History ComicBook / JLAAvengers

22nd Jan '18 11:19:23 PM EricW
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* SequelHook: Despite never getting a sequel, the last 3 panels of the series has Metron and the GrandMaster remark to each other that [[spoiler: perhaps they should play a game with each other again soon]].

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* SequelHook: Despite never getting a sequel, the last 3 panels of the series has Metron and the GrandMaster Grandmaster remark to each other that [[spoiler: perhaps they should play a game with each other again soon]].



* WinWinEnding: In a way, this is how things turned out. The heroes of Marvel and DC managed to save their universes, restoring order. The Grand-master managed to save his universe from being devoured. Krona gets to [[spoiler: be part of a new universe being born,]] meaning he finally gets the knowledge he always wanted. And Metron gets Krona out of their universe which is what he wanted, along with being able to know that no universes were sacrificed in doing so. All together, something he and Grand-master admitted was better played out than expected.

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* WinWinEnding: In a way, this is how things turned out. The heroes of Marvel and DC managed to save their universes, restoring order. The Grand-master Grandmaster managed to save his universe from being devoured.destroyed, winning his wager with Krona. Krona gets to [[spoiler: be part of a new universe being born,]] meaning he finally gets the knowledge he always wanted. And Metron gets Krona out of their universe which is what he wanted, along with being able to know that no universes were sacrificed in doing so. All together, something he and Grand-master Grandmaster admitted was better played out than expected.
22nd Jan '18 11:16:38 PM EricW
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* BigBad: Despite many planners and tricksters moving things around against the heroes, the true villain of the miniseries is Krona, the Mad Guardian of the Universe.


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* SequelHook: Despite never getting a sequel, the last 3 panels of the series has Metron and the GrandMaster remark to each other that [[spoiler: perhaps they should play a game with each other again soon]].


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* WinWinEnding: In a way, this is how things turned out. The heroes of Marvel and DC managed to save their universes, restoring order. The Grand-master managed to save his universe from being devoured. Krona gets to [[spoiler: be part of a new universe being born,]] meaning he finally gets the knowledge he always wanted. And Metron gets Krona out of their universe which is what he wanted, along with being able to know that no universes were sacrificed in doing so. All together, something he and Grand-master admitted was better played out than expected.
15th Dec '17 8:35:28 PM AnotherGuy
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** Darkseid gets ahold of the Infinity Gauntlet, which would normally fall under the category of ''worst thing that could ever happen'', but its vast power to manipulate reality is attuned to a ''different'' reality so it's useless to him.

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** Darkseid gets ahold of the Infinity Gauntlet, which would normally fall under the category of ''worst thing that could ever happen'', but its vast power to manipulate reality is attuned to a ''different'' reality so it's useless to him.[[note]]Considering Darkseid wouldn't fall for some of the same {{Villain Ball}}s Thanos did when wielding it, it would have been ''real bad''. Darkseid is pretty no-nonsense and straightforward.[[/note]]
28th Nov '17 4:14:20 AM SeptimusHeap
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Even more than you'd expect, since the final issue features ''everyone'' who'd ever been on the roster of either team up until that point fighting virtually every villain they'd ever faced. That number gets really big considering that just about every major hero in the Marvel Universe has been an Avenger (save Comicbook/{{Daredevil}} pre-''ComicBook/FearItself'' and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Human Torch]][[note]]That's, obviously, without mentioning basically 99% of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}}[[/note]]), and no small number of heroes have joined the Justice League, including many members of the ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Even more than you'd expect, since the final issue features ''everyone'' who'd ever been on the roster of either team up until that point fighting virtually every villain they'd ever faced. That number gets really big considering that just about every major hero in the Marvel Universe has been an Avenger (save Comicbook/{{Daredevil}} pre-''ComicBook/FearItself'' and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Human Torch]][[note]]That's, obviously, without mentioning basically 99% of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}}[[/note]]), ComicBook/XMen[[/note]]), and no small number of heroes have joined the Justice League, including many members of the ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica.
8th Oct '17 8:59:11 AM firejewel
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* RousingSpeech: Hal gives a one at the end of third issue. Despite knowing he has the furthest to fall, he argues the hardest to SaveBothWorlds.

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* RousingSpeech: Hal gives a one at the end of third issue. Despite knowing he has the furthest to fall, he argues the hardest to SaveBothWorlds.
24th Sep '17 10:53:51 AM nombretomado
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* BechdelTest: {{Lampshaded}} by She-Hulk: "Yo, [[WonderWoman Star-shorts]]! I figured that you'd be getting bored so I thought I'd hang with you. We can talk girl-talk. Y'know, butt-kicking, name-taking, like that."
8th Sep '17 5:18:57 PM Materioptikon
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* DeadAlternateCounterpart: In issue #3 the Marvel and DC worlds have become combined, turning it into a [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] utopia. When the characters learn how their realities are ''supposed'' to be, the character who argues for the restoration the most is Hal Jordan -- who is "supposed to" be dead (Barry Allen is there too, but he's not quite so eager to restore the realities until he convinces himself otherwise).

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* DeadAlternateCounterpart: In issue #3 the Marvel and DC worlds have become combined, turning it into a [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] utopia. When the characters learn how their realities are ''supposed'' to be, the character who argues for the restoration the most is Hal Jordan -- who is "supposed to" be dead dead, and in fact died a ''villain'' as Parallax (Barry Allen is there too, but he's not quite so eager to restore the realities until he convinces himself otherwise).
6th Sep '17 9:36:12 AM CosmicFerret
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Originally, the crossover -- which would have pitted the teams against their respective enemies Kang the Conqueror and the Lord of Time -- was meant to come out in the early 1980s; noted artist George Perez, who had worked on both team's titles, was set to draw it. But some behind-the-scenes conflict (allegedly, Marvel's then Editor-in-Chief, Creator/JimShooter, pointed out some story errors -- such as the hero ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}} being as fast as TheFlash -- and asked for a rewrite, which was not well-received by the DC people) led to the project's cancellation, despite Perez having already drawn several pages. This caused resentments that prevented the companies from doing crossovers again for several years, and left many comics fans disappointed.

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Originally, the crossover -- which would have pitted the teams against their respective enemies Kang the Conqueror and the Lord of Time -- was meant to come out in the early 1980s; noted artist George Perez, who had worked on both team's titles, was set to draw it. But some behind-the-scenes conflict (allegedly, Marvel's then Editor-in-Chief, Creator/JimShooter, pointed out some story errors -- such as the hero ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}} being as fast as TheFlash ComicBook/TheFlash -- and asked for a rewrite, which was not well-received by the DC people) led to the project's cancellation, despite Perez having already drawn several pages. This caused resentments that prevented the companies from doing crossovers again for several years, and left many comics fans disappointed.



* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Because of him and [[spoiler:TheFlash saving both the Marvel and DC universes from Krona, ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} has been inducted into the Justice League.]] Yes, [[spoiler:Clint Barton currently holds the distinction of being a member of BOTH the Justice League and the Avengers; the premier superheroes of both universes.]]

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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Because of him and [[spoiler:TheFlash [[spoiler:ComicBook/TheFlash saving both the Marvel and DC universes from Krona, ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} has been inducted into the Justice League.]] Yes, [[spoiler:Clint Barton currently holds the distinction of being a member of BOTH the Justice League and the Avengers; the premier superheroes of both universes.]]



* DramaPreservingHandicap: There is no Speed Force in the Marvel Universe, which prevents TheFlash from winning Grandmaster's game single-handedly.

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* DramaPreservingHandicap: There is no Speed Force in the Marvel Universe, which prevents TheFlash ComicBook/TheFlash from winning Grandmaster's game single-handedly.



* HamToHamCombat: TheFlash and Hawkeye engage in jovial banter, even in the ''first'' battle when the JLA and Avengers are enemies.

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* HamToHamCombat: TheFlash ComicBook/TheFlash and Hawkeye engage in jovial banter, even in the ''first'' battle when the JLA and Avengers are enemies.



** Despite being [[DramaPreservingHandicap unable to use his powers]] in the Marvel universe, [[TheFlash Wally West]] should still be [[StorybreakerPower fast enough]] to defeat most of the Avengers by himself. As it is, Wally is limited to the basic speedster skill set: running fast, dodging attacks, and little else.

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** Despite being [[DramaPreservingHandicap unable to use his powers]] in the Marvel universe, [[TheFlash [[ComicBook/TheFlash Wally West]] should still be [[StorybreakerPower fast enough]] to defeat most of the Avengers by himself. As it is, Wally is limited to the basic speedster skill set: running fast, dodging attacks, and little else.



* UngratefulBastard: The fact that the Marvel Universe citizens are these while the DCU citizens are very much ''not'', gets played for laughs. Praise of the DC heroes in the news and overt friendliness and respect from the curious DCU civilians come as a big shock to the Avengers. Quicksilver is pissed off at the fact that TheFlash has an entire museum dedicated to him, while Quicksilver has been hounded by anti-mutant prejudice all his life, and Cap (being NotHimself at the time) even says the DC heroes must be tyrants who force the human race to worship them. Conversely, when Superman sees a broken and vandalized Hank Pym statue, he gets angry because the Marvel Universe's citizens have no respect for their heroes, which to him must mean that they aren't doing enough.

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* UngratefulBastard: The fact that the Marvel Universe citizens are these while the DCU citizens are very much ''not'', gets played for laughs. Praise of the DC heroes in the news and overt friendliness and respect from the curious DCU civilians come as a big shock to the Avengers. Quicksilver is pissed off at the fact that TheFlash ComicBook/TheFlash has an entire museum dedicated to him, while Quicksilver has been hounded by anti-mutant prejudice all his life, and Cap (being NotHimself at the time) even says the DC heroes must be tyrants who force the human race to worship them. Conversely, when Superman sees a broken and vandalized Hank Pym statue, he gets angry because the Marvel Universe's citizens have no respect for their heroes, which to him must mean that they aren't doing enough.
5th Sep '17 6:27:18 PM luiz4200
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* SaveTheVillain: Batman saves drug dealers from ''ComicBook/ThePunisher''.
25th Aug '17 8:07:01 PM project13Kr
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* LetsYouAndHimFight: Trope picture.

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* LetsYouAndHimFight: Trope picture.The Mini-Series.
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