History ComicBook / RedHoodAndTheOutLaws

28th Feb '18 2:36:23 PM Tzitzimine
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** As far as Roy and Starfire are concerned, most of their backstory and time spent with Jason has been tossed out with Comicbook/DCRebirth, to much [[CharacterRerailment fan acclaim]].



** Jason tells Pyg that they had never met "in this continuity", effectively retconning their previous encounter in Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal.
28th Feb '18 12:12:27 PM Hello9876
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* CanonDiscontinuity: Jason's New 52 origin and death being the manipulations of the Joker have been retconned back to his original backstory of stealing tires off the Batmobile.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: CanonDiscontinuity:
** As far as Roy and Starfire are concerned, most of their backstory and time spent with Jason has been tossed out with Comicbook/DCRebirth, to much [[CharacterRerailment fan acclaim]].
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Jason's New 52 origin and death being the manipulations of the Joker have been retconned back to his original backstory of stealing tires off the Batmobile.Batmobile.
** Jason tells Pyg that they had never met "in this continuity", effectively retconning their previous encounter in Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal.
28th Feb '18 8:27:55 AM Tzitzimine
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* CanonDiscontinuity:
** As far as Roy and Starfire are concerned, most of their backstory and time spent with Jason has been tossed out with Comicbook/DCRebirth, to much [[CharacterRerailment fan acclaim]].
** Jason's New 52 origin and death being the manipulations of the Joker have been retconned back to his original backstory of stealing tires off the Batmobile.
** Jason tells Pyg that they had never met "in this continuity", effectively retconning their previous encounter in Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal.

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* CanonDiscontinuity:
** As far
BatmanGambit: The Bizarro Reborn arc can be summed up as Roy and Starfire are concerned, most of their backstory and time spent one, with Jason has been tossed out with Comicbook/DCRebirth, Bizarro setting in motion a chain of events to much [[CharacterRerailment fan acclaim]].
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allow him getting hold of Harvest's Synthetic Kryptonite reserves.
* CanonDiscontinuity:
Jason's New 52 origin and death being the manipulations of the Joker have been retconned back to his original backstory of stealing tires off the Batmobile.
** Jason tells Pyg that they had never met "in this continuity", effectively retconning their previous encounter in Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal.
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* DistractedByTheSexy: Jason becomes speechless and has trouble forming coherent sentences after seeing Artemis all dressed up for their date.
* FantasticDrug: Synthetic Kryptonite becomes this for Bizarro, sending him into paranoia and causing him to have hallucinations of an animated stuffed doll playing the role of his conscience.
* FlowersForAlgernonSyndrome: Bizarro finds himself suffering of one as a side effect of being exposed to Kryptonite to save his life.



* InformedAttribute: Jason monologues that he can do what Batman can't (which would be a better descriptor of his pre-Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} characterization, but spends most of the end of the first arc angsting over following Batman's rules.

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* InformedAttribute: Jason monologues that he can do what Batman can't (which would be a better descriptor of his pre-Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} characterization, but spends most The basis of the end of series is Jason infiltrating Gotham underworld and pose as a criminal Overlord to take it down from the first arc angsting over following Batman's rules.inside but the series itself hasn't shown Jason doing anything remotely criminal, instead relying on dialogue to sell the idea Jason as an undercover agent.


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* NotADate: Artemis takes out Jason under the pretense of having a date in issue #19 but she only wanted to have a private talk with Jason about Bizarro. Jason was disappointed when he realized Artemis plans.


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* StalkerWithoutACrush: A new character named Solitary introduces himself as being the one responsible of bringing this iteration of the Outlaws together and showing extensive knowledge of their activities in issue 19.
* ShiftingVoiceOfMadness: Bizarro slips into using his regular "Bizarro-speak" or regular speech at random times as the side effects of being exposed to Kryptonite start to wear off.
27th Feb '18 11:53:26 PM Hello9876
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* {{Flanderization}}:
** While Jason's pre-Flashpoint self used guns as a means to an end, the New 52 and Rebirth version seems to be [[GunNut obsessed with them]], flashing them out in every instance, whether he's looking to kill or not. This is usually accompanied by him either narrating that he's using rubber bullets or taking nonlethal shots, or by loudly boasting about all the upgrades he's made to his guns.
** His grudge against Batman has devolved from opposition to his nonlethal philosophy on fighting crime, to desperately seeking out [[WellDoneSonGuy his approval]]. As of Rebirth, this attitude has extended towards Nightwing as well.


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* CanonDiscontinuity:
** As far as Roy and Starfire are concerned, most of their backstory and time spent with Jason has been tossed out with Comicbook/DCRebirth, to much [[CharacterRerailment fan acclaim]].
** Jason's New 52 origin and death being the manipulations of the Joker have been retconned back to his original backstory of stealing tires off the Batmobile.
** Jason tells Pyg that they had never met "in this continuity", effectively retconning their previous encounter in Comicbook/RedHoodArsenal.
24th Feb '18 6:39:51 PM DanielBenner8891
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* BigNO!: Starfire has one when Blackfire is almost killed during the fight with Helspont.
19th Nov '17 2:14:36 PM Tzitzimine
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* ArtShift: Due the series having artists with pretty distinctive artstyles, guest characters tend to look differently to the way they look on their own series. This goes both ways, with the Outlaws looking differently when appearing in other books.
19th Nov '17 1:27:38 PM Tzitzimine
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* BrokenBird: How many readers see Starfire. It's not certain at this point if this was Lobdell's intention. She gets really snippy and hostile whenever anyone tries to talk to her about her past, and we eventually find out that her most precious memory is [[spoiler:killing the only Citadel member who showed her sympathy in all her time as a slave. It's even lampshaded how screwed up the team must be.]]

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* BrokenBird: How many readers see Starfire. It's not certain at this point if this was Lobdell's intention.take on Starfire. She gets really snippy and hostile whenever anyone tries to talk to her about her past, and we eventually find out that her most precious memory is [[spoiler:killing the only Citadel member who showed her sympathy in all her time as a slave. It's even lampshaded how screwed up the team must be.]]


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** Jason's helmet changes wildly between all of his appearances, sometimes within the same issue. It can go from smooth, featureless helmet to an expressive mask to everything in between.
19th Nov '17 8:53:16 AM Tzitzimine
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* CanonDiscontinuity: As far as Roy and Starfire are concerned, most of their backstory and time spent with Jason has been tossed out with Comicbook/DCRebirth, to much [[CharacterRerailment fan acclaim]].



** Issue #2, Red Hood gets an air hostess' number. They met in Batman #426, 20 years ago. She still remembers his drink order, although in modern continuity, they probably met 2-3 years ago. And he mentions 'A Death in the Family', although that is a ShoutOut. Her name is Isabel Ardila, by the way.
** In issue #6, it's revealed that Red Hood's costume is actually one of Nightwing's old costumes. Though in-universe information is lacking thanks to the recent reboot, it seems to be based on Nightwing's ''Renegade'' costume.
** The ''Night of the Owls'' tie-in nods to the revelation in ''Batman'' that[[spoiler: Haley's Circus (of which Nightwing was a performer) was a recruitment service for the Court of Owls. It may also be a reference to Red Hood's pre-''Crisis'' history as a circus performer.]]
** The ''Death of the Family'' tie-in has [[spoiler:the Joker forcing Jason to relive the circumstances of his death in the original ''ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily'' arc.]]
** As is expected of ComicBook/DCRebirth, the second ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'' brings back several of Jason's post-Crisis origin elements like his first meeting with Batman by (attempting to) steal the Batmobile's tires, as well as Jason's time under the care of Ma Gunn.

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** **For Volume 1:
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Issue #2, Red Hood gets an air hostess' number. They met in Batman #426, 20 years ago. She still remembers his drink order, although in modern continuity, they probably met 2-3 years ago. And he mentions 'A Death in the Family', although that is a ShoutOut. Her name is Isabel Ardila, by the way.
** *** In issue #6, it's revealed that Red Hood's costume is actually one of Nightwing's old costumes. Though in-universe information is lacking thanks to the recent reboot, it seems to be based on Nightwing's ''Renegade'' costume.
** *** The ''Night of the Owls'' tie-in nods to the revelation in ''Batman'' that[[spoiler: Haley's Circus (of which Nightwing was a performer) was a recruitment service for the Court of Owls. It may also be a reference to Red Hood's pre-''Crisis'' history as a circus performer.]]
** *** The ''Death of the Family'' tie-in has [[spoiler:the Joker forcing Jason to relive the circumstances of his death in the original ''ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily'' arc.]]
** **For Volume 2:
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As is expected of ComicBook/DCRebirth, the second ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'' brings back several of Jason's post-Crisis origin elements like his first meeting with Batman by (attempting to) steal the Batmobile's tires, as well as Jason's time under the care of Ma Gunn.Gunn.
*** Issue #8 shows a newscast that played during ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'' #951, indicating the two issues are happening concurrently.
*** Bizarro's origin is directly tied to the events of ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''.
*** Issue #9 has Jason acknowledging his time with Roy and Kori.
*** Jason uses the All-Blades and alludes to the All-Caste in issue #11.
*** Issues #16 and #17 have the Outlaws and the Suicide Squad travelling to the Colony, where the events of [[ComicBook/New52 The Culling]] took place. These issues also have Jason and Killer Croc on speaking terms due their common friendship with Roy.



* ContinuityNod:
** Issue #8 shows a newscast that played during ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'' #951, indicating the two issues are happening concurrently.
** Bizarro's origin is directly tied to the events of ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil''.
** Issue #9 has Jason acknowledging his time with Roy and Kori.
** Jason uses the All-Blades and alludes to the All-Caste in issue #11.
** Issues #16 and #17 have the Outlaws and the Suicide Squad travelling to the Colony, where the events of the Culling took place. These issues also have Jason and Killer Croc on speaking terms due their common friendship with Roy.
19th Nov '17 8:43:18 AM Tzitzimine
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** Some occurs with the guest appearance of the Knights in issue #15. For example, Batwoman's chest logo is rendered inconsistently (both compared to its usual look and from panel-to-panel) and her wig is colored a more natural-looking dark orange than the usual bright red.
19th Nov '17 12:41:40 AM caivu
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** They temporally used Ma Gunn's Home for the Criminally Impaired as one.

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** They temporally temporarily used Ma Gunn's Home for the Criminally Impaired as one.



** Some occurs with the guest appearance of the Knights in issue #15. For example, Batwoman's chest logo is rendered inconsistently both compared to its usual look and from panel-to-panel, and her wig is colored a more natural-looking dark orange than the usual bright red.

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** Some occurs with the guest appearance of the Knights in issue #15. For example, Batwoman's chest logo is rendered inconsistently both (both compared to its usual look and from panel-to-panel, panel-to-panel) and her wig is colored a more natural-looking dark orange than the usual bright red.
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