History ComicBook / AvengersForever

27th Feb '17 5:09:37 PM Omnicron13
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* BadFuture: It begins with one. Earth is TheEmpire of the Universe, and the Avengers are the PraetorianGuard. Also the one visited by Giant Man and Captain America, similar to the "War of the Worlds".

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* BadFuture: It begins with one. Earth is and humanity becomes TheEmpire of the Universe, and the Avengers are the PraetorianGuard.PraetorianGuard as humanity carves a campaign of subjugation across the cosmos as a brutal, enslaving army. Also the one visited by Giant Man and Captain America, similar to the "War of the Worlds".



* OrderVersusChaos:

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* OrderVersusChaos: Immortus is firmly on the side of preserving universal stability and order, while Kang wants to preserve his freedom at the cost of bringing down the multiversal timeline like a house of cards.



* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Deconstructed. Someone might wonder, with all the fancy technology available in the Marvel universe, which includes ships capable to go to other galaxies, why does Earth still has the overall technological level of the real world? Answer: because Immortus, GuardianOfTheMultiverse, is arranging things to stay that way.

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* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Deconstructed. Someone might wonder, with all the fancy technology available in the Marvel universe, which includes ships capable to go to other galaxies, why does Earth still has the overall technological level of the real world? Answer: because Immortus, GuardianOfTheMultiverse, is arranging things to stay that way.way until mankind's technology does not outstrip its moral judgments.
27th Feb '17 4:24:07 PM Omnicron13
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The Time Keepers decided that humanity was a menace, and that they should destroy most timelines, leaving the bare minimum. Reinforced by Kang, Rick and the Supreme Intelligence, the Avengers followed the Time Keepers to the end of time, where they were finally destroyed.

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The Time Keepers decided that humanity was a menace, and that they should destroy most timelines, leaving the bare minimum.minimum needed to guarantee their own existence. Reinforced by Kang, Rick and the Supreme Intelligence, the Avengers followed the Time Keepers to the end of time, where they were finally destroyed.



* BadFuture: It begins with one. Earth is TheEmpire, and the Avengers are the PraetorianGuard. Also the one visited by Giant Man and Captain America, similar to the "War of the Worlds".

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* BadFuture: It begins with one. Earth is TheEmpire, TheEmpire of the Universe, and the Avengers are the PraetorianGuard. Also the one visited by Giant Man and Captain America, similar to the "War of the Worlds".
23rd Aug '16 11:33:32 PM Anicomicgeek
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* {{Retcon}}: A lot of this story was basically damage control for ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', revealing that it was Immortus and not Kang who was the main villain, that ComicBook/IronMan was only under Immortus's control since the events of ''ComicBook/OperationGalacticStorm'' (and that Iron Man leading half of the Avengers to kill the Kree Supreme Intelligence was an attempt to keep the Avengers out of intergalactic affairs that [[NiceJobFixingItVillain backfired]]) and not since the beginning, the "Mantis" who worked with "Kang" and many other of his minions were Space Phantoms, and that Kang didn't cause [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]]'s breakdowns.

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* {{Retcon}}: A lot of this story was basically damage control for ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'', revealing that it was Immortus and not Kang who was the main villain, that ComicBook/IronMan was only under Immortus's control since the events of ''ComicBook/OperationGalacticStorm'' (and that Iron Man leading half of the Avengers to kill the Kree Supreme Intelligence was an attempt to keep the Avengers out of intergalactic affairs that [[NiceJobFixingItVillain backfired]]) and not since the beginning, Avengers first fought Kang, the "Mantis" who worked with "Kang" and many other of his minions were Space Phantoms, and that Kang didn't cause [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]]'s breakdowns.
8th Mar '16 1:45:10 AM rotheryAM
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* BroadStrokes: Despite all the ContinuityPorn on display, there are a few tidbits that can't be spelled out directly. A panel showing Doctor Octopus escaping prison with Lex Luthor in tow from the first Superman/Spider-Man crossover is mentioned in the annotations as being Doc Ock and a "distinguished gentleman."


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* CallBack: In [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Future Imperfect]], [[spoiler:a much older version of Rick Jones]] maintains a memorial room of the many heroes who died over the years (most, presumably, murdered by the Maestro, but that's neither here nor there). Here, a less aged version of the same character wears an outfit made up from parts of other heroes.


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* NoodleIncident: Excatly how does [[spoiler:future Rick Jones]] end up losing an arm and wearing an outfit that includes Ghost Rider's jacket, Falcon's boots, [[spoiler:Superman's cape]], and [[spoiler:Batman's utility belt]]? The world may never know.
19th Feb '16 2:29:08 AM Malitia
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* AbortedArc: Both Songbird and Genis-Vell are from the near future, where they are (unlike in the present day) members of the Avengers. Since Kurt Busiek was writing the main ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' book at the time, it seemed that he would eventually introduce Songbird and Genis into the Avengers roster there, with the present day catching up with their future. But this never happened, and none of the later Avengers writers have chosen to follow up on Busiek's {{foreshadowing}} either. Until '''2015''' and Al Ewing (who is very big on ContinuityPorn), when 616-Songbird finally became part of the ''Comicbook/{{New Avengers|2015}}'', that lineup interestingly also included 616-Genis-Vell's half-brother [[Comicbook/YoungAvengers Hulkling]].

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* AbortedArc: Both Songbird and Genis-Vell are from the near future, where they are (unlike in the present day) members of the Avengers. Since Kurt Busiek was writing the main ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' book at the time, it seemed that he would eventually introduce Songbird and Genis into the Avengers roster there, with the present day catching up with their future. But this never happened, and none of the later Avengers writers have chosen to follow up on Busiek's {{foreshadowing}} either. Until '''2015''' and Al Ewing Creator/AlEwing (who is very big on ContinuityPorn), when 616-Songbird finally became part of the ''Comicbook/{{New Avengers|2015}}'', that lineup interestingly also included 616-Genis-Vell's half-brother [[Comicbook/YoungAvengers Hulkling]].
6th Feb '16 8:26:20 AM DannWoolf
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* ThrowingOffTheDisability: The Hulk had left Rick Jones crippled, and begins the story that way. He managed to heal himself with the "Destiny Force".

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* ThrowingOffTheDisability: The Hulk had left Rick Jones crippled, and begins the story that way. He managed to heal himself with the "Destiny Force".Destiny Force.
6th Feb '16 8:25:44 AM DannWoolf
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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Immortus had to made the Avengers return to Earth immediately after "Operation: Galactic Storm", so he influenced the Avengers with xenophobia, so that they refused to stay among alien races. He miscalculated: this xenophobia led them to execute the Supreme Intelligence for destroying its own empire (long story). And worse: this would began actions that laid the first steps of Avengers Stellar Corps, the antecedent of the First Terran Empire... the very timeline that Immortus was instructed to prevent!

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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Immortus had to made make the Avengers return to Earth immediately after "Operation: Galactic Storm", so he influenced the Avengers with xenophobia, so that they refused to stay among alien races. He miscalculated: this xenophobia led them to execute the Supreme Intelligence for destroying its own empire (long story). And worse: this would began actions that laid the first steps of Avengers Stellar Corps, the antecedent of the First Terran Empire... the very timeline that Immortus was instructed to prevent!
6th Feb '16 8:25:03 AM DannWoolf
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* HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct: With the Forever Crystal, Captain America could have changed history. And not simply creating an alternate timeline, the Crystal allows to actually change history. He could have erased Nazi Germany from history and prevented World War II (as well as resurrecting Rick Jones, Bucky and erasing the Secret Empire from U.S. history), he was tempted by the idea, but realized that RealityWarpingIsNotAToy.

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* HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct: With the Forever Crystal, Captain America could have changed history. And not simply creating an alternate timeline, the Crystal allows him to actually change history. He could have erased Nazi Germany from history and prevented World War II (as well as resurrecting Rick Jones, Bucky and erasing the Secret Empire from U.S. history), he was tempted by the idea, but realized that RealityWarpingIsNotAToy.
6th Feb '16 8:24:26 AM DannWoolf
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* ButYouWereThereAndYouAndYou: When Songbird return to the future, with a vague memory of the Destiny War... she was with the Wasp and Jack of Hearths, and told the Wasp that "you were there".

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* ButYouWereThereAndYouAndYou: When Songbird return returns to the future, with a vague memory of the Destiny War... she was with the Wasp and Jack of Hearths, and told the Wasp that "you were there".
6th Feb '16 8:22:22 AM DannWoolf
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The Avengers used a time machine of Kang to escape into the timestream, where Immortus would not locate Rick. Not knowing what is Immortus up to, or why does he want to kill Jones, the Avengers explored 3 points of time, to no avail. Then, they visited Limbo, Immortus' stronghold, and took a Space Phantom captive. The problem is basically this: with the "Destiny Force", humanity would become a conquering empire. Immortus spent years [[TheChessmaster manipulating human development]] to keep humanity confined to planet Earth, as to avoid the Time Keepers from destroying it, but Rick Jones' death was non-negotiable. Immortus then captured the Avengers and sent them to a trial.

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The Avengers used a time machine of Kang to escape into the timestream, where Immortus would not locate Rick. Not knowing what is Immortus up to, or why does he want wants to kill Jones, the Avengers explored 3 points of time, to no avail. Then, they visited Limbo, Immortus' stronghold, and took a Space Phantom captive. The problem is basically this: with the "Destiny Force", humanity would become a conquering empire. Immortus spent years [[TheChessmaster manipulating human development]] to keep humanity confined to planet Earth, as to avoid the Time Keepers from destroying it, but Rick Jones' death was non-negotiable. Immortus then captured the Avengers and sent them to a trial.
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