldn't it be great if it did?"

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* The most infamous and horrific example would likely be UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, the massive genocide committed by UsefulNotes/NaziGermany against six million Jews and at least five million other people considered "undesirable" ({{Romani}}, sexual minorities, political prisoners, people with various disabilities, et cetera). Furthermore, it was committed in secret -- until the death camps were finally liberated and the Nazis' classified files discovered, nobody knew what was going on, with the Nazis' ThoseWackyNazis' official line being was that the victims were merely being [[ReleasedToElsewhere "relocated"]] "relocated"]], and [[EmpireWithADarkSecret many Germans were none the wiser]] (though many others suspected it even then but preferred (generally preferring to turn a blind eye to the ElephantInTheLivingRoom).ElephantInTheLivingRoom) -- though others suspected it even then. Unlike other conspiracy theories, whose ''believers'' are considered crazy, people who ''deny'' the Holocaust are almost universally agreed to be on the crazy side of this issue, and with good reason. The evidence that it happened is absolutely overwhelming, the evidence that it ''didn't'' happen is bogus, virtually all historians and other sane people acknowledge that it happened, and the people who don't are usually anti-Semites. This gives the deniers the odd combination of saying "It didn't happen, but wouldn't it be great if it did?"
29th Oct '17 12:45:21 PM nombretomado
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* In UsefulNotes/{{Utah}}, there is a minority but [[SeriousBusiness bitterly]] [[VocalMinority vocal]] theory that democracy -- ''[[InsaneTrollLogic all]]'' [[InsaneTrollLogic democracy]] -- is the work of DirtyCommies trying to establish Marxist regimes. The solution? Oppose democracy and promote a ''[[BetterByADifferentName republic]]''[[note]]Never mind the fact that the United States of America ''is'' a republic[[/note]]. This is believed to be rooted in Utah being so staunchly hard-conservative in culture and politics, and any word starting with "democra"- is anathema, and words beginning with "republic-" [[NewSpeak are preferred]]. The irony is that the majority Mormon culture had traditionally practiced a form of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism Christian socialism]] called the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order United Order]], which is still manifested in institutions like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Family_Services LDS Family Services]] (formerly called LDS Social Services), the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop%27s_storehouse Bishop's storehouse]], etc. There was a tectonic [[ValuesDissonance cultural shift]] during the UsefulNotes/ColdWar / RedScare when Mormons were suspected of being [[AcceptablePoliticalTargets socialist sympathizers]], so Mormon culture came to retroactively deny all socialism or the association of the United Order as socialist in nature. (In fairness, the United Order had no direct relation to Marxism under the common umbrella of socialism, and the United Order actually [[OlderThanTheyThink predated Marxism]].) With the continual rightward shift since Utah became a predominantly Republican state in the CivilRightsMovement (and now one of the most solidly red states in the United States), ''democracy itself'' has also increasingly been seen as a conspiracy by DirtyCommies to spread Marxism. While still a minority view, it has become notable enough to make [[http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogschalkboard/50771956-57/democracy-district-alpine-bromley.html.csp repeat]] [[http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51130453-78/state-education-board-control.html.csp news]] [[http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51186884-76/bill-committee-democracy-government.html.csp reports]] in local publications like the ''Salt Lake Tribune'', and even a national mention or two in publications like ''The Week'' (in their "Only [[{{Eagleland}} in America]]" section).

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* In UsefulNotes/{{Utah}}, there is a minority but [[SeriousBusiness bitterly]] [[VocalMinority vocal]] theory that democracy -- ''[[InsaneTrollLogic all]]'' [[InsaneTrollLogic democracy]] -- is the work of DirtyCommies trying to establish Marxist regimes. The solution? Oppose democracy and promote a ''[[BetterByADifferentName republic]]''[[note]]Never mind the fact that the United States of America ''is'' a republic[[/note]]. This is believed to be rooted in Utah being so staunchly hard-conservative in culture and politics, and any word starting with "democra"- is anathema, and words beginning with "republic-" [[NewSpeak are preferred]]. The irony is that the majority Mormon culture had traditionally practiced a form of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism Christian socialism]] called the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order United Order]], which is still manifested in institutions like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Family_Services LDS Family Services]] (formerly called LDS Social Services), the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop%27s_storehouse Bishop's storehouse]], etc. There was a tectonic [[ValuesDissonance cultural shift]] during the UsefulNotes/ColdWar / RedScare when Mormons were suspected of being [[AcceptablePoliticalTargets socialist sympathizers]], so Mormon culture came to retroactively deny all socialism or the association of the United Order as socialist in nature. (In fairness, the United Order had no direct relation to Marxism under the common umbrella of socialism, and the United Order actually [[OlderThanTheyThink predated Marxism]].) With the continual rightward shift since Utah became a predominantly Republican state in the CivilRightsMovement UsefulNotes/CivilRightsMovement (and now one of the most solidly red states in the United States), ''democracy itself'' has also increasingly been seen as a conspiracy by DirtyCommies to spread Marxism. While still a minority view, it has become notable enough to make [[http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogschalkboard/50771956-57/democracy-district-alpine-bromley.html.csp repeat]] [[http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51130453-78/state-education-board-control.html.csp news]] [[http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51186884-76/bill-committee-democracy-government.html.csp reports]] in local publications like the ''Salt Lake Tribune'', and even a national mention or two in publications like ''The Week'' (in their "Only [[{{Eagleland}} in America]]" section).
27th Oct '17 7:14:22 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals Lockheed bribery scandals]] came about when U.S. Senator Frank Church began a subcommittee investigation into the possible misappropriation of bailout money. What they uncovered was a bribery scandal implicating key political leaders of The Netherlands, Japan, West Germany, Italy and Saudi Arabia. It included such varied characters as Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka and right-wing underworld figure Yoshio Kodama, Prince-consort Bernhard of the Netherlands, then-Italian President Giovanni Leone and West German Minister of Defense Franz Josef Strauss. The goal of the bribing was to persuade these nations to purchase Lockheed aircraft, especially the F-104 Starfighter, which had gained a reputation as unsafe. The aftermath resulted in many of the political figures resigning from their posts, Tanaka ended up jailed and Lockheed nearly went out of business. The weirdest part of this whole scandal was when Mitsuyasu Maeno, a ''roman porno'' actor rammed his plane into Kodama's home in an attempted SuicideAttack. Maeno died, but the attack failed.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals Lockheed bribery scandals]] came about when U.S. Senator Frank Church began a subcommittee investigation into the possible misappropriation of bailout money. [[MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot What they uncovered was a bribery scandal implicating key political leaders of The Netherlands, Japan, West Germany, Italy and Saudi Arabia.Arabia]]. It included such varied characters as Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka and right-wing underworld figure Yoshio Kodama, Prince-consort Bernhard of the Netherlands, then-Italian President Giovanni Leone and West German Minister of Defense Franz Josef Strauss. The goal of the bribing was to persuade these nations to purchase Lockheed aircraft, especially the F-104 Starfighter, which had gained a reputation as unsafe. The aftermath resulted in many of the political figures resigning from their posts, Tanaka ended up jailed and Lockheed nearly went out of business. The weirdest part of this whole scandal was when Mitsuyasu Maeno, a ''roman porno'' actor rammed his plane into Kodama's home in an attempted SuicideAttack. Maeno died, but the attack failed.
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