History Characters / KingArthur

5th Jun '17 8:12:45 PM MagBas
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** Leads into MarySue territory in some sagas.
30th May '17 11:27:18 AM Chetret
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* VillainousIncest: In the variations where she's aware of her relation to Arthur.
14th May '17 10:21:12 AM Eagal
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* NamesTheSame: In-universe. "Galahad" was Lancelot's birth name.
14th May '17 10:20:15 AM Eagal
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* NamesTheSame: In-universe. "Galahad" was Lancelot's birth name.
14th May '17 10:19:46 AM Eagal
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Historians have debated for generations whether Arthur was truly historical at all. But if we accept that the "original Arthur" was a British leader who temporarily stopped the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain, he has been [[MemeticBadass greatly transformed and magnified]] into the [[TheGoodKing Arthur]] [[TheChosenOne of legend]].

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Historians have debated for generations whether Arthur was truly historical at all. But if we accept that the "original Arthur" was a British leader who temporarily stopped the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain, he has been [[MemeticBadass greatly transformed and magnified]] magnified into the [[TheGoodKing Arthur]] [[TheChosenOne of legend]].



* MemeticBadass: Before Galahad, before Lancelot, before Gawain, Arthur was this to the mythos that now bears his name. The Arthurian Welsh Triads in particular tend to either have Arthur (referred to as [[TheMagnificent the Red Ravager]]) as the third (and thus most powerful example) of each triad, or the fourth, generally establishing that whatever the other three guys were known for, Arthur was it UpToEleven.
** In fact, literally the earliest possible mention of Arthur accepted by most experts can be paraphrased as "This one guy is a Billy MacBadass to end all other badasses, ''but he was not Arthur."''
* MessianicArchetype: See KingInTheMountain.

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* MemeticBadass: Before Galahad, before Lancelot, before Gawain, Arthur was this to the mythos that now bears his name. The Arthurian Welsh Triads in particular tend to either have Arthur (referred to as [[TheMagnificent the Red Ravager]]) as the third (and thus most powerful example) of each triad, or the fourth, generally establishing that whatever the other three guys were known for, Arthur was it UpToEleven.
** In fact, literally the earliest possible mention of Arthur accepted by most experts can be paraphrased as "This one guy is a Billy MacBadass to end all other badasses, ''but he was not Arthur."''
* MessianicArchetype: See KingInTheMountain.
%%* MessianicArchetype



* [[EvilTwin Evil Identical Half-Sister]]: On the same night Leodegrance fathered Guinevere, he also begat another girl on the wife of his seneschal. This "False Guinevere" was born on the same day, looked exactly like her half-sister and even had the same name (Leodegrance had strong genes, but it looks like he wasn't very imaginative). She managed to trick Arthur into thinking the was the real deal, and tried to have Guinevere mutilated and banished (with Lancelot's help, she escaped). "False Guinevere" kept the charade up for ''years'' until the Pope himself stepped in and demanded Arthur take the real Guinevere back. He refused, and the Pope interdicted Britain for twenty-one months. After ten, "False Guinevere" had a stroke, lost every sense but sight and hearing, then began to rot alive, until she finally confessed and perished.

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* [[EvilTwin Evil Identical Half-Sister]]: EvilTwin: Well, identical half-sister. On the same night Leodegrance fathered Guinevere, he also begat another girl on the wife of his seneschal. This "False Guinevere" was born on the same day, looked exactly like her half-sister and even had the same name (Leodegrance had strong genes, but it looks like he wasn't very imaginative). She managed to trick Arthur into thinking the was the real deal, and tried to have Guinevere mutilated and banished (with Lancelot's help, she escaped). "False Guinevere" kept the charade up for ''years'' until the Pope himself stepped in and demanded Arthur take the real Guinevere back. He refused, and the Pope interdicted Britain for twenty-one months. After ten, "False Guinevere" had a stroke, lost every sense but sight and hearing, then began to rot alive, until she finally confessed and perished.



* WorldsMostBeautifulWoman
* YourCheatingHeart[=/=]FatalFlaw: Her affair with Lancelot is usually kind of a "bad move" for the round table's morale.

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* %%* WorldsMostBeautifulWoman
* YourCheatingHeart[=/=]FatalFlaw: YourCheatingHeart: Her affair with Lancelot is usually kind of a "bad move" for the round table's morale.



* [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Spell My Name With A U]]: Sometimes spelled "Launcelot".

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* [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Spell My Name With A U]]: SpellMyNameWithAnS:: Sometimes spelled "Launcelot".



* AwesomeMcCoolName: His Welsh counterpart's name Gwalchmai (Gwalchmei) is usually interpreted as "Hawk of May" or "Hawk of the Plain".



** AwesomeMcCoolName: His Welsh counterpart's name Gwalchmai (Gwalchmei) is usually interpreted as "Hawk of May" or "Hawk of the Plain".
* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Brothers]]: The cause of his feud with Lancelot that brings down the Round Table.

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** AwesomeMcCoolName: His Welsh counterpart's name Gwalchmai (Gwalchmei) is usually interpreted as "Hawk of May" or "Hawk of the Plain".
* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Brothers]]: YouKilledMyFather: The cause of his feud with Lancelot that brings down the Round Table.



** AdaptationalVillainy: It seems he only starts being depicted a villain in the Vulgate and later tales.

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** * AdaptationalVillainy: It seems he only starts being depicted a villain in the Vulgate and later tales.



* [[LukeIAmYourFather Gawain, I Am Your Brother]]

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* [[LukeIAmYourFather Gawain, I Am Your Brother]]LukeIAmYourFather: He's Gawain's brother.



* BerserkButton: Do not ever, ever be stupid enough to hit an unarmed person (no matter their station) in front of him. He WILL beat you into the ground. Kay learned this the hard way.



* CoolSword / BlessedWithSuck: In one set of stories gets a sword that can cut through anything and will never break... except in the toughest battle of his life.

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* CoolSword / BlessedWithSuck: CoolSword: In one set of stories gets a sword that can cut through anything and will never break... [[BlessedWithSuck except in the toughest battle of his life.life]].



* TheChosenOne: For the Grail quest.



* TheChosenOne: For the Grail quest.



* CoolSword[=/=]MasterSwordsman: In the Welsh tales, no one can heal wounds dealt by Kay's sword, either because the sword is magic or the patient is too dead.

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* CoolSword[=/=]MasterSwordsman: CoolSword: In the Welsh tales, no one can heal wounds dealt by Kay's sword, either because the sword is magic or the patient is too dead.



* TheQuest: Took over Pellinore's hunt of the Questing Beast.



* TheQuest: Took over Pellinore's hunt of the Questing Beast.



* [[YouKilledMyFather You Beat Up My Cousin]]: To Esclados.

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* [[YouKilledMyFather You Beat Up My Cousin]]: To Esclados.YouKilledMyFather: Esclados beat up his cousin. He was not happy about that.



* RevengeBeforeReason: As mentioned above.

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* RevengeBeforeReason: As mentioned above.%%* RevengeBeforeReason



* WhatTheHellHero: Gives Gaheris an extremely well-deserved one.

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* %%* WhatTheHellHero: Gives Gaheris an extremely well-deserved one.



* [[CarFu Horse Fu]]: Liked to ride over unhorsed knights, and actually ran over Gawain ''twenty times'' in an effort to kill him.

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* [[CarFu CarFu: Rather, Horse Fu]]: Fu. Liked to ride over unhorsed knights, and actually ran over Gawain ''twenty times'' in an effort to kill him.



* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Cousin]]: Why he tried to poison Gawain, though envy may have played a part as well.

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* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Cousin]]: Why YouKilledMyFather: Gawain killed his cousin, which is why he tried to poison Gawain, though envy may have played a part as well.



* [[OutWithABang Out Shortly After A Bang]]: Her son Gaheris, incensed at seeing her in bed with the son of Pellinore (who killed Lot, the Orkney brothers' father), lopped her head off.

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* [[OutWithABang Out Shortly After A Bang]]: NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: In the older Welsh material, Arthur's sister is named Gwyar, which means "bloodshed".
* OutWithABang:
Her son Gaheris, incensed at seeing her in bed with the son of Pellinore (who killed Lot, the Orkney brothers' father), lopped her head off.



** NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: In the older Welsh material, Arthur's sister is named Gwyar, which means "bloodshed".



* [[EvilSorcerer Evil Sorceress]][=/=]WickedWitch: Depending on the version she can lean more towards one or the other stereotype.

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* %%* [[EvilSorcerer Evil Sorceress]][=/=]WickedWitch: Depending on the version she can lean more towards one or the other stereotype.Sorceress]]



%%* WickedWitch



* MerlinAndNimue: TropeNamer.

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* MerlinAndNimue: TropeNamer.Merlin's affair with his student Nimue is the TropeNamer, obviously.



* StarCrossedLovers: See Tristan's entry
* TogetherInDeath: See Tristan.

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* StarCrossedLovers: See Tristan's entry
* TogetherInDeath: See Tristan.
%%* StarCrossedLovers
%%* TogetherInDeath



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast / AwesomeMccoolname: ''Pendragon'' is a Welsh epithet (sometimes treated as a surname or dynastic name by later authors) which translates to "Chief Dragon" in English, "dragon" probably being a figurative term for warrior. "Uther" itself may come from a Welsh word meaning "awesome" and/or "horrible/terrible" (in the original sense of "fearsome" rather than "bad").

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast / AwesomeMccoolname: NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: ''Pendragon'' is a Welsh epithet (sometimes treated as a surname or dynastic name by later authors) which translates to "Chief Dragon" in English, "dragon" probably being a figurative term for warrior. "Uther" itself may come from a Welsh word meaning "awesome" and/or "horrible/terrible" (in the original sense of "fearsome" rather than "bad").



* [[EvilUncle Evil Brother-in-law]]: Husband of Arthur's sister Morgause.



* Myth/CelticMythology: He is a deity from Welsh Celtic legends who occasionally makes appearance in Welsh Arthurian works.

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* Myth/CelticMythology: GodWasMyCopilot: He is a deity from [[Myth/CelticMythology Welsh Celtic legends legends]] who occasionally makes appearance in Welsh Arthurian works.



* SiblingTeam

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* %%* SiblingTeam
14th May '17 10:10:14 AM Eagal
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* ValuesDissonance: While par for the course with any old legend, there is one particular one that changes tied to the portrayals of quests and combat prowess: in the old Welsh legends, adventures and quests are group activities (Arthor himself is almost never without his PowerTrio of himself, Cai, and Bedwyr) and there is [[CombatPragmatist nothing wrong with ganging up on badguys]], while the later Romance takes almost exclusively focus on single warrior adventures that are stuffed to the gills with jousting and even the villains tend to follow MookChivalry.
14th May '17 10:09:57 AM Eagal
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* InMyLanguageThatSoundsLike / UnfortunateNames: How "Myrddin" became "Merlin." When the French started adapting the old Celtic legends they noticed that the obvious Latinized form of Myrddin, Merdinus, looked an awful lot like the French word "Merde."[[note]]Shit[[/note]] Thus making Merlin an early example of a CleanDubName.

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* InMyLanguageThatSoundsLike / UnfortunateNames: InMyLanguageThatSoundsLike: How "Myrddin" became "Merlin." When the French started adapting the old Celtic legends they noticed that the obvious Latinized form of Myrddin, Merdinus, looked an awful lot like the French word "Merde."[[note]]Shit[[/note]] Thus making Merlin an early example of a CleanDubName.



* MerlinAndNimue: TropeNamer.

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* MerlinAndNimue: TropeNamer.Merlin's affair with his student Nimue is the TropeNamer, obviously.



* TheTrickster [=/=] TricksterMentor: Sometimes.

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* TheTrickster [=/=] TricksterMentor: Sometimes.%%* TricksterMentor
14th May '17 10:06:31 AM Eagal
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** The early Arthurian legends completely lack that whole [[MoralEventHorizon 'drowning all the Mayday babies]] to kill your [[BrotherSisterIncest incestuously]] conceived [[YourCheatingHeart bastard son']] element, and while the Welsh do give him illegitimate sons, so do the French, and at least in the case of Arthur the Little, [[ChildByRape sons by force.]] He's also more of a warrior in the old myths, doing his own grunt work half the time, and instead of being king because of birth he's king because [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority he's the only man who can stall the Saxon invasion.]]

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** The early Arthurian legends completely lack that whole [[MoralEventHorizon 'drowning all the Mayday babies]] babies to kill your [[BrotherSisterIncest incestuously]] conceived [[YourCheatingHeart bastard son']] element, and while the Welsh do give him illegitimate sons, so do the French, and at least in the case of Arthur the Little, [[ChildByRape sons by force.]] He's also more of a warrior in the old myths, doing his own grunt work half the time, and instead of being king because of birth he's king because [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority he's the only man who can stall the Saxon invasion.]]
27th Mar '17 7:28:49 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* GrayEyes: according to Sir Thomas Malory's ''Literature/LeMorteDarthur''.

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* GrayEyes: according According to Sir Thomas Malory's ''Literature/LeMorteDarthur''.
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* NomDeMom: His Welsh counterpart Gwalchmai ''ap Gwyar'', "son of Gwyar". Gwyar appears to be his mother instead of father, [[{{Patronymic}} as was usual]], since she appears as Arthur's sister in genealogies. Some Welsh renditions of later Arthurian accounts put her name in place of ''Anna'' (better known as Morgause) and Gwalchmai instead of Gawain. Nothing is known of Gwalchmai's father, outside those aforementioned renditions that copy-paste and translate Gawain's father Lot as ''Lleu''.
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