History Characters / SkyrimCivilWar

25th Sep '16 11:13:01 PM Mhazard
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* FailedASpotCheck: If you sneaked away during the fight, the next time you enter the Labyrinthian, he'll outright forget he's supposed to hunt you down.
25th Sep '16 1:19:15 PM KaminoNeko
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* BerserkButton: Stormcloaks in general; Ulfric, specifically, for killing her husband. Oddly enough, if you do some of her quests she'll make an exception for you, despite you being the reason Ulfric is winning and she is being marginalized. You being Ulfric's blood brother by the war's end also eludes her.

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* BerserkButton: Stormcloaks in general; Ulfric, specifically, for killing her husband. Oddly enough, if you are a Stormcloak, and do some of her quests she'll make an exception for you, despite you being the reason Ulfric is winning and she is being marginalized. You being Ulfric's blood brother by the war's end also eludes her.
29th Aug '16 10:38:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheGloryThatWasRome: The Empire draws heavily from ancient Rome, though not entirely. The Roman aesthetics and naming conventions are common, but they also show aspects of traditional Western medieval fantasy, particularly in the semi-feudal structure of the Empire, with the Empire essentially serving as the central government that all of the various lords and nobles of Tamriel supposedly swear allegiance to. Technology base and culture are more medieval than ancient Roman as well, but the military, weaponry, and armor of the Legions are distinctly Roman in design.
4th Aug '16 9:50:54 PM BNSF1995
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* GutturalGrowler

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* GutturalGrowlerGutturalGrowler: What did you expect from someone voiced by Jim Cummings?
29th Jul '16 3:35:22 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** For a dash of DangerouslyGenreSavvy in those quotes, one of the members of the Companions is Vignar Gray-Mane, who takes Balgruuf's place as Jarl should the Stormcloaks take over. ''He knows where everyone's loyalties lie.''

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*** For a dash of DangerouslyGenreSavvy savvy in those quotes, one of the members of the Companions is Vignar Gray-Mane, who takes Balgruuf's place as Jarl should the Stormcloaks take over. ''He knows where everyone's loyalties lie.''



** Slightly, ''very'' slightly justified in a small case of DangerouslyGenreSavvy, since he expects you to be exhausted from the tough fight with a powerful Dragon Priest and thinks he can just finish you off.



* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: His plan to deal with Malborn? Simply camp outside of Windhelm, wait until Malborn eventually has to leave (as he's got to run out of money sometime), then pursue him and kill him in a quiet place. Amusingly, this same strategy can get him killed should a dragon land outside the city.
* GenreSavvy: He decides to try and blend in to a Khajiit caravan as a way to travel. One reason this isn't DangerouslyGenreSavvy is because he doesn't account for the fact that other Khajiit might take offence to his employers.



* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Sends someone else to get an artifact from a ruins [[spoiler: and defeat a dragon priest]].
11th Jul '16 7:18:23 AM longWriter
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Based on the testimony of certain individuals (one of whom is her own housecarl), her visions take a noticeable strain on her and prevent her from ruling her hold efficiently, but she treats threats to the hold with the seriousness they require. After the Dovahkiin finishes the local investigation, she doesn't just order the problem to be dealt with immediately, but backs you up with a full mob of eager volunteers. [[StopHelpingMe This might do more harm to you than good]], but it's still more help than most Jarls provide you.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Based on the testimony of certain individuals (one of whom is her own housecarl), her visions take a noticeable strain on her and prevent her from ruling her hold efficiently, but she treats threats to the hold with the seriousness they require. After the Dovahkiin finishes the local investigation, she doesn't just order the problem to be dealt with immediately, but backs you up with a full mob of eager volunteers. [[StopHelpingMe [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper This might do more harm to you than good]], but it's still more help than most Jarls provide you.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: If you haven't completed Morthal's special questline, she has the same intelligent response as her Imperial counterpart: to accept your word on the matter and provide you with a mob of ([[StopHelpingMe somewhat problematic]]) supporters.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: If you haven't completed Morthal's special questline, she has the same intelligent response as her Imperial counterpart: to accept your word on the matter and provide you with a mob of ([[StopHelpingMe ([[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper somewhat problematic]]) supporters.
28th Jun '16 2:51:42 PM Vorpale
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** For added irony, the very first weapon you'll pick up if you follow Ralof is an [[AnAxeToGrind axe]], which you'll have to go out of your way not to kill her with.
25th Apr '16 1:49:29 PM Caspoi
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: In-universe, the civil war is precisely about the people of Skyrim being split on what to think of the Empire and the Stormcloaks. Depending who you ask, even in-game, the Stormcloaks are either virtuous freedom fighters who want to protect Skyrim's culture and restore her to glory, or are barbarian upstarts who are out to take over the country and are causing more trouble than their rule would solve, while the Empire is either a crumbling and fading force with no power that has turned its back on its heritage, or they're Skyrim's best hope to fend off the Thalmor and with their defeat rebuild themselves and Skyrim back to the glory days along with the restoration of Talos worship. The only people that ''don't'' get this trope by either the Imperial Army or the Stormcloaks are the Thalmor - you have to look very very deep into the books and lore to get this trope for the Thalmor.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: In-universe, the civil war is precisely about the people of Skyrim being split on what to think of the Empire and the Stormcloaks. Depending who you ask, even in-game, the Stormcloaks are either virtuous freedom fighters who want to protect Skyrim's culture and restore her to glory, or are barbarian upstarts who are out to take over the country and are causing more trouble than their rule would solve, while the Empire is either a crumbling and fading force with no power that has turned its back on its heritage, or they're Skyrim's best hope to fend off the Thalmor and with their defeat rebuild themselves and Skyrim back to the glory days along with the restoration of Talos worship. The only people that ''don't'' get this trope by either the Imperial Army or the Stormcloaks are the Thalmor - you have to look very very deep into the books and lore to get this trope for the Thalmor.them.



An Altmer who claims to be an officer of either the Stormcloaks or the Imperial Legion, depending on which faction you have joined.[[note]]If you have not joined either, he appears as an Imperial.[[/note]] Speaking with him will start quest "Siege on the Dragon Cult."

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An Altmer who claims to be an officer of either the Stormcloaks or the Imperial Legion, depending on which faction you have joined.[[note]]If you have not joined either, he appears as an Imperial.[[/note]] Speaking with him will start quest "Siege on the Dragon Cult."
23rd Apr '16 12:25:24 PM Discar
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: "Hero" being used ''very'' loosely here, but the idea remains; she wanted to make sure Ulfric and his lieutenants were going to be executed, to the point of ordering the death of two InnocentBystanders (Lokir and [[PlayerCharacter the Dragonborn]]), just to be sure. Although it is ultimately UpToThePlayer, that incident incited ''a lot'' of players to join [[LaResistance the Stormcloaks]], as well as making the Empire look like a bunch of bloodthirsty, oppressive invadersin the eyes of newcomers to the Elder Scrolls series. Threads discussing the motivations to join one side over the other will often be littered with ''"I joined the Stormcloaks because the Imperials tried to cut my head off !"''

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: "Hero" being used ''very'' loosely here, but the idea remains; she wanted to make sure Ulfric and his lieutenants were going to be executed, to the point of ordering the death of two InnocentBystanders (Lokir and [[PlayerCharacter the Dragonborn]]), just to be sure. Although it is ultimately UpToThePlayer, up to the player, that incident incited ''a lot'' of players to join [[LaResistance the Stormcloaks]], as well as making the Empire look like a bunch of bloodthirsty, oppressive invadersin invaders in the eyes of newcomers to the Elder Scrolls series. Threads discussing the motivations to join one side over the other will often be littered with ''"I joined the Stormcloaks because the Imperials tried to cut my head off !"''
20th Mar '16 5:35:31 PM ErikModi
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* {{Badass}}: Say what you will about him, but when you set out to capture [[spoiler:Odahviing]], he'll happily raise an axe alongside his housecarl and guards and try to help you take the dragon down.

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* {{Badass}}: Say what you will about him, but when you set out to capture [[spoiler:Odahviing]], he'll happily raise an axe alongside his housecarl and guards and try to help you take the dragon down. Similarly, he'll personally fight to defend himself against Stormcloaks during the siege of Whiterun. He tells his Housecarl Irileth (essentially his most loyal bodyguard) that he will not let his city fall without raising a sword in its defense.
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