History Characters / TheOrderOfTheStickTheEmpireOfBlood

28th Apr '16 3:20:22 PM StFan
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** WordOfGod is that a big part of this is that he hasn't grasped that the genre has become more inclusive. The idea that the one white male human in a mixed group isn't the leader and main character by default doesn't even occur to him.
28th Apr '16 10:15:35 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** WordOfGod is that a big part of this is that he hasn't grasped that the genre has become more inclusive. The idea that the one white male human in a mixed group isn't the leader and main character by default doesn't even occur to him.
28th Apr '16 2:15:35 AM KlawKalash
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%%* CarpetOfVirility: Possesses one.

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-->'''Tarquin:''' ...So they went back to their quarters to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0740.html give their pet orangutan a bath?]]
* {{Irony}}: What he says at the end of the arc is completely backwards. [[spoiler:[[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html Elan has lost a lot during the arc.]] His brother is killed, his friend was killed and raised as a vampire, his naivety died, and he realizes that his father is completely irredeemable, among other things. Many of the heroes had marked growth as well. From both a subjective and objective point of view, the ending to the arc can be considered very satisfying and the team had enough closure to put off taking out Tarquin for the "sequel". If anything, Tarquin lost MORE than anyone else during the arc. He lost his wife, a lot of resources including an entire army squad, he spent the favor that Miron owed him, he lost the Gate and the chance to study it to Laurin (though that may have saved his life), his he lost both his sons and his best friend, and now has an entire resistance organized against him (running with a very decent plan that they got from ELAN). Despite this it seems that he is the ONLY character that had no real growth besides a VillainousBreakdown. No word yet as to whether that will make him wise up and become more savvy for the future, though.]]

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-->'''Tarquin:''' ... So they went back to their quarters to [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0740.html give their pet orangutan a bath?]]
* {{Irony}}: What he says at the end of the arc is completely backwards. [[spoiler:[[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0936.html Elan has lost a lot during the arc.]] His brother is killed, his friend was killed and raised as a vampire, his naivety died, and he realizes that his father is completely irredeemable, among other things. Many of the heroes had marked growth as well. From both a subjective and objective point of view, the ending to the arc can be considered very satisfying and the team had enough closure to put off taking out Tarquin for the "sequel". If anything, Tarquin lost MORE than anyone else during the arc. He lost his wife, a lot of resources including an entire army squad, he spent the favor that Miron owed him, he lost the Gate and the chance to study it to Laurin (though that may have saved his life), his he has lost both his sons and his best friend, and now has an entire resistance organized against him (running with a very decent plan that they got from ELAN). Despite this it seems that he is the ONLY character that had no real growth besides a VillainousBreakdown. No word yet as to whether that will make him wise up and become more savvy for the future, though.]]
27th Apr '16 2:56:05 PM nighttrainfm
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* SquishyWizard: Played with: he's squishy compared to a fighter-type like Tarquin, but still very high level. He gets shot by Haley twice, eats a lightning bolt from V, falls off a dinosaur, gets blasted with the highest-damage ray from Prismatic Spray, slashed across the chest by Roy, stabbed twice in the back by Belkar, and shot four more times by Haley. While he does survive all this, it is enough damage to trigger his ''Contingency'', [[spoiler:teleporting him to safety]].

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* SquishyWizard: Played with: he's squishy compared to a fighter-type like Tarquin, but still very high level. He gets shot by Haley twice, eats a lightning bolt from V, falls off a dinosaur, gets blasted with the highest-damage ray from Prismatic Spray, slashed across the chest by Roy, stabbed twice in the back by Belkar, and shot four more times by Haley. While he does survive all this, it is enough damage to trigger his ''Contingency'', [[spoiler:teleporting him to safety]].safety.]]
25th Apr '16 1:14:31 AM StFan
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18th Apr '16 11:21:11 AM StFan
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Tarquin doesn't "get" that his horrible deeds could bother anyone, whether it is good-aligned people he interacts with, or sometimes, even the victims of those same deeds. He's basically a sociopath who can be a nice guy to others when things are going his way, and takes badly to people who act against him. He also tends to assume that ''any'' odd plot development is about him unless proven otherwise. He's obsessed with the idea of a narrative that stars himself as the villain and Elan as the hero. As they both have noted, he treats his sons Nale and Elan like nothing more than pieces of that narrative. He also is willing to try to kill off most of the Order, jeopardizing the world's freedom (best case) or existence (worst case) to improve his story's structure. In fact, he clearly considers himself to be the main villain of the story, dismissing "Zyklon" as a mere "sub-boss"; a little side-quest that Elan can undoubtedly resolve by himself since he's '''his''' son. To top it all off, when the arc finishes Tarquin rants about how there's no sense of closure and how nothing's changed... when in fact this arc has the biggest CharacterDevelopment for most of the Order.
-->'''Julio Scoundrél:''' I think that's half your problem, T-- You always think everything that happens is about '''''you'''''!
** He also thinks he's a natural, charismatic leader, but it's actually the opposite. In order for Malack, Laurin and Miron to do what he asks, he essentially has to either ''bribe'' them or call in favors. Malack is the most loyal simply because Tarquin promised him the biggest prize: leadership of the Empire of Blood after he'd dead - and Malack has no problems waiting.

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* ItsAllAboutMe: ItsAllAboutMe:
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Tarquin doesn't "get" that his horrible deeds could bother anyone, whether it is good-aligned people he interacts with, or sometimes, even the victims of those same deeds. He's basically a sociopath who can be a nice guy to others when things are going his way, and takes badly to people who act against him. him.
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He also tends to assume that ''any'' odd plot development is about him unless proven otherwise. He's obsessed with the idea of a narrative that stars himself as the villain and Elan as the hero. As they both have noted, he treats his sons Nale and Elan like nothing more than pieces of that narrative. He also is willing to try to kill off most of the Order, jeopardizing the world's freedom (best case) or existence (worst case) to improve his story's structure. In fact, he clearly considers himself to be the main villain of the story, dismissing "Zyklon" as a mere "sub-boss"; a little side-quest that Elan can undoubtedly resolve by himself since he's '''his''' son. To top it all off, when the arc finishes Tarquin rants about how there's no sense of closure and how nothing's changed... when in fact this arc has the biggest CharacterDevelopment for most of the Order.
-->'''Julio --->'''Julio Scoundrél:''' I think that's half your problem, T-- You always think everything that happens is about '''''you'''''!
** He also thinks he's a natural, charismatic leader, but it's actually the opposite. In order for Malack, Laurin and Miron to do what he asks, he essentially has to either ''bribe'' them or call in favors. Malack is the most loyal simply because Tarquin promised him the biggest prize: leadership of the Empire of Blood after he'd dead - -- and Malack has no problems waiting.



* FlatCharacter: As he's only appeared in flashbacks and had one single line of dialogue, next to nothing is known about him, not even his name.
* TheManBehindTheMan: Working with Miron as adviser to The Weeping King.

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* FlatCharacter: TheManBehindTheMan: Working with Miron as adviser to The Weeping King.
* NoNameGiven:
As he's only appeared in flashbacks and had one single line of dialogue, next to nothing is known about him, not even his name.
* TheManBehindTheMan: Working with Miron as adviser to The Weeping King.
name.
18th Apr '16 9:56:50 AM nighttrainfm
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* TokenGoodTeammate: The only canonically non-Evil member of the Empire's hierarchy. [[spoiler:This is part of what makes him a Counterpart to TokenEvilTeammate Belkar]].

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* TokenGoodTeammate: The only canonically non-Evil member of the Empire's hierarchy. [[spoiler:This is part of what makes him a Counterpart to TokenEvilTeammate Belkar]].Belkar.]]
25th Mar '16 10:00:41 PM AnotherGuy
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** He also thinks he's a natural, charismatic leader, but it's actually the opposite. In order for Malack, Laurin and Miron to do what he asks, he essentially has to either ''bribe'' him or call in favors. Malack is the most loyal simply because Tarquin promised him the biggest prize: leadership of the Empire of Blood after he'd dead - and Malack has no problems waiting.

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** He also thinks he's a natural, charismatic leader, but it's actually the opposite. In order for Malack, Laurin and Miron to do what he asks, he essentially has to either ''bribe'' him them or call in favors. Malack is the most loyal simply because Tarquin promised him the biggest prize: leadership of the Empire of Blood after he'd dead - and Malack has no problems waiting.
25th Mar '16 10:00:06 PM AnotherGuy
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** He also thinks he's a natural, charismatic leader, but it's actually the opposite. In order for Malack, Laurin and Miron to do what he asks, he essentially has to either ''bribe'' him or call in favors. Malack is the most loyal simply because Tarquin promised him the biggest prize: leadership of the Empire of Blood after he'd dead - and Malack has no problems waiting.
21st Mar '16 12:44:20 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler: Turning Durkon and then casting [[DaywalkingVampire Protection from Daylight]] on him took out one of his redundant sources of the spell and made him vulnerable to Nale dispelling it and then taking away the remaining backup.]]
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