History ComicBook / JLAAvengers

4th May '18 10:21:06 AM 309216364
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* TheWorfEffect: Terminus nearly kills Superman with an energy blast. Starro turns Thor into a brainwashed slave. After this, Superman and Thor spend most of the story giving each other the Worf Effect.

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* TheWorfEffect: Terminus nearly kills Superman with an energy blast.manages to briefly incapacitate Superman. Starro turns Thor into a brainwashed slave. After this, Superman and Thor spend most of the story giving each other the Worf Effect.
4th May '18 10:17:51 AM 309216364
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* PowerCreepPowerSeep: To fix the imbalance between the Justice League and the generally less powerful Avengers, the story plays on the idea that some characters have different power levels depending on which universe they're in. So in the Franchise/DCUniverse, the higher levels of "chaos magic" make second-tier Avenger ComicBook/ScarletWitch powerful enough to take down the whole Justice League, while in the MarvelUniverse, the lack of a Speed Force makes the Flash nothing more than an ordinary human (Steel creates a device that enables him to store the Speed Force; however after some time in the Marvel Universe, Quicksilver is able to outrun him).

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* PowerCreepPowerSeep: To fix the imbalance between the Justice League and the generally less powerful Avengers, the story plays on the idea that some characters have different power levels depending on which universe they're in. So in the Franchise/DCUniverse, the higher levels of "chaos magic" make second-tier Avenger ComicBook/ScarletWitch powerful enough to take down briefly stun the whole Justice entire League, while in the MarvelUniverse, the lack of a Speed Force makes the Flash nothing more than an ordinary human (Steel creates a device that enables him to store the Speed Force; however after some time in the Marvel Universe, Quicksilver is able to outrun him).



* StrongAsTheyNeedToBe: Superman and Thor are as strong as the plot requires. Thor can take on Superman and the Martian Manhunter simultaneously in the first fight, but Superman alone can knock him out (even so, Thor claims in the last issue that he has a good idea of how powerful Superman is and could possibly beat him in another fight). In the final battle, Superman defeats Count Nefaria, a villain who can take on Thor ''and'' the entire Avengers team at once (at least we see Superman confront the Count, so for all we know he could have had help). Rising to the challenge, Thor defeats Doomsday, who is famous for killing Superman. {{Word of God}} is that Thor only knocked Doomsday off the panel, not that he was actually defeated.

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* StrongAsTheyNeedToBe: Superman and Thor are as strong as the plot requires. Thor can take on Superman and the Martian Manhunter simultaneously in the first fight, fight (actually he was overpowered), but Superman alone can knock him out (even so, Thor claims in the last issue that he has a good idea of how powerful Superman is and could possibly beat him in another fight). In the final battle, Superman defeats Count Nefaria, a villain who can take on Thor ''and'' the entire Avengers team at once (at least we see Superman confront the Count, so for all we know he could have had help). Rising to the challenge, Thor defeats Doomsday, who is famous for killing Superman. {{Word of God}} is that Thor only knocked Doomsday off the panel, not that he was actually defeated.
21st Apr '18 11:25:03 AM nombretomado
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** Might count as a meta-MythologyGag, since Perez did something similar with Raven during his run on ''New TeenTitans'' when her powers were corrupting ''her'' in the same way.

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** Might count as a meta-MythologyGag, since Perez did something similar with Raven during his run on ''New TeenTitans'' ComicBook/TeenTitans'' when her powers were corrupting ''her'' in the same way.
21st Mar '18 12:00:41 AM firejewel
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* RousingSpeech: Hal gives one at the end of third issue. Despite knowing he has the furthest to fall, he argues the hardest to SaveBothWorlds.

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* RousingSpeech: Hal gives one at the end of the third issue. Despite knowing he has the furthest to fall, he argues the hardest to SaveBothWorlds.
22nd Jan '18 11:19:23 PM EricW
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* SequelHook: Despite never getting a sequel, the last 3 panels of the series has Metron and the GrandMaster remark to each other that [[spoiler: perhaps they should play a game with each other again soon]].

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* SequelHook: Despite never getting a sequel, the last 3 panels of the series has Metron and the GrandMaster Grandmaster remark to each other that [[spoiler: perhaps they should play a game with each other again soon]].



* WinWinEnding: In a way, this is how things turned out. The heroes of Marvel and DC managed to save their universes, restoring order. The Grand-master managed to save his universe from being devoured. Krona gets to [[spoiler: be part of a new universe being born,]] meaning he finally gets the knowledge he always wanted. And Metron gets Krona out of their universe which is what he wanted, along with being able to know that no universes were sacrificed in doing so. All together, something he and Grand-master admitted was better played out than expected.

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* WinWinEnding: In a way, this is how things turned out. The heroes of Marvel and DC managed to save their universes, restoring order. The Grand-master Grandmaster managed to save his universe from being devoured.destroyed, winning his wager with Krona. Krona gets to [[spoiler: be part of a new universe being born,]] meaning he finally gets the knowledge he always wanted. And Metron gets Krona out of their universe which is what he wanted, along with being able to know that no universes were sacrificed in doing so. All together, something he and Grand-master Grandmaster admitted was better played out than expected.
22nd Jan '18 11:16:38 PM EricW
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* BigBad: Despite many planners and tricksters moving things around against the heroes, the true villain of the miniseries is Krona, the Mad Guardian of the Universe.


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* SequelHook: Despite never getting a sequel, the last 3 panels of the series has Metron and the GrandMaster remark to each other that [[spoiler: perhaps they should play a game with each other again soon]].


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* WinWinEnding: In a way, this is how things turned out. The heroes of Marvel and DC managed to save their universes, restoring order. The Grand-master managed to save his universe from being devoured. Krona gets to [[spoiler: be part of a new universe being born,]] meaning he finally gets the knowledge he always wanted. And Metron gets Krona out of their universe which is what he wanted, along with being able to know that no universes were sacrificed in doing so. All together, something he and Grand-master admitted was better played out than expected.
15th Dec '17 8:35:28 PM AnotherGuy
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** Darkseid gets ahold of the Infinity Gauntlet, which would normally fall under the category of ''worst thing that could ever happen'', but its vast power to manipulate reality is attuned to a ''different'' reality so it's useless to him.

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** Darkseid gets ahold of the Infinity Gauntlet, which would normally fall under the category of ''worst thing that could ever happen'', but its vast power to manipulate reality is attuned to a ''different'' reality so it's useless to him.[[note]]Considering Darkseid wouldn't fall for some of the same {{Villain Ball}}s Thanos did when wielding it, it would have been ''real bad''. Darkseid is pretty no-nonsense and straightforward.[[/note]]
28th Nov '17 4:14:20 AM SeptimusHeap
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Even more than you'd expect, since the final issue features ''everyone'' who'd ever been on the roster of either team up until that point fighting virtually every villain they'd ever faced. That number gets really big considering that just about every major hero in the Marvel Universe has been an Avenger (save Comicbook/{{Daredevil}} pre-''ComicBook/FearItself'' and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Human Torch]][[note]]That's, obviously, without mentioning basically 99% of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}}[[/note]]), and no small number of heroes have joined the Justice League, including many members of the ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Even more than you'd expect, since the final issue features ''everyone'' who'd ever been on the roster of either team up until that point fighting virtually every villain they'd ever faced. That number gets really big considering that just about every major hero in the Marvel Universe has been an Avenger (save Comicbook/{{Daredevil}} pre-''ComicBook/FearItself'' and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Human Torch]][[note]]That's, obviously, without mentioning basically 99% of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}}[[/note]]), ComicBook/XMen[[/note]]), and no small number of heroes have joined the Justice League, including many members of the ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica.
8th Oct '17 8:59:11 AM firejewel
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* RousingSpeech: Hal gives a one at the end of third issue. Despite knowing he has the furthest to fall, he argues the hardest to SaveBothWorlds.

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* RousingSpeech: Hal gives a one at the end of third issue. Despite knowing he has the furthest to fall, he argues the hardest to SaveBothWorlds.
24th Sep '17 10:53:51 AM nombretomado
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* BechdelTest: {{Lampshaded}} by She-Hulk: "Yo, [[WonderWoman Star-shorts]]! I figured that you'd be getting bored so I thought I'd hang with you. We can talk girl-talk. Y'know, butt-kicking, name-taking, like that."
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