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21st Sep '17 3:06:26 AM Uyyy
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* TooSpicyForYogSothoth: Inverted.[[note]]Not Crunchy Enough for Yog Sothoth?[[/note]] Mephisto claims he doesn't like to buy people's souls if it's part of a HeroicSacrifice, because those souls "suffer righteously", which is really no fun. Hence why he asks for the Parkers' marriage instead.
4th Sep '17 2:56:49 PM Robbyn
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* CosmicRetcon: Peter makes a DealWithTheDevil to erase his marriage with Mary Jane in exchange for saving his Aunt May's life. The entire purpose of this arc was to retcon the Spidey marriage.



* {{Retcon}}: Of course OMD is obviously a huge one, but OMIT applied a retcon to OMD. Remember how '''both''' Peter and Mary Jane had to agree with Mephisto's deal... O.M.I.T has gone out of its way to retcon it into Mary Jane making the deal despite Peter's objection. ANd then several later comics imply O;M.I.T never happened, retconning ''that'' retcon!
* ShaggyDogStory: Thanks to ''ComicBook/OneMomentInTime'', the entire arc gets turned into this. Seeing how later writers regard or disregard O.M.I.T as they please, this may or may not be the case.

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* {{Retcon}}: Of course OMD is obviously a huge one, but OMIT applied a retcon to OMD. Remember how '''both''' Peter and Mary Jane had to agree with Mephisto's deal... O.M.I.T has gone out of its way to retcon it into Mary Jane making the deal despite Peter's objection. ANd then several later comics imply O;M.I.T never happened, retconning ''that'' retcon!
* ShaggyDogStory: Thanks to ''ComicBook/OneMomentInTime'', OMIT, the entire arc gets turned into this. Seeing how later writers regard or disregard O.M.I.T as they please, this may or may not be the case. this.



* SuperheroesStaySingle: No matter what!

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* SuperheroesStaySingle: No matter what!This was the mentality behind the destruction of Peter and Mary Jane relationship. Quesada has actually stated that certain characters like Spider-Man are "more interesting" without their wives.



* TrueLoveIsBoring: See above.



** ''ComicBook/OneMomentInTime'' eventually explains / retcons what actually happened- Mephisto made it so that they were never married, and Doctor Strange wiped the memory of everyone on Earth so that nobody knows Peter is Spider-Man, not even guys like Venom or the Green Goblin who knew who his SecretIdentity before he revealed to the world in ''Civil War''. Aunt May survived because Peter [[AssPull figured out a way to save her on his own]] (which WordOfGod states would have happened even ''without'' the Mephisto deal, so Mephisto didn't even give them anything). And random ''ComicBook/BrandNewDay'' stuff like Harry Osborn now being alive has been explained as DeathFakedForYou- ie. much like Aunt May, he survived without interference from Mephisto, and was NotQuiteDead the whole canon time. Mephisto rewriting history also means that [[TimeyWimeyBall they never made a deal with Mephisto in the first place.]] About the only effect of his deal, then, is that Peter and Mary-Jane were never married- as in, they ''lived together'' and everything in Spidey's history happened exactly as it always did; they just chose not to make their love "official" by getting hitched. And for some reason they broke up off-panel after the events of this story.

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** ''ComicBook/OneMomentInTime'' ''OMIT'' eventually explains / retcons what actually happened- Mephisto made it so that they were never married, and Doctor Strange wiped the memory of everyone on Earth so that nobody knows Peter is Spider-Man, not even guys like Venom or the Green Goblin who knew who his SecretIdentity before he revealed to the world in ''Civil War''. Aunt May survived because Peter [[AssPull figured out a way to save her on his own]] (which WordOfGod states would have happened even ''without'' the Mephisto deal, so Mephisto didn't even give them anything). And random ''ComicBook/BrandNewDay'' stuff like Harry Osborn now being alive has been explained as DeathFakedForYou- ie. much like Aunt May, he survived without interference from Mephisto, and was NotQuiteDead the whole canon time. Mephisto rewriting history also means that [[TimeyWimeyBall they never made a deal with Mephisto in the first place.]] About the only effect of his deal, then, is that Peter and Mary-Jane were never married- as in, they ''lived together'' and everything in Spidey's history happened exactly as it always did; they just chose not to make their love "official" by getting hitched. And for some reason they broke up off-panel after the events of this story.
4th Sep '17 2:39:15 PM Tropetastic1995
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* {{Retcon}}: Of course OMD is obviously a huge one, but OMIT applied a retcon to OMD. Remember how '''both''' Peter and Mary Jane had to agree with Mephisto's deal... O.M.I.T has gone out of its way to retcon it into Mary Jane making the deal despite Peter's objection.
* ShaggyDogStory: Thanks to ''ComicBook/OneMomentInTime'', the entire arc gets turned into this.

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* {{Retcon}}: Of course OMD is obviously a huge one, but OMIT applied a retcon to OMD. Remember how '''both''' Peter and Mary Jane had to agree with Mephisto's deal... O.M.I.T has gone out of its way to retcon it into Mary Jane making the deal despite Peter's objection.
objection. ANd then several later comics imply O;M.I.T never happened, retconning ''that'' retcon!
* ShaggyDogStory: Thanks to ''ComicBook/OneMomentInTime'', the entire arc gets turned into this. Seeing how later writers regard or disregard O.M.I.T as they please, this may or may not be the case.
3rd Sep '17 4:28:15 PM lalaTKG
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* FantasticAesop: The story is essentially a result of Quesada wanting to split up Mary Jane and Peter, but at the same time don't wanting to imply a "divorce is okay" aesop. Apparently, he was just fine with implying the impossible "making deals with the devil is okay".

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* FantasticAesop: The story is essentially a result of Quesada wanting to split up Mary Jane and Peter, but at the same time don't wanting didn't want to imply a "divorce is okay" aesop. Apparently, he was just fine with implying the impossible "making deals with the devil is okay".
2nd Jun '17 2:47:19 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* IdiotBall: Again, just about everyone who appears, exception being Aunt May, though likely only because she's comatose.



* InSpiteOfANail: One would think that the nonexistence of the marriage would at least have changed the outcome some of the plotlines in the Spider-Man continuity. Whatever impact that was, however, doesn't seem to have been very drastic. This has less to do with the marriage not having an impact on the continuity, but the creators merely not wanting to explore the changes. It's much harder to rationalize that the marriage didn't have an impact if you can just say that the stories wouldn't have changed, and just leave it at that. Or just that the marriage was all Joe wanted to retcon.



* IdiotBall: Again, just about everyone who appears, exception being Aunt May, though likely only because she's comatose.
* InSpiteOfANail: One would think that the nonexistence of the marriage would at least have changed the outcome some of the plotlines in the Spider-Man continuity. Whatever impact that was, however, doesn't seem to have been very drastic. This has less to do with the marriage not having an impact on the continuity, but the creators merely not wanting to explore the changes. It's much harder to rationalize that the marriage didn't have an impact if you can just say that the stories wouldn't have changed, and just leave it at that. Or just that the marriage was all Joe wanted to retcon.
17th May '17 1:54:26 PM ImaginaryMetroid
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* ReedRichardsIsUseless: FridgeLogic mixed with IdiotBall. So you mean to tell us that Reed Richards (and Tony Stark, and Hank Pym...) is somehow now unable to heal a gunshot wound? ''Really?'' Not just Richards, but ''every'' scientific mind and mystic in the Marvel universe is unable to heal Aunt May. Hell, not even Elixir of the ComicBook/NewXMen can help, and his sole power? ''Healing people''. And not ''just'' healing people -- [[GreenLanternRing it's controlling every cell in your body]]. '''From a distance.''' Elixir healed a guy after the dude's heart was ''torn out''. Something that, logically, should have been instantly fatal... May was just shot... By a bullet. That didn't kill her instantly. There is no reason such a wound should be beyond his power. Elixir could literally have revived May over the phone. Oh, but there's more, much more. Peter goes to Dr. Strange first... Dr. Strange who can literally make Gods, omnipotent beings from other universes like the Outer Gods, do his bidding by just '''saying so'''. Dr. Strange said he couldn't heal Aunt May. Dr. Strange, who can summon Gods and omnipotents at will, who is in personal direct contact with a pantheon of beings whose entire ''purpose'' is being nice guys and helping humans, could not heal a simple gunshot wound (also: He's a surgeon). He even went to ''Doctor Doom'' for help. Sure, he would probably just turned her into a Doombot and had a huge string attached, but do you honestly think that would have stopped him for an instant, given who he ''did'' deal with? There are no words to describe how hard someone has to '''try''' and fuck up this badly. And just to hammer the point home, some of those selfsame people that were useless when it came to gunshots were able to pull LaserGuidedAmnesia out of their rears in ''One Moment In Time''. And CPR manages to save Aunt May, even though between Peter's super strength should have crushed her, and CPR onto a person with an open or barely stitched wound would pump the blood out. Possibly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] by the fact that {{God}} appeared to Peter and told him to be with Aunt May as she passed on; it was simply her time to go, she had accepted this, and maybe, on some level deep down, ''they'' felt that. Somewhat HandWaved by explaining it was her time, or fate, to die at this point meaning not even time travel could prevent it. See YouCantFightFate.

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* ReedRichardsIsUseless: FridgeLogic mixed with IdiotBall. So you mean to tell us that Reed Richards (and Tony Stark, and Hank Pym...) is somehow now unable to heal a gunshot wound? ''Really?'' Not just Richards, but ''every'' scientific mind and mystic in the Marvel universe is unable to heal Aunt May. Hell, not even Elixir of the ComicBook/NewXMen can can't help, and his sole power? ''Healing people''. And not ''just'' healing people -- [[GreenLanternRing it's controlling every cell in your body]]. '''From a distance.''' Elixir healed a guy after the dude's heart was ''torn out''. Something that, logically, should have been instantly fatal... May was just shot... By a bullet. That didn't kill her instantly. There is no reason such a wound should be beyond his power. Elixir could literally have revived May over the phone. Oh, but there's more, much more. Peter goes to Dr. Strange first... Dr. Strange who can literally make Gods, omnipotent beings from other universes like the Outer Gods, do his bidding by just '''saying so'''. Dr. Strange said he couldn't heal Aunt May. Dr. Strange, who can summon Gods and omnipotents at will, who is in personal direct contact with a pantheon of beings whose entire ''purpose'' is being nice guys and helping humans, could not heal a simple gunshot wound (also: He's a surgeon). He even went to ''Doctor Doom'' for help. Sure, he would probably just turned her into a Doombot and had a huge string attached, but do you honestly think that would have stopped him for an instant, given who he ''did'' deal with? There are no words to describe how hard someone has to '''try''' and fuck up this badly. And just to hammer the point home, some of those selfsame people that were useless when it came to gunshots were able to pull LaserGuidedAmnesia out of their rears in ''One Moment In Time''. And CPR manages to save Aunt May, even though between Peter's super strength should have crushed her, and CPR onto a person with an open or barely stitched wound would pump the blood out. Possibly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] by the fact that {{God}} appeared to Peter and told him to be with Aunt May as she passed on; it was simply her time to go, she had accepted this, and maybe, on some level deep down, ''they'' felt that. Somewhat HandWaved by explaining it was her time, or fate, to die at this point meaning not even time travel could prevent it. See YouCantFightFate.
17th May '17 1:49:57 PM ImaginaryMetroid
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* IdiotBall: Again, just about everyone who appears, exception being Aunt May.

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* IdiotBall: Again, just about everyone who appears, exception being Aunt May.May, though likely only because she's comatose.
23rd Apr '17 9:04:54 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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However, things aren't necessarily set in stone for the couple. The ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' event has a follow-up to this story called ''[[ComicBook/RenewYourVows Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows]]''. The story features an alternate version of Peter Parker who remained married to Mary Jane, and tells the story of how they raise their daughter, Annie. This version of the character first appeared in the ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', however fleetingly. Given that each series in ''Secret Wars'' was stated to have an impact on the "All-New Marvel" line, many were hoping that the two will end up together again in the new continuity. While it didn't continue in ''ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'', [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/11/scoop-gerry-conway-and-ryan-stegman-revisit-renew-your-vows-for-marvel-now/ it will be continued]] in ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016''.

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However, things aren't necessarily set in stone for the couple. The ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' event has a follow-up to this story called ''[[ComicBook/RenewYourVows Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows]]''. The story features an alternate version of Peter Parker who remained married to Mary Jane, and tells the story of how they raise their daughter, Annie. This version of the character first appeared in the ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', however fleetingly. Given that each series in ''Secret Wars'' was stated to have an impact on the "All-New Marvel" line, many were hoping that the two will end up together again in the new continuity. While it didn't continue in ''ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'', [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/11/scoop-gerry-conway-and-ryan-stegman-revisit-renew-your-vows-for-marvel-now/ it will be continued]] in ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016''.''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' as an alternate universe comic.
19th Mar '17 2:47:30 AM jormis29
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However, things aren't necessarily set in stone for the couple. The ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' event has a follow-up to this story called ''Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows''. The story features an alternate version of Peter Parker who remained married to Mary Jane, and tells the story of how they raise their daughter, Annie. This version of the character first appeared in the ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', however fleetingly. Given that each series in ''Secret Wars'' was stated to have an impact on the "All-New Marvel" line, many were hoping that the two will end up together again in the new continuity. While it didn't continue in ''ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'', [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/11/scoop-gerry-conway-and-ryan-stegman-revisit-renew-your-vows-for-marvel-now/ it will be continued]] in ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016''.

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However, things aren't necessarily set in stone for the couple. The ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' event has a follow-up to this story called ''Spider-Man: ''[[ComicBook/RenewYourVows Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows''.Vows]]''. The story features an alternate version of Peter Parker who remained married to Mary Jane, and tells the story of how they raise their daughter, Annie. This version of the character first appeared in the ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', however fleetingly. Given that each series in ''Secret Wars'' was stated to have an impact on the "All-New Marvel" line, many were hoping that the two will end up together again in the new continuity. While it didn't continue in ''ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'', [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/11/scoop-gerry-conway-and-ryan-stegman-revisit-renew-your-vows-for-marvel-now/ it will be continued]] in ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016''.
20th Feb '17 8:21:25 AM GrigorII
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Parker asked Stark to pay for May's medical treatment, or... or what? Parker, you're in no position to make threats! No, the "or..." was not an "OR ELSE" threat. It was "or else my aunt is going to die in some charity ward somewhere. Is that what you really want, Tony? Is it?"
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