History Characters / MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny

21st May '17 9:28:22 AM harotype
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* BoobsAndButtPose: Talia has this pose while showering in episode 30 of the HD Remaster.

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* BoobsAndButtPose: Talia has this pose while showering In a ShowerScene in episode 30 of the HD Remaster.



* {{Foil}}: She is what Murrue Ramius would've become had she chosen [[ToBeLawfulOrGood to be loyal instead of listening to her conscience]]. It comes with an incredible dose of skepticism. And anger. Acknowledged by Talia herself when she expresses the wish for Murrue to [[spoiler:meet her young son, someday]].

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* {{Foil}}: She is what To both Murrue Ramius would've become had she chosen [[ToBeLawfulOrGood to be loyal instead of listening to her conscience]]. It comes and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Natarle Badgiruel]], with an incredible dose of skepticism. And anger.Talia's sharpness and stricter approach contrasting Murrue's original naivete, and her anger and skepticism contrasting Natarle's unquestioning loyalty and unemotionalism, and Murrue's current idealism. [[spoiler: In a CallBack, Talia also ends up trying to take out a non-military boss she can no longer stand, in the end]]. Acknowledged by Talia herself when she expresses the wish for Murrue to [[spoiler:meet her young son, someday]].



* NewOldFlame: To Durandal.
* OldFlameFizzle: With Durandal. due to [[{{Jerkass}} his ever-increasing callousness]] and [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim her responsive disgust]].

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* NewOldFlame: To Durandal.
* OldFlameFizzle: With Durandal.
Durandal. Almost instantly begins turning to an OldFlameFizzle, due to [[{{Jerkass}} his ever-increasing callousness]] callousness and [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim her responsive disgust]].disgust.
12th May '17 12:30:41 PM Triscon42
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* BrokenBase: In-universe example. Athrun's a controversial figure in his (former) home country, wildly regarded as one of the best pilots ZAFT ever produced, but is also technically a traitor.
22nd Apr '17 8:18:48 PM harotype
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* ExactWords: Shinn returned Stella to his custody on the sole condition Neo remove her to some safe place far from war. Neo said "...I promise." He didn't say "I'll do it."



* KarmaHoudini: Avoids responsibility for the variety of crap he pulled while leading Phantom Pain. May be because he was NotHimself at the time. Also, Kira and co. don't ''know'' about most of the things Neo did.

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* KarmaHoudini: Avoids responsibility for the variety of crap he pulled while leading Phantom Pain. May be because he was NotHimself at the time. Also, Kira and co. don't ''know'' about most of the things Neo did. Given how loudly and repeatedly he stated who he was working for, it's hard to know if it's more disturbing if they do know or if they don't.
19th Apr '17 10:14:31 PM jetrip
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* BeamSpam: When not underwater, the Abyss usually provides long-range support with its impressive array of beam weapons.
15th Apr '17 1:16:10 AM The08MetroidMan
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* CombiningMecha: [[spoiler:The Infinite Justice, which is comprised of two units - the core mecha, and a glider unit that can serve as either the backpack or a remote-controlled mount]].



* TransformingMecha: The Saviour, which converts into a jet-like mobile armor. Also played with in the Infinite Justice, which splits into two forms - the primary mecha and a glider unit that can be rode upon like a mount or controlled remotely.

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* TransformingMecha: The Saviour, which converts into a jet-like mobile armor. Also played with in the Infinite Justice, which splits into two forms - the primary mecha and a glider unit that can be rode upon like a mount or controlled remotely.
14th Apr '17 6:10:43 PM The08MetroidMan
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* HeroicBSOD: Although whether he's "heroic" by the time it happens, or if he ever truly was, is arguable. [[spoiler:When the ''Infinite Justice'' appears at Orb and Athrun contacts Shinn, the latter completely freezes up in disbelief - to the point that even fighting Kira is forgotten about. When he does finally regain cognition, the only thing he can do is mumble in shock that he'd [[NobodyCouldHaveSurvivedThat he'd already killed him]]]].

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* HeroicBSOD: Although whether he's "heroic" by the time it happens, or if he ever truly was, is arguable. [[spoiler:When the ''Infinite Justice'' appears at Orb and Athrun contacts Shinn, the latter completely freezes up in disbelief - to the point that even fighting Kira is forgotten about. When he does finally regain cognition, the only thing he can do is mumble in shock that he'd [[NobodyCouldHaveSurvivedThat he'd already killed him]]]].Athrun]]]].
14th Apr '17 1:55:32 PM The08MetroidMan
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* TransformingMecha: The Saviour, which converts into a jet-like mobile armor.

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* TheReasonYouSuck: Gives a rather abbreviated but very [[ArmorPiercingQuestion deep-cutting]] one [[spoiler:to Shinn Asuka in the final battle, lambasting him for taking part in what's effectively attempted genocide on Orb purely because of his own selfish inability to let go of his angst and hate. He then further goes on to imply the reason Shinn can't allow his anger to fade is because he himself has become ''someone who lives off of the hate and death of war'', the very same as the people he claimed to despise - that since Shinn doesn't know anything else except pain and how to cause it, he pathologically ''needs'' to think himself on the "right" side so that he can always have a way to justify continuing his hate. To say Shinn doesn't react well to this assessment is a gross understatement, but in doing so only proves Athrun right as his mad desperation to kill him nearly resulted in Shinn killing Luna instead, forcing Athrun to [[TheGlovesComeOff finally go on the offense]] and cut the Destiny down to save Luna]].
* TransformingMecha: The Saviour, which converts into a jet-like mobile armor. Also played with in the Infinite Justice, which splits into two forms - the primary mecha and a glider unit that can be rode upon like a mount or controlled remotely.
14th Apr '17 2:08:05 AM The08MetroidMan
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* HeroicBSOD: [[spoiler:When the ''Infinite Justice'' appears at Orb and Athrun contacts Shinn, the latter completely freezes up in disbelief - to the point that even fighting Kira is forgotten about. When he does finally regain cognition, the only thing he can do is mumble in shock that he'd [[NobodyCouldHaveSurvivedThat he'd already killed him]].

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* HeroicBSOD: Although whether he's "heroic" by the time it happens, or if he ever truly was, is arguable. [[spoiler:When the ''Infinite Justice'' appears at Orb and Athrun contacts Shinn, the latter completely freezes up in disbelief - to the point that even fighting Kira is forgotten about. When he does finally regain cognition, the only thing he can do is mumble in shock that he'd [[NobodyCouldHaveSurvivedThat he'd already killed him]].him]]]].
14th Apr '17 2:05:38 AM The08MetroidMan
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* HeroicBSOD: [[spoiler:When the ''Infinite Justice'' appears at Orb and Athrun contacts Shinn, the latter completely freezes up in disbelief - to the point that even fighting Kira is forgotten about. When he does finally regain cognition, the only thing he can do is mumble in shock that he'd [[NobodyCouldHaveSurvivedThat he'd already killed him]].



* OhCrap: [[spoiler:His reaction to seeing the ''Strike Freedom'' at Orb and recognizing from it's movements that it's the same pilot as the original]].



* RevengeBeforeReason: He's trying to kill Kira for defeating an enemy that he himself was fighting. Rational thought was not involved in this decision. As for his personal war against the EA, as has been pointed out numerous times here, Shinn's actions aren't solving anything.

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* RevengeBeforeReason: He's trying to kill Kira for defeating an enemy that he himself was fighting. Rational thought was not involved in this decision. [[spoiler:Especially considering that even if Shinn could have successfully talked Stella down before Kira killed her, Stella would likely have died anyway from a repeat situation of being drug-starved in ZAFT custody the same as before]]. As for his personal war against the EA, as has been pointed out numerous times here, Shinn's actions aren't solving anything.anything.
* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Not only is this arguably his default state in battle, but is rage is actually the trigger for his SEED mode - though unlike Kira and Athurn, his is more uncontrollable. It doesn't help that he seems to have a convenient reason (be it real or imagined) for him to hate ''everyone'' aside from his own team; he wants payback against the EA for causing the renewed war, he blames Orb and it's policies for causing them to be invaded and result in his family's deaths, he holds the ''Archangel'' and Kira responsible for the attacks on his comrades [[spoiler:and later the death of Stella]], then again [[spoiler:when Athrun joins them after he and Meyrin were nearly killed by Shinn]].


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* OhCrap: Has two of these moments, [[spoiler:both during the final battle. The first is when Athrun's ''Justice'' easily overpowers her ''Impulse'' and slices off it's arm, left reeling as she realizes how badly outmatched she is. The second is when she tries and fails to stop Shinn's berserk rampage, only able to stare back in shock upon realizing he can't tell friend from foe anymore and is about to tear right through her - and it's only because of Athrun saving her that he doesn't]].
13th Apr '17 8:31:44 PM The08MetroidMan
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* PetTheDog: [[spoiler:Played with; while he retains his strict BlackAndWhiteMorality turned BlackAndWhiteInsanity views throughout the series, Shinn did take pity on, if not outright sympathize with, Stella Loussier after finding out she was the Gaia's pilot. Unlike his reaction to Kira killing Stella, Shinn overlooks, if not forgives, the fact that Stella was both the one who killed Heine Westenfluss and prior to that had been part of the attack that sparked the second war in the first place - likely due to her [[TykeBomb never knowing anything else but war]] and thus it not really being her choice, whereas Kira's actions were conscious decisions. When he learned Durandal basically planned to keep Stella for study even if it meant she died, Shinn went ''against'' Durandal by temporarily going rogue to return Stella to the Earth Alliance as they were the only ones who could treat her - which was not only a big shock due to having been considered one of Durandal's favorites, but was arguably the last truly good independent act he did before Durandal and Rey buckled down hard on getting Shinn loyal to them]].

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* PetTheDog: [[spoiler:Played with; while he retains his strict BlackAndWhiteMorality turned BlackAndWhiteInsanity views throughout the series, Shinn did take pity on, if not outright sympathize with, Stella Loussier after finding out she was the Gaia's pilot. Unlike his reaction to Kira killing Stella, Shinn overlooks, if not forgives, the fact that Stella was both the one who killed Heine Westenfluss and prior to that had been part of the attack that sparked the second war in the first place - likely due to her [[TykeBomb never knowing anything else but war]] and thus it not really being her choice, whereas Kira's actions were conscious decisions. When he learned Durandal basically planned to keep Stella for study even if it meant she died, Shinn went ''against'' Durandal by temporarily going rogue to return Stella to the Earth Alliance as they were the only ones who could treat her - which was not only a big shock due to having been considered one of Durandal's favorites, how much he'd respected and admired Durandal, but was arguably the last truly good independent act he did before Durandal and Rey buckled down hard on getting Shinn loyal to them]].
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