History CombatPragmatist / ComicBooks

9th Dec '17 5:37:36 AM lillolillo
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* 2011 DC Universe reboot: [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] starts boasting to Franchise/{{Batman}} that with his ring, he can easily take down {{Superman}}. By the time Batman blinks, Superman has {{Flash Step}}ped up to Hal and punched him out. Later in that same story, Hal finally figures out that Batman has no super-powers and begins immediately pointing out how absurd it is for a normal human to be in the situations the Justice League finds themselves in. Mid-way through his rant Batman pickpockets his ring.

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* 2011 DC Universe reboot: [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] starts boasting to Franchise/{{Batman}} that with his ring, he can easily take down {{Superman}}.Franchise/{{Superman}}. By the time Batman blinks, Superman has {{Flash Step}}ped up to Hal and punched him out. Later in that same story, Hal finally figures out that Batman has no super-powers and begins immediately pointing out how absurd it is for a normal human to be in the situations the Justice League finds themselves in. Mid-way through his rant Batman pickpockets his ring.



* ComicBook/{{Superman}} can be like this when the situation allows. For instance, a ComicBook/PostCrisis story had him facing a dire threat and Metallo was standing in his way for a fight. Superman contemptuously responds he has no time to deal with the cyborg twerp and simply blasts limbs off with his heat vision until he is a pile of limbs and moves on. He often notes that he holds back a lot and tries to fight 'fair' in order to provide a good example, but in a tough situation will start to use his powers in many, many creative and nasty ways.

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* ComicBook/{{Superman}} can be like this when the ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
** Kryptonian heroes often hold back. Particularly Superman tries to fight 'fair' in order to provide a good example... but in a tough
situation allows. they will start to use their powers in many, many creative and nasty ways.
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For instance, a ComicBook/PostCrisis Post-Crisis story had him facing a dire threat and Metallo was standing in his way for a fight. Superman contemptuously responds he has no time to deal with the cyborg twerp and simply blasts limbs off with his heat vision until he is a pile of limbs and moves on. He often notes on.
** Getting Clark or Kara upset or angry is another way to encourage their "creativity". In ''ComicBook/ActionComics'' #775 "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, & the American Way?" Superman shows a team of murderous anti-heroes
that would happen if he holds back a lot embraced their methods and tries went all out. It's ''not'' pretty.
** In [[ComicBook/Supergirl2005 Post-Crisis]] story ''Way of the World'', ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} comes upon Clayface. Kara lets him have a couple of blows before showing him she isn't giving him a fair fight by freezing him solid, flying him to the edge of the atmosphere and letting go.
--->'''Supergirl:''' I'm sorry, but you seem confused. Just 'cuz I let you land a few easy blows— that '''doesn't''' mean we're having a '''fair''' fight!
** A few issues later, Silver Banshee challenges Kara. Kara drops a truck on Banshee.
** In ''ComicBook/ManyHappyReturns'', second-rate villain Rebel looks forward
to fight 'fair' Supergirl... until Kara warns him that she's mad enough right now that she'll destroy him before he can blink if he bothers her.
--->'''Supergirl:''' Look — Here's the problem. You've done some bad things, but I'm really, really upset right now. So much so that, honestly, I don't trust myself. And if you attack me or I attack you... I will hurt you. I'll hurt you worse than you've ever been hurt in your whole life. I can carve you up as soon as look at you. I can break you, boil you, freeze you. I can do things you can't imagine. Things I can't imagine, until I have to. And then I'll improvise. Part of me is hoping you will attack. And part of me is praying — for your sake, and my own peace of mind — that you don't. It's up to you.
** ''ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'': Unsurprisingly, becoming a Red Lantern doesn't make Supergirl less reluctant to fight dirty. When she figures out the Diasporans can breathe in space, she smashes through their space ships. When she's fighting a ruthless and powerful alien parasite Kara resorts to every kind of underhanded tactics such like letting him bonding with her and then poisoning herself or tricking him into throwing her into the Sun.
** In ''ComicBook/TheSupergirlFromKrypton'', Superman comes up with a complex plan to guarantee that Darkseid leaves his cousin alone which includes Supergirl faking her death
in order to provide make Superman go berserk.
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a good example, but in ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' issue, villain Satanna replaces Kara's friend Terra's brain with Ultra-Humanite's. When a tough situation will start to use his powers in many, many creative ''severely'' unhappy Power Girl barges into her lair, Satanna starts gloating and nasty ways.stops when Power Girl -who isn't in the mood- ''blasts her arm off'' and demands Terra's brain back.
25th Jul '17 8:56:02 PM Daedalis
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* Used by Creator/GailSimone to justify ComicBook/RedSonja's chainmail bikini: her near-nudity is distracting to male opponents and she has unmatched freedom of movement in most skirmishes. She dons full armor when it's appropriate, such as when leading an army or duelling Dark Annisia.
18th Jul '17 8:02:30 AM trixus
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** Backfired once when Deadpool fought Kraven, by using guns on him Kraven decides that if Deadpool wants to cheat so will he and uses a laser on him.
19th Jun '17 10:20:34 AM TheWanderer
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* Jesse Custer from ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'' may want to be the good guy, but he really loves his {{Groin Attack}}s.

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* Jesse Custer from ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'' may want to be the good guy, but he hell will never [[FightingDirty fight any way but dirty]]. The man really loves his {{Groin Attack}}s.Attack}}s, right up there with getting in the first shot or using the environment to his advantage.
17th May '17 12:17:10 AM CountDorku
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* General Ching, the token Chinese Communist member of the Exiles, minor allies of the ComicBook/RedSkull nobody really liked, attempted to be this. His evil plan to kill ComicBook/CaptainAmerica? Shoot him in the back. Unfortunately for him, but very fortunately for Cap, the Skull was going through a period of BondVillainStupidity and stopped him.
28th Apr '17 10:54:30 PM AdamC
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* 2011 DC Universe reboot: [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] starts boasting to Franchise/{{Batman}} that with his ring, he can easily take down {{Superman}}. By the time Batman blinks, Superman has {{Flash Step}}ped up to Hal and punched him out.

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* 2011 DC Universe reboot: [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] starts boasting to Franchise/{{Batman}} that with his ring, he can easily take down {{Superman}}. By the time Batman blinks, Superman has {{Flash Step}}ped up to Hal and punched him out. Later in that same story, Hal finally figures out that Batman has no super-powers and begins immediately pointing out how absurd it is for a normal human to be in the situations the Justice League finds themselves in. Mid-way through his rant Batman pickpockets his ring.
18th Apr '17 10:06:18 AM Silverblade2
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** Being this kind of character is half the reason SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker can threaten Batman toe-to-toe; the other half is [[AxeCrazy his enthusiasm in combat]].

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** Being this kind of character is half the reason SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker can threaten Batman toe-to-toe; the other half is [[AxeCrazy his enthusiasm in combat]].
6th Mar '17 3:09:14 PM ultimomant
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** Alfred Pennyworth [[CharacterizationMarchesOn became this as the series progressed]]. I mean, come on, the guy was a freakin' former S.A.S. soldier! And he has helped Bruce solve cases, invent new tech, heal his (both personal and Bruce's) own wounds, and managed to fight off thugs that would typically be more physically fit than him, as well as carrying extremely powerful firearms, with his ''[[BareFistedMonk bare hands]]''!! Though, he wishes to remain a harmless butler. It also says a lot about Alfred and how much Bruce likes him (even if he doesn't says it) that Alfred is the only member of the Bat-Family that consistently decides to carry a gun and Batman doesn't gives him crap.

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** Alfred Pennyworth [[CharacterizationMarchesOn became this as the series progressed]]. I mean, come on, progressed]], as the guy was a freakin' former S.A.S. soldier! soldier. And he has helped Bruce solve cases, invent new tech, heal his (both personal and Bruce's) own wounds, and managed to fight off thugs that would typically be more physically fit than him, as well as carrying extremely powerful firearms, with his ''[[BareFistedMonk bare hands]]''!! Though, he wishes to remain a harmless butler. It also says a lot about Alfred and how much Bruce likes him (even if he doesn't says say it) that Alfred is the only member of the Bat-Family that consistently decides to carry a gun and Batman doesn't gives him crap.
25th Feb '17 1:21:00 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Alfred Pennyworth [[CharacterizationMarchesOn became this as the series progressed]]. I mean, come on, the guy was a freakin' former S.A.S. soldier! And he has helped Bruce solve cases, invent new tech, heal his (both personal and Bruce's) own wounds, and managed to fight off thugs that would typically be more physically fit than him, as well as carrying extremely powerful firearms, with his ''[[BareFistedMonk bare hands]]''!! Though, he wishes to remain a harmless butler.

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** Alfred Pennyworth [[CharacterizationMarchesOn became this as the series progressed]]. I mean, come on, the guy was a freakin' former S.A.S. soldier! And he has helped Bruce solve cases, invent new tech, heal his (both personal and Bruce's) own wounds, and managed to fight off thugs that would typically be more physically fit than him, as well as carrying extremely powerful firearms, with his ''[[BareFistedMonk bare hands]]''!! Though, he wishes to remain a harmless butler. It also says a lot about Alfred and how much Bruce likes him (even if he doesn't says it) that Alfred is the only member of the Bat-Family that consistently decides to carry a gun and Batman doesn't gives him crap.


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** Another example: Frank is chased by an enemy that is TheGunslinger and capable of dodging bullets. Frank's solution when he has to face off against him? ''Break out a machine gun'', betting that his enemy doesn't has the speed to dodge a barrage fired at 850 Rounds Per Minute. [[MultipleGunshotDeath He doesn't.]]
18th Feb '17 10:42:51 PM Philweasel
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* ComicBook/{{Superman}} can be like this when the situation allows. For instance, a ComicBook/PostCrisis story had him facing a dire threat and Metallo was standing in his way for a fight. Superman contemptuously responds he has no time to deal with the cyborg twerp and simply blasts limbs off with his heat vision until he is a pile of limbs and moves on.

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* ComicBook/{{Superman}} can be like this when the situation allows. For instance, a ComicBook/PostCrisis story had him facing a dire threat and Metallo was standing in his way for a fight. Superman contemptuously responds he has no time to deal with the cyborg twerp and simply blasts limbs off with his heat vision until he is a pile of limbs and moves on. He often notes that he holds back a lot and tries to fight 'fair' in order to provide a good example, but in a tough situation will start to use his powers in many, many creative and nasty ways.
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