History Comicbook / AvatarTheLastAirbenderThePromise

7th Feb '16 10:33:43 AM LentilSandEater
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Read this as a 21st-century Westerner, familiar with the concept of dual-citizenship and naturalization, and it'll seem like the characters are holding the IdiotBall. But, if you remember that people in the Avatar-verse have been raised with strong senses of ethnoccentrism, and consider that such views have been popular throughout human history, and still are in some parts of the world (Japanese-born Koreans still can't vote), you begin to realize why the characters are facing this dilemma.
** Even [[WhoopiEpiphanySpeech Katara]] - ''who is devoutly and joyously '''practicing''' that lifestyle'' - only realizes this during a EurekaMoment of [[Awesome/AvatarTheLastAirbenderComics Awesome]].

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Read this as a 21st-century Westerner, familiar with the concept of dual-citizenship and naturalization, and it'll seem like the characters are holding the IdiotBall. But, if you remember that people in the Avatar-verse have been raised with strong senses of ethnoccentrism, and consider that such views have been popular throughout human history, and still are in some parts of the world (Japanese-born Koreans still can't vote), you begin to realize why the characters are facing this dilemma.
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dilemma. Even [[WhoopiEpiphanySpeech Katara]] - ''who is devoutly and joyously '''practicing''' that lifestyle'' - only realizes this during a EurekaMoment of [[Awesome/AvatarTheLastAirbenderComics Awesome]].
7th Feb '16 10:29:49 AM LentilSandEater
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** A mullet would have actually made sense: even though he's got short hair, he'd have to have a longer section at the crown in order to get it into the top-knot style he usually wears (guess he went with removable extensions, instead).
18th Oct '15 10:03:17 AM felinecritic
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** A mullet would have actually made sense: even though he's got short hair, he'd have to have a longer section at the crown in order to get it into the top-knot style he usually wears (guess he went with removable extensions, instead).
16th Aug '15 2:42:00 PM Kalaong
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** This is even acknowledged ''in-universe''; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it a hundred years ago) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]

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** This is even acknowledged ''in-universe''; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it a hundred years ago) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the [[spoiler:the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. Nation.]] [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]
30th Jul '15 10:25:21 AM Kalaong
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Read this as a 21st-century Westerner, familiar with the concept of dual-citizenship and naturalization, and it'll seem like the characters are holding the IdiotBall. But, if you remember that people in the Avatar-verse have been raised with strong senses of ethnoccentrism, and consider that such views have been popular throughout human history, and still are in some parts of the world (Japanese-born Koreans still can't vote), you begin to realize why the characters are facing this dilema.

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Read this as a 21st-century Westerner, familiar with the concept of dual-citizenship and naturalization, and it'll seem like the characters are holding the IdiotBall. But, if you remember that people in the Avatar-verse have been raised with strong senses of ethnoccentrism, and consider that such views have been popular throughout human history, and still are in some parts of the world (Japanese-born Koreans still can't vote), you begin to realize why the characters are facing this dilema.dilemma.
** Even [[WhoopiEpiphanySpeech Katara]] - ''who is devoutly and joyously '''practicing''' that lifestyle'' - only realizes this during a EurekaMoment of [[Awesome/AvatarTheLastAirbenderComics Awesome]].
30th Jul '15 10:20:06 AM Kalaong
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** This is even acknowledged ''in-universe''; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]

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** This is even acknowledged ''in-universe''; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) it a hundred years ago) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]
30th Jul '15 10:19:04 AM Kalaong
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** This is even acknowledges ''in-universe''; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]

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** This is even acknowledges acknowledged ''in-universe''; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]
30th Jul '15 10:12:19 AM Kalaong
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* GrayAndGrayMorality: * BrokenAesop: The themes regarding the dangers of nationalism and ethnocentrism not withstanding, the fact remains that the Fire Nation seized land from the Earth Kingdom during a war THEY instigated, suppressed the people they subjugated, and all the while committed numerous war crimes. It's not surprising that the Earth Kingdom's citizens would be outraged over Zuko going back on a peace treaty by allowing Fire Nation citizens to remain in the colonies despite them never having any legal basis to live there.
** It even acknowledges this; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]

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* GrayAndGrayMorality: * BrokenAesop: The themes regarding the dangers of nationalism and ethnocentrism not withstanding, the fact remains that the Fire Nation seized land from the Earth Kingdom during a war THEY instigated, suppressed the people they subjugated, and all the while committed numerous war crimes. It's not surprising that the Earth Kingdom's citizens would be outraged over Zuko going back on a peace treaty by allowing Fire Nation citizens to remain in the colonies despite them never having any legal basis to live there.
** It This is even acknowledges this; ''in-universe''; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]
30th Jul '15 10:03:16 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* BrokenAesop: The themes regarding the dangers of nationalism and ethnocentrism not withstanding, the fact remains that the Fire Nation seized land from the Earth Kingdom during a war THEY instigated, suppressed the people they subjugated, and all the while committed numerous war crimes. It's not surprising that the Earth Kingdom's citizens would be outraged over Zuko going back on a peace treaty by allowing Fire Nation citizens to remain in the colonies despite them never having any legal basis to live there.
** It even acknowledges this; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. Of course, [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]


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*GrayAndGrayMorality: * BrokenAesop: The themes regarding the dangers of nationalism and ethnocentrism not withstanding, the fact remains that the Fire Nation seized land from the Earth Kingdom during a war THEY instigated, suppressed the people they subjugated, and all the while committed numerous war crimes. It's not surprising that the Earth Kingdom's citizens would be outraged over Zuko going back on a peace treaty by allowing Fire Nation citizens to remain in the colonies despite them never having any legal basis to live there.
** It even acknowledges this; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]
30th Jul '15 9:16:15 AM Kalaong
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** It even acknowledges this; simply returning the stolen territory wouldn't work because numerous multi-ethnic families have formed during the war, so it would either break up those families or expel people from homes they ''did'' have a hereditary right to. On top of ''that'', in many cases the territory in question was a lot less valuable(to the point that a hundred years before the Earth Kingdoms didn't ''care'' about "losing" it) prior to the Fire Nation industrializing it, so "returning" the territory wouldn't be fair either. In the end, the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdoms ''both'' surrender the territory in favor of building an independent fifth Nation. Of course, [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra seventy years later]], [[spoiler:season 4 BigBad Kuvira justifies the '''biggest battle in recorded history''' over reclaiming that territory.]]
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