History Characters / VorkosiganSaga

2nd Feb '18 4:57:17 PM Xtifr
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* TheKingdom: Calls itself TheEmpire, but Barrayar is really a medium-sized power compared to others in the galaxy, and is more like TheKingdom.
1st Feb '18 12:08:27 AM NanoMoose
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Ancestor of Count Dono's. Famed for eccentric building styles and for building Imp Sec headquarters. A [[SoBadItsGood running joke]] of Barrayarans and the despair of Security officers who have to work their.

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Ancestor of Count Dono's. Famed for eccentric building styles and for building Imp Sec headquarters. A [[SoBadItsGood running joke]] of Barrayarans and the despair of Security officers who have to must work their.
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31st Dec '17 1:18:18 PM lakingsif
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* BadassGrandpa: He's older by Barrayaran standards when he marries for the second time, and thirty years later is still serving Barrayar. [[spoiler: After Miles' marriage, becomes this literally.]]



%%* OldSoldier

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%%* OldSoldier* OldSoldier: He's older by Barrayaran standards when he marries for the second time, and thirty years later is still serving Barrayar.



* BadassGrandpa: Say what you will about his personality, Piotr's fighting credentials are well-established. Even more impressive when one considers that within Piotr's command career, the nature of war changed from regressive semi-medieval cavalry maneuvers all the way to the space age. And he came out on top in ''both''. Against ''[[TheEmpire Cetaganda]]'', no less -- already a ruthless multiple-star-system empire -- for the latter. And that was just the warmup for leading the civil war that deposed Mad Emperor Yuri and set Ezar on the throne.



* BadassGrandma: Lily, the matriarch, who is over 100 years old, but being a part of House Ryoval has hardened her forever. Miles even notes "100 year old eyes look at you differently."


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* TheMatriarch: Lily, the matriarch, who is over 100 years old, but being a part of House Ryoval has hardened her forever. Miles even notes "100 year old eyes look at you differently."
14th Dec '17 1:45:24 PM BillWoods
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* LikesOlderWomen: Ivan has a preference for older women, such as 40-something Lady Donna. He says with body mods, Tej could be anywhere between 10 and 60 - and Ivan states he wouldn't mind being with a 60 year old woman ''at all''.

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* LikesOlderWomen: Ivan has a preference for older women, such as 40-something Lady Donna. He says with body mods, Tej could be anywhere between 10 and 60 - -- and Ivan states he wouldn't mind being with a 60 year old woman ''at all''.



* MyBelovedSmother: Ivan thinks so, but [[IWantGrandkids she just wants grandkids,]] and backs off once [[spoiler: Simon Illyan is in the picture and she no longer feels compelled to live through Ivan.]] The [[TearJerker tearjerking]] reason she's protective is that he's an only child - and her husband died a nasty death during his birth.

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* MyBelovedSmother: Ivan thinks so, but [[IWantGrandkids she just wants grandkids,]] and backs off once [[spoiler: Simon Illyan is in the picture and she no longer feels compelled to live through Ivan.]] The [[TearJerker tearjerking]] reason she's protective is that he's an only child - -- and her husband died a nasty death during his birth.



* BroughtDownToNormal: Even Jacksonians heard of "the Barrayaran with the cyborg brain". Haroche's sabotage of the eidetic chip removed Illyan's instant recall - but not his cunning.
* BullyingTheDragon: It's Illyan's job to take on powerful Vor and military bigwigs. When an [=ImpSec=] agent tangles with Admiral Desplains - Chief of Ops for the entirety of Barrayar's military - Simon approves, stating it was nice to see a Galactic Affairs agent take on someone so high ranking without fearing reprisal.

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* BroughtDownToNormal: Even Jacksonians heard of "the Barrayaran with the cyborg brain". Haroche's sabotage of the eidetic chip removed Illyan's instant recall - -- but not his cunning.
* BullyingTheDragon: It's Illyan's job to take on powerful Vor and military bigwigs. When an [=ImpSec=] agent tangles with Admiral Desplains - -- Chief of Ops for the entirety of Barrayar's military - -- Simon approves, stating it was nice to see a Galactic Affairs agent take on someone so high ranking without fearing reprisal.



* AmbiguouslyBi: Kareen notes that she could have met a nice ''girl'' in Beta Colony. She'd already had experience with Betan herms, so it's possible she experimented further, though she could just be jerking her parent's chains by reminding them that there are worse romantic options (by Barayaran standards, anyway) than Lord Mark.

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* AmbiguouslyBi: Kareen notes that she could have met a nice ''girl'' in Beta Colony. She'd already had experience with Betan herms, so it's possible she experimented further, though she could just be jerking her parent's chains by reminding them that there are worse romantic options (by Barayaran Barrayaran standards, anyway) than Lord Mark.



Town Clown, impoverished, imprudent, and impervious to put-downs, but very witty...if you care for a certain nasty type of humor. [[spoiler: Also an [=ImpSec=] informer, thought by some to be reporting to Lady Alys Vorpatril.]]

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Town Clown, impoverished, imprudent, and impervious to put-downs, but very witty...if you care for a certain nasty type of humor. [[spoiler: Also an [=ImpSec=] informer, informant, thought by some to be reporting to Lady Alys Vorpatril.]]



* TheCharmer: several other characters--and not all of them women--note how dashing he is.

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* TheCharmer: several other characters--and characters -- and not all of them women--note women -- note how dashing he is.



* LaserGuidedKarma: "Dowries! ''Dowries!''" -- due to one of Barrayar's many legal quirks, the Emperor is able to set a minimum bride gift - dowry - for a Count's acknowledged female bastards. Gregor takes merciless advantage of this to punish Vormuir and discourage imitators until the relevant laws can be updated.

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* LaserGuidedKarma: "Dowries! ''Dowries!''" -- due to one of Barrayar's many legal quirks, the Emperor is able to set a minimum bride gift - dowry - (bride gift) for a Count's acknowledged female bastards. Gregor takes merciless advantage of this to punish Vormuir and discourage imitators until the relevant laws can be updated.



* TheButcher: His name in English means "Bloody Pete".

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* TheButcher: His name in English means "Bloody Pete".Peter".



* LongDeadBadass: Not quite so long, the History of Barayar from collapse to rediscovery was actually fairly short.

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* LongDeadBadass: Not quite so long, the History of Barayar Barrayar from collapse to rediscovery was actually fairly short.



Ancestor of Count Donno's. Famed for eccentric building styles and for building Imp Sec headquarters. A [[SoBadItsGood running joke]] of Barrayarans and the despair of Security officers who have to work their.

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Ancestor of Count Donno's.Dono's. Famed for eccentric building styles and for building Imp Sec headquarters. A [[SoBadItsGood running joke]] of Barrayarans and the despair of Security officers who have to work their.



* BuxomIsBetter: There's also a MyEyesAreUpHere when Ivan takes a little ''too'' long reading her nametag - before sighing ''everyone'' has that issue.

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* BuxomIsBetter: There's also a MyEyesAreUpHere when Ivan takes a little ''too'' long reading her nametag - -- before sighing ''everyone'' has that issue.
8th Dec '17 3:00:01 PM ReaderAt2046
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* MasterRace: Their society is build around attempting to evolve themselves into an example of this trope. Miles notes at one point that they do not currently consider this process complete. What they will have become by the time they do consider themselves finished, not even they can guess.
24th Oct '17 10:51:41 AM Rday
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: "Did you think you were dealing with an ''amateur''?"

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* BewareTheNiceOnes: "Did "Both of my parents died in political intrigue before I was six years old, a fact you might have researched. Did you think you were dealing with an ''amateur''?"
29th Sep '17 12:59:42 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* WeCouldHaveAvoidedAllThis: Had Cavilo just returned Gregor to Barrayar, she would have been rewarded better than her convoluted plans would have. It's hinted that Gregor was attracted to her as well, sighing that he wished she were "real".
30th Aug '17 10:15:44 AM Montanto
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'''Zap The Cat'''

A cat that was adopted by the [=ImpSec=] security detail around Vorkosigan House. She has been a fixture at Vorkosigan House ever since.

* CatsAreMean: And bipolar and possibly insane.
*[[BabiesEverAfter Kittens Ever After:]] She has several litters as the books go on. Miles offering people kittens becomes one of his standard icebreakers later on.
18th Aug '17 12:31:46 PM jjnonken
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* ClonesArePeopleToo: They refer to each other as siblings rather than clones, despite being raised on the distinctly non-clone-friendly world of Jackson's Whole. One of the reasons they wind up helping our heroes is to get the hell ''off'' Jackson's Whole so they can have their own individual lives apart from each other.

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* ClonesArePeopleToo: They refer to each other as siblings rather than clones, despite being raised on the distinctly non-clone-friendly clone-non-friendly world of Jackson's Whole. One of the reasons they wind up helping our heroes is to get the hell ''off'' Jackson's Whole so they can have their own individual lives apart from each other.



* AbsentMindedProfessor: So very. Selling more than 100% of his projects to venture capitalists is probably the best example

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* AbsentMindedProfessor: So very. Selling more than 100% of his projects to venture capitalists is probably the best exampleexample.



House Cordonah is run by a Jacksoninan pirate and a ghem/haut Cetagandan woman. They have 11 children, six of which were extensively genetically modified by the Baronne. Using her own gene pool, the Baronne created "Jewel" kids followed by "normal" kids in alternating sequence. The Jewels are just as much siblings as the other kids, but aren't known as such publicly.

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House Cordonah is run by a Jacksoninan pirate and a ghem/haut Cetagandan woman. They have 11 children, six of which whom were extensively genetically modified by the Baronne. Using her own gene pool, the Baronne created "Jewel" kids followed by "normal" kids in alternating sequence. The Jewels are just as much siblings as the other kids, but aren't known as such publicly.
18th Aug '17 11:55:48 AM jjnonken
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* AintNoRule: Half of the basis of his plan
* BabyFactory: His end goal, though not in any sense normally considered socially acceptable

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* AintNoRule: Half of the basis of his plan
plan.
* BabyFactory: His end goal, though not in any sense normally considered socially acceptableacceptable.



* GenderRarityValue another aspect of his plan. Given Barrayar's skewed demographics, any girl is practically guaranteed a husband if she wants one, making each a two for one deal.

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* GenderRarityValue another GenderRarityValue: Another aspect of his plan. Given Barrayar's skewed demographics, any girl is practically guaranteed a husband if she wants one, making each a two for one deal.



* HumiliationConga: Not that he didn't deserve it
* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: He's a pigheaded putz who is either blind or indifferent to the thorny emotional problems raised by the virtual-rape-by-proxy aspects of his scheme. But he does sincerely care for his many little girls, if only because unhappy badly-adjusted liege people would derail his plan...and because he knows the Emperor could terminate his parental rights if he abused or neglected them.
* LaserGuidedKarma: "Dowries! ''Dowries!''" - due to one of Barrayar's many legal quirks, the Emperor is able to set a minimum bride gift - dowry - for a Count's acknowledged female bastards. Gregor takes merciless advantage of this to punish Vormuir and discourage imitators until the relevant laws can be updated.
** The real icing on the cake is the fact that the dowries will make all ''118'' of them atractive marriage prospects even if Barrayar's demographic trends revert to something more balanced. This means Count Vormuir will almost certainly have to pay for each and every one of his transgressions.

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* HumiliationConga: Not that he didn't deserve it
it.
* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: He's a pigheaded putz who is either blind or indifferent to the thorny emotional problems raised by the virtual-rape-by-proxy aspects of his scheme. But he does sincerely care for his many little girls, if only because unhappy badly-adjusted liege people would derail his plan... and because he knows the Emperor could terminate his parental rights if he abused or neglected them.
* LaserGuidedKarma: "Dowries! ''Dowries!''" - -- due to one of Barrayar's many legal quirks, the Emperor is able to set a minimum bride gift - dowry - for a Count's acknowledged female bastards. Gregor takes merciless advantage of this to punish Vormuir and discourage imitators until the relevant laws can be updated.
** The real icing on the cake is the fact that the dowries will make all ''118'' of them atractive attractive marriage prospects even if Barrayar's demographic trends revert to something more balanced. This means Count Vormuir will almost certainly have to pay for each and every one of his transgressions.



* HappilyMarried: We meet his wife briefly when he returns to Barrayar with Ivan and Tej

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* HappilyMarried: We meet his wife briefly when he returns to Barrayar with Ivan and TejTej.



* TheDragon: Dorca's favorite hatchet man and most feared liegeman

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* TheDragon: Dorca's favorite hatchet man and most feared liegemanliegeman.



* GunboatDiplomacy: How Dorca unified the empire though AsskickingEqualsAuthority

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* GunboatDiplomacy: How Dorca unified the empire though AsskickingEqualsAuthorityAsskickingEqualsAuthority.
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