History ComicBook / LexLuthorManOfSteel

13th Sep '17 3:28:11 PM dr_toonie
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* WouldHurtAChild: [[spoiler: Whoever bombed the jewellery store didn't know or care that it was next to a daycare centre and ended up killing over a hundred people, more than seventy of whom were young children. Toyman gets the blame for this but desperately denies planting the bomb, even in private to himself. It is strongly implied that Lex was responsible and that the daycare centre was even the actual target. His {{mook}}, who is willing to at least threaten to hurt somebody's family, [[EvenEvilHasStandards is appalled and makes no secret that he blames Lex]] for the attack (and is seemingly murdered on the orders of Lex as well).]]
** [[spoiler: It is pretty much shown that it was Lex who caused the explosion, as Winslow received a package that said it contained plastic narcotics (as in something that would explode and create a knockout gas) from who he thought was Orr, but when he tells Orr about it, Orr is confused. So it is likely that Lex arranged for the package to be delivered, and that it contained plastic explosives (C4 or something similar), not plastic narcotics.]]

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* WouldHurtAChild: [[spoiler: Whoever bombed the jewellery store didn't know or care that it was next to a daycare centre and ended up killing over a hundred people, more than seventy of whom were young children. Toyman gets the blame for this but desperately denies planting the bomb, even in private to himself. It is strongly implied that Lex was responsible for the explosion and that the daycare centre was even the actual target. His {{mook}}, who is willing to at least threaten to hurt somebody's family, [[EvenEvilHasStandards is appalled appalled]] and makes no secret that he blames Lex]] Lex for the attack (and is seemingly murdered on the orders of Lex as well).]]
** [[spoiler: It is pretty much shown that it was Lex who caused the explosion, as Winslow received a package that said it contained plastic narcotics (as in something that would explode and create a knockout gas) from who he thought was Orr, but when he tells Orr about it, Orr is confused. So it is likely that Lex arranged for the package to be delivered, and that it contained plastic explosives (C4 or something similar), not plastic narcotics.]]
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29th Aug '17 3:15:35 PM Darsim
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** [[spoiler: It is pretty much shown that it was Lex who caused the explosion, as Winslow received a package that said it contained plastic narcotics (as in something that would explode and create a knockout gas) from who he thought was Orr, but when he tells Orr about it, Orr is confused. So it is likely that Lex arranged for the package to be delivered, and that it contained plastic explosives (C4 or something similar), not plastic narcotics.]]
2nd Aug '17 5:50:29 PM markband
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* WouldHurtAChild: [[spoiler: Whoever bombed the jewellery store didn't know or care that it was next to a daycare centre and ended up killing over a hundred people, more than seventy of whom were young children. Toyman gets the blame for this but desperately denies planting the bomb, even in private to himself. It is strongly implied that Lex was responsible and that the daycare centre was even the actual target. His {{mook}}, who is willing to at least threaten to hurt somebody's family, is appalled and makes no secret that he blames Lex for the attack (and is seemingly murdered on the orders of Lex as well).]]

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* WouldHurtAChild: [[spoiler: Whoever bombed the jewellery store didn't know or care that it was next to a daycare centre and ended up killing over a hundred people, more than seventy of whom were young children. Toyman gets the blame for this but desperately denies planting the bomb, even in private to himself. It is strongly implied that Lex was responsible and that the daycare centre was even the actual target. His {{mook}}, who is willing to at least threaten to hurt somebody's family, [[EvenEvilHasStandards is appalled and makes no secret that he blames Lex Lex]] for the attack (and is seemingly murdered on the orders of Lex as well).]]
13th May '17 11:58:04 AM Stranrep
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* KickTheDog: If read attentively, it's seen that Lex does this constantly, undoing his good deeds. A good example of this is when [[spoiler: Lex, through Orr and subtly himself, threatens the family of one of his leading partners, who disagrees with Lex's suggestions. While Orr, the man hired by Luthor, intimidates this partner under the roof, ready to kill...]]

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* KickTheDog: If read attentively, it's seen that Lex does this constantly, undoing his good deeds. A good example of this is when [[spoiler: Lex, through Orr and subtly himself, threatens the family of one of his leading partners, who disagrees with Lex's suggestions. While Orr, the man hired by Luthor, intimidates this partner under the roof, ready to kill...kill him.]]
19th Mar '17 5:06:59 AM SorPepita
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Depending on [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how you choose to interpret who's behind the events of the story]]. [[spoiler: If you believe that Toyman was behind the destruction of the jewelers / daycare center all on his own, then it's Luthor. If you believe that Luthor knew all along what was going down and in fact orchestrated it, then it's Toyman and Orr.]] The text would leans more towards the latter interpretation of events than the former.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Depending on [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how you choose to interpret who's behind the events of the story]]. [[spoiler: If you believe that Toyman was behind the destruction of the jewelers / daycare center all on his own, then it's Luthor. If you believe that Luthor knew all along what was going down and in fact orchestrated it, then it's Toyman and Orr.]] The text would leans lean more towards the latter interpretation of events than the former.
21st Jan '17 9:44:56 PM DoctorNemesis
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* DoubleMeaning: In the last issue, Luthor's internal monologue talks about hope in the face of the unstoppable, and says that "hope is what makes us human". The final line of the comic is "I am a man. I hope." which could be taken both as Luthor saying that he continues to have hope because that's what it is to be human, or that his actions have driven him to question his own humanity.

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In the last issue, Luthor's internal monologue talks about hope in the face of the unstoppable, and says that "hope is what makes us human". The final line of the comic is "I am a man. I hope." which could be taken both as Luthor saying that he continues to have hope because that's what it is to be human, or that his actions have driven him to question his own humanity.humanity.
** Also, Superman's single line of dialogue can be read as this. [[spoiler: He could be referring to his super-vision, which in some versions of the continuity has been extended to the point where he ''can'' see people's 'souls', or at least their auras, enough to give him an idea of what that person is really like. Or he could be referring to the fact that he simply knows Luthor too well and has dealt with the consequences of Luthor's megalomaniacal scheming and viciousness too many times to be fooled by his high-and-mighty humanism act.]]
3rd Jul '16 9:28:23 PM dr_toonie
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* ShutUpHannibal: Superman's only line throughout the miniseries. It reinforces the point that even though we've seen a more human, benevolent side to Lex than normal and he's very eloquent and impassioned in delivering his rant, he's still the ''bad guy''. It also hammers home the fact, that despite however benevolent Lex has presented himself, he is ultimately nothing more than a self-deluding insane hypocritical villain. Which is confirmed by Lex's VillainousBreakdown, showing that at some level, ''he knows this.''

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* ShutUpHannibal: Superman's only line throughout the miniseries. It reinforces the point that even though we've seen a more human, benevolent side to Lex than normal and he's very eloquent and impassioned in delivering his rant, he's still the ''bad guy''. It also hammers home the fact, that despite however benevolent Lex has presented himself, he is ultimately nothing more than a self-deluding insane hypocritical villain. Which is confirmed by Lex's VillainousBreakdown, showing resulting VillainousBreakdown suggests that at some level, ''he knows this.''
1st Jul '16 2:43:24 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* ShutUpHannibal: Superman's only line throughout the miniseries. It reinforces the point that even though we've seen a more human, benevolent side to Lex than normal and he's very eloquent and impassioned in delivering his rant, he's still the ''bad guy''.

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* ShutUpHannibal: Superman's only line throughout the miniseries. It reinforces the point that even though we've seen a more human, benevolent side to Lex than normal and he's very eloquent and impassioned in delivering his rant, he's still the ''bad guy''. It also hammers home the fact, that despite however benevolent Lex has presented himself, he is ultimately nothing more than a self-deluding insane hypocritical villain. Which is confirmed by Lex's VillainousBreakdown, showing that at some level, ''he knows this.''
18th Jun '16 1:04:57 AM DoctorNemesis
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* SympathyForTheDevil: An ambiguous example. In their final encounter, Superman as ever looks like he's barely restraining himself from attacking Luthor and reducing him to a smear on the wall for the most part, until Lex delivers his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech about how [[spoiler:everyone in Metropolis wanted to see Toyman killed]]. For one panel, Superman looks at Luthor with a sad expression which suggests that either Luthor's words have touched a nerve, or that Superman for a moment actually pities Luthor for his nihilistic view of the world.

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* SympathyForTheDevil: An ambiguous example. In their final encounter, for the most part Superman as ever looks like he's barely restraining himself from attacking Luthor and reducing him to a smear on the wall for the most part, -- until Lex delivers his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech about how [[spoiler:everyone in Metropolis wanted to see Toyman killed]]. For one panel, Superman looks at Luthor with a sad expression which suggests that either Luthor's words have touched a nerve, or that Superman for a moment actually pities Luthor for his nihilistic view of the world.
24th Apr '16 12:57:56 PM AnotherGuy
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** Both initially appear to be deconstructing the superhero, only to turn it around and end up revealing exactly how monstrous the villain is and why we shouldn't trust them at all. As an example, both works climax in a confrontation between villain and hero in which the villain launches into a lengthy and deconstructive "TheReasonYouSuck" Speech about how inadequate the hero is, only for the hero to respond with a brief ShutUpHannibal statement (two sentences for Superman, three words for Batman) that not only refutes everything the villain has tried to claim about the hero, but turns it back on the villain in such a way that drives them to a VillainousBreakdown.

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** Both initially appear to be deconstructing the superhero, only to turn it around and end up revealing exactly how monstrous the villain is and why we shouldn't trust them at all. As an example, both works climax in a confrontation between villain and hero in which the villain launches into a lengthy and deconstructive "TheReasonYouSuck" Speech about how inadequate the hero is, only for the hero to respond with a brief ShutUpHannibal statement (two sentences (seven words for Superman, three words for Batman) that not only refutes everything the villain has tried to claim about the hero, but turns it back on the villain in such a way that drives them to a VillainousBreakdown.
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