History ComicBook / Grendel

29th Dec '16 10:39:15 AM nombretomado
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: In Issue #1 of "Devils Legacy" Christine was on the PhilDonahue show where she discussed the legacy of Grendel in her family. She mused that Donahue must be about 70 by now. According to recent estimate (based on when the idea of the original Hunter Rose stories being set in the early-mid 80s), Christine's story arc would have to take place somewhere in the mid 2020's. That would make Donahue more likely to be in his 90s by then. Donahue's long running show ended in 1996 and he had a short lived show between 2002-2003. The fact that the second show didn't last a year might reflect how relevant Donahue was in the 2000s (not very). Even if he's still alive, the "serious" talk show format is DeaderThanDisco. So no one is really holding their breath thinking that he'll try again anytime soon.
** Also, during Brian's tenure as Grendel, someone was discussing going home and watching DavidLetterman although they felt that the "old fart just aint funny anymore". Letterman retired from Late Night host in 2015; that would be about ten years before the events in the comic.

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In Issue #1 of "Devils Legacy" Christine was on the PhilDonahue show where she discussed the legacy of Grendel in her family. She mused that Donahue must be about 70 by now. According to recent estimate (based on when the idea of the original Hunter Rose stories being set in the early-mid 80s), Christine's story arc would have to take place somewhere in the mid 2020's. That would make Donahue more likely to be in his 90s by then. Donahue's long running show ended in 1996 and he had a short lived show between 2002-2003. The fact that the second show didn't last a year might reflect how relevant Donahue was in the 2000s (not very). Even if he's still alive, the "serious" talk show format is DeaderThanDisco. So no one is really holding their breath thinking that he'll try again anytime soon.
** Also, during During Brian's tenure as Grendel, someone was discussing going home and watching DavidLetterman Creator/DavidLetterman although they felt that the "old fart just aint funny anymore". Letterman retired from Late Night host in 2015; that would be about ten years before the events in the comic.
24th Dec '16 7:07:02 AM ThallianGold
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* ChivalrousPervert: Orion Assante is a more literal version of this than most, being the closest the series has to a genuine BigGood and also very much in requited love with [[BrotherSisterIncest his half-sisters]].


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** The Grendel Empire is rife with corruption and infighting, but everyone draws a line at vampires or nuclear weapons.
8th Dec '16 3:40:20 PM LondonKdS
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* IntercontinuityCrossover: ''Batman/Grendel''
** Especially notable in that not only are both crossovers canon for Grendel, the sequel comic serves as a major plot point in Grendel Prime's life.
** Also, "Grendel vs Radio/TheShadow", where Grendel is sent back in time to the 1930s, where he stages a coup d'etat to take over the era's mafia and does battle with the famous vigilante.

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* IntercontinuityCrossover: ''Batman/Grendel''
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** Especially The two ''Batman/Grendel'' miniseries, especially notable in that not only are both crossovers canon for Grendel, the sequel comic serves as a major plot point in Grendel Prime's life.
** Also, "Grendel ''Grendel vs Radio/TheShadow", Radio/TheShadow'', where Grendel Hunter Rose is sent back in time to the 1930s, where he stages a coup d'etat to take over the era's mafia and does battle with the famous vigilante.



* VillainProtagonist: Most stories take place from the Grendels' perspectives, and are rarely sympathetic.

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* VillainProtagonist: Most stories take place from the Grendels' perspectives, and which are rarely sympathetic.
2nd Dec '16 9:02:12 PM Xtifr
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Grendel is a comic book series created by Matt Wagner. The titular character first appeared in the anthology title ''"Comico Primer''" #2 (1982). He held his own short-lived black and white series (1983-1984), and also appeared as back-up strip in ''"Mage''" (1984-1986). Before launched in an original full-color series, lasting from 1986 to 1990. Various mini-series featuring Grendel regularly appeared through the [[TheNineties 1990s]]. Reprints and some new material have continued appearing in the 21st century.

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Grendel ''Grendel'' is a comic book series created by Matt Wagner. The titular character first appeared in the anthology title ''"Comico Primer''" #2 (1982). He held his own short-lived black and white series (1983-1984), and also appeared as back-up strip in ''"Mage''" (1984-1986). Before launched in an original full-color series, lasting from 1986 to 1990. Various mini-series featuring Grendel regularly appeared through the [[TheNineties 1990s]]. Reprints and some new material have continued appearing in the 21st century.



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12th Jan '16 1:10:54 PM avon
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** Also, during Brian's tenure as Grendel, someone was discussing going home and watching DavidLetterman although they felt that the "old fart just aint funny anymore". Letterman retired from Late Night host in 2015; that would be about ten years before the events in the comic.
12th Jan '16 1:06:24 PM avon
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: In Issue #1 of "Devils Legacy" Christine was on the PhilDonahue show where she discussed the legacy of Grendel in her family. She mused that Donahue must be about 70 by now. According to recent estimate (based on when the idea of the original Hunter Rose stories being set in the early-mid 80s), Christine's story arc would have to take place somewhere in the mid 2020's. That would make Donahue more likely to be in his 90s by then. Donahue's long running show ended in 1996 and he had a short lived show between 2002-2003. The fact that the second show didn't last a year might reflect how relevant Donahue was in the 2000s (not very). Even if he's still alive, the "serious" talk show format is DeaderThanDisco. So no one is really holding their breath thinking that he'll try again anytime soon.
21st Nov '15 8:02:00 PM TVRulezAgain
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* CanonWelding: Played with. Both of the crossovers with {{Batman}} are Grendel continuity, but not Batman's.

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* CanonWelding: Played with. Both of the crossovers with {{Batman}} Franchise/{{Batman}} are Grendel continuity, but not Batman's.
26th Oct '15 2:58:15 PM ThallianGold
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* CanonWelding: Played with. Both of the crossovers with {{Batman}} are Grendel continuity, but not Batman's.



** [[spoiler: Hunter Rose in Batman/Grendel]] is revealed to wear the Grendel mask as makeup under the actual Grendel mask.



** Both Hunter and Christine [[TemptingFate swear to protect their children.]]



** Anyone with a SkunkStripe is probably a major Grendel figure.



** Grendel Prime was created to embody the purest ideals of the Grendel philosophy, including refusing "Name, or status, or rank of any kind." Unfortunately for him, this also means he's a OneManArmy who refuses to be TheLeader, and is [[DespairEventHorizon doomed to watch his ideals crumble into antiquity when lesser souls cannot live up to his example]].



** also, "Grendel vs Radio/TheShadow", where Grendel is sent back in time to the 1930s, where he stages a coup d'etat to take over the era's mafia and does battle with the famous vigilante.

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** also, Also, "Grendel vs Radio/TheShadow", where Grendel is sent back in time to the 1930s, where he stages a coup d'etat to take over the era's mafia and does battle with the famous vigilante.



** Grendel Prime is specifically called out on this, repeatedly referred to as [[InSeriesNickname "paladin"]].



** Orion attempts to seize control of the world peaceably whenever possible. [[BewareTheNiceOnes It rarely is, but that doesn't stop him.]]



** The corruption of the Catholic Church is a common theme in Orion Assante's stories.



* VillainProtagonist

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* VillainProtagonist VillainProtagonist: Most stories take place from the Grendels' perspectives, and are rarely sympathetic.
30th Sep '15 3:03:33 PM ThallianGold
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* FrequentlyBrokenUnbreakableVow: Expect most promises to end in bloodshed. Expect those who break the Grendel Oath to suffer for it. Expect most showcased Grendels to break the oath.
23rd Oct '14 11:24:49 PM KevinKlawitter
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** also, "Grendel vs Radio/TheShadow", where Grendel is sent back in time to the 1930s, where he stages a coup d'etat to take over the era's mafia and does battle with the famous vigilante.
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