History ComicBook / Nightwing

9th Aug '17 11:44:15 AM AnotherGuy
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* {{Foil}}: To ComicBook/RedHood. Dick became a {{Batman}}-expy identity formerly held by ComicBook/{{Superman}}, while Jason became the former identity of ComicBook/TheJoker.
6th Aug '17 3:11:56 PM StrangeThoughts
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* ''Nightwing'' (TBA) (The titular hero is set to make his live-action movie debut headlining his own movie in the Film/DCExtendedUniverse. Other than being directed by [[Film/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Chris McKay]], nothing else is currently known about the movie.

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* ''Nightwing'' (TBA) (The titular hero is set to make his live-action movie debut headlining his own movie in the Film/DCExtendedUniverse. Other than being directed by [[Film/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Chris McKay]], nothing else is currently known about the movie.
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6th Aug '17 3:06:50 PM StrangeThoughts
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Nightwing is set to headline his own solo live-action movie as part of the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, titled ''Nightwing''. It's planned release date isn't currently known.


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* ''Nightwing'' (TBA) (The titular hero is set to make his live-action movie debut headlining his own movie in the Film/DCExtendedUniverse. Other than being directed by [[Film/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Chris McKay]], nothing else is currently known about the movie.
6th Aug '17 1:18:26 AM StrangeThoughts
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Nightwing is set to headline his own solo live-action movie as part of the Film/DCExtendedUniverse, titled ''Nightwing''. It's planned release date isn't currently known.
19th Jun '17 9:54:10 AM NightShade96
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* WritersCannotDoMath: The TropeCodefier for the DC Universe, as Dick Grayson's age pins down everyone else's in canon:
** Canonically, Dick Grayson becomes Robin at [[AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder age 12]], after his parents' deaths. This means Batman himself is around 10-15 years older, depending on the source material, such as how long Batman's training takes and how much time elapses between Batman's debut and Robin's.

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* WritersCannotDoMath: The TropeCodefier TropeCodifier for the DC Universe, as Dick Grayson's age pins down everyone else's in canon:
** Canonically, Dick Grayson becomes Robin at [[AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder [[ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder age 12]], after his parents' deaths. This means Batman himself is around 10-15 years older, depending on the source material, such as how long Batman's training takes and how much time elapses between Batman's debut and Robin's.



*** Before New52, Dick is one of the founding members of the TeenTitans, which means each of the other five founding members (Aqualad/Tempest, Kid Flash/Flash/Wally West I, Speedy/Arsenal/Red Arrow/Roy Harper, and Donna Troy/Wonder Girl/Troia) are around his age. This is especially problematic, as Donna Troy's ongoing ContinuitySnarl also means she and Wonder Woman debuted far more recently in the storyline than this would allow. Retconned by New52, however.

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*** Before New52, the ComicBook/New52, Dick is one of the founding members of the TeenTitans, which means each of the other five founding members (Aqualad/Tempest, Kid Flash/Flash/Wally West I, Speedy/Arsenal/Red Arrow/Roy Harper, and Donna Troy/Wonder Girl/Troia) are around his age. This is especially problematic, as Donna Troy's ongoing ContinuitySnarl also means she and Wonder Woman debuted far more recently in the storyline than this would allow. Retconned by New52, however.
19th Jun '17 6:15:31 AM Tenma-Yuuki
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* AudienceSurrogateAudienceSurrogate: Perhaps the greatest. One reason he's so popular is that fans want to ''be'' him.
19th Jun '17 5:31:00 AM DeathToTVTropes
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* AudienceSurrogate: Perhaps the greatest. One reason he's so popular is that fans want to ''be'' him.

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* AudienceSurrogate: Perhaps the greatest. One reason he's so popular is that fans want to ''be'' him.AudienceSurrogate
10th Jun '17 6:44:39 PM ThallianGold
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*** Similarly, Green Arrow adopts Roy Harper as his sidekick, Speedy, who is also a little younger than Grayson but older than Jason Todd. Speedy then goes on to have a brief affair with Titans villain Chesire, producing their daughter, Lian Harper, who was canonically 8-10 at the time of [[CryForJustice her death]]. Since retconned away and back, this means that Cheshire and Harper would have to meet almost immediately following the founding of the Titans, and charitably when Roy was around 13 -- making [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Cheshire a child molester]] as well as a terrorist.

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*** Similarly, Green Arrow adopts Roy Harper as his sidekick, Speedy, who is also a little younger than Grayson but older than Jason Todd. Speedy then goes on to have a brief affair with Titans villain Chesire, producing their daughter, Lian Harper, who was canonically 8-10 5 at the time of [[CryForJustice her death]]. Since retconned away and back, this means that Cheshire and Harper would have to meet almost immediately following the founding of the Titans, and charitably when Roy was around 13 14 -- making [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Cheshire a child molester]] as well as a terrorist.
10th Jun '17 6:17:04 PM ThallianGold
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* WritersCannotDoMath: The TropeCodefier for the DC Universe, as Dick Grayson's age pins down everyone else's in canon:
** Canonically, Dick Grayson becomes Robin at [[AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder age 12]], after his parents' deaths. This means Batman himself is around 10-15 years older, depending on the source material, such as how long Batman's training takes and how much time elapses between Batman's debut and Robin's.
*** Jason Todd is a couple years younger, but still old enough to plausibly pass as someone Nightwing's age, [[ShapedLikeItself given he's impersonated Nightwing.]] Tim Drake is a couple years younger still (remembering the Flying Graysons and noticing Batman's slow slide into decay following Todd's death]], and Damien Wayne still younger, but old enough to place Bruce's relationship with Talia at over ten years old.
*** Before New52, Dick is one of the founding members of the TeenTitans, which means each of the other five founding members (Aqualad/Tempest, Kid Flash/Flash/Wally West I, Speedy/Arsenal/Red Arrow/Roy Harper, and Donna Troy/Wonder Girl/Troia) are around his age. This is especially problematic, as Donna Troy's ongoing ContinuitySnarl also means she and Wonder Woman debuted far more recently in the storyline than this would allow. Retconned by New52, however.
** In his late teens, Grayson abandons his Robin identity to become Nightwing, which in turn made DC retcon Tim Drake into never being a proper Robin, as the timeline would have to involve Wayne losing and gaining the post-Grayson Robins too quickly, roughly one per every year and a half since Grayson abdicated, but does nothing to explain how Wayne and Todd in particular got so complicated in such a short time.
** Per the Grayson comic, Dick abandons his Nightwing persona at then-current age 22, implying Batman is somewhere around 32-37. This ignores characters explicitly inspired by both characters, however.
*** Green Arrow is expressly in-universe [[FollowTheLeader copying Batman]], and comes along a couple of years later, notably already being somewhat experienced when Arrow is the first new member of the JusticeLeague. Green Arrow is also canonically over 40, despite also being canonically younger than Batman.
*** Similarly, Green Arrow adopts Roy Harper as his sidekick, Speedy, who is also a little younger than Grayson but older than Jason Todd. Speedy then goes on to have a brief affair with Titans villain Chesire, producing their daughter, Lian Harper, who was canonically 8-10 at the time of [[CryForJustice her death]]. Since retconned away and back, this means that Cheshire and Harper would have to meet almost immediately following the founding of the Titans, and charitably when Roy was around 13 -- making [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Cheshire a child molester]] as well as a terrorist.
9th Jun '17 12:15:58 PM darkemyst
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* AccidentalPornomancer: This one is a case of DependingOnTheWriter, though. Dick is a ChivalrousPervert, but sometimes, he [[IDidntMeanToTurnYouOn isn't actively trying to seduce a woman]], but does so anyway. It's usually left for interpretation whether his confusion is sincere or if he's ObfuscatingStupidity.
** Him being a ChivalrousPervert at all is ''very'' [[DependingOnTheWriter Depending on the Writer]]. Much of the time, he's written as a [[UrbanLegendLoveLife Chaste Flirt]] more than anything else.
* AloofBigBrother: To Jason.
* AnimalThemedSuperbeing: He has a bird motif, although it is not as blatant as other examples of this trope.



* BeardOfSorrow: He sports one for a time during ''The New Teen Titans'' after an argument with Starfire (who had been in an ArrangedMarriage).



* CrazyPrepared: Bruce must have rubbed off on him.



* DarkerAndEdgier:
** Whilst serving as Batman following ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', Starfire noted the change in Dick's demeanour from his time as Nightwing; specifically pointing out that as Nightwing, Dick's fighting style was more graceful, acrobatic and almost as if he were dancing. Dick's response was "Batman doesn't dance."
** His portrayal in the ComicBook/{{New 52}} shows him as somewhat more violent than before, and his costume is now [[RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver red and black]] instead of black and blue, although this ''does'' have the benefit of putting all four of the Robins in red.
** With his move to Chicago post-''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'', this has actually decreased a fair amount.



* HeartwarmingOrphan: It's commented in-universe multiple times that he brought joy and color into Wayne Manor after Bruce took him in. Alfred describes it as [[http://dynamic-duo-deposit.tumblr.com/post/27327013587/it-was-as-if-color-had-come-to-our-monochrome "as if color had come to our monochrome lives."]]



* IHaveManyNames: Robin, Nightwing, Renegade, Batman, and Agent 37.



* {{Jerkass}}: Bad writing often casts him as an egomaniac jerk.



* LegacyImmortality: [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] this during his tenure as Batman.



* ReallyGetsAround: DependingOnTheWriter, he's either a regular [[TheCasanova Casanova]], or a flirt who means well and is looking for a serious relationship.



* DepartmentOfChildDisservices: Dick has some flashbacks to the legal proceedings that led to him becoming Bruceís ward and his time in Juvie after a Gotham Social Worker dumped him there after his parents murders.



* RecurringDreams: For a while Dick keeps dreaming about a child he failed to save from Two-face while he was still Robin.



* YouHaveFailedMe: After his hired guns fail to kill Nightwing Blockbuster uses a variation on this theme by having them all take on his new pet assassin, he even tells Stallion heíll give him a bonus if he can decapitate the new guy. In the end the existing criminals, save Lady Vic who gets some good shots in and Mouse and Giz who are not fighters anyway and take a pass, just end up getting in each otherís way which makes it easier for Shrike.

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* YouHaveFailedMe: YouHaveFailedMe:
** Black Mask tried to have Reynard killed after he failed to get Mask a hold in Blüdhaven's drug trade as quickly as he wanted but Reynard killed the man sent to take him out and earned another chance. Nightwing's continued interference meant that he failed again.
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After his hired guns fail to kill Nightwing Blockbuster uses a variation on this theme by having them all take on his new pet assassin, he even tells Stallion heíll give him a bonus if he can decapitate the new guy. In the end the existing criminals, save Lady Vic who gets some good shots in and Mouse and Giz who are not fighters anyway and take a pass, just end up getting in each otherís way which makes it easier for Shrike.
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