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23rd Jul '16 4:22:17 PM Psychopompos007
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The two major families of Whiterun driven into a grim rivalry when they took opposite sides of the war, Battle-Born with the Empire and Gray-Mane with the Stormcloaks. Tropes specific to Vignar Gray-Mane can be found on the Characters/SkyrimCivilWar page.

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The two major families of Whiterun driven into a grim rivalry when they took opposite sides of the war, Battle-Born with the Empire and Gray-Mane with the Stormcloaks. Tropes specific to Vignar Gray-Mane can be found on the Characters/SkyrimCivilWar page, and tropes specific to Eorlund Gray-mane can be found on the Characters/SkyrimFactions page.
21st Jul '16 4:47:14 AM Psychopompos007
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The two major families of Whiterun driven into a grim rivalry when they took opposite sides of the war, Battle-Born with the Empire and Gray-Mane with the Stormcloaks.

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The two major families of Whiterun driven into a grim rivalry when they took opposite sides of the war, Battle-Born with the Empire and Gray-Mane with the Stormcloaks.
Stormcloaks. Tropes specific to Vignar Gray-Mane can be found on the Characters/SkyrimCivilWar page.
18th Jul '16 12:08:03 AM Sally777
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Added DiffLines:

** If you take his route out of Cidhna Mine (killing the Forsworn present and escaping), then he conveniently becomes a connection to you. A connection you can sacrifice to empower the Ebony Blade. Possibly one of the few times a player will feel glee at hearing "Excellent work, my child~".
17th Jul '16 3:31:12 PM Discar
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* TheChosenOne: A weird subversion; he was supposed to become this according to a prophecy, which stated he would unite the ten kings ruling the Reach. However, [[OutsideContextVillain the Empire]] arrived and invaded the Reach, killing or bribing the ten kings and ruining all his chances to fulfill the prophecy.

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* TheChosenOne: A weird subversion; he was supposed to become this according to a prophecy, which stated he would unite the ten kings ruling the Reach. However, [[OutsideContextVillain [[OutsideContextProblem the Empire]] arrived and invaded the Reach, killing or bribing the ten kings and ruining all his chances to fulfill the prophecy.
13th Jul '16 7:56:52 PM TotemicHero
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* VagueAge: Not counting [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Babette]], he's the sole aversion of this trope among the children in Skyrim. A letter in his house very clearly states he was 10 when his mother died, making him either 10 or 11 during the events of the game.
6th Jul '16 10:20:49 AM BossKey
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* DespairEventHorizon: After learning that [[spoiler:the White Phial is broken, and the knowledge to fix it is long gone]].



* DespairEventHorizon: After learning that [[spoiler:the White Phial is broken, and the knowledge to fix it is long gone]].
* HopeSpot: You finally find the phial and return it to him.

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* DespairEventHorizon: After learning that [[spoiler:the White Phial is broken, and the knowledge to fix it is long gone]].
* HopeSpot: You finally find the phial and return it to him. However, see DespairEventHorizon above for how that turns out.



* LetThemDieHappy: [[spoiler:Until his assistant manages to do it, with your help, and is able to show it to him seconds before his last breath]].

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* LetThemDieHappy: [[spoiler:Until his [[spoiler:His assistant manages to do it, eventually repairs the Phial with your help, and is able to show it to him seconds before his last breath]].



%%* {{Jerkass}}

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%%* {{Jerkass}}* {{Jerkass}}: He really does and says everything he can to make you ''not'' want to like him. Frankly, it's a wonder he's related to Galmar at all.



%%* OlderThanTheyLook

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%%* OlderThanTheyLook* OlderThanTheyLook: She claims to have aged well. Of course, she neglects to mention ''how.''



%%* AxCrazy

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%%* AxCrazy* AxCrazy: The one thing she's best remembered for by the citizens of Skyrim. Falk is very right to be worried about her returning to life.



%%* HeWhoFightsMonsters

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%%* HeWhoFightsMonsters* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Started out fighting vampires, only to end up as one himself.



%% * BadassGrandpa

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%% * BadassGrandpaBadassGrandpa: Proves him quite the powerful mage if you help him escape the mine (or try to off him inside it).



%% * RebelLeader

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%% * RebelLeaderRebelLeader: For the Forsworn.



%%* ActionGirl

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%%* ActionGirl* ActionGirl: Pretty much a prerequisite for a female housecarl, and she gets to show it by leading the charge against dragons.



%%* {{Jerkass}}

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%%* {{Jerkass}}* {{Jerkass}}: Listen in on the market conversations and you'll note that he's unpleasant to pretty much everybody.
4th Jul '16 1:22:20 AM Eagal
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* AdventurerArchaeologist

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* %%* AdventurerArchaeologist



* InterspeciesRomance: With Faleen, a Redguard...
** MayflyDecemberRomance: ...who can't possibly be more than 40, while Calcelmo has centuries behind him and centuries left to go.

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* InterspeciesRomance: With Faleen, a Redguard...
** MayflyDecemberRomance: ...who
Redguard.
* MayflyDecemberRomance: Faleen
can't possibly be more than 40, while Calcelmo has centuries behind him and centuries left to go.



* {{Adorkable}}

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* %%* {{Adorkable}}



* NiceGuy

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* %%* NiceGuy



* BoomerangBigot: Their hatred of the Nords, as they are historically descended from both Bretons ''and'' Nords.



** BoomerangBigot: Their hatred of the Nords, as they are historically descended from both Bretons ''and'' Nords.



* RootingForTheEmpire: An in-universe example, as one of the books you can find dotted about Skyrim is written by a scholar as a serious defense of the Forsworn and attempts to justify their rightful historical claim to the Reach.



** RootingForTheEmpire: An in-universe example, as one of the books you can find dotted about Skyrim is written by a scholar as a serious defense of the Forsworn and attempts to justify their rightful historical claim to the Reach.

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** RootingForTheEmpire: An in-universe example, as one of the books you can find dotted about Skyrim is written by a scholar as a serious defense of the Forsworn and attempts to justify their rightful historical claim to the Reach.



* GhostlyGoals / UnfinishedBusiness: His ghost is restless due to "Hjalti" (aka Tiber Septim) apparently promising to grant him his sword after a battle as a sign that they were sworn brothers. For some unstated reason - perhaps because the warrior died during the battle in question - this never happened. After mistaking the Dragonborn for Hjalti (due to both being Dragonborn), he begs them to find the sword and fulfill this oath.

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* GhostlyGoals / UnfinishedBusiness: GhostlyGoals: His ghost is restless due to "Hjalti" (aka Tiber Septim) apparently promising to grant him his sword after a battle as a sign that they were sworn brothers. For some unstated reason - perhaps because the warrior died during the battle in question - this never happened. After mistaking the Dragonborn for Hjalti (due to both being Dragonborn), he begs them to find the sword and fulfill this oath.



%% * {{Badass}}



A young Breton girl working for the Markarth apothecary. Despite her innocent demeanor, she experienced a tragic past, causing her to become obsessed with revenge. [[spoiler:She's obsessed to the point of summoning the Dark Brotherhood to carry it out.]]

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A young Breton girl working for the Markarth apothecary. Despite her innocent demeanor, she experienced a tragic past, causing her to become obsessed with revenge. [[spoiler:She's She's obsessed to the point of summoning the Dark Brotherhood to carry it out.]]
out.



* BrokenBird: Read the spoilers to learn why.

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* BrokenBird: Read the spoilers to learn why.%%* BrokenBird



* {{Jerkass}}

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* %%* {{Jerkass}}



* AwesomeMcCoolName
* {{Badass}}: While alive, he managed to kick the Imperial Legions out of the Reach, and even though they came back and eventually defeated him, he managed to slaughter a thousand of enemies before dying.
** OneManArmy: Thanks to a DealWithTheDevil.

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* AwesomeMcCoolName
* {{Badass}}: While alive, he managed to kick the Imperial Legions out of the Reach, and even though they came back and eventually defeated him, he managed to slaughter a thousand of enemies before dying.
** OneManArmy: Thanks to a DealWithTheDevil.
%%* AwesomeMcCoolName



** FlamingSword: Regardless of which version the sword you have on you, it has a fire damage enchantment on it. [[spoiler:When you fight him, he's packing a fire-enchanted {{BFS}}.]]



* FlamingSword: Regardless of which version of the sword you have on you, it has a fire damage enchantment on it. [[spoiler:When you fight him, he's packing a fire-enchanted {{BFS}}.]]



* LastStand[=/=]DyingMomentOfAwesome: As mentioned above, he confronted the Imperial Legions on his own with nothing but his sword in the final battle, and managed to slaughter a thousand of them before dying.

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* LastStand[=/=]DyingMomentOfAwesome: LastStand: As mentioned above, he confronted the Imperial Legions on his own with nothing but his sword in the final battle, and managed to slaughter a thousand of them before dying.
* OneManArmy: While alive, he managed to kick the Imperial Legions out of the Reach, and even though they came back and eventually defeated him, he managed to slaughter a thousand of enemies before
dying.



!!Brand-Shei [[spoiler: (Brandyl Telvanni)]]

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!!Brand-Shei [[spoiler: (Brandyl Telvanni)]]Telvanni)



* DeadpanSnarker
** SnarkToSnarkCombat: With Brynjolf in the starting Thieves' Guild quest.

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* DeadpanSnarker
** SnarkToSnarkCombat: With Brynjolf in the starting Thieves' Guild quest.
%%* DeadpanSnarker



* [[spoiler: SecretLegacy: He's actually one of last surviving members of House Telvanni.]]

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* [[spoiler: SecretLegacy: He's actually one of last surviving members of House Telvanni.]]Telvanni.
* SnarkToSnarkCombat: With Brynjolf in the starting Thieves' Guild quest.



* AsskickingEqualsAuthority[=/=]AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: As per usual with orcs, the chieftain proves he's worthy of his position by being a great warrior. The problem for this particular tribe is that Yamarz very very much isn't.

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority[=/=]AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: AsskickingEqualsAuthority: As per usual with orcs, the chieftain proves he's worthy of his position by being a great warrior. The problem for this particular tribe is that Yamarz very very much isn't.



* [[NoTrueScotsman No True Orc]]: He will express this opinion toward an Orc Dragonborn, who he will call a "filthy city Orc". Ironically enough, this trope is pretty much what Malacath thinks of ''him''.

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* [[NoTrueScotsman No True Orc]]: NoTrueScotsman: He will express this opinion toward an Orc Dragonborn, who he will call a "filthy city Orc". Ironically enough, this trope is pretty much what Malacath thinks of ''him''.



* BlatantLies[=/=]{{Irony}}: Her sobriquet. Even adults know that it's a complete lie.
* ChildHater
* EvilOldFolks

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* BlatantLies[=/=]{{Irony}}: Her sobriquet. Even adults know that it's a complete lie.
*
%%* ChildHater
* %%* EvilOldFolks



* IronicNickname

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* IronicNicknameIronicNickname: She's called "the Kind" but is anything but. Even adults know that it's a complete lie.



** OneHitpointWonder

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** OneHitpointWonder



** JerkassHasAPoint: If you stick long enough in the Bunkhouse, you might hear a dialogue between her and Svana revealing that Svana is in a flirting relationship with Sibbi Black-Briar. Haelga tells her niece rather cynically that Sibbi just want to sleep with her. While it's mean to say such a thing, considering [[TheCasanova what we know]] [[TheSociopath of Sibbi]], she is almost certainly right.

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** * JerkassHasAPoint: If you stick long enough in the Bunkhouse, you might hear a dialogue between her and Svana revealing that Svana is in a flirting relationship with Sibbi Black-Briar. Haelga tells her niece rather cynically that Sibbi just want wants to sleep with her. While it's mean to say such a thing, considering [[TheCasanova what we know]] [[TheSociopath of Sibbi]], she is almost certainly right.



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast
NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: To maul is to wound by scratching and tearing. ''A'' maul is basically [[DropTheHammer a big ass hammer]].



* TheSociopath

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* %%* TheSociopath



** TheCuckoolanderWasRight: Turns out that there actually is a working model of the Heart of Lorkhan in the College - namely, Arniel's warped soul gem. However, since no one else in the College is aware of this fact, it's presumably some sort of lucky guess on her part.

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** * TheCuckoolanderWasRight: Turns out that there actually is a working model of the Heart of Lorkhan in the College - namely, Arniel's warped soul gem. However, since no one else in the College is aware of this fact, it's presumably some sort of lucky guess on her part.



* {{Badass}}: Alvor has his moments; for instance, if a dragon attacks Riverwood, he'll pick up an axe and attack the dragon for as long as he stays alive. Of course, this also makes him a FearlessFool as he will likely die in the attempt.

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* {{Badass}}: BadassNormal: Alvor has his moments; for instance, if a dragon attacks Riverwood, he'll pick up an axe and attack the dragon for as long as he stays alive. Of course, this also makes him a FearlessFool as he will likely die in the attempt.



* [[PuppetKing Puppet Advisor]]: Apparently, half the advice he gives the Jarl is actually from his daughter, or so she claims.

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* [[PuppetKing PuppetKing: Puppet Advisor]]: Adviser anyway. Apparently, half the advice he gives the Jarl is actually from his daughter, or so she claims.



* [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect Nord Mages Get No Respect]]: Especially not from [[spoiler:angry dragons]]. He's also frustrated with people who are too closed-minded.

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* [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect Nord Mages Get No Respect]]: KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect: Especially not from [[spoiler:angry dragons]]. He's also frustrated with people who are too closed-minded.



* NotSoDifferent: For reasons mentioned above.

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* NotSoDifferent: For reasons mentioned above.%%* NotSoDifferent



* [[SpartanSibling Spartan Family]]: Lars Battle-Born, a child, will say that his family regards him as a milk-drinker and a weakling due to 'allowing' himself to be bullied by Braithe.

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* [[SpartanSibling Spartan Family]]: SpartanSibling: Lars Battle-Born, a child, will say that his family regards him as a milk-drinker and a weakling due to 'allowing' himself to be bullied by Braithe. Braithe.



* PreacherMan

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* %%* PreacherMan



* ActionGirl

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* %%* ActionGirl



* DummiedOut: When asked about the dangers of her job, she will mention that sometimes it feels as if even the Jarl's own children are planning to murder him. This is just dark humor in the final game, but in the game files there are vestiges of a different ending to an existing quest that would culminate in the children falling under the influence of a Daedric prince [[SelfMadeOrphan and doing just that]].



** DummiedOut: When asked about the dangers of her job, she will mention that sometimes it feels as if even the Jarl's own children are planning to murder him. This is just dark humor in the final game, but in the game files there are vestiges of a different ending to an existing quest that would culminate in the children falling under the influence of a Daedric prince [[SelfMadeOrphan and doing just that]].



* [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Why Don't You Just Stab Him?]]: She considers this a viable solution against obsequious functionaries and incompetent bureaucrats that hound the Jarl. Unfortunately, she's not allowed to.

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* [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Why Don't You Just Stab Him?]]: WhyDontYouJustShootHim: She considers this stabbing a viable solution against obsequious functionaries and incompetent bureaucrats that hound the Jarl. Unfortunately, she's not allowed to.



* {{Jerkass}}: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKC2-oJZnc Have a look]].
* NoAccountingForTaste

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* {{Jerkass}}: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKC2-oJZnc Have a look]].
*
%%* {{Jerkass}}
%%*
NoAccountingForTaste



* VeryPunchableMan

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* %%* VeryPunchableMan



* [[spoiler: KilledOffForReal: During the Battle for Whiterun.]]
* NiceGuy

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* [[spoiler: KilledOffForReal: During the Battle for Whiterun.]]
*
Whiterun.
%%*
NiceGuy



* [[EvilSmellsBad Dark Smells Bad]]: Or more specifically, according to Dagur, [[ShoutOut like a beast that's]] "[[Film/GalaxyQuest been turned inside-out and exploded]]."



* EvilSmellsBad: Or more specifically, according to Dagur, [[ShoutOut like a beast that's]] "[[Film/GalaxyQuest been turned inside-out and exploded]]."



* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}

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* %%* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}



* TheHermit

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* %%* TheHermit



* MadOracle

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* %%* MadOracle



* ThirdPersonPerson
* [[spoiler:YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness]]: [[spoiler:Due to his insanity, Hermaeus Mora no longer considers him useful and he disappears in a flash of light upon finding the Oghma Infinium.]]

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* %%* ThirdPersonPerson
* [[spoiler:YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness]]: YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: [[spoiler:Due to his insanity, Hermaeus Mora no longer considers him useful and he disappears in a flash of light upon finding the Oghma Infinium.]]



* [[ArtifactTitle Artifact Sobriquet]]: In-universe example. M'aiq the Liar served as an AuthorAvatar giving cryptic {{Take That}}s right from his introduction in ''Morrowind'', but the ''in-universe'' untruthfulness of (most of) his comments were toned down for ''Oblivion'' and ''Skyrim''.

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* [[ArtifactTitle Artifact Sobriquet]]: ArtifactTitle: In-universe example. M'aiq the Liar served as an AuthorAvatar giving cryptic {{Take That}}s right from his introduction in ''Morrowind'', but the ''in-universe'' untruthfulness of (most of) his comments were toned down for ''Oblivion'' and ''Skyrim''.



* EasterEgg

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* %%* EasterEgg



* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NoNameGiven: His character name is just "Old Orc." And that's exactly what he is!

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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin / NoNameGiven: ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: His character name is just "Old Orc." And that's exactly what he is!is!
* FaceDeathWithDignity: He explains that he wishes to die while he can "still call himself a proper man", elaborating that he doesn't want to linger on to the point where he's frail and feeble. He further explains that it's "unseemly" to cling to something after it becomes useless, including your own life.



** FaceDeathWithDignity: He explains that he wishes to die while he can "still call himself a proper man", elaborating that he doesn't want to linger on to the point where he's frail and feeble. He further explains that it's "unseemly" to cling to something after it becomes useless, including your own life.



** Of course, if the Nords didn't actively shun the Khajiit and allowed them inside their cities to conduct better, more honest, and profitable commerce, [[spoiler: it's dubious if they'd need to act as fences and sell stolen goods]]. Alternatively, given that Elsweyr has become a vassal of the Aldmeri Dominion willingly (or perhaps were manipulated into doing so), the Nords don't trust any Khajiit. Of course, during a certain quest chain, Ri'saad shows that he considers all Thalmor to be filth. And the way he mentions it seems to suggest that it's a common view amongst Khajiit.
*** Note that Moon Sugar is a vital religious drug for pretty much any Khajiit.



* BadassBeard

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* %%* BadassBeard
4th Jul '16 1:03:24 AM Eagal
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An arrogant and shady Thane of Haafingar. [[spoiler: Has close ties with the Thieves Guild.]]

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An arrogant and shady Thane of Haafingar. [[spoiler: Has close ties with the Thieves Guild.]]
Guild.



* {{Jerkass}}: One of the finest examples in the game.
* KarmaHoudini: Causes a Bosmer slave girl to be sent to the Thalmor torture chambers, just because she refused his romantic advances. Sadly, the player cannot make him repent the deed, as he is an essential (unkillable) character. To make matters worse, every time he encounters the player afterward, he acts overly friendly towards him/her. On the other hand, his "essential" tag gets removed after completing the Civil War questline, so after that he's free game. The only thing his death screws up is [[spoiler: an achievement/trophy tied to the Thieves' Guild questline.]]

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* {{Jerkass}}: One of In addition to just being generally unpleasant, he causes a Bosmer slave girl to be sent to the finest examples in the game.
Thalmor torture chambers, just because she refused his romantic advances.
* KarmaHoudini: Causes As mentioned, he causes a Bosmer slave girl to be sent to the Thalmor torture chambers, just because she refused his romantic advances. Sadly, the player cannot make him repent the deed, as he is an essential (unkillable) character. To make matters worse, every time he encounters the player afterward, he acts overly friendly towards him/her. On the other hand, his "essential" tag gets removed after completing the Civil War questline, so after that he's free game. The only thing his death screws up is [[spoiler: an achievement/trophy tied to the Thieves' Guild questline.]]



* {{Badass}}
** BadassBookworm: Seeing how he is both a Bard (which in this universe requires a significant amount of knowledge of the history of Nirn) and a librarian...
** CulturedBadass: Well, he ''is'' a bard.
** RetiredBadass: Used to be in the Legion. If you find the drum of a legendary bard for him, he'll teach you a few of his old tricks - giving you a skill point in each martial skill.

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* {{Badass}}
**
BadassBookworm: Seeing how he is both a Bard (which in this universe requires a significant amount of knowledge of the history of Nirn) and a librarian...
** * CulturedBadass: Well, he ''is'' a bard.
** RetiredBadass: Used to be in the Legion. If you find the drum of a legendary bard for him, he'll teach you a few of his old tricks - giving you a skill point in each martial skill.
bard.



* NiceHat

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* %%* NiceHat




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* RetiredBadass: Used to be in the Legion. If you find the drum of a legendary bard for him, he'll teach you a few of his old tricks - giving you a skill point in each martial skill.



* [[NoTrueScotsman No True Nord]]: Feels that any true Nord would understand what Ulfric did, and would have opened the gate in his place.

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* [[NoTrueScotsman No True Nord]]: NoTrueScotsman: Feels that any true Nord would understand what Ulfric did, and would have opened the gate in his place.



The court mage for Jarl Elisif's court. [[spoiler:She is actually a vampire, which seems to be a well-kept secret among the higher members of the Haafingar court.]]

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The court mage for Jarl Elisif's court. [[spoiler:She She is actually a vampire, which seems to be a well-kept secret among the higher members of the Haafingar court.]]
court.



* [[spoiler:FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: She's a bit of a {{Jerkass}}, sure, but when compared to most vampires out there...]]
** Of course, [[spoiler:if you use Auriel's Bow to blot out the sun, she'll run outside and proclaim that the Tyranny of the Sun is over.]]

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* [[spoiler:FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: She's a bit of a {{Jerkass}}, sure, but when compared to most vampires out there...]]
**
there, at least she's a good guy. Of course, [[spoiler:if you use Auriel's Bow to blot out the sun, she'll run outside and proclaim that the Tyranny of the Sun is over.]]



* OlderThanTheyLook: See the spoiler below.

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* OlderThanTheyLook: See the spoiler below.%%* OlderThanTheyLook



* [[spoiler:TheUndead]]: It's a well kept secret. [[PaperThinDisguise Not so much by ''Dawnguard''.]]

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* [[spoiler:TheUndead]]: TheUndead: It's a well kept secret. [[PaperThinDisguise Not so much by ''Dawnguard''.]]



* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: As noted on the main list of tropes, absolutely ''no one'' in Skyrim has anything nice to say about her, and for very good reasons.



* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: As noted on the main list of tropes, absolutely ''no one'' in Skyrim has anything nice to say about her, and for very good reasons.
* AxCrazy: ''Good god.''
* BigYes[=/=]EvilIsHammy: Her reaction to being summoned and then bound by the necromancers in Wolfskull Cave falls under both of these.

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%%* AxCrazy
* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: As noted on the main list of tropes, absolutely ''no one'' in Skyrim has anything nice to say about her, and for very good reasons.
* AxCrazy: ''Good god.''
* BigYes[=/=]EvilIsHammy:
BigYes: Her reaction to being summoned and then bound by the necromancers in Wolfskull Cave falls under both of these.



* GuideDangIt: Until the patch. See LostForever under the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Skyrim/TropesH-M L tropes folder]].

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* GuideDangIt: Until the patch. See LostForever under the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Skyrim/TropesH-M L tropes folder]].%%* GuideDangIt



* LargeHam

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* %%* LargeHam



* TheUndead

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* TheUndeadTheUndead: She's actually a vampire.



* [[spoiler:BodyguardBetrayal: Despite his loyalty to Idgrod, he wishes to see her removed from her position because he thinks her powers are taking their toll on her and she isn't fit for duty anymore. It's as much for her own safety as it is for Morthal. Nothing really comes of it, since his confidant Captain Aldis isn't wholly convinced.]]

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* [[spoiler:BodyguardBetrayal: BodyguardBetrayal: Despite his loyalty to Idgrod, he wishes to see her removed from her position because he thinks her powers are taking their toll on her and she isn't fit for duty anymore. It's as much for her own safety as it is for Morthal. Nothing really comes of it, since his confidant Captain Aldis isn't wholly convinced.]]



* [[spoiler: GoIntoTheLight: Once Movarth has been destroyed, Helgi's spirit appears for a final time, thanking the Dragonborn and noting that "Mother says it's time to rest now." By resolving her murder, you set her spirit free.]]

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* [[spoiler: GoIntoTheLight: Once Movarth has been destroyed, Helgi's spirit appears for a final time, thanking the Dragonborn and noting that "Mother says it's time to rest now." By resolving her murder, you set her spirit free.]]



* InformedFlaw: Well, to be fair, it should be fairly obvious considering his voice when he talks, but he is never heard actually singing in the game.
** You actually can ask him for a song right before you kill him. The results are [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vb5ZZMm6Kk horrific]].
*** {{Hollywood Tone Deaf}}: While the "song" is tuneless and rambling, Lurbuk's actual singing voice isn't all that terrible. One gets the impression that if he wised up and took a few classes at the Bard's College, he'd be okay. But, [[SmallNameBigEgo well]]...

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* InformedFlaw: Well, to be fair, it should be fairly obvious considering his voice when he talks, but he is never heard actually singing in the game.
**
HollywoodToneDeaf: You actually can ask him for a song right before you kill killing him. The results are [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vb5ZZMm6Kk horrific]].
*** {{Hollywood Tone Deaf}}:
While the "song" is tuneless and rambling, Lurbuk's actual singing voice isn't all that terrible. One gets the impression that if he wised up and took a few classes at the Bard's College, he'd be okay. But, [[SmallNameBigEgo well]]...



* [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie And Then Movarth Was A Vampire]]: Movarth used to be a devoted vampire hunter; it was an obsession that consumed his life. Then he met the author of ''Immortal Blood''. Now he's everything he once fought against and worse.

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* [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie And Then Movarth Was A Vampire]]: AndThenJohnWasAZombie: Movarth used to be a devoted vampire hunter; it was an obsession that consumed his life. Then he met the author of ''Immortal Blood''. Now he's everything he once fought against and worse.



* HeWhoFightsMonsters

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* %%* HeWhoFightsMonsters



* TheUndead

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* TheUndead
TheUndead: He's a vampire.



* AmericansHateTingle: In-universe example; Olaf One-eye is hailed as a hero and a legend in Whiterun (with Jarl Balgruuf descending from him), to the point that most historians don't know that High King Olaf and Olaf One-eye are the same person, finding his popularity in Whiterun to be irreconcilable with the hatred Solitude has for him.



* BadassMustache

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* %%* BadassMustache



* GuileHero[=/=]ManipulativeBastard: According to King Olaf's Verse, he came to power in Skyrim through deals and promises of power to get the holds to fall in line. However, see LiteraryAgentHypothesis.

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* GuileHero[=/=]ManipulativeBastard: GuileHero: According to King Olaf's Verse, he came to power in Skyrim through deals and promises of power to get the holds to fall in line. However, see LiteraryAgentHypothesis.



* [[AmericansHateTingle Solitudians Hate Olaf]]: In-universe example; Olaf One-eye is hailed as a hero and a legend in Whiterun (with Jarl Balgruuf descending from him), to the point that most historians don't know that High King Olaf and Olaf One-eye are the same person, finding his popularity in Whiterun to be irreconcilable with the hatred Solitude has for him.



A bard who opposed Olaf One-Eye and the writer of King Olaf's Verse. His ghost haunts the tomb where Olaf is buried. [[spoiler:You later find his spirit wandering the mists of Sovngarde, if you finished the questline in the tomb and put him to rest.]]

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A bard who opposed Olaf One-Eye and the writer of King Olaf's Verse. His ghost haunts the tomb where Olaf is buried. [[spoiler:You You later find his spirit wandering the mists of Sovngarde, if you finished the questline in the tomb and put him to rest.]]
rest.



* [[spoiler: UnfinishedBusiness: "Olaf! Let us finish this!"]]

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* [[spoiler: UnfinishedBusiness: "Olaf! Let us finish this!"]]this!"



* [[spoiler:KilledOffScreen: Everyone in the Hall of the Vigilant, Carcette included, is slain by Volkihar vampires once ''Dawnguard'' is installed (if the player is level 10 or higher - lower level players and new characters can still visit the hall before it's destroyed).]]

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* [[spoiler:KilledOffScreen: KilledOffScreen: Everyone in the Hall of the Vigilant, Carcette included, is slain by Volkihar vampires once ''Dawnguard'' is installed (if the player is level 10 or higher - lower level players and new characters can still visit the hall before it's destroyed).]]



* TooDumbToLive: The storyline of ''Dawnguard'' reveals that not only did they not accept that [[spoiler:the Volkihar vampires were out of their league]], but [[spoiler:when [[BullyingADragon warned about it by the leader of the Dawnguard]], Carcette basically thumbed her nose at him and blindly led her entire organization to its doom.]]



** TooDumbToLive: The storyline of ''Dawnguard'' reveals that not only did they not accept that [[spoiler:the Volkihar vampires were out of their league]], but [[spoiler:when [[BullyingADragon warned about it by the leader of the Dawnguard]], Carcette basically thumbed her nose at him and blindly led her entire organization to its doom.]]

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** TooDumbToLive: The storyline of ''Dawnguard'' reveals that not only did they not accept that [[spoiler:the Volkihar vampires were out of their league]], but [[spoiler:when [[BullyingADragon warned about it by the leader of the Dawnguard]], Carcette basically thumbed her nose at him and blindly led her entire organization to its doom.]]



* {{Badass}}: It takes guts to dust off the old Legion armor in a Stormcloak city when the Jarl wants him executed.
* BaldOfAwesome

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* {{Badass}}: It takes guts to dust off the old Legion armor in a Stormcloak city when the Jarl wants him executed.
*
%%* BaldOfAwesome



* RetiredBadass: One who comes out of retirement. It takes guts to dust off the old Legion armor in a Stormcloak city when the Jarl wants him executed.



* CourtMage

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* CourtMageCourtMage: For Dawnstar.



* [[spoiler:FaceDeathWithDignity: If you decline his offer of money in exchange of sparing his life and decide to just kill him, he elects to go down fighting and attacks you.]]

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* [[spoiler:FaceDeathWithDignity: FaceDeathWithDignity: If you decline his offer of money in exchange of sparing his life and decide to just kill him, he elects to go down fighting and attacks you.]]



* SadisticChoice[=/=]FriendOrIdolDecision: [[spoiler: You can either betray and kill Silus to get Mehrunes' Razor, or spare his life and forfeit the chance to reforge the weapon, leaving you with only the disassembled fragments.]]

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* SadisticChoice[=/=]FriendOrIdolDecision: SadisticChoice: [[spoiler: You can either betray and kill Silus to get Mehrunes' Razor, or spare his life and forfeit the chance to reforge the weapon, leaving you with only the disassembled fragments.]]



* [[spoiler: YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Mehrunes Dagon declares this, although it's up to the player whether to actually kill him or not.]]

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* [[spoiler: YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Mehrunes Dagon declares this, although it's up to the player whether to actually kill him or not.]]
not.
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!!Erandur ([[spoiler:formerly Casimir]])

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!!Erandur ([[spoiler:formerly Casimir]])(formerly Casimir)



* [[spoiler:TheAtoner: Used to be a Daedric Lord's priest, but abandoned his order and became a priest of Mara instead.]]

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* [[spoiler:TheAtoner: TheAtoner: Used to be a Daedric Lord's priest, but abandoned his order and became a priest of Mara instead.]]



* BadassPreacher

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* %%* BadassPreacher



* [[spoiler: HeelFaithTurn]]

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* [[spoiler: HeelFaithTurn]]HeelFaithTurn: He used to worship a Daedric Prince, but turned good and started worshiping Mara instead.



* SadisticChoice / FriendOrIdolDecision: [[spoiler:It's either have him as follower, or kill him and gain possession of a nice magic staff.]] Of course, it's not really sadistic if you're a good guy, [[spoiler:since doing the bidding of the Lady of Nightmares is not something you'd be inclined to do even if it ''didn't'' involve killing a decent man. However, if you're attempting to get the "Oblivion Walker" achievement, letting him live means giving up the chance to acquire one of the fifteen required artifacts.]]

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* SadisticChoice / FriendOrIdolDecision: SadisticChoice: [[spoiler:It's either have him as follower, or kill him and gain possession of a nice magic staff.]] Of course, it's not really sadistic if you're a good guy, [[spoiler:since doing the bidding of the Lady of Nightmares is not something you'd be inclined to do even if it ''didn't'' involve killing a decent man. However, if you're attempting to get the "Oblivion Walker" achievement, letting him live means giving up the chance to acquire one of the fifteen required artifacts.]]



* AnAxeToGrind
* {{Badass}}

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* AnAxeToGrind
* {{Badass}}
%%* AnAxeToGrind



* EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette

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* %%* EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette



* HotWitch

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* %%* HotWitch



* DarkIsNotEvil

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* DarkIsNotEvilDarkIsNotEvil: Azura is a Daedric Prince, but she's one of the nicer ones. Aranea is completely loyal to her and is quite nice herself.



* {{High Priest}}ess
* HotWitch
* LadyOfBlackMagic

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* {{High Priest}}ess
*
Priest}}ess: Of Azura.
%%*
HotWitch
* %%* LadyOfBlackMagic



* AxeCrazy
* BloodKnight

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* %%* AxeCrazy
* %%* BloodKnight



* DarkActionGirl

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* %%* DarkActionGirl



* PsychoSidekick

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* %%* PsychoSidekick



* TheUnfettered

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* %%* TheUnfettered



* NiceGuy

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* %%* NiceGuy



* AdventureArchaeologist: He claims to be highly knowledgeable on the topic of Nordic ruins and will consider taking a few items from Dwemer ruins to take back to Cyrodiil.



** AdventureArchaeologist: He claims to be highly knowledgeable on the topic of Nordic ruins and will consider taking a few items from Dwemer ruins to take back to Cyrodiil.



* JustFriends[=/=]PlatonicLifePartners: Apparently, herself and Aerin. Aerin will go ''anywhere'' Mjoll goes - including ''your'' house, should you marry her. He will even follow her [[spoiler:to Sky Haven Temple, should you get her to join the Blades!]]

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* JustFriends[=/=]PlatonicLifePartners: JustFriends: Apparently, herself and Aerin. Aerin will go ''anywhere'' Mjoll goes - including ''your'' house, should you marry her. He will even follow her [[spoiler:to Sky Haven Temple, should you get her to join the Blades!]]



* MightMakesRight

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* %%* MightMakesRight



* NamedWeapons: Grimsever.

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* NamedWeapons: Her sword, Grimsever.



* [[NotNowKiddo Not Now, Mother]]: At first he believes his mother is crazy for thinking a dragon attacked Helgen. He takes it back (though not to her face) if you inform him there really ''was'' a dragon.

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* [[NotNowKiddo Not Now, Mother]]: NotNowKiddo: At first he believes his mother is crazy for thinking a dragon attacked Helgen. He takes it back (though not to her face) if you inform him there really ''was'' a dragon.



* ActionGirl

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* %%* ActionGirl



* BrawnHilda

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* %%* BrawnHilda



* [[EverythingIsRacist Everything Is Chauvinist]]: You've only got her word for it that the Companions (who count several female members among their ranks) were against her from the start.
** This leads to some confusion, if not HypocriticalHumor, if you're playing a female Dragonborn who has completed the Companions' questline [[spoiler:and been named Harbinger]], since you're living proof that the outfit is not remotely sexist.
* FieryRedhead
* TheLadette
* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Girl]]

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* [[EverythingIsRacist Everything Is Chauvinist]]: You've only got her word for it that the Companions (who count several female members among their ranks) were against her from the start.
** This leads to some confusion, if not HypocriticalHumor, if you're playing a female Dragonborn who has completed the Companions' questline [[spoiler:and been named Harbinger]], since you're living proof that the outfit is not remotely sexist.
*
%%* FieryRedhead
* %%* TheLadette
* %%* [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Girl]]




to:

* StrawFeminist: You've only got her word for it that the Companions (who count several female members among their ranks) were against her from the start. This leads to some confusion, if not HypocriticalHumor, if you're playing a female Dragonborn who has completed the Companions' questline [[spoiler:and been named Harbinger]], since you're living proof that the outfit is not remotely sexist.



* CreepyChild: He's a little boy trying to contact a cult of death-worshiping assassins using what are heavily implied to be ''his dead mother's remains'' as the necessary body parts for the Black Sacrament.
** It's also clear that some time has passed between his mother's death, his stay at the orphanage, and his return to Windhelm - meaning that he would have had to go grave-robbing to retrieve her remains, if they are even hers.

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* CreepyChild: He's a little boy trying to contact a cult of death-worshiping assassins using what are heavily implied to be ''his dead mother's remains'' as the necessary body parts for the Black Sacrament.
**
Sacrament. It's also clear that some time has passed between his mother's death, his stay at the orphanage, and his return to Windhelm - meaning that he would have had to go grave-robbing to retrieve her remains, if they are even hers.



* TakeThatPlayer: His quest, and the overall introduction to the Dark Brotherhood, is carefully designed to make you feel a little ashamed of yourself. In ''Oblivion'', it was possible to be contacted by the Brotherhood by accident, but not so in this game. Specifically, you must break into Aventus's home, get mistaken for or pretend to be someone you're not (although the only other choice is to walk away and leave the quest unfinished), murder an AssholeVictim in cold blood, and then return to a child and tell him that [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop you just solved all of his problems through murder]]. Again, congratulations on screwing up a kid even worse than he was before, Dovahkiin!
** It gets worse - he never goes back to the orphanage, despite saying that's what he'd do if you succeeded in killing the evil old woman. Instead, when you go back to talk to him, he tells you quite happily that he's going to grow up to be an assassin like you so he can help children, too.
*** There ''is'' an AI package for him to go back to the orphanage (it just doesn't have a quest stage check assigned to it), so it ''is'' just a bug that he stays in the house. Wanting to grow up to be an assassin, however, is certainly ''not'' a bug - and even with ''Hearthfire'' installed, it takes precedence over the adoption dialogue, so he's the one orphan that ''can't'' be adopted.

to:

* TakeThatPlayer: His quest, and the overall introduction to the Dark Brotherhood, is carefully designed to make you feel a little ashamed of yourself. In ''Oblivion'', it was possible to be contacted by the Brotherhood by accident, but not so in this game. Specifically, you must break into Aventus's home, get mistaken for or pretend to be someone you're not (although the only other choice is to walk away and leave the quest unfinished), murder an AssholeVictim in cold blood, and then return to a child and tell him that [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop you just solved all of his problems through murder]]. Again, congratulations on screwing up a kid even worse than he was before, Dovahkiin!
** It gets worse - he never goes back to the orphanage, despite saying that's what he'd do if you succeeded in killing the evil old woman. Instead, when you go back to talk to him, he
murder. He also tells you quite happily that he's going to grow up to be an assassin like you so he can help children, too.
*** There ''is'' an AI package for him
too. Also, due to go back a bug he'll never actually return to the orphanage (it just doesn't have a quest stage check assigned to it), so it ''is'' just a bug that he stays in you can't adopt him (with the house. Wanting to grow up to be an assassin, however, is certainly ''not'' a bug - Hearthfire DLC) and even with ''Hearthfire'' installed, it takes precedence over the adoption dialogue, so he's the one orphan that ''can't'' be adopted.potentially guide him towards a nobler path.



The eccentric proprietor of Windhelm's House of Curiosities, where he has an interesting variety of items on display. [[spoiler:And a very dark secret.]]

* [[spoiler:AffablyEvil: He's pretty friendly for a brutal murderer.]]
* [[spoiler:BewareTheNiceOnes: His cheery and eccentric demeanour masks a core of ''stone-cold lunacy''.]]
* [[spoiler: BrotherSisterIncest: This may have been the case, though it's not confirmed. After you confront and kill Calixto at the end of the quest, you can loot the key to his personal trunk off his body, enter his house/museum, and go upstairs to unlock said trunk. Inside is his journal, in which he writes as though speaking to his sister, and some of the wording is a little {{squick}}y.]]
* [[spoiler:ChekhovsGunman[=/=]TheDogWasTheMastermind: When you first come upon a murder victim in Windhelm, he'll be one of the witnesses, and the game sets him up as just a random bystander. Turns out, he's a just little more important than that...]]

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The eccentric proprietor of Windhelm's House of Curiosities, where he has an interesting variety of items on display. [[spoiler:And And a very dark secret.]]

secret.

* [[spoiler:AffablyEvil: AffablyEvil: He's pretty friendly for a brutal murderer.]]
murderer.
* [[spoiler:BewareTheNiceOnes: BewareTheNiceOnes: His cheery and eccentric demeanour masks a core of ''stone-cold lunacy''.]]
lunacy''.
* [[spoiler: BrotherSisterIncest: This may have been the case, though it's not confirmed. After you confront and kill Calixto at the end of the quest, you can loot the key to his personal trunk off his body, enter his house/museum, and go upstairs to unlock said trunk. Inside is his journal, in which he writes as though speaking to his sister, and some of the wording is a little {{squick}}y.]]
{{squick}}y.
* [[spoiler:ChekhovsGunman[=/=]TheDogWasTheMastermind: ChekhovsGunman: When you first come upon a murder victim in Windhelm, he'll be one of the witnesses, and the game sets him up as just a random bystander. Turns out, he's a just little more important than that...]]



* [[spoiler:FreudianExcuse: He lost his sister while adventuring, and committed the murders as part of a ritual to resurrect her.]]
* [[spoiler:JackTheRipoff]]

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* [[spoiler:FreudianExcuse: FreudianExcuse: He lost his sister while adventuring, and committed the murders as part of a ritual to resurrect her.]]
* [[spoiler:JackTheRipoff]]
her.
%%* JackTheRipoff



* [[spoiler: ObfuscatingStupidity: His cheerful persona and (according to Wuunferth) ignorance of most of the magical items in his shop are revealed to be a ruse, designed to deflect suspicion off himself]].

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* [[spoiler: ObfuscatingStupidity: His cheerful persona and (according to Wuunferth) ignorance of most of the magical items in his shop are revealed to be a ruse, designed to deflect suspicion off himself]].himself.



* WalkingSpoiler
* [[spoiler: WellIntentionedExtremist: He adored his sister and is desperate to find some artifact or method to bring her back to life. Unfortunately, that's proven a little problematic, leading him and sanity to say [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope goodbye to one another]].]]

to:

* WalkingSpoiler
* [[spoiler:
WellIntentionedExtremist: He adored his sister and is desperate to find some artifact or method to bring her back to life. Unfortunately, that's proven a little problematic, leading him and sanity to say [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope goodbye to one another]].]]
another]].



* AwesomeMcCoolName
* {{Badass}}: Almost everyone in Windhelm, a city of badasses, is wary around of him. It's one of the ways he gets peace and quiet around there.
** BadassBookworm: He's an extremely capable Destruction Wizard, and provides training in that school.
** BadassBoast: Makes one when you meet him.

to:

* AwesomeMcCoolName
AwesomeMcCoolName: The Unliving, despite not being actually unliving, or even a necromancer.
* {{Badass}}: Almost everyone in Windhelm, a city of badasses, is wary around of him. It's one of the ways he gets peace and quiet around there.
**
BadassBookworm: He's an extremely capable Destruction Wizard, and provides training in that school.
** * BadassBeard: The most epic beard of any of the Court Wizards.
*
BadassBoast: Makes one when you meet him.



** BadassBeard: The most epic beard of any of the Court Wizards.



* [[spoiler:AssholeVictim: Torbjorn and Tova are not exactly as innocent as they seem, though there is no way you see this unless you do some other quest unrelated to the Dark Brotherhood. See CorruptCorporateExecutive and FantasticRacism below.]]

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* [[spoiler:AssholeVictim: AssholeVictim: Torbjorn and Tova are not exactly as innocent as they seem, though there is no way you see this unless you do some other quest unrelated to the Dark Brotherhood. See CorruptCorporateExecutive and FantasticRacism below.]]



* [[spoiler:CorruptCorporateExecutive: They paid the Blood Horker pirates to attack traders of the East Empire Trading company.]]

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* [[spoiler:CorruptCorporateExecutive: CorruptCorporateExecutive: They paid the Blood Horker pirates to attack traders of the East Empire Trading company.]]



* [[spoiler:DrivenToSuicide: If Nilsine dies as well, Tova commits suicide in her grief, leaving her husband Torbjorn as the only surviving member.]]

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* [[spoiler:DrivenToSuicide: DrivenToSuicide: If Nilsine dies as well, Tova commits suicide in her grief, leaving her husband Torbjorn as the only surviving member.]]



** PetTheDog: If you bring this up to Torbjorn after helping him ease his wife's grief with an Amulet of Arkay (it's supposed to remind her that their daughter is in a better place), he agrees to drastically increase their pay with no protest - primarily out of respect for you.




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* PetTheDog: If you bring this up to Torbjorn after helping him ease his wife's grief with an Amulet of Arkay (it's supposed to remind her that their daughter is in a better place), he agrees to drastically increase their pay with no protest - primarily out of respect for you.




A retired Nord ship captain that can often be found in Candlehearth Hall. [[spoiler:He was meant to replace Jorlief as Windhelm's steward if the Imperials win the Civil War, but a bug prevented this. Version 1.3.2 of the [[GameMod Unofficial Skyrim Patch]] fixes this.]]

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A retired Nord ship captain that can often be found in Candlehearth Hall. [[spoiler:He He was meant to replace Jorlief as Windhelm's steward if the Imperials win the Civil War, but a bug prevented this. Version 1.3.2 of the [[GameMod Unofficial Skyrim Patch]] fixes this.]]
this.



* DespairEventHorizon: After learning that [[spoiler:the White Phial is broken, and the knowledge to fix it is long gone]].



** DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler:But it's broken, and the knowledge to fix it is long gone]].
** LetThemDieHappy: [[spoiler:Until his assistant manages to do it, with your help, and is able to show it to him seconds before his last breath]].
* {{Jerkass}}: His assistant admits that Nurelion can be rather abrasive. After you show Nurelion [[spoiler:the broken phial]] he [[DudeWheresMyReward only tips you five gold]] for your troubles, which is just insulting. Then again, Nurelion is facing the prospect of dying with his lifelong dream unfulfilled. [[spoiler:His assistant apologizes for his master's manners and gives you a more substantial reward.]]



* {{Jerkass}}: His assistant admits that Nurelion can be rather abrasive. After you show Nurelion [[spoiler:the broken phial]] he [[DudeWheresMyReward only tips you five gold]] for your troubles, which is just insulting. Then again, Nurelion is facing the prospect of dying with his lifelong dream unfulfilled. [[spoiler:His assistant apologizes for his master's manners and gives you a more substantial reward.]]



* LetThemDieHappy: [[spoiler:Until his assistant manages to do it, with your help, and is able to show it to him seconds before his last breath]].



** UnknownRival: But Eorlund never even mentions him.

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** * UnknownRival: But Eorlund never even mentions him.



** HiddenDepths: But should the Imperials win the war, she'll freely admit to still supporting the Stormcloaks and any leader they might have in the future, showing that she cares more about Skyrim's freedom and what Ulfric represented for her than about Ulfric himself.

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** * HiddenDepths: But should the Imperials win the war, she'll freely admit to still supporting the Stormcloaks and any leader they might have in the future, showing that she cares more about Skyrim's freedom and what Ulfric represented for her than about Ulfric himself.



* {{Jerkass}}: And that's the ''nicest'' way to describe him.

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* {{Jerkass}}: And that's the ''nicest'' way to describe him.%%* {{Jerkass}}



An Altmer merchant in the Windhelm marketplace. Some of her dialogue at first appears... less-than-trustworthy, and for good reason once you find out that [[spoiler:she has ties to the Thieves' Guild as well as their rival guild, the Summerset Shadows.]]

* [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Black-Market Dealers Have Standards]]: Trafficking stolen goods is just fine, but stealing from the dead is not.

to:

An Altmer merchant in the Windhelm marketplace. Some of her dialogue at first appears... less-than-trustworthy, and for good reason once you find out that [[spoiler:she she has ties to the Thieves' Guild as well as their rival guild, the Summerset Shadows.]]

Shadows.

* [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Black-Market Dealers Have Standards]]: EvenEvilHasStandards: Trafficking stolen goods is just fine, but stealing from the dead is not.



* MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch[=/=]PetTheDog: You can witness her conversation with Jora, wife of Lortheim; the couple are a Priest and Priestess of Talos. She subtly offers to have them smuggled out of the city if the Thalmor were to strike in some way, and even though they refuse, they are grateful for the consideration.

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* MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch[=/=]PetTheDog: MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch: You can witness her conversation with Jora, wife of Lortheim; the couple are a Priest and Priestess of Talos. She subtly offers to have them smuggled out of the city if the Thalmor were to strike in some way, and even though they refuse, they are grateful for the consideration.



* [[spoiler:SadisticChoice: Either kill him under Hircine's orders and get new armor, or help him kill the other hunters and gain the uncursed Ring of Hircine.]]
** [[spoiler:TakeAThirdOption: Or do both, to exploit a bug to get you both rewards.]]

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* [[spoiler:SadisticChoice: SadisticChoice: Either kill him under Hircine's orders and get new armor, or help him kill the other hunters and gain the uncursed Ring of Hircine.]]
** [[spoiler:TakeAThirdOption:
Hircine.
* TakeAThirdOption:
Or do both, to exploit a bug to get you both rewards.]]



* [[FriendlySniper Friendly Archer]]: First impressions notwithstanding - she threatens to put an arrow in your head when you first meet her, but that's only because most of the people visiting her shack are either trying to rob her or kill her. If you act friendly towards her, she happily teaches you her formidable archery skills, gives you her personal bow when you pass all her tests, and thanks you for keeping her company.

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* [[FriendlySniper Friendly Archer]]: FriendlySniper: First impressions notwithstanding - she threatens to put an arrow in your head when you first meet her, but that's only because most of the people visiting her shack are either trying to rob her or kill her. If you act friendly towards her, she happily teaches you her formidable archery skills, gives you her personal bow when you pass all her tests, and thanks you for keeping her company.
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* ActionGirl

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* ActionGirlActionGirl: Like all female companions, she's a very powerful fighter.



** HandicappedBadass: He's also blind in one eye.

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** * HandicappedBadass: He's also blind in one eye.
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