History ComicBook / Watchmen

21st Feb '18 6:00:44 PM costanton11
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** There's a movie star with an AlliterativeName running for President of the United States in 1988, but it's Creator/RobertRedford instead of Creator/RonaldReagan.

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** There's a movie star with an AlliterativeName running for President of the United States in 1988, but it's Creator/RobertRedford instead of Creator/RonaldReagan.UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan.
19th Feb '18 5:39:33 AM Buck
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---> Is that what happens to us? A life of conflict with no time for friends...so that when it's done, only our enemies leave roses.



---> Is that what happens to us? A life of conflict with no time for friends...so that when it's done, only our enemies leave roses.
19th Feb '18 5:37:11 AM Buck
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** Lawrence is another one. He is killed by Michael while under Big Figure's orders who wanted revenge on Rorschach. In the comic Lawrence gets his throat slit with a utility knife, in the movie his arms are cut off.
1st Feb '18 11:14:01 PM Narutaki2012
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** The discussion of this trope by the Comedian at the first (and last) [[SuperTeam Crimebusters]] reunion is what [[spoiler: sets the whole plot]]
31st Jan '18 6:05:56 PM TheBigBopper
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* AntiNihilist: Possibly Rorschach, though he is far from the kindest or most humane example of this type of character. Faced with a world that he finds to be essentially meaningless, he chooses to see patterns that no other people can, and build his strict moral code from that. In other words, despite knowing that he lives in a nihilistic universe, he never, ''ever'', gives up on his ideals. Even when it may have been better for all concerned.

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Possibly Rorschach, though he is far from the kindest or most humane example of this type of character. Faced with a world that he finds to be essentially meaningless, he chooses to see patterns that no other people can, and build his strict moral code from that. In other words, despite knowing that he lives in a nihilistic universe, he never, ''ever'', gives up on his ideals. Even when it may have been better for all concerned.



* ArcSymbol: The doomsday clock counting down to Veidt's monster destroying New York.

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The doomsday clock counting down to Veidt's monster destroying New York.



* ArcWords: "Who Watches the Watchmen?"

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"Who Watches the Watchmen?"
26th Jan '18 6:16:46 PM ZShogan
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: Olympus Mons looks nothing like the way it's portrayed here. Olympus Mons is a shield volcano about 22km high, but also about as wide as France. Consequently, it has a shallow slope of only about 5°.
19th Jan '18 5:48:00 AM Cryoclaste
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** For that matter, towards the end, it features a TV advertising the start of ''Series/TheOuterLimits'' episode "The Architects of Fear". The basic premise of the villain's plan is almost identical to that episode. Although Creator/AlanMoore claims it was a coincidence they were similar, he deliberately added the Shout Out upon discovering the similarity.
*** DC editor Len Wein, who is most famous for creating Comicbook/SwampThing, tells a different story: Moore admitted to stealing the plot from The Outer Limits; when Wein pushed him to change it to something original, Moore refused, and Wein quit the book over it. Years later, Wein has had the last laugh: in writing the Comicbook/BeforeWatchmen Ozymandias series, [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/01/29/len-wein-the-outer-limits-and-rewriting-watchmen/ Wein had Veidt get the whole idea from "The Architects of Fear."]]

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** For that matter, towards the end, it features a TV advertising the start of ''Series/TheOuterLimits'' ''Series/{{The Outer Limits|1963}}'' episode "The Architects of Fear". The basic premise of the villain's plan is almost identical to that episode. Although Creator/AlanMoore claims it was a coincidence they were similar, he deliberately added the Shout Out upon discovering the similarity.
*** DC editor Len Wein, who is most famous for creating Comicbook/SwampThing, tells a different story: Moore admitted to stealing the plot from The ''The Outer Limits; Limits''; when Wein pushed him to change it to something original, Moore refused, and Wein quit the book over it. Years later, Wein has had the last laugh: in writing the Comicbook/BeforeWatchmen Ozymandias series, [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/01/29/len-wein-the-outer-limits-and-rewriting-watchmen/ Wein had Veidt get the whole idea from "The Architects of Fear."]]
9th Jan '18 10:57:29 AM smasll_lordvoice
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** No matter how much of an invincible Terminator you are, [[RealityEnsues going up a heavily armored Special Forces unit with access to automatic weapons while using only a smooth-bore musket and absolutely no protection for yourself is not going to end well for you.]] The first appearance of Doctor Manhattan: a giant, glowing blue naked humanoid towering over Laurie and Rorschach, who, when Rorschach informs him of the Comedian's death, replies, "Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?" [[BlueAndOrangeMorality The good Doctor is in, everybody.]]

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** No matter how much of an invincible Terminator you are, [[RealityEnsues going up a heavily armored Special Forces unit with access to automatic weapons while using only a smooth-bore musket and absolutely no protection for yourself is not going to end well for you.]] The first appearance of Doctor Manhattan: a giant, glowing blue naked humanoid towering over Laurie and Rorschach, who, when Rorschach informs him of the Comedian's death, replies, "Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?" [[BlueAndOrangeMorality The good Doctor is in, everybody.]]
9th Jan '18 10:56:43 AM smasll_lordvoice
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* Rorschach's nihilistic "and I'll whisper, 'No'" inner monologue as he, unknown to the audience, walks unmasked through the massive puddle of blood left behind by the Comedian's death. Easily one of the most iconic introductory speeches in comic history.
* The first appearance of Doctor Manhattan: a giant, glowing blue naked humanoid towering over Laurie and Rorschach, who, when Rorschach informs him of the Comedian's death, replies, "Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?" [[BlueAndOrangeMorality The good Doctor is in, everybody.]]
* The Comedian is described as a slain American hero who many speak of with reverence, and when we first see him in person, he's laughing and good-naturedly joking around with the other Minutemen while shamelessly flirting with Silk Spectre I. A few minutes later, [[BaitTheDog he tries to rape her and beats her viciously when she resists him.]]

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* ** Rorschach's nihilistic "and I'll whisper, 'No'" inner monologue as he, unknown to the audience, walks unmasked through the massive puddle of blood left behind by the Comedian's death. Easily one of the most iconic introductory speeches in comic history.
* ** No matter how much of an invincible Terminator you are, [[RealityEnsues going up a heavily armored Special Forces unit with access to automatic weapons while using only a smooth-bore musket and absolutely no protection for yourself is not going to end well for you.]] The first appearance of Doctor Manhattan: a giant, glowing blue naked humanoid towering over Laurie and Rorschach, who, when Rorschach informs him of the Comedian's death, replies, "Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?" [[BlueAndOrangeMorality The good Doctor is in, everybody.]]
* ** The Comedian is described as a slain American hero who many speak of with reverence, and when we first see him in person, he's laughing and good-naturedly joking around with the other Minutemen while shamelessly flirting with Silk Spectre I. A few minutes later, [[BaitTheDog he tries to rape her and beats her viciously when she resists him.]]
9th Jan '18 10:52:52 AM smasll_lordvoice
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* Rorschach's nihilistic "and I'll whisper, 'No'" inner monologue as he, unknown to the audience, walks unmasked through the massive puddle of blood left behind by the Comedian's death. Easily one of the most iconic introductory speeches in comic history.
* The first appearance of Doctor Manhattan: a giant, glowing blue naked humanoid towering over Laurie and Rorschach, who, when Rorschach informs him of the Comedian's death, replies, "Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?" [[BlueAndOrangeMorality The good Doctor is in, everybody.]]
* The Comedian is described as a slain American hero who many speak of with reverence, and when we first see him in person, he's laughing and good-naturedly joking around with the other Minutemen while shamelessly flirting with Silk Spectre I. A few minutes later, [[BaitTheDog he tries to rape her and beats her viciously when she resists him.]]
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