History ComicBook / JLAAvengers

20th Aug '16 4:41:32 PM MrThorfan64
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* HeroicWillpower: Using Green Lantern and Scarlet Witch's powers as a conduit, the classic members of both teams prevent their two worlds from being forcibly merged by concentrating ''really really hard''.

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* HeroicWillpower: Using Green Lantern and Scarlet Witch's powers as a conduit, the classic members of both teams momentarily prevent their two worlds from being forcibly merged merged, jolting everybody back to their own universe, just by concentrating ''really really hard''.



** Thor and Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} both have blue eyes, long blonde hair, and identical beards (on the second half of #3 and first half of #4 at least, in Thor's case). Only their headgear sets them apart in certain panels. (Plus their obvious height difference: Aquaman is 6'1" while Thor is 6'6".)

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** Thor and Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} both have blue eyes, long blonde hair, and identical beards (on the second half of #3 and first half of #4 at least, in Thor's case). Only their headgear sets them apart in certain panels. (Plus their obvious height difference: Aquaman is 6'1" while Thor is 6'6".)) This is quite prominent when they are talking to each other early in #4.



* PowerCreepPowerSeep: To fix the imbalance between the Justice League and the generally less powerful Avengers, the story plays on the idea that some characters have different power levels depending on which universe they're in. So in the Franchise/DCUniverse, the higher levels of "chaos magic" make second-tier Avenger ComicBook/ScarletWitch powerful enough to take down the whole Justice League, while in the MarvelUniverse, the lack of a speed force makes the Flash nothing more than an ordinary human.

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* PowerCreepPowerSeep: To fix the imbalance between the Justice League and the generally less powerful Avengers, the story plays on the idea that some characters have different power levels depending on which universe they're in. So in the Franchise/DCUniverse, the higher levels of "chaos magic" make second-tier Avenger ComicBook/ScarletWitch powerful enough to take down the whole Justice League, while in the MarvelUniverse, the lack of a speed force makes the Flash nothing more than an ordinary human.human (Steel enables him to store the Speed Force, however after some time in the Marvel Universe, Quicksilver is able to outrun him).



* RippleEffectProofMemory: For much of the first part of #3 when the two worlds are merged, only Captain America and Superman realize that reality keeps warping, and the events of the previous issues. Their memories coming to the surface disrupts the worlds, after which the other heroes start remembering more. The Grandmaster later explains it as them being strongly attuned to their realities.



* StoryBreakerPower: Most of the items that the Avengers and the Justice League were seeking in the first and second issues have the power to completely derail the story. The Grandmaster know this, and took caution to prevent them from being able to ''use'' them. They were contained in energy spheres, and disappeared when either team captured and secured it. Darkseid broke the energy sphere around ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet, but it turned out to be conveniently useless in the DC universe.

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* StoryBreakerPower: Most of the items that the Avengers and the Justice League were seeking in the first and second issues have the power to completely derail the story. The Grandmaster know knows this, and took caution to prevent them from being able to ''use'' them. They were contained in energy spheres, and disappeared when either team captured and secured it. Darkseid broke the energy sphere around ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet, but it turned out to be conveniently useless in the DC universe. When Batman tries to use the Cosmic Cube, it disappears, Grandmaster saying the players can't use their power.



* SuperVillainTeamUp: In #3 a group of DC villains enthralled by Krona attack the Vision and Aquaman in Metropolis, but are beaten by the other heroes. In #4 Krona summons up many of the villains both teams have faced to defend his fortress, the fight with them taking up most of the issue.



* ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman: One of the artifacts the heroes seek is at the bottom of an incredibly deep pool of water at Odin's tomb.

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* ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman: One of the artifacts the heroes seek is at the bottom of an incredibly deep pool of water at Odin's tomb. Aquaman, who is getting beaten up by She-Hulk, realizes he doesn't need to beat her and recovers the artifact. Later that issue when a group of Avengers are beating up Superman in the Savage Land, Aquaman summons a giant sea-monster, knocking them all away.
6th Aug '16 2:51:09 PM nombretomado
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** Franchise/WonderWoman angrily attacking Marvel's [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules Hercules]], referring to him as the "despoiler of Hippolyta". In the DCUniverse, Heracles (a villain) at one point enslaved and raped Hippolyta (Wonder Woman's mother). In the MarvelUniverse, Hercules (a lovable hero who ReallyGetsAround) did at one point have an affair with Hippolyta... who's actually considered a ''villain'' there. (The event is based in Myth/ClassicalMythology, where Heracles/Hercules seduced Hippolyta, queen of the Amazons, and stole her belt. Marvel and DC both gave it their own spin.)

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** Franchise/WonderWoman angrily attacking Marvel's [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules Hercules]], referring to him as the "despoiler of Hippolyta". In the DCUniverse, Franchise/DCUniverse, Heracles (a villain) at one point enslaved and raped Hippolyta (Wonder Woman's mother). In the MarvelUniverse, Franchise/MarvelUniverse, Hercules (a lovable hero who ReallyGetsAround) did at one point have an affair with Hippolyta... who's actually considered a ''villain'' there. (The event is based in Myth/ClassicalMythology, where Heracles/Hercules seduced Hippolyta, queen of the Amazons, and stole her belt. Marvel and DC both gave it their own spin.)



* PowerCreepPowerSeep: To fix the imbalance between the Justice League and the generally less powerful Avengers, the story plays on the idea that some characters have different power levels depending on which universe they're in. So in the DCUniverse, the higher levels of "chaos magic" make second-tier Avenger ComicBook/ScarletWitch powerful enough to take down the whole Justice League, while in the MarvelUniverse, the lack of a speed force makes the Flash nothing more than an ordinary human.

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* PowerCreepPowerSeep: To fix the imbalance between the Justice League and the generally less powerful Avengers, the story plays on the idea that some characters have different power levels depending on which universe they're in. So in the DCUniverse, Franchise/DCUniverse, the higher levels of "chaos magic" make second-tier Avenger ComicBook/ScarletWitch powerful enough to take down the whole Justice League, while in the MarvelUniverse, the lack of a speed force makes the Flash nothing more than an ordinary human.
22nd Jul '16 3:56:17 PM MrThorfan64
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** Flash defeating Boomerang is suitable considering one of his main foes is another boomerang-themed villain, Captain Boomerang.



** After almost being defeated by Radioactive Man and Solarr Superman is restored by the Vision using his last stores of solar energy. Two panels later, Superman is at Krona's last line of defence, and the two villains are piled on the Grim Reaper, who Superman was fighting before Radioactive Man and Solarr attacked.



* StrongAsTheyNeedToBe: Superman and Thor are as strong as the plot requires. Thor can take on Superman and the Martian Manhunter simultaneously in the first fight, but Superman alone can knock him out (even so, Thor claims in the last issue that he has a good idea of how powerful Superman is and could possibly beat him in another fight). In the final battle, Superman defeats Count Nefaria, a villain who can take on Thor ''and'' the entire Avengers team at once. Rising to the challenge, Thor defeats Doomsday, who is famous for killing Superman. {{Word of God}} is that Thor only knocked Doomsday off the panel, not that he was actually defeated.

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* StrongAsTheyNeedToBe: Superman and Thor are as strong as the plot requires. Thor can take on Superman and the Martian Manhunter simultaneously in the first fight, but Superman alone can knock him out (even so, Thor claims in the last issue that he has a good idea of how powerful Superman is and could possibly beat him in another fight). In the final battle, Superman defeats Count Nefaria, a villain who can take on Thor ''and'' the entire Avengers team at once.once (at least we see Superman confront the Count, so for all we know he could have had help). Rising to the challenge, Thor defeats Doomsday, who is famous for killing Superman. {{Word of God}} is that Thor only knocked Doomsday off the panel, not that he was actually defeated.



** Later he uses his control of marine life to shut down the minds of Atlanteans guarding Krona's citadel.



* TrialByFriendlyFire: Towards the end of #4 when both worlds are close to collapse, the heroes are fighting Attuma and his Atlanteans, however Aquaman is able to shut all their minds down, despite the Atlantean Avengers Namor and his wife Marrina being among those fighting the Atlanteans. The half-Atlantean Namor withstands this, though is left with a headache. However Marrina is left with her mind out. Aquaman apologizes to Namor, saying it was the only way.



16th Jun '16 8:14:29 PM nombretomado
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** Hawkeye's reaction to [[spoiler:Darkseid getting ahold of the Infinity Gauntlet. However, Darkseid discards it when he learns that the powers the gauntlet should allow him to control don't exist in the DC Universe]]. Made even better by the fact that Hawkeye recognizes Darkseid as being the most evil being in the multiverse even though he never met him (he says Darkseid "looks even worse than {{Thanos}}, if that's even possible").

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** Hawkeye's reaction to [[spoiler:Darkseid getting ahold of the Infinity Gauntlet. However, Darkseid discards it when he learns that the powers the gauntlet should allow him to control don't exist in the DC Universe]]. Made even better by the fact that Hawkeye recognizes Darkseid as being the most evil being in the multiverse even though he never met him (he says Darkseid "looks even worse than {{Thanos}}, ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, if that's even possible").



** Averted, predictably enough. Dr. Light yells "Captain Marvel -- look out!" [[ComicBook/CaptainMarVell Marvel!Captain Marvel]] and [[{{Shazam}} DC!Captain Marvel]] simultaneously thank her. And in the background of that panel is Monica Rambeau/Photon, who originally went by "Captain Marvel" as well.

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** Averted, predictably enough. Dr. Light yells "Captain Marvel -- look out!" [[ComicBook/CaptainMarVell Marvel!Captain Marvel]] and [[{{Shazam}} [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} DC!Captain Marvel]] simultaneously thank her. And in the background of that panel is Monica Rambeau/Photon, who originally went by "Captain Marvel" as well.
19th May '16 10:03:54 AM AnotherGuy
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* DoesNotLikeGuns: Namechecked by Batman, of course; when Tony tells Bruce that he's sorry the modifications sacrificed the Atlantean warcraft's guns, Bruce replies he didn't care - he doesn't like guns.
19th May '16 9:18:24 AM AnotherGuy
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** Radioactive Man and Solarr generate Kryptonite's energy signature (which had been a tip-off from ComicBook/LexLuthor, no less) and red sunlight to de-power Franchise/{{Superman}}.

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** Radioactive Man and Solarr generate generates Kryptonite's energy signature and while Solarr blasts him with red sunlight (which had been a tip-off from ComicBook/LexLuthor, no less) and red sunlight to de-power Franchise/{{Superman}}.
3rd Apr '16 8:58:51 AM AnotherGuy
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Metron asks Krona if it's ''knowledge'' he's looking for - or ''power''.
3rd Apr '16 8:44:54 AM AnotherGuy
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** Flash and Hawkeye during the first battle are having ''fun''. [[spoiler: They share the same jocularity during the final battle while fighting side-by-side, eventually coming up with a plan to defeat Krona.]]
22nd Mar '16 12:27:20 PM Dehumanizer
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* ButtMonkey: Poor Wally West really gets the short end of the stick in this one. On his first visit to the Marvel Universe he discovers that he has lost his powers, as there is no Speed Force there. He is summarily beaten by an angry mob mistaking him for one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s Acolytes. He then gets owned by Iron Man. And then by Quicksilver (much to the latter's delight). Then he is completely AWOL in the big brawl at the climax (save a one-panel cameo as Dark Flash) and shows up at the very end, having ''just missed'' a chance to see Barry. He is owned by Quicksilver on their ''third'' encounter. Wally won the first two (though the second one was kind of accidental, because he was more worried about outrunning {{ComicBook/Darkseid}}'s Omega Beams than beating Quicksilver).

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* ButtMonkey: Poor Wally West really gets the short end of the stick in this one. On his first visit to the Marvel Universe he discovers that he has lost his powers, as there is no Speed Force there. He is summarily beaten by an angry mob mistaking him for one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s Acolytes. He then gets owned by Iron Man. And then by Quicksilver (much to the latter's delight). Then he is completely AWOL in the big brawl at the climax (save a one-panel cameo as Dark Flash) and shows up at the very end, having ''just missed'' a chance to see Barry.
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He is owned by Quicksilver on their ''third'' encounter. Wally won the first two (though the second one was kind of accidental, because he was more worried about outrunning {{ComicBook/Darkseid}}'s Omega Beams than beating Quicksilver).
29th Feb '16 6:01:51 PM AnotherGuy
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* StayOnThePath: ComicBook/ThePhantomStranger warns the two teams not to deviate the path he's created to take them to Grandmaster, or they'll be lost in time and space forever.
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