History ComicBook / TheKillingJoke

11th Oct '17 5:29:06 AM HighCrate
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* OhCrap:
** Batman, at the beginning when [[spoiler:'the Joker's' makeup rubs off.]]
** Barbara gets a brief one when she sees the Joker, right before he shoots her.
** Batman himself has one at the end, when Joker pulls the same gun on him, lined up for a perfect shot, only for the gun to be empty.

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* %%* OhCrap:
** %%** Batman, at the beginning when [[spoiler:'the Joker's' makeup rubs off.]]
** %%** Barbara gets a brief one when she sees the Joker, right before he shoots her.
** %%** Batman himself has one at the end, when Joker pulls the same gun on him, lined up for a perfect shot, only for the gun to be empty.
10th Oct '17 5:26:02 PM Mikedem2
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** Batman, at the beginning when [[spoiler:'the Joker's' makeup rubs off.]]
8th Jul '17 10:40:17 AM HighCrate
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* FailureHero: Batman, from a certain point of view, accomplishes very little in this story. He's busy brooding in the Batcave when Barbara gets shot, and arrives too late to even get her medical attention (Barbara's neighbor did so). After visiting Barbara in the hospital, he rampages across Gotham on an InterrogationMontage... and ''utterly fails'' to find the Joker until the Joker sends him ''a literal invitation''. After that he rescues the Commissioner and subdues the Joker - victories, but unimpressive ones, given the lack of fight Joker and his gang put up, and [[WonTheWarLostThePeace the Joker politely (by his standards) but firmly rejects his offer of "real" rehabilitation]]. Subsequent comics made it even worse, portraying the whole story as an unqualified victory for the Joker, who cheerfully gloats about it at every opportunity.

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* FailureHero: Batman, from a certain point of view, Batman accomplishes very little in this story. He's busy brooding in the Batcave when Barbara gets shot, and arrives too late to even get her medical attention (Barbara's neighbor did so). After visiting Barbara in the hospital, he rampages across Gotham on an InterrogationMontage... and ''utterly fails'' to find the Joker until the Joker sends him ''a literal invitation''. After that he rescues the Commissioner and subdues the Joker - victories, but unimpressive ones, given the lack of fight Joker and his gang put up, and [[WonTheWarLostThePeace the Joker politely (by his standards) but firmly rejects his offer of "real" rehabilitation]]. Subsequent comics made it even worse, portraying the whole story as an unqualified victory for the Joker, who cheerfully gloats about it at every opportunity.
8th Jul '17 9:10:06 AM Rubber_Lotus
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* FailureHero: Batman, from a certain point of view, accomplishes very little in this story. He's busy brooding in the Batcave when Barbara gets shot, and arrives too late to even get her medical attention (Barbara's neighbor did so). After visiting Barbara in the hospital, he rampages across Gotham on an InterrogationMontage... and ''utterly fails'' to find the Joker until the Joker sends him ''a literal invitation''. After that he rescues the Commissioner and subdues the Joker - victories, but unimpressive ones, given the lack of fight Joker and his gang put up, and [[WinTheBattleLoseTheWar the Joker politely (by his standards) but firmly rejects his offer of "real" rehabilitation]]. Subsequent comics made it even worse, portraying the whole story as an unqualified victory for the Joker, who cheerfully gloats about it at every opportunity.

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* FailureHero: Batman, from a certain point of view, accomplishes very little in this story. He's busy brooding in the Batcave when Barbara gets shot, and arrives too late to even get her medical attention (Barbara's neighbor did so). After visiting Barbara in the hospital, he rampages across Gotham on an InterrogationMontage... and ''utterly fails'' to find the Joker until the Joker sends him ''a literal invitation''. After that he rescues the Commissioner and subdues the Joker - victories, but unimpressive ones, given the lack of fight Joker and his gang put up, and [[WinTheBattleLoseTheWar [[WonTheWarLostThePeace the Joker politely (by his standards) but firmly rejects his offer of "real" rehabilitation]]. Subsequent comics made it even worse, portraying the whole story as an unqualified victory for the Joker, who cheerfully gloats about it at every opportunity.
8th Jul '17 9:09:06 AM Rubber_Lotus
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* FailureHero: Batman, from a certain point of view, accomplishes very little in this story. He's busy brooding in the Batcave when Barbara gets shot, and arrives too late to even get her medical attention (Barbara's neighbor did so). After visiting Barbara in the hospital, he rampages across Gotham on an InterrogationMontage... and ''utterly fails'' to find the Joker until the Joker sends him ''a literal invitation''. After that he rescues the Commissioner and subdues the Joker - victories, but unimpressive ones, given the lack of fight Joker and his gang put up, and [[WinTheBattleLoseTheWar the Joker politely (by his standards) but firmly rejects his offer of "real" rehabilitation]]. Subsequent comics made it even worse, portraying the whole story as an unqualified victory for the Joker, who cheerfully gloats about it at every opportunity.
6th Jun '17 4:48:40 PM rjd1922
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* DeliberatelyMonochrome: The 2008 recoloring has the Red Hood flashbacks in monochrome with the exception of red.



* MonochromePast: The 2008 recoloring has the Red Hood flashbacks in monochrome with the exception of red.



** The 2008 twentieth-anniversary edition was completely recolored: new details such as [[EyeScream the Joker's eyes bleeding]] were added, the flashbacks were made DeliberatelyMonochrome, and the yellow oval around the Batman insignia was removed (bringing the costume into line with ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', which was heavily influenced by ''The Killing Joke''). Brian Bolland ''hated'' the original coloring, which is intentionally garish and jarring. He approved of the re-release on one condition: he had to be allowed to personally recolor it. However, critics of the re-release like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsz-FC8RrCU In Bob We Trust]] noted that making ''The Killing Joke'' look like every other grimdark modern comic book removed the one thing that set the issue apart from its contemporaries and imitators of today.

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** The 2008 twentieth-anniversary edition was completely recolored: new details such as [[EyeScream [[TearsOfBlood the Joker's eyes bleeding]] were added, the flashbacks were made DeliberatelyMonochrome, and the yellow oval around the Batman insignia was removed (bringing the costume into line with ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', which was heavily influenced by ''The Killing Joke''). Brian Bolland ''hated'' the original coloring, which is intentionally garish and jarring. He approved of the re-release on one condition: he had to be allowed to personally recolor it. However, critics of the re-release like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsz-FC8RrCU In Bob We Trust]] noted that making ''The Killing Joke'' look like every other grimdark modern comic book removed the one thing that set the issue apart from its contemporaries and imitators of today.
5th Jun '17 8:26:48 PM Goatllama
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* BigDamnHeroes: Just Joker completes his insane derision of Gordon as a hopeless "Average Man," Batman roars on to the scene in the Batmobile and scatters Joker's minions from the mere sight of him.

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* BigDamnHeroes: Just as Joker completes his insane derision of Gordon as a hopeless "Average Man," Batman roars on to onto the scene in the Batmobile and scatters Joker's minions from the mere sight of him.
2nd May '17 4:03:42 AM Cryoclaste
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* HawaiianShirtedTourist: Joker dons this outfit for maybe a page and a half when he shoots Barbara Gordon - but it's remembered to the point where it's one of his alternate costumes in ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Batman]]''.

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* HawaiianShirtedTourist: Joker dons this outfit for maybe a page and a half when he shoots Barbara Gordon - but it's remembered to the point where it's one of his alternate costumes in ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Batman]]''.''VideoGame/LEGOBatman''.
7th Mar '17 12:35:35 PM BatmanKalEl
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* ThouShaltNotKill: Gordon tells Batman to bring the Joker in alive to "show him that our way works." It's unclear if Batman obeys at the end.
** This is probably the leading reason why many fans initially thought this was an {{Elseworlds}}. The final page's fifth panel shows Batman holding the Joker in silhouette. It could be Batman holding himself up while laughing with the Joker, or it could be him reaching out to choke the Joker to death. The next panel shows the "camera" tilting down, so we know they're still facing each other and still laughing but we can't see any action. The last three panels show no laughter, only a siren. It is extremely easy to read this as an AmbiguousEnding where Batman strangles the Joker because this time he's gone too far.
*** Those claiming that the Joker is alive and well in later stories don't realize the story was never intended to be canon, and was a one-shot "what if?" story by Moore.

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* ThouShaltNotKill: Gordon tells Batman to bring the Joker in alive to "show him that our way works." It's unclear if Batman obeys at the end.
** This is probably the leading reason why many fans initially thought this was an {{Elseworlds}}. The final page's fifth panel shows Batman holding the Joker in silhouette. It could be Batman holding himself up while laughing with the Joker, or it could be him reaching out to choke the Joker to death. The next panel shows the "camera" tilting down, so we know they're still facing each other and still laughing but we can't see any action. The last three panels show no laughter, only a siren. It is extremely easy to read this as an AmbiguousEnding where Batman strangles the Joker because this time he's gone too far.
*** Those claiming that the Joker is alive and well in later stories don't realize the story was never intended to be canon, and was a one-shot "what if?" story by Moore.
3rd Oct '16 10:15:37 AM AnotherGuy
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** The 2008 twentieth-anniversary edition was completely recolored: new details such as [[EyeScream the Joker's eyes bleeding]] were added, the flashbacks were made DeliberatelyMonochrome, and the yellow oval around the Batman insignia was removed (bringing the costume into line with ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', which was heavily influenced by ''The Killing Joke''). Brian Bolland ''hated'' the original coloring, which is intentionally garish and jarring. He approved of the re-release on one condition: he had to be allowed to personally recolor it.

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** The 2008 twentieth-anniversary edition was completely recolored: new details such as [[EyeScream the Joker's eyes bleeding]] were added, the flashbacks were made DeliberatelyMonochrome, and the yellow oval around the Batman insignia was removed (bringing the costume into line with ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', which was heavily influenced by ''The Killing Joke''). Brian Bolland ''hated'' the original coloring, which is intentionally garish and jarring. He approved of the re-release on one condition: he had to be allowed to personally recolor it. However, critics of the re-release like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsz-FC8RrCU In Bob We Trust]] noted that making ''The Killing Joke'' look like every other grimdark modern comic book removed the one thing that set the issue apart from its contemporaries and imitators of today.
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