History ComicBook / TheKillingJoke

3rd Oct '16 10:15:37 AM AnotherGuy
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** The 2008 twentieth-anniversary edition was completely recolored: new details such as [[EyeScream the Joker's eyes bleeding]] were added, the flashbacks were made DeliberatelyMonochrome, and the yellow oval around the Batman insignia was removed (bringing the costume into line with ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', which was heavily influenced by ''The Killing Joke''). Brian Bolland ''hated'' the original coloring, which is intentionally garish and jarring. He approved of the re-release on one condition: he had to be allowed to personally recolor it.

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** The 2008 twentieth-anniversary edition was completely recolored: new details such as [[EyeScream the Joker's eyes bleeding]] were added, the flashbacks were made DeliberatelyMonochrome, and the yellow oval around the Batman insignia was removed (bringing the costume into line with ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', which was heavily influenced by ''The Killing Joke''). Brian Bolland ''hated'' the original coloring, which is intentionally garish and jarring. He approved of the re-release on one condition: he had to be allowed to personally recolor it. However, critics of the re-release like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsz-FC8RrCU In Bob We Trust]] noted that making ''The Killing Joke'' look like every other grimdark modern comic book removed the one thing that set the issue apart from its contemporaries and imitators of today.
3rd Oct '16 10:12:46 AM AnotherGuy
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*** Seeing as Joker is alive and well in later stories (i.e. Death In The Family) it's clear that Batman stuck to his moral code and didn't kill Joker.

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*** Seeing as Those claiming that the Joker is alive and well in later stories (i.e. Death In The Family) it's clear that Batman stuck don't realize the story was never intended to his moral code be canon, and didn't kill Joker.was a one-shot "what if?" story by Moore.
1st Oct '16 3:15:36 AM VVK
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* AmbiguousEnding: Brian Bolland discusses this in the Deluxe Edition, complete with TheUnreveal as he "runs out of words" just as he's supposedly about to explain it. [[spoiler: Batman and the Joker are both laughing at the Joker's last joke, and Batman reaches out to place his hands on the Joker's shoulders... That's the last we see of them, but the laughter cuts off abruptly. So did he finally kill him? At least we know that not canonically.]]

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* AmbiguousEnding: Brian Bolland discusses this in the Deluxe Edition, complete with TheUnreveal as he "runs out of words" just as he's supposedly about to explain it. [[spoiler: Batman and the Joker are both laughing at the Joker's last joke, and Batman reaches out to place his hands on the Joker's shoulders... That's the last we see of them, of what they're doing, but the laughter cuts off abruptly. So did he finally kill him? At least we know that not canonically.]]
1st Oct '16 3:14:48 AM VVK
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* AllThereInTheScript: The same script identifies the real estate agent as Mitchum, the two mobsters in the flashback as Vinnie and Joe, and Joker's three terrifying dwarf henchmen as Huey, Dewey, and Louie. Notably, Moore's script gives a name to a character who appears in exactly ''one'' panel of the comic - the man seen retching in Joker's maybe-flashback is deemed "Lester".

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* AllThereInTheScript: The same script identifies the real estate agent as Mitchum, the two mobsters in the flashback as Vinnie and Joe, and Joker's three terrifying dwarf henchmen as Huey, Dewey, and Louie. Notably, Moore's script gives a name to a character who appears in exactly ''one'' panel of the comic - -- the man seen retching in Joker's maybe-flashback is deemed "Lester".



* BangFlagGun: [[spoiler:Unlike most times, the Joker's gun turns into one when it's EMPTY. Either that, or he's simply unwilling to draw out the fight any longer.]]

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* AmbiguousEnding: Brian Bolland discusses this in the Deluxe Edition, complete with TheUnreveal as he "runs out of words" just as he's supposedly about to explain it. [[spoiler: Batman and the Joker are both laughing at the Joker's last joke, and Batman reaches out to place his hands on the Joker's shoulders... That's the last we see of them, but the laughter cuts off abruptly. So did he finally kill him? At least we know that not canonically.]]
* BangFlagGun: [[spoiler:Unlike most times, the Joker's gun turns into one when it's EMPTY. Either that, or he's simply unwilling to draw out the fight any longer.]]
1st Oct '16 3:05:25 AM VVK
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** The Batcave in its brief glimpse is comprised of elements from the Dick Sprang era namely a photograph featuring Bat-Mite who would otherwise not be welcome in such a story.

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** The Batcave in its brief glimpse is comprised of elements from the Dick Sprang era era, namely a photograph featuring Bat-Mite who would otherwise not be welcome in such a story.
1st Oct '16 3:04:35 AM VVK
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** Tragically, Joker was quite good at this prior to his bad day, but seemingly didn't use such jokes in his attempt to be a comedian, which probably contributed to his failure.
16th Aug '16 10:23:10 AM HighCrate
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: [[WordOfGod Alan Moore]] insists Joker didn't rape Barbara, though it certainly looks possible on a casual reading. Moore did [[AscendedFanon suggest]], in one interview, that it's possible to read Joker having three circus midgets strip Commissioner Gordon as implying ''his'' rape.
12th Aug '16 7:04:29 AM Silverblade2
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'''''The Killing Joke''''', first published in March 1988, written by Creator/AlanMoore and drawn by Brian Bolland, tells [[MultipleChoicePast one possible version]] of [[StartOfDarkness the story of how The Joker became The Joker]], while simultaneously telling how he paralyzed Barbara "Batgirl" Gordon.

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'''''The ''The Killing Joke''''', Joke'', first published in March 1988, written by Creator/AlanMoore and drawn by Brian Bolland, tells [[MultipleChoicePast one possible version]] of [[StartOfDarkness the story of how The Joker became The Joker]], while simultaneously telling how he paralyzed Barbara "Batgirl" Gordon.
7th Aug '16 7:50:17 PM JamesAustin
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-->-- '''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'''

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-->-- '''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'''
'''ComicBook/TheJoker'''



* PatrickStewartSpeech: Batman gives one to SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker in response to his "one bad day" monologue.

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* PatrickStewartSpeech: Batman gives one to SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker in response to his "one bad day" monologue.



* UnreliableNarrator: This trope goes hand-in-hand with MultipleChoicePast and is also one possible explanation for what actually happens at the end. This ''is'' SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker we're talking about, after all. For example, one hint of this is that in one frame, his pregnant wife gives an unnatural, very Joker-like grin.

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* UnreliableNarrator: This trope goes hand-in-hand with MultipleChoicePast and is also one possible explanation for what actually happens at the end. This ''is'' SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker we're talking about, after all. For example, one hint of this is that in one frame, his pregnant wife gives an unnatural, very Joker-like grin.



* [[WhenSheSmiles When He Smiles]]:

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* [[WhenSheSmiles When He Smiles]]:WhenSheSmiles:
7th Aug '16 5:54:54 PM nombretomado
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* {{Elseworlds}}: A number of fans believe Moore originally intended for the story to be a one-shot non-canon story and ExecutiveMeddling integrated it into TheDCU; it certainly would explain why Batman has a picture of Bat-Girl and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} on his desk. WordOfGod says ''The Killing Joke'' was always intended to be in continuity, however. It should also be noted that far in advance of the graphic novel's publication, Len Wein commissioned Barbara Kesel to do a Secret Origins issue and a one-shot Batgirl comic in order to tie-up any then-extant loose ends for the character.

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* {{Elseworlds}}: A number of fans believe Moore originally intended for the story to be a one-shot non-canon story and ExecutiveMeddling integrated it into TheDCU; Franchise/TheDCU; it certainly would explain why Batman has a picture of Bat-Girl and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} on his desk. WordOfGod says ''The Killing Joke'' was always intended to be in continuity, however. It should also be noted that far in advance of the graphic novel's publication, Len Wein commissioned Barbara Kesel to do a Secret Origins issue and a one-shot Batgirl comic in order to tie-up any then-extant loose ends for the character.
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