History ComicBook / CerebusTheAardvark

5th Jan '17 1:58:30 AM Nithael
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* {{Badass}}:
** Cerebus may be an asshole, but he's also a formidable fighter for his size and will take on pretty much any challenge in front of him.
** The unnamed Hsifan Assassin from issues 21 and 22. Even Cerebus and the Roach barely put up a fight [[spoiler:except when he's possessed by Elrod]].
29th Sep '16 12:00:30 PM Willbyr
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** ''Jaka's Story'' fills in some important parts of her childhood and adolescence. However, as these parts are from Oscar's read about her based on anecdotes from Rick, [[[[UnreliableNarrator the reader doesn't know what really happened and what is Oscar filling in the gaps]] with his...[[PurpleProse florid writing]].

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** ''Jaka's Story'' fills in some important parts of her childhood and adolescence. However, as these parts are from Oscar's read about her based on anecdotes from Rick, [[[[UnreliableNarrator [[UnreliableNarrator the reader doesn't know what really happened and what is Oscar filling in the gaps]] with his...his [[PurpleProse florid writing]].



** Cerebus kills [[spoiler:the wizard Necross, in the form of the giant stone Thrunk]] by shooting him in the head with a cannon.

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** Cerebus kills finishes off [[spoiler:the wizard Necross, in the form of the giant stone Thrunk]] by shooting him in the head with a cannon.



--->*''Sophia and Cerebus are drinking and talking; she'd tried to put the moves on Cerebus earlier, to no avail''*\\

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--->*''Sophia --->[''Sophia and Cerebus are drinking and talking; she'd tried to put the moves on Cerebus earlier, to no avail''*\\avail'']\\



* ChessMotifs: Scattered throughout the first half of ''Mothers and Daughters''. The most explicit is the final mental meeting between Suenteus Po and Cerebus, where they play chess and each piece and its move are compared to a character in the story and how being around Cerebus affected them. The symbolism of this extends past the actual "game", as Suenteus Po realizes that he made a mistake in the game, revealed by Sim to be Cerebus' "magnifier" at work.

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* ChessMotifs: Scattered throughout the first half of ''Mothers and Daughters''. The most explicit is the final mental meeting between Suenteus Po and Cerebus, where they play chess in a kind of trippy astral experience and each piece and its move are compared to a character in the story and how being around Cerebus affected them. The symbolism of this extends past the actual "game", as Suenteus Po realizes that he made a mistake in the game, revealed by Sim to be Cerebus' "magnifier" at work.



* ConstructedWorld: Possibly subverted, as it is implied if not outright stated that [[spoiler:the world Cerebus inhabits eventually becomes ours.]]
* ConvenientMiscarriage: {{Subverted|Trope}}. Jaka reunites with Cerebus in the middle of ''Church and State II'' after a long separation, only to tell him that she is now married and expecting a child. Cerebus is angry, but eventually relents and gives her some money for the baby. When he next sees her (at the start of ''Jaka's Story''), her pregnancy is seemingly {{handwave}}d away with a single line about a miscarriage. It looks like Jaka has fallen victim to this trope...[[spoiler:until the end of the story arc, where we learn that Jaka actually had an abortion behind her husband's back. This leads to the end of her marriage, and to her eventually getting back together with Cerebus. Abortion in the story is very, very illegal, and while Jaka's husband did want to have a child, her main motivation for lying to him was to protect him from criminal liability if she was found out...although her telling Cerebus that she was afraid having a baby would make her ugly casts some dark shadows on her motivation]].

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* ConstructedWorld: Possibly subverted, as it is implied if not outright stated that [[spoiler:the world Cerebus inhabits eventually becomes ours.]]
ours]].
* ConvenientMiscarriage: {{Subverted|Trope}}. Jaka reunites with Cerebus in the middle of ''Church and State II'' after a long separation, only to tell him that she is now married and expecting a child. Cerebus is angry, but eventually relents and gives her some money for the baby. When he next sees her (at the start of ''Jaka's Story''), her pregnancy is seemingly {{handwave}}d away with a single line about a miscarriage. It looks like Jaka has fallen victim to this trope...[[spoiler:until the end of the story arc, where we learn that Jaka actually had an abortion behind her husband's back. This leads to the end of her marriage, and to her eventually getting back together with Cerebus. Abortion in the story is very, very ''very'' illegal, and while Jaka's husband did want to have a child, her main motivation for lying to him was to protect him from criminal liability if she was found out...although her telling Cerebus that she was afraid having a baby would make her ugly casts some dark shadows on her motivation]].
29th Aug '16 9:46:19 PM Willbyr
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* EndingFatigue: [[invoked]] Some readers may have been feeling this near the end, but the person suffering most was actually Gerhard. Basically the last person that Dave hadn't driven away from the comic with his crazy, ReclusiveArtist behaviour (although by this point he and Dave never spoke outside work), he revealed in an [[http://classic.tcj.com/alternative/the-craft-behind-cerebus-an-interview-with-gerhard-part-three-of-three/3/ interview]] with ''The Comics Journal'' that even he was lost as a reader and became very frustrated with the drudgery of working on a book "even I couldn't read anymore." It was to the point that he motivated himself to finish ''The Last Day'' with the mantra [[BrokenRecord "done by Christmas, done by Christmas..."]], because Dave happened to mention at one point that the book would be "done by Christmas" if a certain amount of pages were finished per day. Gerhard also admitted in the same interview that after ''Cerebus'' was finished, he was so burnt out by the experience he didn't feel like drawing for nearly ''six years'' afterwards.



* PostScriptSeason: All lingering plot threads and character arcs were pretty much resolved by the end of ''Minds'', but the series ran for another 3 arcs/100 issues... some people believe he did this solely because he'd earlier stated that the series would run for a total of 300 issues. Sim himself stated in an interview with ''The Comics Journal'', "Cerebus #1-200 [is] the completion of the story. The yin and yang."
** To illustrate how severe the EndingFatigue got by the end: Gerhard, basically the last person that Dave hadn't driven away from the comic with his crazy, ReclusiveArtist behaviour (although by this point Dave and Gerhard never spoke outside work), was [[http://classic.tcj.com/alternative/the-craft-behind-cerebus-an-interview-with-gerhard-part-three-of-three/3/ interviewed]] by ''The Comics Journal'' and admitted that even he was lost as a reader and became very frustrated with the drudgery of working on a book "even I couldn't read anymore", to the point that he motivated himself to finish ''The Last Day'' with the mantra [[BrokenRecord "done by Christmas, done by Christmas..."]], because Dave happened to mention at one point that the book would be "done by Christmas" if a certain amount of pages were finished per day. Gerhard also admits in the same interview that after ''Cerebus'' was finished, he was so burnt out by the experience he didn't feel like drawing for nearly six years afterwards.

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* PostScriptSeason: All lingering plot threads and character arcs were pretty much resolved by the end of ''Minds'', but the series ran for another 3 arcs/100 issues... some people believe he did this solely because he'd earlier stated that the series would run for a total of 300 issues. Sim himself stated in an interview with ''The Comics Journal'', "Cerebus Journal'':
-->Cerebus
#1-200 [is] the completion of the story. The yin and yang."
** To illustrate how severe the EndingFatigue got by the end: Gerhard, basically the last person that Dave hadn't driven away from the comic with his crazy, ReclusiveArtist behaviour (although by this point Dave and Gerhard never spoke outside work), was [[http://classic.tcj.com/alternative/the-craft-behind-cerebus-an-interview-with-gerhard-part-three-of-three/3/ interviewed]] by ''The Comics Journal'' and admitted that even he was lost as a reader and became very frustrated with the drudgery of working on a book "even I couldn't read anymore",
The ultra-female reading. The ultra-male reading. I'm attaching an allegory to the point that he motivated himself to finish ''The Last Day'' with Big Bang. You make up your mind which one's the mantra [[BrokenRecord "done by Christmas, done by Christmas..."]], because Dave happened to mention at one point that pit and which one's the book would be "done by Christmas" if a certain amount top of pages were finished per day. Gerhard also admits in the same interview that after ''Cerebus'' was finished, he was so burnt out by the experience he didn't feel like drawing for nearly six years afterwards.mountain.
29th Aug '16 9:18:23 PM Willbyr
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* WouldHitAGirl: Played straight in multiple ways in the comic.

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* WouldHitAGirl: Played straight in multiple ways throughout the comic. [[AvertedTrope However]], during the "living with Jaka" scenarios in ''Minds'', when Cerebus is shown right away that [[DomesticAbuse he'd be physically abusive to Jaka]], he's horrified and immediately has "Dave" alter things so it's not in the comic.cards...not that that helps in the long run.
29th Aug '16 8:53:23 PM PaulA
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* LongRunner: Considering it was an independent, creator-owned comic, it sure lasted a good deal longer than you'd think.
20th Jul '16 5:54:42 AM Willbyr
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** Cerebus' "Spore" persona is a walking parody of ComicBook/{{Spawn}}, costume and all.
19th Jul '16 9:02:20 PM Willbyr
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** Cerebus and New Joanne. Her age isn't revealed but when the reader first sees her, but she appears to be somewhere in her 20s, whereas Cerebus has lived a long, long time and looks it.

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** Cerebus and New Joanne. "New Joanne." Her age isn't revealed but when the reader first sees her, but she appears to be somewhere in her 20s, whereas Cerebus has lived a long, long time and looks it.
19th Jul '16 7:42:09 PM Bicorn
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* OrphanedPunchline: Invoked by Cerebus in ''Latter Days'' when he recounts the most disgusting thing he ever said and spares his audience everything but the punchline.

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* OrphanedPunchline: Invoked by Cerebus in ''Latter Days'' when he recounts the most disgusting thing he ever said and spares his audience everything but the punchline.[[note]]"...the worst part was trying to get the diaper back on after!"[[/note]]
15th Jul '16 1:14:51 PM Willbyr
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** ''Jaka's Story'' fills in some important parts of her childhood and adolescence. However, as these parts are from Oscar's read about her based on anecdotes from Rick, [[[[UnreliableNarrator the reader doesn't know what really happened and what is Oscar filling in the gaps]] with his...[[PurpleProse florid writing]].



* BestHerToBedHer: Yet another layer of the Film/RedSonja parody. Red Sophia's father hires Cerebus to torture the man who besmirched her honor. During the journey her logorrhea is too much, they fight, he wins, she pledges service. (He refused to demand sexual favors from her at that point, instead trying to teach her a lesson by using her as a pack mule. She didn't learn; Sophia is simply TooKinkyToTorture.) The eventual torture is forcing the blackguard (who saw her naked) to marry Sophia. Years later she marries Cerebus.

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* BestHerToBedHer: Yet another layer of the Film/RedSonja parody. Red Sophia's father hires Cerebus to torture the man who besmirched her honor. During the journey her logorrhea is too much, they fight, he wins, she pledges service. (He refused to demand sexual favors from her at that point, instead trying to teach her a lesson by using her as a pack mule. She didn't learn; Sophia is simply TooKinkyToTorture.) The eventual torture is forcing the blackguard (who saw her naked) to marry Sophia. Years However, years later she marries Cerebus.ends up married to Cerebus (she much more happy about the prospect than he, given the circumstances).



--->(''Sophia and Cerebus are drinking and talking; she'd tried to put the moves on Cerebus earlier, to no avail'')\\

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--->(''Sophia --->*''Sophia and Cerebus are drinking and talking; she'd tried to put the moves on Cerebus earlier, to no avail'')\\avail''*\\



* DeathSeeker: In ''Latter Days'', [[spoiler:Cerebus eventually decides to stop aimlessly wandering around waiting to die and let the Cirinists do the job]].

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* DeathSeeker: In ''Latter Days'', [[spoiler:Cerebus eventually decides to stop aimlessly wandering around waiting to die and let the Cirinists do the job]]. [[SubvertedTrope However]], [[spoiler:the Wise Fellows get to him before the Cirinists do]].



* FatalFlaw: Cerebus' fixation on Jaka, combined with his simple-minded, self-absorbed outlook on life. In his mind, they are meant to be together simply because he loves her. When "Dave" shows Cerebus in ''Minds'' that Jaka doesn't love him romantically anymore, and that Cerebus doesn't understand Jaka at all, he can't handle it and tries to manipulate "Dave" into ''making'' Jaka love him "that way". "Dave" responds by showing him multiple possible futures where the two are in a relationship, all of which are horribly flawed no matter how Cerebus tries to get "Dave" to fix him so they will work, due to Cerebus' selfishness, controlling ways, and propensity for violence, which are fundamentally incompatible with Jaka's need for freedom and artistic expression. Their time together in ''Going Home'' and ''Form and Void'' is marked by their initial happiness and passion slowly but steadily crumbling as their personalities and what each wants for the future clash more and more, and eventually explosively crashing. At the end of ''Latter Days'', Cerebus falls for the reporter who looks a lot like Jaka, [[spoiler:and this sows the seeds for his eventual ruin and demise]].

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* FatalFlaw: Cerebus' fixation on Jaka, combined with his simple-minded, self-absorbed outlook on life. In his mind, they are meant to be together simply because he loves her. When "Dave" shows Cerebus in ''Minds'' that Jaka doesn't love him romantically anymore, and that Cerebus doesn't understand Jaka at all, he can't handle it and tries to manipulate "Dave" into ''making'' Jaka love him "that way". "Dave" responds by showing him multiple possible futures where the two are in a relationship, all of which are horribly flawed no matter how Cerebus tries to get "Dave" to fix him so they will work, due to Cerebus' inherent selfishness, controlling ways, and propensity for violence, which are fundamentally incompatible with Jaka's need for freedom and artistic expression. Their time together in ''Going Home'' and ''Form and Void'' is marked by their initial happiness and passion slowly but steadily crumbling as their personalities and what each wants for the future clash more and more, and eventually explosively crashing. At the end of ''Latter Days'', Cerebus falls for the reporter who looks a lot like Jaka, [[spoiler:and this sows the seeds for his eventual ruin and demise]].



* GoIntoTheLight: Subverted. [[spoiler:Cerebus dies, and is eventually dragged kicking and screaming into the Light. This, plus Rick not being in the light with all the other characters, pretty much indicates that Cerebus went to Hell given that by the comic's end, the light was associated with the YHWH.]] This was all fine and good until Sim suddenly decided he wanted an even more BrokenBase than he already had. In the author annotations to the final trade paperback, [[spoiler:Sim mentions the possibility that Cerebus actually went to Heaven and was just panicking needlessly at the last second.]]

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* GoIntoTheLight: Subverted. [[spoiler:Cerebus dies, and is eventually dragged kicking and screaming into the Light. This, plus Rick not being in the light with all the other characters, pretty much indicates that Cerebus went to Hell given that by the comic's end, the light was associated with the YHWH.]] This was all fine and good until Sim suddenly decided he wanted an even more BrokenBase than he already had. In the author annotations to the final trade paperback, [[spoiler:Sim mentions the possibility that Cerebus actually went to Heaven and was just panicking needlessly at the last second.]]second]].



** The YHWH, in a metaphysical sense. Sim believes it tries to cover all genders at once, and refers to it as "he/she/it", as opposed to God who is inherently masculine. Interestingly, if you interpret what happens in the final issue as [[spoiler:"Cerebus goes to hell"]], then the apparitions of Bear, Jaka, and Ham Ernestway that appear to Cerebus in the light take on a dual meaning - they're not only the three people Cerebus is most eager to be with, [[spoiler:they represent the three aspects of the YHWH - masculine Bear, feminine Jaka, and neutered Ham ("unmanned" by both Mary's hints about his sexual preferences and his suicide)]], and are thus the perfect lure to trap Cerebus.

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** The YHWH, in a metaphysical sense. Sim believes it tries to cover all genders at once, and refers to it as "he/she/it", as opposed to God who is inherently masculine. Interestingly, if you interpret what happens in the final issue as [[spoiler:"Cerebus goes to hell"]], then the apparitions of Bear, Jaka, and Ham Ernestway that appear to Cerebus in the light take on a dual meaning - they're meaning--they're not only the three people Cerebus is most eager to be with, [[spoiler:they represent the three aspects of the YHWH - masculine Bear, feminine Jaka, and neutered Ham ("unmanned" by both Mary's hints about his sexual preferences and his suicide)]], and are thus the perfect lure to trap Cerebus.



* LionsAndTigersAndHumansOhMy [=/=] SeldomSeenSpecies: Aardvarks are not at all common, but have appeared enough times throughout Estarcion's history that it's not a cause for public wonder. [[spoiler:That ''three'' aardvarks are running around at one time, on the other hand, is exceedingly rare.]]

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* LionsAndTigersAndHumansOhMy [=/=] SeldomSeenSpecies: LionsAndTigersAndHumansOhMy: Aardvarks [[SeldomSeenSpecies are not at all common, common]], but have appeared enough times throughout Estarcion's history that it's not a cause for public wonder. [[spoiler:That ''three'' aardvarks are running around at one time, on the other hand, is exceedingly rare.]]



* MadScientist: Necross (although he's technically a mad wizard, but still...)

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* MadScientist: Necross (although he's technically (technically a mad wizard, but still...)



* TheMagicGoesAway: All of the weird esoterics and mysticism that is prevalent through ''Minds'' slowly but surely fades away to be replaced by the more directly religious themes.

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* TheMagicGoesAway: All of the weird esoterics and mysticism that is prevalent through ''Minds'' slowly but surely fades away to be replaced by the more directly religious themes. It ''really'' goes away when [[spoiler:Cerebus' magnifier is destroyed]].



-->'''Jaka''' (''after drinking what she thinks is water''): Yuck! It looks like water but it tastes like...watery beer!\\

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-->'''Jaka''' (''after -->'''Jaka''': *''after drinking what she thinks is water''): water''* Yuck! It looks like water but it tastes like...watery beer!\\



* MaleGaze: Those parts of ''Jaka's Story'' told from Pud Withers' point of view.

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* MaleGaze: Those parts of ''Jaka's Story'' told from Pud Withers' point of view.view, especially in the evenings when Jaka's sitting around in her dancing costumes.



** Cerebus and New Joanne. Her age isn't revealed but when the reader first sees her, she appears to be somewhere in her 20s, whereas Cerebus has lived a long, long time and looks it.

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** Cerebus and New Joanne. Her age isn't revealed but when the reader first sees her, but she appears to be somewhere in her 20s, whereas Cerebus has lived a long, long time and looks it.



** This pops up twice in ''Jaka's Story''. In the early issues, it's strongly implied that Jaka was molested as a young child. Sim later all but confirmed this, hinting (but later Jossing) [[spoiler:Julius]] as the culprit. Near the end, Pud's inner narration of his interactions with Jaka begins to turn very dark, as he starts contemplating raping her. [[spoiler:However, when he finally works up the nerve to attempt this, it's interrupted by a customer]].
* ReallyDeadMontage: An entire page is devoted to one after [[spoiler:Cerebus breaks his neck and his body finishes falling to the floor]].

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** This pops up twice in ''Jaka's Story''. In the early issues, it's strongly implied that Jaka was molested as a young child. Sim later all but confirmed this, hinting (but later Jossing) [[spoiler:Julius]] as the culprit. Near the end, Pud's inner narration of his interactions with Jaka begins to turn very dark, as he starts contemplating raping her. [[spoiler:However, when he finally works up the nerve to attempt this, [[SubvertedTrope it's interrupted by a customer]].
customer]].]]
* ReallyDeadMontage: An entire page is devoted to one after [[spoiler:Cerebus breaks his neck and his body finishes falling to the floor]].floor, with the flashback panels interspersed with the life fading from Cerebus' eyes]].
15th Jul '16 9:34:27 AM Willbyr
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* AccidentallyBrokeTheMacGuffin: Cerebus unwittingly ruined his original destiny by [[spoiler:selling his helmet]]. If he'd had [[spoiler:the full set of helmet/medallions/sword when he came upon the Pigts' aardvark idol, it would've come to live as a mecha-like monstrosity and given him the power to conquer the world]]. Whoops.



* DismantledMacGuffin: [[spoiler:Cerebus' helmet, medallions, and sword]] from the first issue. [[spoiler:Crafted by the first of his aardvark ancestors, they would have given Cerebus the power to conquer the world if he'd had them when he found the Pigt idol...but he sold the helmet a few issues prior.]]



* ForWantOfANail: "Dave" reveals to Cerebus in ''Minds'' that [[spoiler:the entire series, except for the first issue or so, has been a chaotic, fractured version of what should have been Cerebus' real destiny--bring the Pigt altar to life with the aardvark artifacts and lead the Pigts to conquer the world--because he didn't have all three of them at the time]].

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* ForWantOfANail: "Dave" reveals to Cerebus in ''Minds'' that [[spoiler:the entire series, except for the first issue or so, has been a chaotic, fractured version of what should have been Cerebus' real destiny--bring the Pigt altar to life with the aardvark artifacts (his helmet, medallions, and sword) and lead the Pigts to conquer the world--because he didn't have all three of them at the time]].
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