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16th Jun '18 1:43:59 PM MasterN
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A cute young detective who fell from the pleasure boat ''Eternal Maid II'' and [[ContrivedCoincidence happens to wash up on the shore of an island with an impending murder mystery.]] She calls herself an [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "Intellectual Rapist"]]. She is the piece set by Bernkastel on the board of Rokkenjima.

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A cute young detective who fell from the pleasure boat ''Eternal Maid II'' and [[ContrivedCoincidence happens to wash up on the shore of an island with an impending murder mystery.]] She calls herself an [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "Intellectual Rapist"]]. She is the piece set by Bernkastel [[spoiler:Bernkastel]] on the board of Rokkenjima.



* AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs: Zigzagged with Erika. In Dawn, she acts in a dom-ish fashion with Battler (though with him unable to consent, due to [[spoiler:being trapped in a Logic Error]]). However, in the omake in the manga of Dawn, she's actually a sub to Bern's dom.
* AmateurSleuth: Actually a {{Deconstruction}}[=/=]{{Parody}} of one, created by Bern as her AuthorAvatar to screw with Beato's murder mystery. Imagine what type of personality [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates someone normally harmless]] would develop if everywhere they went, [[MysteryMagnet someone always]] [[AlwaysMurder kills another human being]]. It takes the [[ConvictionByContradiction flimsiest]] and occasionally [[ConvictionByCounterfactualClue technically wrong]] reasoning to cause the killer to break down into a MotiveRant and everyone praises her for it, so this person came to enjoy her life. She has never been wrong, ever, even when actual facts didn't match up. The above description [[Series/MurderSheWrote should]] [[Creator/AgathaChristie sound]] [[Manga/DetectiveConan very]], [[Series/{{Columbo}} very]], [[Literature/EncyclopediaBrown familiar]]. This is possibly a {{Flanderization}} or {{Satire}}, but given PoesLaw it is hard to tell.
* AmbiguouslyBi: She seems to have a [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship close friendship]] with Dlanor and there's some strong sadomasochistic subtext between her and Bernkastel, but she also had a boyfriend once [[spoiler:and she clearly delights in the idea of ''raping'' Battler's helpless body after forcing him to marry her]].

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* AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs: Zigzagged with Erika. In Dawn, she acts in a dom-ish fashion with Battler (though with him unable to consent, due to [[spoiler:being trapped in a Logic Error]]). However, in the omake in the manga of Dawn, she's actually a sub to Bern's [[spoiler:Bern]]’s dom.
* AmateurSleuth: Actually a {{Deconstruction}}[=/=]{{Parody}} of one, created by Bern [[spoiler:Bern]] as her AuthorAvatar to screw with Beato's murder mystery. Imagine what type of personality [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates someone normally harmless]] would develop if everywhere they went, [[MysteryMagnet someone always]] [[AlwaysMurder kills another human being]]. It takes the [[ConvictionByContradiction flimsiest]] and occasionally [[ConvictionByCounterfactualClue technically wrong]] reasoning to cause the killer to break down into a MotiveRant and everyone praises her for it, so this person came to enjoy her life. She has never been wrong, ever, even when actual facts didn't match up. The above description [[Series/MurderSheWrote should]] [[Creator/AgathaChristie sound]] [[Manga/DetectiveConan very]], [[Series/{{Columbo}} very]], [[Literature/EncyclopediaBrown familiar]]. This is possibly a {{Flanderization}} or {{Satire}}, but given PoesLaw it is hard to tell.
* AmbiguouslyBi: She seems to have a [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship close friendship]] with Dlanor and there's some strong sadomasochistic subtext between her and Bernkastel, her master, but she also had a boyfriend once [[spoiler:and she clearly delights in the idea of ''raping'' Battler's helpless body after forcing him to marry her]].



* BadBoss: After her defeat in [=EP5=], she takes out her frustrations on Cornelia by making her stand on one leg so she can push her and make her fall, then telling her to get up and stand on one leg again to repeat the process over and over.

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* BadBoss: After her defeat in [=EP5=], she takes out her frustrations on Cornelia by making her stand on one leg so she can push her and make her fall, then telling her to get up and stand on one leg again to repeat the process over and over. She is also herself the victim of this from ''her'' superiors.



** And, surprisingly (or not), she seems to be this ''for her master'' in the eighth Tea Party. When Bern says that Lambda is the only one she loves, Erika does ''not'' take it well.

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** And, surprisingly (or not), she seems to be this ''for her master'' in the eighth Tea Party. When Bern [[spoiler:Bern says that Lambda is the only one she loves, loves]], Erika does ''not'' take it well.



* DefectiveDetective: Taken UpToEleven. You don't see that many mysteries where the Detective is the ''villain''.

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* DefectiveDetective: Taken UpToEleven. You don't see that many mysteries where the Detective is the ''villain''.''[[ArcVillain villain]]''.



* TheDragon: To Bernkastel.

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* TheDragon: To Bernkastel.[[spoiler:Bernkastel and Lambdadelta]].



* EasilyForgiven: [[spoiler: Battler eulogizes her and ultimately convinces Bernkastel to bring her back in Episode 8, in spite of all of the absolutely horrible, unatoned-for deeds she committed upon Battler, Beatrice and the Ushiromiya family in episodes 5 and 6. Doesn't help that Erika then proceeds to screw with the game ''again'' once brought back.]]

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* EasilyForgiven: [[spoiler: Battler [[spoiler:Battler eulogizes her and ultimately convinces Bernkastel to bring her back in Episode 8, in spite of all of the absolutely horrible, unatoned-for deeds she committed upon Battler, Beatrice and the Ushiromiya family in episodes 5 and 6. [[TheFarmerAndTheViper Doesn't help that Erika then proceeds to screw with the game game]] ''again'' once brought back.]]



* EvilCounterpart: Could be considered this to Ange. Both are obsessed with the truth, both passed a contract with Bernkastel just before falling to their death, and both will effectively die once Bern has no longer any use for them. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And both have girlish pigtails.]] But contrary to Ange, Erika is enjoying her role as a piece of a sadistic witch very much.

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* EvilCounterpart: Could be considered this to Ange. Both are obsessed with the truth, both passed a contract with Bernkastel [[spoiler:with Bernkastel]] just before falling to their death, and both [[spoiler:both will effectively die once Bern has no longer any use for them. them]].[[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And both have girlish pigtails.]] But contrary to Ange, Erika is enjoying her role as a piece of a sadistic witch very much.



* FromACertainPointOfView: The reason why [[spoiler:she failed to resolve the contradiction at the end of Episode 6.]] She is indeed the [[spoiler:18th]] person in we go by the number of "names", but the [[spoiler: 17th]] person if we go by the number of "bodies", as explained in the manga.
* GameBreaker: The Detective authority is an in-universe example, given to her by Bernkastel. She has the power to perfectly investigate a crime scene, use any means necessary to do so without being hindered, force everyone to listen to her when she calls for attention, and cannot be suspected by anyone. She can also confirm with 100% accuracy whether a corpse is dead… [[spoiler:provided that she actually bothers to look at the corpse, that is.]]
** It does have one limit. [[spoiler: [[MurderIsTheBestSolution Knox's 7th: It is forbidden for the detective to be the culprit]]]].

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* FromACertainPointOfView: The reason why [[spoiler:she failed to resolve the contradiction at the end of Episode 6.]] She is indeed the [[spoiler:18th]] person in we go by the number of "names", but the [[spoiler: 17th]] [[spoiler:17th]] person if we go by the number of "bodies", as explained in the manga.
* GameBreaker: The Detective authority is an in-universe example, given to her by Bernkastel.her master. She has the power to perfectly investigate a crime scene, use any means necessary to do so without being hindered, force everyone to listen to her when she calls for attention, and cannot be suspected by anyone. She can also confirm with 100% accuracy whether a corpse is dead… [[spoiler:provided that she actually bothers to look at the corpse, that is.]]
** It does have one limit. [[spoiler: [[MurderIsTheBestSolution [[spoiler:[[MurderIsTheBestSolution Knox's 7th: It is forbidden for the detective to be the culprit]]]].



* GoGoEnslavement: Inverted: [[spoiler:Erika may be the one wearing the wedding dress, but ''she's'' the one enslaving Battler by forcing him into marriage and outright threatening to ''rape'' him.]]

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* GoGoEnslavement: Inverted: [[spoiler:Erika may be the one wearing the wedding dress, but ''she's'' the one enslaving Battler by forcing him into marriage and outright threatening to ''rape'' him.]]him]].



* HappinessInSlavery: It's never really explained how she became Bernkastel's piece, but she really loves her master a lot.
* HateSink: Take a character who arrives out of nowhere to disturb the game, make her irritatingly perfect via CharacterShilling and then make it clear that she's a complete sociopath whose pastimes are licking Bernkastel's feet and desecrating beloved characters, and you have a perfect scumbag ready to hate. Many fans still LoveToHate her though.

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* HappinessInSlavery: It's never really explained how she became Bernkastel's [[spoiler:Bernkastel]]’s piece, but she really loves her master a lot.
* HateSink: Take a character who arrives out of nowhere to disturb the game, story, make her irritatingly perfect via CharacterShilling and then make it clear that she's a complete sociopath narcissist whose pastimes are licking Bernkastel's her boss’s feet and desecrating beloved characters, and you have a perfect scumbag ready to hate. Many fans still LoveToHate her though.



* InterplayOfSexAndViolence: There's some pretty heavy sadomasochistic subtext between her and Bernkastel (it's more apparent in the manga). And let's not get into her "wedding" with [[spoiler:Battler]]...

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* InterplayOfSexAndViolence: There's some pretty heavy sadomasochistic subtext between her and Bernkastel her boss (it's more apparent in the manga). And let's not get into her "wedding" with [[spoiler:Battler]]...



* [[spoiler:KarmaHoudini: While she ''is'' defeated by Beatrice, she [[VillainExitStageLeft escapes with Bern and Lambda]] [[SequelHook to cause more havoc in the future.]]]]



* LackOfEmpathy: And how… though given that she serves and was possibly taught by [[TheSociopath Bernkastel]], it's probably not surprising.

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* LackOfEmpathy: And how… though given that she serves and was possibly taught by [[TheSociopath Bernkastel]], [[spoiler:[[TheSociopath Bernkastel]]]], it's probably not surprising.



* ParodySue: She's a messy {{Deconstruction}} of {{Mary Sue}}s. At first she seems to come across as a PuritySue, though she's really a [[BlackHoleSue Black Hole]] FixerSue of an AmateurSleuth who ''[[ContrivedCoincidence just so happens]]'' to wash up on Rokkenjima so Bernkastel has her own piece when she takes over the anti-fantasy side of the game. She proceeds to wander around being an insufferable BitchInSheepsClothing, attempts to supplant the protagonist, [[spoiler:helps Battler find the gold just to make the chaos worse, and frames Natsuhi for the murders]]. She's basically Bern's self-insert Sue, and she's virulently loathed by both the other characters and a good chunk of the fanbase.

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* ParodySue: She's a messy {{Deconstruction}} of {{Mary Sue}}s. At first she seems to come across as a PuritySue, though she's really a [[BlackHoleSue Black Hole]] FixerSue of an AmateurSleuth who ''[[ContrivedCoincidence just so happens]]'' to wash up on Rokkenjima so Bernkastel [[spoiler:Bernkastel]] has her own piece when she takes over the anti-fantasy side of the game. She proceeds to wander around being an insufferable BitchInSheepsClothing, attempts to supplant the protagonist, [[spoiler:helps Battler find the gold just to make the chaos worse, and frames Natsuhi for the murders]]. She's basically Bern's [[spoiler:Bern]]’s self-insert Sue, and she's virulently loathed by both the other characters and a good chunk of the fanbase.



* SelfInsertFic: The entire concept of her is basically a parody of these. Bernkastel actually states that she used Erika to "insert herself into the game".

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* SelfInsertFic: The entire concept of her is basically a parody of these. Bernkastel [[spoiler:Bernkastel]] actually states that she used Erika to "insert herself into the game".



* SmugSnake: She ''revels'' in dismantling the theories of others and substituting what she believes is the one true truth. She also goes into meltdown whenever her "truth" gets a hole punched through it. Erika even considers herself more powerful than Bernkastel and Lambdadelta in a way, because they'd rather distract themselves from their past miseries with other people's suffering than face those memories (and thus the truth) head-on.

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* SmugSnake: She ''revels'' in dismantling the theories of others and substituting what she believes is the one true truth. She also goes into meltdown whenever her "truth" gets a hole punched through it. Erika even considers herself more powerful than Bernkastel [[spoiler:Bernkastel and Lambdadelta Lambdadelta]] in a way, because they'd rather distract themselves from their past miseries with other people's suffering than face those memories (and thus the truth) head-on.



* SoreLoser: She's not Bern's piece for nothing…

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* SoreLoser: She's not Bern's [[spoiler:Bern]]’s piece for nothing…



* SycophanticServant: She's loyal to Bernkastel to a fault, [[spoiler:even after Bern [[FateWorseThanDeath throws her into Oblivion]] for her loss to Beatrice]].

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* SycophanticServant: She's loyal to Bernkastel her master to a fault, [[spoiler:even after Bern [[FateWorseThanDeath throws her into Oblivion]] for her loss to Beatrice]].



* WellDoneDaughterGirl: She's desperate for her master's approval and tries her best to live up to her expectations. While it's somewhat justified because Erika knows very well that Bernkastel won't hesitate to throw her into oblivion if she fails her, she gets a little too happy in the rare occasions where she does get her master's praise.

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* WellDoneDaughterGirl: She's desperate for her master's mother/master's approval and tries her best to live up to her expectations. While it's somewhat justified because Erika knows very well that Bernkastel her mother won't hesitate to throw her into oblivion if she fails her, she gets a little too happy in the rare occasions where she does get her master's praise.
16th Jun '18 12:07:59 PM MasterN
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* {{Narcissist}}: As befitting a ParodySue, everything she does is for the sake of stroking her own ego.
16th Jun '18 6:08:00 AM ShineSutella
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* {{Fetish}}: She likes [[http://mangafox.me/manga/umineko_no_naku_koro_ni_chiru_episode_6_dawn_of_the_golden_witch/v01/c004/21.html chopsticks]] a ''tad bit'' too much.
* TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest: At some point in the past, Erika had a boyfriend who dumped her in a cruel way when she confronted him about evidence that he had been cheating on her. This apparently left her with some serious emotional baggage and led her to believe that love only distracts her from finding the truth, so she has no need for it.

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* {{Fetish}}: She likes [[http://mangafox.me/manga/umineko_no_naku_koro_ni_chiru_episode_6_dawn_of_the_golden_witch/v01/c004/21.html chopsticks]] chopsticks a ''tad bit'' too much.
* TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest: At some point in the past, In her backstory, Erika had a grew suspicious that her boyfriend who dumped her in a cruel way when she confronted him about evidence that he had been was cheating on her and kept investigating him for evidence, which lead her boyfriend to dump her. This apparently left her with some serious emotional baggage and led her to believe Because of this, Erika says love is nothing but an illusion that love only distracts her from finding the truth, so she has no need for it.truth.



A piece of [[AmbiguousGender unclear gender]] first seen in [=EP7=]. Lion comes from a world where they are first in line for the headship of the Ushiromiya family, Krauss and Natsuhi's first child and Jessica's older sibling. Lion teams up with Willard H. Wright in his investigation of "Beatrice's murder". Lion also has a rather odd habit of giving people's butts a nasty pinch whenever they're being rude or perverted.

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A piece of [[AmbiguousGender unclear gender]] first seen in [=EP7=]. Lion comes from a world where in which they are first in line for the headship of the Ushiromiya family, Krauss and Natsuhi's first child and Jessica's older sibling. Lion teams up with Willard H. Wright in his investigation of "Beatrice's murder". Lion also has a rather odd habit of giving people's butts a nasty pinch whenever they're being rude or perverted.



* AmbiguousGender: Very intentionally; the narration refers to them [[GenderNeutralWriting very gender-neutrally]], they have an androgynous appearance, and none of the other characters give any indication what their gender actually is. Even Will doesn't know what it is, and it's one of the mysteries that he's supposed to solve. When he actually asks Lion, Lion gets annoyed and refuses to tell him. Bernkastel even influenced the characters of [=EP7=]'s game so that they wouldn't reveal it, by making Jessica refer to Lion as "successor-sama" instead of "brother" or "sister". Although if the strong implications the manga gives with [[spoiler:Sayo Yasuda]] are anything to go by, [[spoiler:we can be pretty sure Lion is male]].

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* AmbiguousGender: Very intentionally; the narration refers to them [[GenderNeutralWriting very gender-neutrally]], they have an androgynous appearance, and none of the other characters give any indication what their gender actually is. Even When Will doesn't know what it is, and it's one of the mysteries that he's supposed to solve. When he actually directly asks Lion, Lion which gender they are, Lion gets annoyed and refuses to tell him. This is justified by Bernkastel even influenced deliberately designing the characters of [=EP7=]'s game so that they wouldn't reveal it, by making Jessica refer to Lion as "successor-sama" instead of "brother" or "sister". Although if the strong implications the manga gives keep Lion's gender obscured, [[{{Troll}} probably just to mess with [[spoiler:Sayo Yasuda]] are anything to go by, [[spoiler:we can be pretty sure Lion is male]].Will]].
31st May '18 8:36:03 AM Oecchi
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11th Mar '18 5:28:13 PM Clevomon
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* AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs: Zigzagged with Erika. In Dawn, she acts in a dom-ish fashion with Battler (though with him unable to consent, due to [[spoiler:being trapped in a Logic Error]]). However, in the omake in the manga of Dawn, she's actually a sub to Bern's dom.
7th Mar '18 9:17:40 AM CombativeBoil
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* SillyRabbitCynicismisForLosers: [[spoiler:Revealed to be the reason why he got disillusioned with the Court of Heaven. While fighting back against Bernkastel in the EP 7 Tea Party, he shows a clear disdain for depressing mysteries that seek only to highlight the worst aspects of their characters, which was basically what Bern had attempted to do with Rudolf and Kyrie. This carries over to his appearance in EP 8, where he's completely loyal to Battler and his objective of redeeming the Ushiromiya family's honor.]]

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* SillyRabbitCynicismisForLosers: [[spoiler:Revealed to be the reason why he got disillusioned with the Court of Heaven. While fighting back against Bernkastel in the EP 7 [=EP7=] Tea Party, he shows a clear disdain for depressing mysteries that seek only to highlight the worst aspects of their characters, which was basically what Bern had attempted to do with Rudolf and Kyrie. This carries over to his appearance in EP 8, [=EP8=], where he's completely loyal to Battler and his objective of redeeming the Ushiromiya family's honor.]]
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* ScrewDestiny: [[spoiler:He has a massive contempt for Bernkastel's deterministic proclamations that no miracles or happy endings exist, and puts his life on the line to ensure that Lion can find a way out of the nasty fate Bernkastel has revealed for him. Somehow, it all works out.]]



* SillyRabbitCynicismisForLosers: [[spoiler:Revealed to be the reason why he got disillusioned with the Court of Heaven. While fighting back against Bernkastel in the EP7 Tea Party, he shows a clear disdain for depressing mysteries that seek only to highlight the worst aspects of their characters, which was basically what Bern had attempted to do with Rudolf and Kyrie. This carries over to his appearance in EP8, where he's a completely faithful ally of Battler and his objective of redeeming the Ushiromiya family's honor.]]

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* SillyRabbitCynicismisForLosers: [[spoiler:Revealed to be the reason why he got disillusioned with the Court of Heaven. While fighting back against Bernkastel in the EP7 EP 7 Tea Party, he shows a clear disdain for depressing mysteries that seek only to highlight the worst aspects of their characters, which was basically what Bern had attempted to do with Rudolf and Kyrie. This carries over to his appearance in EP8, EP 8, where he's a completely faithful ally of loyal to Battler and his objective of redeeming the Ushiromiya family's honor.]]



* InSpiteOfANail: Even in the world where they exist [[spoiler:Sayo Yasuda can't find a happy ending since, even though the reasons are different, the murders ''still'' occur with Lion theirself as one of the victims. Bernkastel takes ''great'' delight in revealing this just before enacting it]].

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* InSpiteOfANail: Even in the world where they exist [[spoiler:Sayo Yasuda can't find a happy ending since, even though the reasons are different, the murders ''still'' occur with Lion theirself as one of the victims. Bernkastel takes ''great'' delight in revealing this just before enacting it]].it, causing Willard to step in and fight back in order to prevent Lion from giving in]].
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* SillyRabbitCynicismisForLosers: [[spoiler:Revealed to be the reason why he got disillusioned with the Court of Heaven. While fighting back against Bernkastel in the EP7 Tea Party, he shows a clear disdain for depressing mysteries that seek only to highlight the worst aspects of their characters, which was basically what Bern had attempted to do with Rudolf and Kyrie. This carries over to his appearance in EP8, where he's a completely faithful ally of Battler and his objective of redeeming the Ushiromiya family's honor.]]
28th Jan '18 10:37:54 AM nombretomado
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* JapanesePronouns: Lion uses the gender-neutral pronoun "watashi", which is what they're expected to use as the successor to the headship.[[note]]During a flashback in [=EP3=], Krauss refers to himself as "watashi" to rub in Eva's face how he'll be the next head and not her, which she immediately lampshades.[[/note]]
5th Jan '18 2:33:55 PM Oecchi
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* AmbiguouslyBi: Given Lion is [[spoiler:Sayo Yasuda]] alter ego.
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