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* HomophobicHateCrime: In the {{backstory}}, Watchmen member Silhouette was outed as lesbian and thrown out of the group (which apparently ran on a version of "don't ask, don't tell", as at least two other members were [[OpenSecret believed to be gay but nobody said anything]]), then murdered along with her lover for being gay. This is briefly shown in [[Film/{{Watchmen}} the film's]] opening montage.
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The plot of ''Watchmen'' begins with the murder of Edward "The Comedian" Blake, a former member of both the Minutemen and who also served as a American Black Ops technician in the Vietnam War. Rorschach begins to suspect that someone deliberately targeted Blake for his superhero past, and proceeds to warn his former acquaintances - Dan Dreiberg (Nite Owl II), Laurie Juspeczyk (Silk Spectre II), Dr. Manhattan, and Ozymandias - of a potential new threat. But this return from the past is only the start of a bigger mystery, one that will entangle the lives of the heroes with that of several other residents in New York City.

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The plot of ''Watchmen'' begins with the murder of Edward "The Comedian" Blake, a former member of both the Minutemen and who also served as a American Black Ops technician in the Vietnam War. Rorschach begins to suspect that someone deliberately targeted Blake for his superhero past, and proceeds to warn his former acquaintances - -- Dan Dreiberg (Nite Owl II), Laurie Juspeczyk (Silk Spectre II), Dr. Manhattan, and Ozymandias - -- of a potential new threat. But this return from the past is only the start of a bigger mystery, one that will entangle the lives of the heroes with that of several other residents in New York City.



* AmbiguousDisorder: Rorschach exhibits weird eating habits, unusual syntax, dislike of physical contact (except for when he shakes Dan's hand - instead, he holds on for so long it becomes awkward), and obsessive focus.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Rorschach exhibits weird eating habits, unusual syntax, dislike of physical contact (except for when he shakes Dan's hand - -- instead, he holds on for so long it becomes awkward), and obsessive focus.



** Rorschach's prison analyst is a straighter example. Over the course of just four days, Malcolm Long's most famous patient succeeds in driving the good doctor over the DespairEventHorizon, effectively ruining his home life and previous optimism. The next time we see him, Malcolm's the first person to try breaking up a brawl right before Ozymandias' creature strikes New York, saying to his estranged wife that he has to help - because helping others is really the only thing that matters.

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** Rorschach's prison analyst is a straighter example. Over the course of just four days, Malcolm Long's most famous patient succeeds in driving the good doctor over the DespairEventHorizon, effectively ruining his home life and previous optimism. The next time we see him, Malcolm's the first person to try breaking up a brawl right before Ozymandias' creature strikes New York, saying to his estranged wife that he has to help - -- because helping others is really the only thing that matters.



* AnyoneCanDie: Outside the second-generation hero group, the only named characters to survive are Silk Spectre I, Mothman (although he is in a sanitarium), the editor and assistant at the ''New Frontiersman'' office, and ''maybe'' Rorschach's landlady and her kids - depending on where they lived. Often, the deaths are right at their subjective moments of triumph, particularly at the newspaper stand at the end. And that doesn't even count the deaths of The Comedian and Rorschach.

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* AnyoneCanDie: Outside the second-generation hero group, the only named characters to survive are Silk Spectre I, Mothman (although he is in a sanitarium), the editor and assistant at the ''New Frontiersman'' office, and ''maybe'' Rorschach's landlady and her kids - -- depending on where they lived. Often, the deaths are right at their subjective moments of triumph, particularly at the newspaper stand at the end. And that doesn't even count the deaths of The Comedian and Rorschach.



** A smiley face - the Comedian's emblem.

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** A smiley face - -- the Comedian's emblem.



** Some of the Minutemen are also {{Captain Ersatz}}es for non-Charlton superheroes. Mothman, Comedian, Hooded Justice, Silhouette, and Captain Metropolis were MLJ/Archie Comics' The Fly, Peacemaker, Hangman, The Black Witch, and Captain Flag, respectively (a carryover from one of Moore's earlier ideas for a superhero murder mystery). The Comedian's status as a patriotic hero is a holdover from this, inspired by Archie's Shield - evidently there was some combining of characters going on. And, as Moore admitted, the original Silk Spectre was based on the Fox Feature Syndicate version of the Phantom Lady.

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** Some of the Minutemen are also {{Captain Ersatz}}es for non-Charlton superheroes. Mothman, Comedian, Hooded Justice, Silhouette, and Captain Metropolis were MLJ/Archie Comics' The Fly, Peacemaker, Hangman, The Black Witch, and Captain Flag, respectively (a carryover from one of Moore's earlier ideas for a superhero murder mystery). The Comedian's status as a patriotic hero is a holdover from this, inspired by Archie's Shield - -- evidently there was some combining of characters going on. And, as Moore admitted, the original Silk Spectre was based on the Fox Feature Syndicate version of the Phantom Lady.



* CentralTheme: It's hard to boil it down to a single theme. Moore stated that the book is essentially about power ("Who watches the Watchmen?" Monitoring our protectors and minders) or as Dr. Manhattan states, "Who makes the world?". When a PhysicalGod doesn't have all the answers, when the "world's smartest man" is filled with doubt and the Presidents and businessmen are equally confused, why do ordinary people keep believing that they are more powerless or that they need heroes?

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* CentralTheme: It's hard to boil it down to a single theme. Moore stated that the book is essentially about power ("Who watches the Watchmen?" Monitoring Watchmen?"/Monitoring our protectors and minders) or as Dr. Manhattan states, "Who makes the world?". When a PhysicalGod doesn't have all the answers, when the "world's smartest man" is filled with doubt and the Presidents and businessmen are equally confused, why do ordinary people keep believing that they are more powerless or that they need heroes?



* CharlesAtlasSuperPower: All the heroes and ex-heroes, except Dr. Manhattan, who has ''actual'' superpowers. Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias is the most obvious, complete with actual Atlas-like bodybuilding fliers and programs and brochures and he even does the ultimate Atlas-style at the end, the BulletCatch. Incidentally, this is one comic book trope and Silver Age shtick that is more or less played straight in the comics and not subject to any mockery, even if it is blatantly unrealistic and parodied in other comics which note that maintaining HeroicBuild, and remaining in permanent fighting conditions would not be realistically possible for someone with Rorscharch's malnutrition, leave alone Adrian Veidt's impossible Silver Age Doc Savage feats.

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* CharlesAtlasSuperPower: All the heroes and ex-heroes, except Dr. Manhattan, who has ''actual'' superpowers. Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias is the most obvious, complete with actual Atlas-like bodybuilding fliers and programs and brochures and he even does the ultimate Atlas-style at the end, the BulletCatch. Incidentally, this is one comic book trope and Silver Age shtick that is more or less played straight in the comics and not subject to any mockery, even if it is blatantly unrealistic and parodied in other comics which note that maintaining HeroicBuild, and remaining in permanent fighting conditions would not be realistically possible for someone with Rorscharch's Rorschach's malnutrition, leave alone Adrian Veidt's impossible Silver Age Doc Savage feats.



* CriticalPsychoanalysisFailure: Played with; Dr. Malcolm Long is certainly affected and his notes and sessions with Rorschach in technical terms does go further in breaking through Rorscharch's facade than others before. Yet he is so moved by Rorscharch's story, that he becomes depressed and disgusted at his middle-class life compared to the horrors that Rorschach has faced in the past, ultimately realizing that he in his own way must do what he can to help people...and then being annihilated by Ozymandias.

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* CriticalPsychoanalysisFailure: Played with; Dr. Malcolm Long is certainly affected and his notes and sessions with Rorschach in technical terms does go further in breaking through Rorscharch's Rorschach's facade than others before. Yet he is so moved by Rorscharch's Rorschach's story, that he becomes depressed and disgusted at his middle-class life compared to the horrors that Rorschach has faced in the past, ultimately realizing that he in his own way must do what he can to help people...and then being annihilated by Ozymandias.



** Likewise while the comic has greatly inspired the move towards grittiness, Dave Gibbons' art is actually quite colourful rather than RealIsBrown or the studio darkness of its movie adaptation. The comics have a wide pallette and in many respects it's closer to 50s comics with purples, greens, reds and blues. The costumes worn by the characters are all colourful and bright. Alan Moore biographer Lance Parkin notes that what makes ''Watchmen'' unique was that it told a mature story while still looking like a brightly coloured adventure comic and that the contrast between story and visual style was one of the main focus of its deconstruction.
--> '''Lance Parkin''': It’s worth noting that Watchmen is not literally a dark book...the pages of the comic, even when they depict scenes set at night, are made up of vivid greens, reds, blues, oranges and yellows. It’s more reminiscent of the garish [[Series/{{Batman}} Batman TV series (1966–8)]] than Creator/ChristopherNolan’s [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy more recent Batman movies]]. Often, there is a narrative reason for such gaudiness – for example, Moloch’s apartment is intermittently lit by the neon sign from the nightclub next door – but just as often the colours used make no pretence at naturalism. As Watching the Watchmen makes clear, colourist John Higgins worked hard, and closely with Gibbons, on the colour scheme for the book. It’s fair to say the printing techniques that comics used in the mid-eighties were limited: however, when Higgins took advantage of advances in technology to redo the colouring for the 2005 Absolute Watchmen edition, he retained the overall palette, even if he made many small alterations ... The candy colours in Watchmen are an artistic choice.

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** Likewise while the comic has greatly inspired the move towards grittiness, Dave Gibbons' art is actually quite colourful rather than RealIsBrown or the studio darkness of its movie adaptation. The comics have a wide pallette palette and in many respects it's closer to 50s comics with purples, greens, reds and blues. The costumes worn by the characters are all colourful and bright. Alan Moore biographer Lance Parkin notes that what makes ''Watchmen'' unique was that it told a mature story while still looking like a brightly coloured adventure comic and that the contrast between story and visual style was one of the main focus of its deconstruction.
--> '''Lance Parkin''': It’s It's worth noting that Watchmen is not literally a dark book...the pages of the comic, even when they depict scenes set at night, are made up of vivid greens, reds, blues, oranges and yellows. It’s It's more reminiscent of the garish [[Series/{{Batman}} Batman TV series (1966–8)]] than Creator/ChristopherNolan’s [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy more recent Batman movies]]. Often, there is a narrative reason for such gaudiness -- for example, Moloch’s apartment is intermittently lit by the neon sign from the nightclub next door -- but just as often the colours used make no pretence at naturalism. As Watching the Watchmen makes clear, colourist John Higgins worked hard, and closely with Gibbons, on the colour scheme for the book. It’s It's fair to say the printing techniques that comics used in the mid-eighties were limited: however, when Higgins took advantage of advances in technology to redo the colouring for the 2005 Absolute Watchmen edition, he retained the overall palette, even if he made many small alterations ... The candy colours in Watchmen are an artistic choice.



** [[AvertedTrope Averted]] considering Rorscach read it from a newspaper, which could have easily been the ''New York Times''.

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** [[AvertedTrope Averted]] considering Rorscach Rorschach read it from a newspaper, which could have easily been the ''New York Times''.



** Captain Metropolis and The Comedian were racist.

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** Captain Metropolis and The the Comedian were racist.



** The [-AOXOMOXOA-] poster, "RR" [-(Rum Runner - think {{pirates}})-] neon sign, Rorschach's napkin blots and monogram, and other mirror images in the artwork are the [[EasterEgg key clue]] [[FridgeBrilliance tipping you off]] about the 5th chapter being a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palindrome palindrome]].

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** The [-AOXOMOXOA-] poster, "RR" [-(Rum Runner - -- think {{pirates}})-] neon sign, Rorschach's napkin blots and monogram, and other mirror images in the artwork are the [[EasterEgg key clue]] [[FridgeBrilliance tipping you off]] about the 5th chapter being a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palindrome palindrome]].



** The very first person we see in the comic is Rorschach (although we don't know it's him at the time) striding through an enormous pool of blood - a pool of blood not unlike that which Dr. Manhattan will [[LudicrousGibs turn him into]] at the end.

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** The very first person we see in the comic is Rorschach (although we don't know it's him at the time) striding through an enormous pool of blood - -- a pool of blood not unlike that which Dr. Manhattan will [[LudicrousGibs turn him into]] at the end.



* GainingTheWillToKill: Rorschach's origin flashback shows his - up until that point, he had only beaten criminals up and tied them up for the police. But after finding that a kidnapped child had been chopped up and fed to the kidnapper's two Alsatians, he begins to kill villains as necessary.

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* GainingTheWillToKill: Rorschach's origin flashback shows his - -- up until that point, he had only beaten criminals up and tied them up for the police. But after finding that a kidnapped child had been chopped up and fed to the kidnapper's two Alsatians, he begins to kill villains as necessary.



* TheGhost: Soviets --and the Soviet Union in general-- are mentioned constantly during all the story but they are never seen onscreen.

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* TheGhost: Soviets --and -- and the Soviet Union in general-- general -- are mentioned constantly during all the story but they are never seen onscreen.



** Used somewhat correctly: Hitler wasn't a vegetarian, he got that reputation because he had a very touchy stomach, and his doctor - one of the few people he listened to - kept tweaking his diet (along with his mood-altering drugs, which were mostly amphetamines by the end of the war). Mind you, in Watchmen's alternative universe, who knows?

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** Used somewhat correctly: Hitler wasn't a vegetarian, he got that reputation because he had a very touchy stomach, and his doctor - -- one of the few people he listened to - -- kept tweaking his diet (along with his mood-altering drugs, which were mostly amphetamines by the end of the war). Mind you, in Watchmen's alternative universe, who knows?



* HourglassPlot: Rorscharch and Ozymandias exchange positions at the end. The latter calls the former a right-wing loony and the former regards him as a liberal hypocrite. As a young man, Rorscharch wrote gushingly about Harry Truman's decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the wisdom of WellIntentionedExtremist thinking. But he's appalled when Ozymandias comes around to it, and does it for real.
* HowWeGotHere: Everything about the Comedian is this trope. After all, he's an omnipresent character... who was killed ''at the begining of the story''.

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* HourglassPlot: Rorscharch Rorschach and Ozymandias exchange positions at the end. The latter calls the former a right-wing loony and the former regards him as a liberal hypocrite. As a young man, Rorscharch Rorschach wrote gushingly about Harry Truman's decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the wisdom of WellIntentionedExtremist thinking. But he's appalled when Ozymandias comes around to it, and does it for real.
* HowWeGotHere: Everything about the Comedian is this trope. After all, he's an omnipresent character... who was killed ''at the begining beginning of the story''.



* HyperlinkStory: The book has a main cast of 6 costumed heroes with an intricate past and history, and an extended supporting cast of ordinary humans who weave in and out of the larger story and contain many parallel vignettes that counterpoint the main story. Moore said that he conceived the story as an ensemble and felt that the characters were meant to work in conjunction with each other, and that ultimately there is no one main character in the book, and the perspective and point of view keeps being passed between five of the main cast, The Comedian is the most prominent PosthumousCharacter.

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* HyperlinkStory: The book has a main cast of 6 costumed heroes with an intricate past and history, and an extended supporting cast of ordinary humans who weave in and out of the larger story and contain many parallel vignettes that counterpoint the main story. Moore said that he conceived the story as an ensemble and felt that the characters were meant to work in conjunction with each other, and that ultimately there is no one main character in the book, and the perspective and point of view keeps being passed between five of the main cast, The the Comedian is the most prominent PosthumousCharacter.



* ItsPersonal: The brutality of the Comedian's murder is likely fueled by Ozymandias' humiliating defeat when they first met years before. It's also implied that the Comedian murdered Hooded Justice, ostensibly because HJ was a communist agent (in fact he had Nazi sympathies) but actually in revenge for the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown HJ gave the Comedian for trying to rape Silk Spectre.

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* ItsPersonal: The brutality of the Comedian's murder is likely fueled by Ozymandias' humiliating defeat when they first met years before. It's also implied that the Comedian murdered Hooded Justice, ostensibly because HJ was a communist agent (in fact he had Nazi sympathies) sympathies), but actually in revenge for the NoHoldsBarredBeatdown HJ gave the Comedian for trying to rape Silk Spectre.



* LetsYouAndHimFight: Referenced and played with, like most ComicBookTropes in Watchmen. Ozymandias and the Comedian do this when they first meet, but it's revealed that The Comedian recognized Ozy, but attacked him anyway, using the excuse that "For some reason it happens a lot when costumed crimefighters meet for the first time."

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* LetsYouAndHimFight: Referenced and played with, like most ComicBookTropes in Watchmen. Ozymandias and the Comedian do this when they first meet, but it's revealed that The the Comedian recognized Ozy, but attacked him anyway, using the excuse that "For some reason it happens a lot when costumed crimefighters meet for the first time."



* LukeIAmYourFather: The Comedian and Laurie

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* LukeIAmYourFather: The Comedian and LaurieLaurie.



* MenGetOldWomenGetReplaced: There were originally two female members of the Minutemen team which existed in the 1940s: Silhouette and Silk Spectre. When the Crimebusters formed as their replacements, there were two veterans of the Minutemen: Captain Metropolis and The Comedian. Silhouette was [[BuryYourGays killed after being outed as a lesbian]] and Silk Spectre was replaced by her younger daughter.

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* MenGetOldWomenGetReplaced: There were originally two female members of the Minutemen team which existed in the 1940s: Silhouette and Silk Spectre. When the Crimebusters formed as their replacements, there were two veterans of the Minutemen: Captain Metropolis and The the Comedian. Silhouette was [[BuryYourGays killed after being outed as a lesbian]] and Silk Spectre was replaced by her younger daughter.



** Ozymandias and The Comedian discuss this during the first (and only) meeting of the Crimebusters. Ozymandias wants to form a professional crime fighting group to shut down all crime but the Comedian notes that it's ridiculous and pointless in the shadow of the nuclear bomb and so long as none of them have a solution to deal with that, such crime-fighting is meaningless kid's stuff. Ozymandias sees The Comedian's comments as illustrating that a true superhero's capacity has to grow and expand to properly "save the world" and so abandons conventional superheroism outwardly while still committing himself to save the world by becoming a corporate magnate, scientist and WellIntentionedExtremist. Some would say that Ozymandias has undergone MotiveDecay but Ozy would insist that conventional heroes have to grow up to better tackle problems of the adult world of geopolitics, commerce and mass media. Indeed, when Nite Owl and Rorscharch meet Veidt in his lair, he is wearing his old superhero costume rather than the civilian clothing he had been wearing throughout the comic, which suggests that in his mind he sees his actions as superheroic even if it appears the contrary to his ex-colleagues.

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** Ozymandias and The the Comedian discuss this during the first (and only) meeting of the Crimebusters. Ozymandias wants to form a professional crime fighting group to shut down all crime but the Comedian notes that it's ridiculous and pointless in the shadow of the nuclear bomb and so long as none of them have a solution to deal with that, such crime-fighting is meaningless kid's stuff. Ozymandias sees The the Comedian's comments as illustrating that a true superhero's capacity has to grow and expand to properly "save the world" and so abandons conventional superheroism outwardly while still committing himself to save the world by becoming a corporate magnate, scientist and WellIntentionedExtremist. Some would say that Ozymandias has undergone MotiveDecay but Ozy would insist that conventional heroes have to grow up to better tackle problems of the adult world of geopolitics, commerce and mass media. Indeed, when Nite Owl and Rorscharch Rorschach meet Veidt in his lair, he is wearing his old superhero costume rather than the civilian clothing he had been wearing throughout the comic, which suggests that in his mind he sees his actions as superheroic even if it appears the contrary to his ex-colleagues.



** The Comedian is a Nihilist who sees the world as nothing but a joke, and just doesn't care about right or wrong, Rorschach is an Objectivist and a moral absolutist who refuses to see the world in any terms other than Black and White, Dr. Manhattan is so alienated from the human experience that the very concept of morality escapes him, and Ozymandias favors an overall utilitarian liberal ideal of doing good to build a better society. While Laurie and Dan Dreiberg are more grounded everyman types who more or less don't act out or impose a moral view on the world.
** Ultimately none of them are truly consistent, or can be truly consistent, to their ideas. The Comedian's facade of cynicism shatters utterly and he turns out to be a lonely, self-loathing wreck who is truly pathetic on the inside. Dr. Manhattan, the most seemingly misanthropic of the superheroes, gives the ultimate HumansAreSpecial speech in the book. Ozymandias and Rorscharch exchange places as the story follows: they at first see each other as being a guilty liberal (Ozymandias) and a fascist (Rorscharch) but the morally absolute Rorscharch, who once justified Harry Truman's UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki, is stunned when Ozymandias launches a similarly brutal attack using the same justification. This time Rorscharch takes the opposite tack and denounces this action, willing to die rather than uphold this facade.

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** The Comedian is a Nihilist nihilist who sees the world as nothing but a joke, and just doesn't care about right or wrong, Rorschach is an Objectivist objectivist and a moral absolutist who refuses to see the world in any terms other than Black black and White, white, Dr. Manhattan is so alienated from the human experience that the very concept of morality escapes him, and Ozymandias favors an overall utilitarian liberal ideal of doing good to build a better society. While Laurie and Dan Dreiberg are more grounded everyman types who more or less don't act out or impose a moral view on the world.
** Ultimately none of them are truly consistent, or can be truly consistent, to their ideas. The Comedian's facade of cynicism shatters utterly and he turns out to be a lonely, self-loathing wreck who is truly pathetic on the inside. Dr. Manhattan, the most seemingly misanthropic of the superheroes, gives the ultimate HumansAreSpecial speech in the book. Ozymandias and Rorscharch Rorschach exchange places as the story follows: they at first see each other as being a guilty liberal (Ozymandias) and a fascist (Rorscharch) (Rorschach) but the morally absolute Rorscharch, Rorschach, who once justified Harry Truman's UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki, is stunned when Ozymandias launches a similarly brutal attack using the same justification. This time Rorscharch Rorschach takes the opposite tack and denounces this action, willing to die rather than uphold this facade.



* {{Narm}}: InUniverse and {{Deconstructed}} - In the original Night Owl's autobiography, ''Under the Hood'', he reminisces about "the saddest thing he can think of", and tells the story of the time him and his father's employer on the edge of a complete breakdown and his eyes full of tears broke the news that his wife was cheating on him, but despite of this being a great personal tragedy for him, they couldn't help but laugh hysterically at him, as he [[ItMakesSenseInContext was wearing big plastic breasts]] and was playing "Ride of the Valkyries" on the record player in his office. They immediately apologized to him afterwards, but their reaction is still what ultimately drove him over the edge, and he committed suicide the same day.

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* {{Narm}}: InUniverse and {{Deconstructed}} - -- In the original Night Owl's autobiography, ''Under the Hood'', he reminisces about "the saddest thing he can think of", and tells the story of the time him and his father's employer on the edge of a complete breakdown and his eyes full of tears broke the news that his wife was cheating on him, but despite of this being a great personal tragedy for him, they couldn't help but laugh hysterically at him, as he [[ItMakesSenseInContext was wearing big plastic breasts]] and was playing "Ride of the Valkyries" on the record player in his office. They immediately apologized to him afterwards, but their reaction is still what ultimately drove him over the edge, and he committed suicide the same day.



* NinetiesAntiHero: Rorschach and The Comedian are progenitors of this trope, albeit not strictly embodying it themselves. On record, Moore despises the fad for "DarkerAndEdgier" heroes whose ultraviolence is justified by some half-assed attempt at ''Watchmen''-style deconstruction; the other big-noted superhero work of 1986, Frank Miller's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' is probably a more representative proto-example of "Nineties Anti-Hero" comics.

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* NinetiesAntiHero: Rorschach and The the Comedian are progenitors of this trope, albeit not strictly embodying it themselves. On record, Moore despises the fad for "DarkerAndEdgier" heroes whose ultraviolence is justified by some half-assed attempt at ''Watchmen''-style deconstruction; the other big-noted superhero work of 1986, Frank Miller's ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' is probably a more representative proto-example of "Nineties Anti-Hero" comics.



* NoPronunciationGuide: Juspeczyk is pronounced "yoo-spe-chik" in Polish; it is not clear how she would pronounce it in America, although Sally's choice of "Jupiter" as a stage name gives a hint. Rorschach provides a half-failed aversion - it's given as "raw shark", which will work for most English people, and Noo Yawkers where the comic is set, but not to most American accents.

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* NoPronunciationGuide: Juspeczyk is pronounced "yoo-spe-chik" in Polish; it is not clear how she would pronounce it in America, although Sally's choice of "Jupiter" as a stage name gives a hint. Rorschach provides a half-failed aversion - -- it's given as "raw shark", which will work for most English people, and Noo Yawkers where the comic is set, but not to most American accents.



* NotInFrontOfTheKid: Rorschach starts to tell off his landlady for telling lies about him to the media, calling her a whore; she pleads with him not to say that in front of her kids. "They don't know." Rorschach [[PetTheDog pets that particular dog]], because he can see a parallel between her kids and his childhood - except he was ''not'' shielded from his mother's profession.

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* NotInFrontOfTheKid: Rorschach starts to tell off his landlady for telling lies about him to the media, calling her a whore; she pleads with him not to say that in front of her kids. "They don't know." Rorschach [[PetTheDog pets that particular dog]], because he can see a parallel between her kids and his childhood - -- except he was ''not'' shielded from his mother's profession.



* OldSuperhero: Deconstructed. Captain Metropolis, The Comedian and Hollis Mason for all their fighting skill can't stop the ravage of time. The last two die fighting younger enemies.

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* OldSuperhero: Deconstructed. For all their fighting skill, Captain Metropolis, The the Comedian and Hollis Mason for all their fighting skill can't stop the ravage of time. The last two die fighting younger enemies.



* ThePasswordIsAlwaysSwordfish: It's suspiciously easy for Nite Owl and Rorschach to break into Ozymandias's computer, although this was probably deliberately arranged by Veidt to lure his colleagues to Antarctica and spare them from his scheme - and to give himself an audience to gloat to, what's the point of outwitting your fellow superheroes if they don't even know it?

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* ThePasswordIsAlwaysSwordfish: It's suspiciously easy for Nite Owl and Rorschach to break into Ozymandias's computer, although this was probably deliberately arranged by Veidt to lure his colleagues to Antarctica and spare them from his scheme - -- and to give himself an audience to gloat to, what's the point of outwitting your fellow superheroes if they don't even know it?



* PosthumousCharacter: Several, but especially The Comedian, since his death starts the story.

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* PosthumousCharacter: Several, but especially The the Comedian, since his death starts the story.



* PsychologicalProjection: Rorscharch has a talent for this, projecting those characteristics on to others that he unknowingly possesses himself.
--> '''Rorscharch''': Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?

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* PsychologicalProjection: Rorscharch Rorschach has a talent for this, projecting those characteristics on to others that he unknowingly possesses himself.
--> '''Rorscharch''': '''Rorschach''': Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?



** Likewise his hilarious comment near the end about how he must not let the Egyptian decor at Veidt's office overpower his logic, unaware that his own logic was coloured by his mask-killer theory simply because Eddie Blake at the time of his death happened to be The Comedian.

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** Likewise his hilarious comment near the end about how he must not let the Egyptian decor at Veidt's office overpower his logic, unaware that his own logic was coloured by his mask-killer theory simply because Eddie Blake at the time of his death happened to be The the Comedian.



** Depending on when he started his plan, the above about Ozzy may have been as much part of the plan as anything else. After all, giving away all your money makes you quite the philanthropist and making your own fortune makes you quite the rags-to-riches story people love.
** Unless Ozy's lying, he didn't start to generate his plan until The Comedian opened his eyes to the futility of his life up to that point by burning the map of America.

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** Depending on when he started his plan, the above about Ozzy Ozy may have been as much part of the plan as anything else. After all, giving away all your money makes you quite the philanthropist and making your own fortune makes you quite the rags-to-riches story people love.
** Unless Ozy's lying, he didn't start to generate his plan until The the Comedian opened his eyes to the futility of his life up to that point by burning the map of America.



* SingleIssuePsychology: Deconstructed. The main thing which it attacks is the use of this to define comic book characters. Ultimately none of the characters, even single-minded Rorscharch can be boiled down to "[[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke one bad day]]" typical of comic heroes and villains. Everyone has multiple shades and aspects that are never fully understood, even by the characters themselves.

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* SingleIssuePsychology: Deconstructed. The main thing which it attacks is the use of this to define comic book characters. Ultimately none of the characters, even the single-minded Rorscharch Rorschach, can be boiled down to the "[[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke one bad day]]" typical of comic heroes and villains. Everyone has multiple shades and aspects that are never fully understood, even by the characters themselves.



* SociopathicHero: Rorschach and the Comedian. Deconstructed; while it quickly becomes clear that instead of being a CaptainPatriotic, the Comedian is one of these, we just learn later that even acting like a sociopath has its drawbacks - his brutality alienated everybody from him on the scale that he cannot form a human relationship anymore. While he clearly wants to reconcile with his daughter, he is incapable of that, at first because he is awkward in relationships and than because Laurie despises him for his attempted rape of her mother. And when he is desperate because of Ozymandias' plan, where does he go? To one of his former ''enemies'', where he breaks down sobbing, instead of another vigilante.

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* SociopathicHero: Rorschach and the Comedian. Deconstructed; while it quickly becomes clear that instead of being a CaptainPatriotic, the Comedian is one of these, we just learn later that even acting like a sociopath has its drawbacks - -- his brutality alienated everybody from him on the scale that he cannot form a human relationship anymore. While he clearly wants to reconcile with his daughter, he is incapable of that, at first because he is awkward in relationships and than because Laurie despises him for his attempted rape of her mother. And when he is desperate because of Ozymandias' plan, where does he go? To one of his former ''enemies'', where he breaks down sobbing, instead of another vigilante.



** There's a very clever one in ''Fearful Symmetry''. The pirate-themed Rum Runner sign has two [[TheBackwardsR Rs back to back]] so they resemble a skull. It fits the symmetry theme, but there's another thing you might not have noticed unless you know Cyrillic: the sign says [[TalkLikeAPirate Yar]]![[note]]Actually, you have to know the Cyrillic ''and'' Roman lettering systems to get that; in English it's "Backwards R - "R" and in Cyrilic it's "Ya" - "Backwards Ya", since the Roman R character does not exist in Cyrillic and the character for the same sound looks like a Roman P.[[/note]]

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** There's a very clever one in ''Fearful Symmetry''. The pirate-themed Rum Runner sign has two [[TheBackwardsR Rs back to back]] so they resemble a skull. It fits the symmetry theme, but there's another thing you might not have noticed unless you know Cyrillic: the sign says [[TalkLikeAPirate Yar]]![[note]]Actually, you have to know the Cyrillic ''and'' Roman lettering systems to get that; in English it's "Backwards R - -- "R" and in Cyrilic it's "Ya" - -- "Backwards Ya", since the Roman R character does not exist in Cyrillic and the character for the same sound looks like a Roman P.[[/note]]



* TheTopicOfCancer: Doctor Manhattan is extremely distraught to discover that the radiation emitted by his physical avatar gave his friends cancer. This has actually been a ploy by Ozymandias, [[MoralEventHorizon who gave them cancer himself]].

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* TheTopicOfCancer: Doctor Manhattan is extremely distraught to discover that the radiation emitted by his physical avatar gave his friends cancer. This has was actually been a ploy by Ozymandias, [[MoralEventHorizon who gave them cancer himself]].



* TrespassingToTalk: Rorscharch frequently does this, both to his friends and enemies. In one case, leaving a Right Behind You message in the victim's fridge.

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* TrespassingToTalk: Rorscharch Rorschach frequently does this, both to his friends and enemies. In one case, leaving a Right Behind You message in the victim's fridge.



* UglyHeroGoodLookingVillain: Rorschach is quite homely and short, both of which are mentioned in-story at least once. Also, he smells bad, dresses scruffily and has terrible table manners. He's a NobleBigot, a rape apologist, a NietzscheWannabe ... but, then again, Rorschach [[PayEvilUntoEvil only kills dangerous criminals]]. Ozymandias, is attractive in a sort of fey, {{Bishounen}} way and WickedCultured. While Rorschach and Ozymandias are both {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s, Rorschach ''[[NeverHurtAnInnocent never]]'' hurt an innocent person throughout the whole story, whereas Ozymandias killed two million innocent people with the intention of saving billions from nuclear war. This kind of pushes Rorschach into an AntiHero while Ozymandias is more of an AntiVillain, so this mostly plays the trope straight.

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* UglyHeroGoodLookingVillain: Rorschach is quite homely and short, both of which are mentioned in-story at least once. Also, he smells bad, dresses scruffily and has terrible table manners. He's a NobleBigot, a rape apologist, a NietzscheWannabe ... but, then again, Rorschach [[PayEvilUntoEvil only kills dangerous criminals]]. Ozymandias, is attractive in a sort of fey, {{Bishounen}} way and WickedCultured. While Rorschach and Ozymandias are both {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s, Rorschach ''[[NeverHurtAnInnocent never]]'' hurt an innocent person throughout the whole story, whereas Ozymandias killed two over three million innocent people with the intention of saving billions from nuclear war. This kind of pushes Rorschach into an AntiHero while Ozymandias is more of an AntiVillain, so this mostly plays the trope straight.



* TheUnfettered: The Comedian, Dr. Manhattan and Rorschach. Ozymandias.

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* TheUnfettered: The Comedian, Dr. Manhattan Manhattan, Rorschach, and Rorschach. Ozymandias.



** Such as The Comedian drinking: "''nk nk nk''".

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** Such as The the Comedian drinking: "''nk nk nk''".
7th May '18 5:35:57 AM Skyblade743
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** [[AvertedTrope Averted]] considering Rorscach read it from a newspaper, which could have easily been the ''New York Times''.
6th May '18 9:41:45 AM nombretomado
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** The child kidnapper murdered by Rorschach named his dogs [[TheFlintstones Fred and Barney]].

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** The child kidnapper murdered by Rorschach named his dogs [[TheFlintstones [[WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones Fred and Barney]].
18th Apr '18 9:46:04 AM Origamidragons
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** The 22nd Amendment was amended in this universe, and Watergate either never happened, wasn't discovered, or just didn't have its real-life effects, so UsefulNotes/RichardNixon is on his fifth term in office.

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** The 22nd Amendment was amended in this universe, and Watergate either never happened, wasn't discovered, or just didn't have its real-life effects, so UsefulNotes/RichardNixon is on his fifth term in office. The EasterEgg mentionining [[Literature/AllThePresidentsMen two Washington Post writers found dead in a garage]] implies that the events still took place, but the scandal was not broken to the public by Woodward and Bernstein as they were silenced (probably by the Comedian).
12th Apr '18 9:03:08 AM MrDeath
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* MiniDressOfPower: Both Silk Spectre's with Silk Spectre II wearing a black LeotardOfPower over a see through skirt with a chiffon cover, a belt, and heels.

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* MiniDressOfPower: Both Silk Spectre's Spectres with Silk Spectre II wearing a black LeotardOfPower over a see through skirt with a chiffon cover, a belt, and heels.
25th Mar '18 4:12:03 PM smasll_lordvoice
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* CastOfSnowflakes: Dave Gibbons' highly realistic art style makes all the characters extremely distinct and recognizable even as they age many years. There are many scenes where you can spot the numerous RecurringExtra characters appearing in the background even when the narration or dialogue doesn't call attention to it.
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* CivvieSpandex / CoatHatMask: Rorschach's "costume" consists of his mask, plus a hat, [[BadassLongcoat trenchcoat]], a purple pinstriped suit, and leather gloves. Silk Spectre 1's costume is essentially just lingerie, and Silk Spectre 2 is a bathing suit with a chiffon cover, a belt, and heels.


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* CoatHatMask: Rorschach's "costume" consists of his mask, plus a hat, [[BadassLongcoat trenchcoat]], a purple pinstriped suit, and leather gloves.


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* MiniDressOfPower: Both Silk Spectre's with Silk Spectre II wearing a black LeotardOfPower over a see through skirt with a chiffon cover, a belt, and heels.
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** Some of the Minutemen are also {{Captain Ersatz}}es for non-Charlton superheroes. Mothman, Comedian and Hooded Justice were MLJ/Archie Comics' the Fly, Black Hood and Hangman, respectively (a carryover from one of Moore's earlier ideas for a superhero murder mystery). The Comedian's status as a patriotic hero is a holdover from this, inspired by Archie's Shield - evidently there was some combining of characters going on. And, as Moore admitted, the original Silk Spectre was based on the Fox Feature Syndicate version of the Phantom Lady.

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** Some of the Minutemen are also {{Captain Ersatz}}es for non-Charlton superheroes. Mothman, Comedian and Comedian, Hooded Justice Justice, Silhouette, and Captain Metropolis were MLJ/Archie Comics' the The Fly, Black Hood and Peacemaker, Hangman, The Black Witch, and Captain Flag, respectively (a carryover from one of Moore's earlier ideas for a superhero murder mystery). The Comedian's status as a patriotic hero is a holdover from this, inspired by Archie's Shield - evidently there was some combining of characters going on. And, as Moore admitted, the original Silk Spectre was based on the Fox Feature Syndicate version of the Phantom Lady.
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