History Comicbook / VForVendetta

9th Apr '16 2:39:22 AM eroock
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'''''V for Vendetta''''' is a comic by Creator/AlanMoore and David Lloyd. Starting in March, 1982, it ran for 10 issues, originally in a British anthology comic called Warrior, and later in its own comic published by DC. It features several of Alan Moore's trademarks: Anarchy portrayed as a positive force, mixing fiction and historical fact, and [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism large amounts of cynicism]].

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'''''V ''V for Vendetta''''' Vendetta'' is a comic by Creator/AlanMoore and David Lloyd. Starting in March, 1982, it ran for 10 issues, originally in a British anthology comic called Warrior, and later in its own comic published by DC. It features several of Alan Moore's trademarks: Anarchy portrayed as a positive force, mixing fiction and historical fact, and [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism large amounts of cynicism]].
9th Dec '15 12:39:10 AM Fireblood
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The Army is mentioned on TV as fighting a insurgency in the north. However when martial law is declared no troops are deployed to London.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: The Army is mentioned on TV as fighting a an insurgency in the north.Scotland. However when martial law is declared no troops are deployed to London.
9th Dec '15 12:29:42 AM Fireblood
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** Archbishop Anthony Lilliman was a pedophile who stood by while V was administered the serum, so V had Evey dress as a prostitute to get close to him, and killed him by forcing him to consume a cyanide-laced communion wafer. The whole point is that V forced Archbishop Lilliman to confess to ''him'' and to repent in a blasphemous mockery of the Catholic rite (though Liliman's lifestyle was practicing many things the Catholic Chuch's teachings oppose). The cyanide-laced communion wafer is horrifying to the clergyman because the Catholic faith dictates that no matter what the wafer is made of before it is consumed, it will become the "flesh of the savior" through the "miracle of transubstantiation" the moment it enters a pious man's mouth. However...

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** Archbishop Anthony Lilliman was a pedophile who stood by while V was administered the serum, so V had Evey dress as a prostitute to get close to him, and killed him by forcing him to consume a cyanide-laced communion wafer. The whole point is that V forced Archbishop Lilliman to confess to ''him'' and to repent in a blasphemous mockery of the Catholic rite (though Liliman's Lilliman's lifestyle was practicing many things the Catholic Chuch's Church's teachings oppose). The cyanide-laced communion wafer is horrifying to the clergyman because the Catholic faith dictates that no matter what the wafer is made of before it is consumed, it will become the "flesh of the savior" through the "miracle of transubstantiation" the moment it enters a pious man's mouth. However...



** Susan knows he is oppressing his people, but he is doing it to ensure their survival. When he realises his infautation with FATE is over and he cannot escape this way, he really wants human contact from the people he saved by oppressing them, and welcomes the high party woman he has seen a lot of times but whose name he could not remember [[spoiler: ...and she has a gun.]]

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** Susan knows he is oppressing his people, but he is doing it to ensure their survival. When he realises his infautation infatuation with FATE is over and he cannot escape this way, he really wants human contact from the people he saved by oppressing them, and welcomes the high party woman he has seen a lot of times but whose name he could not remember [[spoiler: ...and she has a gun.]]



** Finch reflects exactly this at Larkhill camp: He pretended to work for the party so society can survive and to heal from his son and wife deaths... but at the end, finds that the sacrifice was not worthy and abandons Norsefire.
** Susan reflects: ''Freedom to my people? The freedom to die from hunger or freeze? I don't think so''

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** Finch reflects exactly this at Larkhill camp: He pretended to work for the party so society can survive and to heal from his son and wife wife's deaths... but at the end, finds that the sacrifice was not worthy and abandons Norsefire.
** Susan reflects: ''Freedom to my people? The freedom to die from hunger or freeze? I don't think so''so.''
9th Dec '15 12:24:04 AM Fireblood
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* HappinessInSlavery: [[DiscussedTrope discussed]], [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]], then outright [[DefiedTrope defied]] by V, saying the people's happiness comes from having never compared their lives to freedom.

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* HappinessInSlavery: [[DiscussedTrope discussed]], Discussed]], [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]], then outright [[DefiedTrope defied]] by V, saying the people's happiness comes from having never compared their lives to freedom.



** Rosemary's treatment at the hands of the government. Obviously the government treats everyone poorly but Rose's husband was a high ranking official. You'd think even they would be more sympathetic.

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** Rosemary's treatment at the hands of the government. Obviously the government treats everyone poorly but Rose's husband was a high ranking high-ranking official. You'd think even they would be more sympathetic.
26th Oct '15 9:01:03 AM ham-peas
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* TakeThat: Adam ''Susan'' is based on another 80's famous politician with the name of a girl, Ronald ''Reagan''. And in this universe, Susan did not survive the attempt on his life that Reagan did.

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* TakeThat: Adam ''Susan'' is based on another 80's famous politician with the name of a girl, Ronald ''Reagan''. And in this universe, Susan did not survive the attempt on his life that Reagan did. Susan also has a distinct facial resemblance to Mao Zedong, which sits oddly at first for a ''fascist'', rather than a communist, dictator; then again, especially from an anarchist perspective, there's not all that much to choose between those two flavors of totalitarianism.
26th Oct '15 8:51:51 AM ham-peas
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Norsefire]]. They came to power after first Thatcher's government fell, a Labour Party government replacing Thatcher withdrew from NATO and caused the UsefulNotes/ColdWar to go hot, resulting in the most far-right policies being seen as vindicated, but Alan Moore models them as a FictionalCounterpart to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Front the British National Front]].

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* FictionalPoliticalParty: [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Norsefire]]. They came to power after first Thatcher's government fell, a Labour Party government replacing Thatcher withdrew from NATO and caused the UsefulNotes/ColdWar to go hot, resulting in the most far-right policies being seen as vindicated, but Alan Moore models them as a FictionalCounterpart to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Front the British National Front]].
26th Oct '15 8:50:01 AM ham-peas
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* DramaticUnmask: Averted with Evey having the chance to unmask V, but deciding that even if he were her father as she suspected, knowing the anarchist's true identity would not be worth diminishing his role's symbolic value if she unmasked him.

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* DramaticUnmask: Averted with Evey having the chance to unmask V, but deciding that even if he were her father as she suspected, knowing the anarchist's true identity would not be worth diminishing his role's symbolic value if she unmasked him.
26th Oct '15 8:48:11 AM ham-peas
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* BuryYourGays: Among the people who were tested alongside V, there were two lesbians called Valerie and Rita, who due to hormone injections not only died, but in Rita's case [[BodyHorror developed vestigial fingers on her leg]]. Also Ruth, Valerie's lover, who committed suicide [[spoiler: after falsely claiming that Valerie seduced her and giving up her location to her captors, apparently in order to commute her own sentence from death by medical experimentation to lifelong imprisonment]]. According to Finch, this was the fate of most of Britain's LGBT people.

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* BuryYourGays: Among the people who were tested alongside V, there were two lesbians called Valerie and Rita, who due to hormone injections not only died, but in Rita's case [[BodyHorror developed vestigial fingers on in her leg]]. Also Ruth, Valerie's lover, who committed suicide [[spoiler: after falsely claiming that out of regret for having betrayed Valerie seduced her and giving up her location to her captors, apparently in order to commute her own sentence from death by medical experimentation to lifelong imprisonment]].under torture]]. According to Finch, this was the fate of most of Britain's LGBT people.
26th Oct '15 8:47:05 AM ham-peas
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* BunnyEarsLawyer: Finch has said, to Adam Susan's face, that he disapproves of the Norsefire party. While most people would probably be locked up for this, Finch is so damn good at his job that Susan lets it slide.

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* BunnyEarsLawyer: Finch has said, said more than once, to Adam Susan's face, that he disapproves of the Norsefire party. While most people would probably be locked up for this, When we see him do so, Susan notes that it's only because Finch is so damn good at his job job, leading the Norsefire regime's security forces, that Susan lets it slide.he is still alive.
26th Oct '15 8:44:02 AM ham-peas
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** Adam Susan has some of this as well since he is reluctant to carry out his "duties" and seems to believe he is doing the right thing. However, he is arrogant as well as displaying racist and homophobic tendencies.

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** Adam Susan has some of this as well since he is reluctant to carry out his "duties" and seems to believe he is doing the right thing. However, On the other hand, he is arrogant as well as displaying racist and ''is'' a racist, homophobic tendencies.dictator, and his internal monologue late in the story reveals that he's also a clinical sociopath to whom other people aren't real, which qualifies him much more as 'villain' than 'anti'.
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