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22nd Sep '17 4:49:48 PM Lopiny
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** Tagon. His first pugil-stick practice with Schlock involved [[spoiler:slicing Schlock, and his pugil stick, in half with a concealed RazorFloss wire hidden in his shoes. Don't worry, Schlock can survive that sort of thing.]]. His second, against the neophant Chisulo, involved lobbing the pugil stick into his opponent's {{eye|Scream}} from across the ring. ''[[BigBookOfWar The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries]]'' deals heavily in this trope; Maxim 31 even explicitly states "Only cheaters prosper".

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** Tagon. His first pugil-stick practice with Schlock involved [[spoiler:slicing Schlock, and his pugil stick, in half with a concealed RazorFloss wire hidden in his shoes. Don't worry, Schlock can survive that sort of thing.]]. His second, against the neophant Chisulo, involved lobbing the pugil stick into his opponent's {{eye|Scream}} from across the ring. And then, at a later wargame with sticky rounds as ordnance, he cheated by asking the ship to [[GravityMaster use some applied gravitics to mess with the enemy team's shots]]. ''[[BigBookOfWar The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries]]'' deals heavily in this trope; Maxim 31 even explicitly states "Only cheaters prosper".
8th May '17 4:34:20 AM MattII
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** Maxim #31 of the oft-quoted "Seventy Maxims o Maximally Effective Mercenaries" is 'Only cheaters prosper'. Therefore it's a rare to find a major character who doesn't use this.
14th Sep '16 8:21:04 AM Discar
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** Meiji proves she has a pragmatist streak after she [[spoiler:ascends to godhood]]. When Ian fought the elves with [[spoiler:his newly-acquired divine power]], he blew up their city, fought the entire elven army at once, and then fought the fake human god. When the elves threaten Meiji, she says that if ''she'' decides to fight them, she'll just stop their hearts.

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** Meiji Meji proves she has a pragmatist streak after she [[spoiler:ascends to godhood]]. When Ian fought the elves with [[spoiler:his newly-acquired divine power]], he blew up their city, fought the entire elven army at once, and then fought the fake human god. When the elves threaten Meiji, Meji, she says that if ''she'' decides to fight them, she'll just stop their hearts.
14th Sep '16 8:20:19 AM Discar
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* In ''Webcomic/ErrantStory'', Jon Amraphel is the only main character without any magical ability. How does he cope with fighting MagicKnight elven military, [[WarriorMonk monks]] with BulletTime SuperSpeed, and tiny fairy demigods? By a) being [[TheGunslinger very good with guns]], and b) cheating like hell. Being a semi-retired assassin, he does his best to avoid anything like a face-to-face fight.

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* In ''Webcomic/ErrantStory'', ''Webcomic/ErrantStory'':
**
Jon Amraphel is the only main character without any magical ability. How does he cope with fighting MagicKnight elven military, [[WarriorMonk monks]] with BulletTime SuperSpeed, and tiny fairy demigods? By a) being [[TheGunslinger very good with guns]], and b) cheating like hell. Being a semi-retired assassin, he does his best to avoid anything like a face-to-face fight.fight.
** Meiji proves she has a pragmatist streak after she [[spoiler:ascends to godhood]]. When Ian fought the elves with [[spoiler:his newly-acquired divine power]], he blew up their city, fought the entire elven army at once, and then fought the fake human god. When the elves threaten Meiji, she says that if ''she'' decides to fight them, she'll just stop their hearts.
14th Sep '16 8:16:37 AM Discar
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* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' the end of Agatha and Othar's [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040924 little talk]] [[spoiler: she pushes him over the side of an airship.]]
** [[MetaGuy Othar]] apparently has the catchphrase "[[LampshadeHanging Foul!]]" for whenever this sort of thing happens.

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* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' the ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'':
** The
end of Agatha and Othar's [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040924 little talk]] [[spoiler: she pushes him over the side of an airship.]]
**
]] [[MetaGuy Othar]] apparently has the catchphrase "[[LampshadeHanging Foul!]]" for whenever this sort of thing happens.



--->[[spoiler:'''Zola Anya Talinka Venia Zeblinkya Malfeazium''']]: Bringing a ''knife'' to a ''gun fight'' doesn't seem very smart, now does it?
--->'''Agatha Heterodyne''': Well, I suppose it isn't that much worse than bringing a gun to a [[ClockworkCreature clank]] fight.

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--->[[spoiler:'''Zola Anya Talinka Venia Zeblinkya Malfeazium''']]: Bringing a ''knife'' to a ''gun fight'' doesn't seem very smart, now does it?
--->'''Agatha
it?\\
'''Agatha
Heterodyne''': Well, I suppose it isn't that much worse than bringing a gun to a [[ClockworkCreature clank]] fight.



--->'''General Zog''': Killink hyu enemies ''alvays'' counts.
--->'''General Zog''': Iz ''still cheating''. But in der ''GOOT'' way!
* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Haley has no problem fighting ''very'' dirty. For example, she [[spoiler: ambushed Crystal as she was in the shower, catching her without her weapons, armor, and protective jewelry, and killed her while she was stunned on the floor.]] It might be argued that this is dishonorable, but aside from that being the whole ''point'', Haley is ChaoticGood, not ChaoticStupid.
** Who could forget her approach to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0327.html the test of the mind]]? Or, for that matter, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0565.html the return trip]]?
** Considering Haley's class and the above commentary on D&D rogues, this is justified.
** Belkar also fits into this category, being quite willing to fight sneakily with a paladin and either taking potshots or using traps against her.
*** When he knocked said paladin unconscious, however, he actually waited until she woke up again instead of simply killing her. He even let her believe that she had merely become dizzy for a few seconds. He ''did'' steal and drink her healing potions while he had the chance, however.
*** For [[HeroicComedicSociopath Belkar]], this was less about being honorable and more about pissing her off. Obviously, he can't annoy her if she's out cold. Not to mention that his plan had been [[spoiler:to let her kill him so that she lost her Paladin powers, while he could always get resurrected later]].
*** In addition, when Belkar was confronted with the son of a Kobold he had killed, who was in full [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya revenge mode]], he was unable to kill him due to [[spoiler: his Mark of Justice]]. So does he accept his fate? [[KarmaHoudini Hell no]]! He simply hires mercenaries mid-fight to slay him.
---->'''Belkar''': "50 gp bonus to whoever makes him scream the loudest!"
*** Miko herself surpisingly pulled this off while appearing to be more of the HonorBeforeReason type. When facing a group of enemies, she rouses them all to wake up, allows them to pick up their weapons and even lets them eat first, allegedly so it'll be a fair fight. In truth, this was all a ploy to get them into one group so they could all be hit with the same attack.
** Belkar is an even better example in the prequel book ''On The Origin of [=PCs=]'':
-->'''Guard:''' You knifed seventeen people in a tavern brawl.
-->'''Belkar:''' Hey, its not my fault they brought fists to a knife fight.
-->'''Guard:''' It wasn't a knife fight until ''you'' started stabbing people!

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--->'''General Zog''': Killink hyu enemies ''alvays'' counts.
--->'''General
counts.\\
'''General
Zog''': Iz ''still cheating''. But in der ''GOOT'' way!
* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
**
Haley has no problem fighting ''very'' dirty. For example, she [[spoiler: ambushed Crystal as she was in the shower, catching her without her weapons, armor, and protective jewelry, and killed her while she was stunned on the floor.]] It might be argued that this is dishonorable, but aside from that being the whole ''point'', Haley is ChaoticGood, not ChaoticStupid.
**
ChaoticStupid. Who could forget her approach to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0327.html the test of the mind]]? Or, for that matter, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0565.html the return trip]]?
**
trip]]? Considering Haley's class and the above commentary on D&D rogues, this is justified.
** Belkar also fits into this category, being category.
*** He was
quite willing to fight sneakily with a paladin and either taking potshots or using traps against her.
***
her. When he knocked said paladin her unconscious, however, he actually waited until she woke up again instead of simply killing her. He even let her believe that she had merely become dizzy for a few seconds. He ''did'' steal and drink her healing potions while he had the chance, however.
***
chance. For [[HeroicComedicSociopath Belkar]], this was less about being honorable and more about pissing her off. Obviously, he can't annoy her if she's out cold. Not to mention that his plan had been [[spoiler:to let her kill him so that she lost her Paladin powers, while he could always get resurrected later]].
*** In addition, when When Belkar was confronted with the son of a Kobold he had killed, who was in full [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya revenge mode]], he was unable to kill him due to [[spoiler: his Mark of Justice]]. So does he accept his fate? [[KarmaHoudini Hell no]]! He simply hires mercenaries mid-fight to slay him.
---->'''Belkar''': "50 50 gp bonus to whoever makes him scream the loudest!"
loudest!
*** Belkar is an even better example in the prequel book ''On The Origin of [=PCs=]'':
---->'''Guard:''' You knifed seventeen people in a tavern brawl.\\
'''Belkar:''' Hey, its not my fault they brought fists to a knife fight.\\
'''Guard:''' It wasn't a knife fight until ''you'' started stabbing people!
**
Miko herself surpisingly surprisingly pulled this off while appearing to be more of the HonorBeforeReason type. When facing a group of enemies, she rouses them all to wake up, allows them to pick up their weapons and even lets them eat first, allegedly so it'll be a fair fight. In truth, this was all a ploy to get them into one group so they could all be hit with the same attack.
** Belkar is an even better example in the prequel book ''On The Origin of [=PCs=]'':
-->'''Guard:''' You knifed seventeen people in a tavern brawl.
-->'''Belkar:''' Hey, its not my fault they brought fists to a knife fight.
-->'''Guard:''' It wasn't a knife fight until ''you'' started stabbing people!
attack.



-->'''[[spoiler: Zz'dtri]]:''' Cheater.
-->'''Vaarsuvius''': Oh heavens! I cannot believe I violated the detailed rules and regulations we agreed upon before starting this contest! We must consult the referee for an appropriate penalty regarding my heinous transgression!
** In the same fight, no less, rather than letting skill or stats win out, Zz'dtri had specifically tailored all his spells and abilities to counter V's.

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-->'''[[spoiler: --->'''[[spoiler: Zz'dtri]]:''' Cheater.
-->'''Vaarsuvius''':
Cheater.\\
'''Vaarsuvius''':
Oh heavens! I cannot believe I violated the detailed rules and regulations we agreed upon before starting this contest! We must consult the referee for an appropriate penalty regarding my heinous transgression!
** In the same fight, no less, rather than letting skill or stats win out, Zz'dtri [[spoiler:Zz'dtri]] had specifically tailored all his spells and abilities to counter V's.



--> '''Redcloak''': Stupid risks are just that: stupid. Crush him.

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--> ---> '''Redcloak''': Stupid risks are just that: stupid. Crush him.



---> '''Xykon (paraphrased):''' ... I've found that only two things really matter. Power, in as great a quantity as you can muster, and style... and in a pinch, style can slide.

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---> '''Xykon (paraphrased):''' ...'''Xykon:''' ... I've found that only two things really matter. Power, in as great a quantity as you can muster, and style... and in a pinch, style can slide.



* Tagon, from ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary''. His first pugil-stick practice with Schlock involved [[spoiler:slicing Schlock, and his pugil stick, in half with a concealed RazorFloss wire hidden in his shoes. Don't worry, Schlock can survive that sort of thing.]]. His second, against the neophant Chisulo, involved lobbing the pugil stick into his opponent's {{eye|Scream}} from across the ring. ''[[BigBookOfWar The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries]]'' deals heavily in this trope; Maxim 31 even explicitly states "Only cheaters prosper".
-->'''Chisulo''': I'm pretty sure that's cheating.
-->'''Tagon''': I'm sorry, did you just say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
-->'''Chisulo''': Thank you sir! Point...um...taken.

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* Tagon, from ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary''.''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'':
** Tagon.
His first pugil-stick practice with Schlock involved [[spoiler:slicing Schlock, and his pugil stick, in half with a concealed RazorFloss wire hidden in his shoes. Don't worry, Schlock can survive that sort of thing.]]. His second, against the neophant Chisulo, involved lobbing the pugil stick into his opponent's {{eye|Scream}} from across the ring. ''[[BigBookOfWar The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries]]'' deals heavily in this trope; Maxim 31 even explicitly states "Only cheaters prosper".
-->'''Chisulo''': --->'''Chisulo''': I'm pretty sure that's cheating.
-->'''Tagon''':
cheating.\\
'''Tagon''':
I'm sorry, did you just say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
-->'''Chisulo''':
another?"\\
'''Chisulo''':
Thank you sir! Point...um...taken.



* Bun-Bun from ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' just plain ''loves'' this trope. Some examples:
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=981222 Setting up bombs to kill the Ghost of Christmas Past.]]
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990214 Smashing a demon's glasses]] then [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990215 tricking it into climbing into a meat grinder.]]
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990324 Offering to settle things peacefully]] before attacking with an AerosolFlamethrower.
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990328 Pulling out a surprise bazooka.]]
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990330 Putting his "friends" in rabbit costumes to act as decoys.]]
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990404 Using a robot's programming to make it jump into molten steel.]]
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=010624 Shoving a gun up someone's nose, then, when they try to dig it out, hit them with a barstool]] [[{{Gorn}} setting the gun off and driving their arm elbow deep into their own head, simultaneously]].
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=010701 Throwing someone out the airlock.]]
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=010723 Using a spaceship's artificial gravity to knock people out.]]
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=050222 Using knockout gas to capture a bunch of villagers]]
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=050925 Electrocuting his opponent.]]
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=051211 And hitting him with a log from behind.]]
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=060115 And setting him on fire.]]
** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=060118 And cutting his limbs off with hedge clippers.]]
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=090518 Threatening to kill the person his opponent loves, throwing a flower pot at their face to distract them, then running off to follow through on their threat.]]
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=090528 Trying to slow his opponent down by giving her some "innocent bystanders to slice up."]]
** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=090605 Pulling a gun during a knife fight.]] Scratch that. Pulling a gun ''out of {{Hammerspace}}'' during a knife fight.
*** [[http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/080425 torg facing lod moldy pantss in a magic duel pulls out a shot gun]] [[http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/080504 he also shot first]]
*** [[http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/020622 torg and the truth brick]]

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* ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'':
**
Bun-Bun from ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' just plain ''loves'' this trope. Some examples:
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=981222 Setting up bombs to kill the Ghost of Christmas Past.]]
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990214 Smashing a demon's glasses]] then [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990215 tricking it into climbing into a meat grinder.]]
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990324 Offering to settle things peacefully]] before attacking with an AerosolFlamethrower.
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990328 Pulling out a surprise bazooka.]]
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990330 Putting his "friends" in rabbit costumes to act as decoys.]]
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=990404 Using a robot's programming to make it jump into molten steel.]]
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=010624 Shoving a gun up someone's nose, then, when they try to dig it out, hit them with a barstool]] [[{{Gorn}} setting the gun off and driving their arm elbow deep into their own head, simultaneously]].
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=010701 Throwing someone out the airlock.]]
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=010723 Using a spaceship's artificial gravity to knock people out.]]
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=050222 Using knockout gas to capture a bunch of villagers]]
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=050925 Electrocuting his opponent.]]
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=051211 And hitting him with a log from behind.]]
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=060115 And setting him on fire.]]
** *** [[http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=060118 And cutting his limbs off with hedge clippers.]]
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=090518 Threatening to kill the person his opponent loves, throwing a flower pot at their face to distract them, then running off to follow through on their threat.]]
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=090528 Trying to slow his opponent down by giving her some "innocent bystanders to slice up."]]
** *** [[http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=090605 Pulling a gun during a knife fight.]] Scratch that. Pulling a gun ''out of {{Hammerspace}}'' during a knife fight.
]]
** Torg:
*** [[http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/080425 torg Torg facing lod moldy pantss Lord Moldy Pants in a magic duel pulls out a shot gun]] shotgun.]] [[http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/080504 he He also shot first]]
first.]]
*** [[http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/020622 torg Torg and the truth brick]]brick.]]



* Mr. Raven from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''
-->'''Wizard:''' Have you no honor?
-->'''Raven:''' The lives of my students are more important.

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* Mr. Raven from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''
''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'':
-->'''Wizard:''' Feigned frailty, no "En guarde"... Have you no honor?
-->'''Raven:'''
honor?\\
'''Raven:'''
The lives of my students are more important.



* Jack Noir in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a big fan of teleporting behind people and stabbing them in the back. Though he is omnipotent, so perhaps he doesn't count.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'':
**
Jack Noir in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is a big fan of teleporting behind people and stabbing them in the back. Though he is omnipotent, so perhaps he doesn't count.
30th Jul '16 8:45:27 AM Discar
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* In ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'', [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Math]] is confronted by a Wolverine knock-off villain with impenetrable skin and unstoppable claws. Just when Math's looking forward to an [[WorthyOpponent interesting fight]], Sidney uses her [[CombatTentacles whipcoil orb]] to [[http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1331 stick the foe's own claws into his chest]].
--> '''Sidney:''' ''[to a [[DeathGlare glowering]] Math]'' What? Clearly, one of those statements was false.

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* In ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'', ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'':
**
[[ArrogantKungFuGuy Math]] is confronted by a Wolverine knock-off villain with impenetrable skin and unstoppable claws. Just when Math's looking forward to an [[WorthyOpponent interesting fight]], Sidney uses her [[CombatTentacles whipcoil orb]] to [[http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1331 stick the foe's own claws into his chest]].
--> ---> '''Sidney:''' ''[to a [[DeathGlare glowering]] Math]'' What? Clearly, one of those statements was false.false.
** Maxima is the most powerful super in the world by a large margin, to the point that she is capable of literally nuking things and surviving worse. She is also a soldier, and was taught to be a ruthlessly efficient fighter. When fighting Vehemence, she had Peggy [[EyeScream shoot him in the eye]] with an [[{{BFG}} anti-materiel rifle]], used the distraction to knock him to the ground, stomped on his crotch (though he dodged that one) hard enough to leave a ten-foot crater, punched him a hundred feet into a construction site, used a concrete pillar to grind his face in, and then vaporized his arm.
--->'''Vehemence:''' Jesus ''Christ'' lady!



*** He does it again in the same arc during the climactic fight with Gackt, after the latter transforms into his ultimate [[spoiler:well, penultimate]] form. Rather than engage in another lengthy RPG-style duel, he declares that he's gonna "[[SailorMoon Moon Tiara Magic]] this bullshit," and simply climbs up and cuts Gackt's throat.

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*** ** He does it again in the same arc during the climactic fight with Gackt, after the latter transforms into his ultimate [[spoiler:well, penultimate]] form. Rather than engage in another lengthy RPG-style duel, he declares that he's gonna "[[SailorMoon Moon Tiara Magic]] this bullshit," and simply climbs up and cuts Gackt's throat.
25th Mar '16 5:49:44 PM Lopiny
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** Schlock himself is pretty pragmatic.

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** Schlock himself is pretty pragmatic.pragmatic, to the point arming him with a powerful gun is ''merciful''. He'll just devour his enemies alive otherwise.
12th Nov '15 7:40:09 PM MasamiPhoenix
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** In the same fight, no less, rather than letting skill or stats win out, Zz'dtri had specifically tailored all his spells and abilities to counter V's.
** The Black Dragon waited to attack Vaarsuuvius until after s/he had left her allies and had exhausted her higher level spells.
28th Jul '15 5:07:51 PM Prfnoff
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* TFA Prowl in the ''{{Insecticomics}}'' teaches his class to use any available item as a weapon. When Laserbeak tries to call him on this, [[http://www.insecticons.com/insecticomics/v5/437.html he kicks her aft with a sandwich.]]

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* TFA Prowl in the ''{{Insecticomics}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Insecticomics}}'' teaches his class to use any available item as a weapon. When Laserbeak tries to call him on this, [[http://www.insecticons.com/insecticomics/v5/437.html he kicks her aft with a sandwich.]]



* Karcharoth and Fenrir of ''CryHavoc'' do whatever they think they need to in order to survive and win.

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* Karcharoth and Fenrir of ''CryHavoc'' ''Webcomic/CryHavoc'' do whatever they think they need to in order to survive and win.



* In ''ErrantStory'', Jon Amraphel is the only main character without any magical ability. How does he cope with fighting MagicKnight elven military, [[WarriorMonk monks]] with BulletTime SuperSpeed, and tiny fairy demigods? By a) being [[TheGunslinger very good with guns]], and b) cheating like hell. Being a semi-retired assassin, he does his best to avoid anything like a face-to-face fight.

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* In ''ErrantStory'', ''Webcomic/ErrantStory'', Jon Amraphel is the only main character without any magical ability. How does he cope with fighting MagicKnight elven military, [[WarriorMonk monks]] with BulletTime SuperSpeed, and tiny fairy demigods? By a) being [[TheGunslinger very good with guns]], and b) cheating like hell. Being a semi-retired assassin, he does his best to avoid anything like a face-to-face fight.
7th May '15 7:49:46 AM Hello101
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** Redcloak has always been pragmatic, with examples such as using Titanium Elementals instead of Earth because they are lighter yet stronger (if distasteful, not being a "classic" element); walking his hobgoblin army into certain death because he only needs them as a distraction (prior to gaining a change of heart regarding racism); creating decoys of Xykon to make the heroes guess which one's real, but then having the real one take an entirely different method of approach; etc.

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** Redcloak has always been pragmatic, with examples such as using Titanium Elementals instead of Earth because they are lighter yet stronger just as strong (if distasteful, not being a "classic" element); walking his hobgoblin army into certain death because he only needs them as a distraction (prior to gaining a change of heart regarding racism); creating decoys of Xykon to make the heroes guess which one's real, but then having the real one take an entirely different method of approach; approach with Greater Invisibility; etc.



** Still later, however, he plays it strange when he is proposed to a fair fight [[spoiler: by Thanh]], who is held by an elemental summoned by Redcloak.

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** Still later, however, he plays it strange straight when he is proposed to a fair fight [[spoiler: by Thanh]], who is held by an elemental summoned by Redcloak.
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