History Comicbook / Watchmen

25th May '16 6:38:35 AM jake38
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* TheBadGuyWins: If you consider Ozymandias the bad guy after all.

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* TheBadGuyWins: [[GrayandGrayMorality If you consider Ozymandias the bad guy after all.]]



* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: Rorschach claims that BlackAndWhiteMorality is his moral outlook on life, symbolized by his mask which contains both black and white fluids that never mix into gray. [[spoiler: His [[FamousLastWords last words]] to Dan are "Never compromise. Even in the face of Armageddon, never compromise."]]

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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: Rorschach claims that BlackAndWhiteMorality is his moral outlook on life, symbolized by his mask which contains both black and white fluids that never mix into gray. [[spoiler: His [[FamousLastWords last words]] to Dan are "Never compromise. Even in the face of Armageddon, never compromise."]]"
25th May '16 6:36:02 AM jake38
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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: Rorschach claims that BlackAndWhiteMorality is his moral outlook on life, symbolized by his mask which contains both black and white fluids that never mix into gray. His last words to Dan are "Never compromise. Even in the face of Armageddon, never compromise."

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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: Rorschach claims that BlackAndWhiteMorality is his moral outlook on life, symbolized by his mask which contains both black and white fluids that never mix into gray. [[spoiler: His [[FamousLastWords last words words]] to Dan are "Never compromise. Even in the face of Armageddon, never compromise.""]]
25th May '16 6:33:37 AM jake38
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* AStormIsComing: chapter ten's usage of the last lines of ''All Along The Watchtower'' by Music/BobDylan.

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* AStormIsComing: chapter Chapter ten's usage of the last lines of ''All Along The Watchtower'' by Music/BobDylan.
25th May '16 6:31:35 AM jake38
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** Excessive use of purple pyramid imagery (easily confused with a pink triangle in the comic) is a purposeful visual reinforcement of Veidt's homosexuality. Because Moore and Gibbons chose their visual aspects very carefully, this is a subtle hint that really takes the "ambiguous" out of this trope, at least for Veidt.
*** ''Before Watchmen'' throws these aesthetics and cues out the window and shows Veidt in a romantic and sexual relationship with a woman and is implied to be in another one later on, though early in story it is implied that he had sex with at least one man during his travels in Tibet, so they may have been going for bisexual rather than heterosexual. It should also be noted that Before Watchmen was written by a different author than Watchmen and so should not be used to make inferences about the intentions employed in the original story.
23rd May '16 7:49:05 PM KingClark
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* AlliterativeName: '''D'''aniel "Nite Owl" '''D'''reiberg. The Silk Spectre(s). Wally Weaver, Bill Benjamin Brady (although his first name is actually William). Also the new presidential candidate, film star R[[spoiler:obert]] R[[spoiler:edford]].

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* AlliterativeName: '''D'''aniel "Nite Owl" '''D'''reiberg. The Silk Spectre(s). Wally Weaver, Bill Benjamin Brady (although his first name is actually William). Also the new presidential candidate, film star R[[spoiler:obert]] R[[spoiler:edford]].Robert Redford.



** Decostructed. Most of the Minutemen. Despite their good intentions, the members included bigots, glory hounds and even an attempted rapist.

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** Decostructed.Deconstructed. Most of the Minutemen. Despite their good intentions, the members included bigots, glory hounds and even an attempted rapist.



* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: A few instances. Richard Nixon himself is ''still'' President in 1985, having managed to win the Vietnam War and avoid the Watergate Scandal. Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein are dead, and their names have long since been lost to history. And in the last chapter, we learn that the former actor R[[spoiler:obert]] R[[spoiler:edford]] is a Democratic presidential candidate.

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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: A few instances. Richard Nixon himself is ''still'' President in 1985, having managed to win the Vietnam War and avoid the Watergate Scandal. Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein are dead, and their names have long since been lost to history. And in the last chapter, we learn that the former actor R[[spoiler:obert]] R[[spoiler:edford]] Robert Redford is a Democratic presidential candidate.



** Rorschach's declaration that "I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands around it" is virtually identical to a quote from SerialKiller[=/=][[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Rapist]] Carl Panzram on the day of his execution. The only differences are that Panzram said "neck" and was talking about "the entire human race."

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** Rorschach's declaration that "I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands around it" is virtually identical to a quote from SerialKiller[=/=][[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Rapist]] Carl Panzram on the day of his execution. The only differences are that Panzram said "neck" and was talking about "the entire human race."race".



** There's a very clever one in ''Fearful Symmetry''. The pirate-themed Rum Runner sign has two [[TheBackwardsR Rs back to back]] so they resemble a skull. It fits the symmetry theme, but there's another thing you might not have noticed unless you can read Cyrillic: [[spoiler:the sign says [[TalkLikeAPirate Yar]]!]]

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** There's a very clever one in ''Fearful Symmetry''. The pirate-themed Rum Runner sign has two [[TheBackwardsR Rs back to back]] so they resemble a skull. It fits the symmetry theme, but there's another thing you might not have noticed unless you can read Cyrillic: [[spoiler:the the sign says [[TalkLikeAPirate Yar]]!]]Yar]]!
23rd May '16 1:31:59 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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**Rorschach's declaration that "I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands around it" is virtually identical to a quote from SerialKiller[=/=][[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Rapist]] Carl Panzram on the day of his execution. The only differences are that Panzram said "neck" and was talking about "the entire human race."
21st May '16 10:55:57 AM KingClark
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* BittersweetEnding: Ozymandias achieves world peace, but at the cost of the lives of Rorschach and the population of New York.

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* BittersweetEnding: Ozymandias achieves world peace, but at the cost of the lives of Rorschach and much of the population of New York.York. And then there's [[HappyEndingOverride the lingering implication]] that it's all about to come crashing down.



* IvyLeagueForEveryone

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* %%* IvyLeagueForEveryone



** Rorschach, on several occasions, and at one point taking this trope to its literal logical extreme. The Comedian has his moments too, particularly nearly raping Sally Jupiter and shooting his own would-be AsianBabyMama.

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** Rorschach, on several occasions, and at one point taking this trope to its literal logical extreme. extreme.
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The Comedian has his moments too, particularly nearly raping Sally Jupiter and shooting his own would-be AsianBabyMama.



* {{Soaperizing}}

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* %%* {{Soaperizing}}



* StealthPun: Fits in nicely with FridgeBrilliance: Jon, an aspiring watchmaker who was told to forgo the business due to the atomic bomb, has the accident that leads to his PhysicalGod status because his first girlfriend's '''watch''' was ''stepped on'' by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_man a fat man.]]

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* StealthPun: StealthPun:
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Fits in nicely with FridgeBrilliance: Jon, an aspiring watchmaker who was told to forgo the business due to the atomic bomb, has the accident that leads to his PhysicalGod status because his first girlfriend's '''watch''' was ''stepped on'' by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_man a fat man.]]man]].



* StopWorshippingMe: Dr. Manhattan is powerful enough to be considered divine, but resents being perceived this way. He says something like "I don't think there is a god, and if there is he's probably nothing like me".

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* StealthSequel: Oddly enough, one to the mainstream [[Franchise/TheDCU DC Universe]]; specifically, the ''ComicBook/TheNew52''. It was revealed by a major {{retcon}} from ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' that DC's entire post-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' setting was the result of Doctor Manhattan creating life in another galaxy. It should be noted, however, that ''Watchmen'' characters will not be interacting with the setting beyond this capacity.
* StopWorshippingMe: Dr. Manhattan is powerful enough to be considered divine, but resents being perceived this way. He says something like "I don't think there is a god, God, and if there is he's probably nothing I don't think I'm anything like me".Him".
5th May '16 2:10:02 PM aye_amber
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* AStormIsComing: chapter ten's usage of the last lines of ''All Along The Watchtower'' by BobDylan.

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* AStormIsComing: chapter ten's usage of the last lines of ''All Along The Watchtower'' by BobDylan.Music/BobDylan.
29th Apr '16 7:47:36 AM Solle
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''Watchmen'' is a twelve-issue MiniSeries (September, 1986-October, 1987) about an alternate reality where incognito vigilantes -- inspired by a number of successful pulp style mystery-men -- became a real event until the government outlawed it ([[SuperRegistrationAct the Keene Act]]); one actual superhero with real powers actually exists, due to a FreakLabAccident, and helped the US win the VietnamWar. One of the "masks" -- Edward "The Comedian" Blake, also a former American Black Ops technician -- has just been murdered, and the mystery behind his death (who killed him, and for what purpose) drives the series from murder mystery to SuperHero {{Deconstruction}} to the revelation of a one-man GovernmentConspiracy.


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''Watchmen'' is a twelve-issue MiniSeries (September, 1986-October, 1987) about an alternate reality where incognito vigilantes -- inspired by a number of successful pulp style mystery-men -- became a real event until the government outlawed it ([[SuperRegistrationAct the Keene Act]]); one actual superhero with real powers actually exists, due to a FreakLabAccident, and helped the US win the VietnamWar. One of the "masks" -- Edward "The Comedian" Blake, also a former American Black Ops technician -- has just been murdered, and the mystery behind his death (who killed him, and for what purpose) drives the series from murder mystery to SuperHero {{Deconstruction}} to the revelation of a one-man GovernmentConspiracy.

{{Deconstruction}}.



There's also a prequel game, ''Watchmen: The End is Nigh'', and a prequel series titled ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' that was released in 2012 [[LooseCanon and does not involve Alan Moore or Dave Gibbons]]. Both Moore and Gibbons[[note]]"As far as I'm concerned, what Alan and I did was the Watchmen graphic novel and a couple of illustrations that came out at the same time. Everything else - the movie, the game, the prequels - are really not canon. They're subsidiary. They're not really Watchmen.They're just something different."[[/note]] insist that the original Graphic Novel is the only real canon for the story, which they consider a one-off.

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There's also a prequel game, ''Watchmen: The End is Nigh'', and a prequel series titled ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' that was released in 2012 [[LooseCanon and does not involve Alan Moore or Dave Gibbons]]. Both Moore and Gibbons[[note]]"As far as I'm concerned, what Alan and I did was the Watchmen graphic novel and a couple of illustrations that came out at the same time. Everything else - the movie, the game, the prequels - are really not canon. They're subsidiary. They're not really Watchmen.They're just something different."[[/note]] Gibbons insist that the original Graphic Novel is the only real canon for the story, which they consider a one-off.
29th Apr '16 7:46:32 AM Solle
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''Watchmen'', is a twelve-issue MiniSeries (September, 1986-October, 1987) about an alternate reality where incognito vigilantes -- inspired by a number of successful pulp style mystery-men -- became a real event until the government outlawed it ([[SuperRegistrationAct the Keene Act]]); one actual superhero with real powers actually exists, due to a FreakLabAccident, and helped the US win the VietnamWar. One of the "masks" -- Edward "The Comedian" Blake, also a former American Black Ops technician -- has just been murdered, and the mystery behind his death (who killed him, and for what purpose) drives the series from murder mystery to SuperHero {{Deconstruction}} to the revelation of a one-man GovernmentConspiracy.


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''Watchmen'', ''Watchmen'' is a twelve-issue MiniSeries (September, 1986-October, 1987) about an alternate reality where incognito vigilantes -- inspired by a number of successful pulp style mystery-men -- became a real event until the government outlawed it ([[SuperRegistrationAct the Keene Act]]); one actual superhero with real powers actually exists, due to a FreakLabAccident, and helped the US win the VietnamWar. One of the "masks" -- Edward "The Comedian" Blake, also a former American Black Ops technician -- has just been murdered, and the mystery behind his death (who killed him, and for what purpose) drives the series from murder mystery to SuperHero {{Deconstruction}} to the revelation of a one-man GovernmentConspiracy.

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