History ComicBook / Spawn

15th Mar '17 6:54:18 PM Omnicron13
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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God with the forces of Heaven and Satan with the forces of Hell to obtain ownership over human souls to serve in the eventual full scale war of Armageddon between Heaven and Hell that will destroy the world. Good or bad deeds have no weight when it comes to choosing which souls fight for Heaven or Hell since each side alternative picks a soul in a 50-50 split (first heaven, then hell) so neither sides gets an advantage. Quality of the souls in terms of who is better at war and can fight with more savagery is the deciding factor of victory that tips the scales which is why the souls of individuals such as Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun, and Jack the Ripper were heavily fought over. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.

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* CosmicChessGame: Lampshaded word for word in the story by various characters like Cogliostro and Mammon. Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God with the forces of Heaven and Satan with the forces of Hell to obtain ownership over human souls to serve in the eventual full scale war of Armageddon between Heaven and Hell that will destroy the world. Good or bad deeds have no weight when it comes to choosing which souls fight for Heaven or Hell since each side alternative picks a soul in a 50-50 split (first heaven, then hell) so neither sides gets an advantage. Quality of the souls in terms of who is better at war and can fight with more savagery is the deciding factor of victory that tips the scales which is why the souls of individuals such as Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun, and Jack the Ripper were heavily fought over. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.
9th Mar '17 7:01:05 PM Arawn999
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* GodAndSatanAreBothJerks: Oh yeah. Even their creator, The Mother of Existence, is disappointed with their petty rivalry since both of them are absolute monsters. Even when they're reincarnated as humans, forgetting their true memories, they show their true colors by violently attacking each other, torturing Wanda's hamster, trying to kill their mother Wanda, and otherwise causing all manner of havoc. Arguably averted given the nature of the Mother of Existence who is pretty much an over deity who is actively trying to help humanity, but even MOM refused to help stop Armageddon due to the event needing to happen according to rules that MOM created.

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* GodAndSatanAreBothJerks: Oh yeah. GodAndSatanAreBothJerks:
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Even their creator, The Mother of Existence, is disappointed with their petty rivalry since both of them are absolute monsters. Even when they're reincarnated as humans, forgetting their true memories, they show their true colors by violently attacking each other, torturing Wanda's hamster, trying to kill their mother Wanda, and otherwise causing all manner of havoc. Arguably averted given the nature of the Mother of Existence who is pretty much an over deity who is actively trying to help humanity, but even MOM refused to help stop Armageddon due to the event needing to happen according to rules that MOM created.
** After the retcon removing MOM from the continuity, God is not as much of a jerk as Satan, persuading Al Simmons to come back to life to save his wife's soul, providing him with a sword capable of permanently killing demons, and sending the Archangel Michel to help him out.



** ''Spawn: Resurrection'' is a ContinuityReboot of sorts that undoes most of what went on between Al defeating Malebolgia and his suicide: God is now good, the arcs involving the Man of Miracles never happened, and Al Simmons had a son who was stillborn (later revealed to be his humanity) rather than a daughter he aborted himself. Al being a wife beater probably counts too, considering it hadn't even been hinted at early on. It just got shoved into continuity at some point.

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** ''Spawn: Resurrection'' is a ContinuityReboot of sorts that undoes most of what went on between Al defeating Malebolgia and his suicide: God is now good, the arcs involving the Man of Miracles never happened, and Al Simmons had a son who was stillborn (later revealed to be his humanity) rather than a daughter he aborted himself.himself (later revealed to be his lost humanity). Al being a wife beater probably counts too, considering it hadn't even been hinted at early on. It just got shoved into continuity at some point.
9th Mar '17 4:13:16 PM Omnicron13
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* WretchedHive: Rat City. Filled with reprobates, prostitutes, mobsters, gangsters, drug dealers, murderers, crooked cops, and homeless people.
9th Mar '17 4:09:05 PM Omnicron13
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* GodAndSatanAreBothJerks: Oh yeah. Even The Creator of All is disappointed with their petty rivalry, and both of them are absolute monsters. Even when they're reincarnated as humans, forgetting their true memories, they show their true colors by violently attacking each other, torturing Wanda's hamster and otherwise causing all manner of havoc. Arguably averted given the nature of the Mother of Existence who is pretty much an over deity who is actively trying to help humanity.

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* GodAndSatanAreBothJerks: Oh yeah. Even their creator, The Creator Mother of All Existence, is disappointed with their petty rivalry, and rivalry since both of them are absolute monsters. Even when they're reincarnated as humans, forgetting their true memories, they show their true colors by violently attacking each other, torturing Wanda's hamster hamster, trying to kill their mother Wanda, and otherwise causing all manner of havoc. Arguably averted given the nature of the Mother of Existence who is pretty much an over deity who is actively trying to help humanity.humanity, but even MOM refused to help stop Armageddon due to the event needing to happen according to rules that MOM created.



* HorrifyingHero: Spawn is a HumanoidAbomination. What did you expect.

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* HorrifyingHero: Spawn is a HumanoidAbomination. What did you expect.expect?



** The demons of Hell are ObviouslyEvil, but {{God}} and the angels aren't exactly nice guys, either.

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** The demons of Hell are ObviouslyEvil, but {{God}} and the angels aren't exactly nice guys, either.guys either and are described as just as bad but only present a different image.
9th Mar '17 11:40:35 AM Omnicron13
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* BlackAndGrayMorality: Spawn's morality is questionable, but clearly better than Hell. WordOfGod says that heaven was made intentionally ambiguous. Their final agenda is good, but they recognize that to stand up to the forces of hell they have to recruit people capable of being just as ruthless. In the audio commentary of the TV show Todd [=McFarlane=] compared the ideal heaven and hell going to war as consisting of Atilla the Hun fighting church bingo ladies. The comic, paralleling this, confirmed that heaven had successfully recruited Atilla at some point (mostly to keep Hell from getting him).

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* BlackAndGrayMorality: Spawn's morality is questionable, but clearly better than Hell. WordOfGod says that heaven was made intentionally ambiguous. Their final agenda is good, but they recognize that to stand up to the forces of hell they have to recruit people capable of being just as ruthless. In the audio commentary of the TV show Todd [=McFarlane=] compared the ideal heaven and hell going to war as consisting of Atilla the Hun fighting church bingo ladies.ladies and salvation army volunteers. The comic, paralleling this, confirmed that heaven had successfully recruited Atilla at some point (mostly to keep Hell from getting him).
9th Mar '17 11:38:34 AM Omnicron13
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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God with the forces of Heaven and Satan with the forces of Hell to obtain ownership over human souls who prove to be the most formidable to serve in the eventual full scale war of Armageddon between Heaven and Hell that will destroy the world. Good or bad deeds have no weight when it comes to choosing which souls fight for Heaven or Hell since each side alternative picks a soul in a 50-50 split (first heaven, then hell) so neither sides gets an advantage. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.

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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God with the forces of Heaven and Satan with the forces of Hell to obtain ownership over human souls who prove to be the most formidable to serve in the eventual full scale war of Armageddon between Heaven and Hell that will destroy the world. Good or bad deeds have no weight when it comes to choosing which souls fight for Heaven or Hell since each side alternative picks a soul in a 50-50 split (first heaven, then hell) so neither sides gets an advantage. Quality of the souls in terms of who is better at war and can fight with more savagery is the deciding factor of victory that tips the scales which is why the souls of individuals such as Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun, and Jack the Ripper were heavily fought over. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.
9th Mar '17 11:34:17 AM Omnicron13
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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God with the forces of Heaven and Satan with the forces of Hell to obtain ownership over human souls who prove to be the most formidable to serve in the eventual full scale war of Armageddon between Heaven and Hell that will destroy the world. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.

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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God with the forces of Heaven and Satan with the forces of Hell to obtain ownership over human souls who prove to be the most formidable to serve in the eventual full scale war of Armageddon between Heaven and Hell that will destroy the world. Good or bad deeds have no weight when it comes to choosing which souls fight for Heaven or Hell since each side alternative picks a soul in a 50-50 split (first heaven, then hell) so neither sides gets an advantage. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.
9th Mar '17 11:23:55 AM Omnicron13
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* ReligiousHorror: The story of Spawn follows conventional Christian stories except it shows that God and Satan are actually using human souls as proxies and pawns in a Cold War that will build up to Armageddon and that the morality of those souls has no significance whatsoever. Demons from Hell ritually come to attack or torment Spawn by coming to Earth to torment his loved ones or kill loads of civilians and the angels are displayed as being just as if not more immoral.

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* ReligiousHorror: The story of Spawn follows conventional Christian stories except it shows that God and Satan are actually using human souls as proxies and pawns in a Cold War that will build up to Armageddon and that the morality of those souls has no significance whatsoever. Demons from Hell ritually come to attack or torment Spawn by coming to Earth to torment his loved ones or kill loads of civilians and the angels Angels from Heaven are displayed as being just as if not more immoral.
9th Mar '17 11:19:06 AM Omnicron13
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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God and Satan to obtain ownership over human souls who prove to be the most formidable to serve in the eventual full scale war between Heaven and Hell. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.

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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God with the forces of Heaven and Satan with the forces of Hell to obtain ownership over human souls who prove to be the most formidable to serve in the eventual full scale war of Armageddon between Heaven and Hell.Hell that will destroy the world. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.


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* ReligiousHorror: The story of Spawn follows conventional Christian stories except it shows that God and Satan are actually using human souls as proxies and pawns in a Cold War that will build up to Armageddon and that the morality of those souls has no significance whatsoever. Demons from Hell ritually come to attack or torment Spawn by coming to Earth to torment his loved ones or kill loads of civilians and the angels are displayed as being just as if not more immoral.
9th Mar '17 11:09:59 AM Omnicron13
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* CosmicChessGame: Much of the story of the series is based on a cosmic Cold War between God and Satan to obtain ownership over human souls who prove to be the most formidable to serve in the eventual full scale war between Heaven and Hell. Spawn himself was seen as the greatest of such souls due to his love of killing and vicious combat skills, which is why Hell made him a Hellspawn in an attempt to gain ownership over him.
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