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9th May '18 2:11:10 PM k410ren
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* UnexpectedSuccessor: By all outward appearances he would seem to be the absolute last person destined to inherit the mantle of Lord Commander. But after Thorne's betrayal, the death of Pyp, Grenn and Aemon, and Sam's departure for the Citadel, Edd is literally the only person left in the Watch that Jon not just trusts to be his successor -- but trusts ''period''.

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* UnexpectedSuccessor: By all outward appearances he would seem to be the absolute last person destined to inherit the mantle of Lord Commander. But after Thorne's betrayal, the death deaths of Pyp, Grenn and Aemon, and Sam's departure for the Citadel, Edd is literally the only person left in the Watch that Jon not just trusts to be his successor -- but trusts ''period''.



* CompositeCharacter: Takes over the place of some of the Garths (insisting in calling Craster a bastard) and Dirk (killing Craster and being a ranger instead of a steward), with the name of Clubfoot Karl. His background, however, is original.

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* CompositeCharacter: Takes over the place of some of the Garths (insisting in calling Craster a bastard) and Dirk (killing Craster and being a ranger instead of a steward), with the name of Clubfoot Karl.Karl, and the plan to become the next Craster. His background, however, is original.



* DiscOneFinalBoss: For the Nightís Watch plotline in Season 4 before they face Mance Rayderís wildling army in the Battle of Castle Black. Fittingly, his death marks the halfway point for the season.



* {{Jerkass}}: We don't see much of his personality aside from his mutinous side, but when we revisit him in Season 4, it's clear just how much of a jerk he is.

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* {{Jerkass}}: We At first we don't see much of his personality aside from his mutinous side, but when we revisit him in Season 4, it's clear just how much of a jerk he is.
28th Feb '18 7:52:53 AM KnightMareMoon
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* StupidEvil: Thorne's mutiny against Jon was completely and utterly stupid. The only reason he did it was because of his hatred against the wildlings. After that, he stupidly forgets to prepare in case the wildlings come back, which they do. His mutiny only results in him being declared a traitor, arrested along with his fellow mutineers, and finally hanged by a resurrected Jon Snow. Thorne was definitely not one of the smartest men in the Night's Watch.

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* StupidEvil: Thorne's mutiny against Jon was completely and utterly stupid. The only reason he did it was because of his hatred against the wildlings. wildlings- if he really hated the Wildlings that much, he should never have let them through the Wall to begin with, which would get rid of both them and Jon at the same time (until they came back as wights). After that, he stupidly forgets to prepare in case the wildlings come back, which they do.do (again, killing Jon is pointless if thousands of people loyal to him are ''already through the Wall''). His mutiny only results in him being declared a traitor, arrested along with his fellow mutineers, and finally hanged by a resurrected Jon Snow. Thorne was definitely not one of the smartest men in the Night's Watch.
12th Feb '18 9:47:10 PM cherrychels
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* UnexpectedSuccessor: By all outward appearances he would seem to be the absolute last person destined to inherit the mantle of Lord Commander. But after Thorne's betrayal, Pyp, Grenn and Aemon's deaths, and Sam leaving for the Citadel, he is literally the only person left in the Watch that Jon not just trusts to be his successor -- but trusts ''period''.

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* UnexpectedSuccessor: By all outward appearances he would seem to be the absolute last person destined to inherit the mantle of Lord Commander. But after Thorne's betrayal, the death of Pyp, Grenn and Aemon's deaths, Aemon, and Sam leaving Sam's departure for the Citadel, he Edd is literally the only person left in the Watch that Jon not just trusts to be his successor -- but trusts ''period''.



Maester serving as a member of the Night's Watch. Extremely old, blind, and awesome. When most of the Night's Watch's commanding officers get killed off in the expedition beyond the Wall, he steps up to help lead the remaining garrison, while supporting Alliser Thorne's position as Acting Lord Commander until a new election can be held (a maester can't be a Lord Commander).

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Maester serving as a member of the Night's Watch. Extremely old, blind, and awesome. When most of the Night's Watch's commanding officers get killed off in the expedition beyond the Wall, he Maester Aemon steps up to help lead the remaining garrison, while supporting Alliser Thorne's position as Acting Lord Commander until a new election can be held (a maester can't be a Lord Commander).



The Master-at-Arms and later First Ranger of Castle Black, tasked with the training of the new recruits. Also formally Acting Lord Commander in Mormont's absence and after his death, but he really shares power with Maester Aemon. Leads the defense of Castle Black against Mance Rayder's wildling horde.

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The Master-at-Arms and later First Ranger of Castle Black, Black. Thorne is tasked with the training of the new recruits. Also He is also formally Acting Lord Commander in Mormont's absence and after his Mormont's death, but he really shares power with both Thorne and Maester Aemon. Leads Aemon hold power before a new Lord Commander is elected. He leads the defense of Castle Black against Mance Rayder's wildling horde.



* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: In the books, Thorne is not present at Castle Black when a faction of the Night's Watch mutiny against Jon. In the books, the mutiny occurs shortly after Jon receives a threatening letter from Ramsay Bolton, in which Ramsay makes demands and threatens to march against the Watch, and Jon announces he is going to ride south and confront Ramsay at Winterfell, breaking the Watch's neutrality. In the show, Thorne mutinies because he feels Jon betrayed the Watch's principals by letting the wildlings south of the Wall... when Thorne had previously opened the gate to allow Jon to bring the wildlings through the Wall with him. Thorne could have easily just not let Jon or the wildlings in. Alliser's last words imply he was going by HonorBeforeReason logic, as he felt compelled to follow whatever command his Lord Commander gave to him... it just so happened that Jon Snow never explicitly said, "Don't stab me." Also, the wildlings who were already at the Wall after Stannis' army defeated them would doubtless have been released at that point and would have settled in the Gift. They would have heard sooner or later that the 50 men at Castle Black had not let their brethren in, and the Night's Watch would have ended up having to deal with angry wildlings anyway.

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* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: In Regarding Thorne's actions leading up to the books, Thorne is not present at Castle Black when a faction of the Night's Watch mutiny against Jon. mutiny. In the books, the mutiny (for Thorne was not present for as he had been given a mission away from Castle Black) occurs shortly after Jon receives a threatening letter from Ramsay Bolton, in which Ramsay makes demands and threatens to march against the Watch, and Jon announces he is going to ride south and confront Ramsay at Winterfell, breaking the Watch's neutrality. In the show, Thorne mutinies because he feels Jon betrayed the Watch's principals by letting the wildlings south of the Wall... when Thorne had previously opened the gate to allow Jon to bring the wildlings through the Wall with him. Thorne could have easily just not let Jon or the wildlings in. Alliser's last words imply he was going by HonorBeforeReason logic, as he felt compelled to follow whatever command his Lord Commander gave to him... it just so happened that Jon Snow never explicitly said, "Don't stab me." Also, the wildlings who were already at the Wall after Stannis' army defeated them would doubtless have been released at that point and would have settled in the Gift. They would have heard sooner or later that the 50 men at Castle Black had not let their brethren in, and the Night's Watch would have ended up having to deal with angry wildlings anyway.
12th Feb '18 9:30:53 PM cherrychels
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* ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: While the Night's Watch used to be regarded as a noble calling by the whole of Westeros in which the best of the best joined to defend the Wall against the Night King's army of the dead, it has gradually fallen into disrepair since the evil the Wall was built to defend against was believed to be long gone. Especially in the recent decades, in which only few nobles and noble-born bastard sons join the Night's Watch voluntarily. While still seen as a noble calling in the North, many Watch members now were once criminals, disgraced nobles, or ex-knights who fought on the side of the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion who were either exiled or chose to serve, rather than be jailed or executed. This fills the ranks with haphazard members prone to [[TheMutiny mutinies]], a risk which is [[RealityEnsues not dispelled]] by taking and oath of honor.

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* ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: While the Night's Watch used to be regarded as a noble calling by the whole of Westeros in which the best of the best joined to defend the Wall against the Night King's army of the dead, it has gradually fallen into disrepair since the evil the Wall was built to defend against was is believed to be long gone. Especially in As a result, the Watch lost support from many realms and, especially in recent decades, in which only few a handful of nobles and noble-born bastard sons now join the Night's Watch voluntarily. While voluntarily for the sake of honor and duty -- primarily from the North, the only realm in which the Watch is still seen as a noble calling in the North, calling. These days, many Watch members now were once criminals, disgraced nobles, or ex-knights who fought on the side of the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion who were either exiled or chose to serve, rather than be jailed or executed. This fills the ranks with haphazard members prone to [[TheMutiny mutinies]], a risk which is [[RealityEnsues not dispelled]] by taking and oath of honor.



* GondorCallsForAid: The Watch calls for help in the Season 3 finale. Only Stannis Baratheon answered. Likewise, Jon Snow as Lord Commander kept asking for men and supplies from Northern Lords throughout Season 5, even writing a letter to Roose Bolton, putting aside his feelings for revenge in the service of duty. The moment before his assassination, Jon Snow was in fact reading many rejection letters from all the Lords he had written to. This makes Smalljon Umber's complaints about the wildlings settled on the Gift highly hypocritical since he and his house had not moved a muscle to help the Watch when they were fighting wildlings and White Walkers.

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* GondorCallsForAid: The Watch calls for help in the Season 3 finale. Only Stannis Baratheon answered. Likewise, Jon Snow as Lord Commander kept asking for men and supplies from Northern Lords throughout Season 5, even writing a letter to Roose Bolton, putting aside his feelings for revenge in the service of duty. The moment before his assassination, Jon Snow was was, in fact fact, reading many rejection letters from all the Lords he had written to. This makes Smalljon Umber's complaints about the wildlings settled on the Gift highly hypocritical since he and his house had not moved a muscle to help the Watch when they were fighting wildlings and White Walkers.



* BadassInCharge: Leads the defense against the Wildings during 'Watchers on the Wall' and he's a most capable commander and warrior who kills at least half a dozen wildlings at the Battle of Castle Black, and despite being bested, he gives the nigh-unstoppable Tormund Giantsbane a very worthy opponent. You don't become a Master-At-Arms by being a wuss.

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* BadassInCharge: Leads the defense against the Wildings wildings during 'Watchers on the Wall' and he's a most capable commander and warrior who kills at least half a dozen wildlings at the Battle of Castle Black, and despite being bested, he gives the nigh-unstoppable Tormund Giantsbane a very worthy opponent. You don't become a Master-At-Arms by being a wuss.



* DecoyProtagonist: Of a sort. He, along with Waymar Royce and Gared, are the first people seen in the show. However, all of this is ended when his head is lopped off not 10 minutes into the pilot. [[labelnote:From the books...]]Will's POV is the prologue for the first book, ''A Game of Thrones''. [[/labelnote]]

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* DecoyProtagonist: Of a sort. He, along with Waymar Royce and Gared, are the first people seen in the show. However, all of this is ended when his head is lopped off not 10 minutes into the pilot. [[labelnote:From the books...]]Will's ]]Likewise, Will's POV is the prologue for the first book, ''A Game of Thrones''.Thrones'', and he is executed in the first chapter following the prologue. [[/labelnote]]
12th Feb '18 9:21:13 PM cherrychels
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* ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: Especially in the latest decades, in which only few nobles and noble-born bastard sons join the Night's Watch on their own choice. While still seen as a noble calling in the North, many Watch members now were once criminals, disgraced nobles, or ex-knights who fought on the side of the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion who were either exiled or chose to serve, rather than be jailed or executed. This fills the ranks with haphazard members prone to [[TheMutiny mutinies]], a risk which is [[RealityEnsues not dispelled]] by taking and oath of honor.

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* ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: While the Night's Watch used to be regarded as a noble calling by the whole of Westeros in which the best of the best joined to defend the Wall against the Night King's army of the dead, it has gradually fallen into disrepair since the evil the Wall was built to defend against was believed to be long gone. Especially in the latest recent decades, in which only few nobles and noble-born bastard sons join the Night's Watch on their own choice.voluntarily. While still seen as a noble calling in the North, many Watch members now were once criminals, disgraced nobles, or ex-knights who fought on the side of the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion who were either exiled or chose to serve, rather than be jailed or executed. This fills the ranks with haphazard members prone to [[TheMutiny mutinies]], a risk which is [[RealityEnsues not dispelled]] by taking and oath of honor.



* DueToTheDead: Averted. The Night's Watch traditionally burn their dead on a pyre, and Mormont would have earned a great and respectful speech. Instead Karl turned his skull into a cup, which he drinks from while mocking his commander's memory.[[labelnote: from the books]] This is doubly appalling to readers of ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'' since the Old Bear received a relatively peaceful death in Samwell Tarly's arms rather than having his Skull become a Tankard, even asking Sam to deliver a message to Jorah to take the black and redeem his honor. No chance of that happening here sadly.[[/labelnote]]

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* DueToTheDead: Averted. The Night's Watch traditionally burn their dead on a pyre, and Mormont would have earned a great and respectful speech. Instead Instead, Karl turned his turns Mormont's skull into a cup, which he drinks from while mocking his commander's murdered Lord Commander's memory.[[labelnote: from the books]] This The treatment of Mormont's death between the books and show is doubly appalling to readers of different. In ''Literature/AStormOfSwords'' since the Old Bear received Mormont still is killed in a mutiny, but receives a relatively peaceful death in Samwell Tarly's arms rather than having his Skull skull become a Tankard, even tankard. Mormont gives Sam his DyingWish, asking Sam to deliver a message to tell Jorah to take the black and so he can redeem his honor. No honor, and to tell Jorah that he forgives him. Mormont doesn't get a chance of that happening here sadly.to tell Sam his dying wish in the show.[[/labelnote]]



* FamedInStory: A renowned warrior in life and a well remembered figure after his death.

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* FamedInStory: A renowned warrior in life and a well remembered well-remembered figure after his death.



* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: In the books, the mutiny (which Thorne was not part of) occurred after Jon receives a taunting letter from Ramsay Bolton that he was marching against the Watch, and Jon announces he was going to ride south to fight him at Winterfell, breaking his oath of neutrality. In the show, Thorne mutinies because he feels Jon betrayed the Watch's principals by letting the wildlings south of the Wall... when Thorne had previously opened the gate to allow Jon to bring the wildlings through the Wall with him. Thorne could have easily just not let Jon or the wildlings in. Alliser's last words implies he was going by HonorBeforeReason logic, as he felt compelled to follow whatever command his Lord Commander gave to him... it just so happened that Jon Snow never explicitly said 'Don't stab me'. Also, the wildlings who were already at the Wall after Stannis' army defeated them would doubtless have been released at that point and would have settled in the Gift. They would have heard sooner or later that the 50 men at Castle Black had not let their brethren in, and the Night's Watch would have ended up having to deal with angry wildlings anyway.

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* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: In the books, Thorne is not present at Castle Black when a faction of the Night's Watch mutiny against Jon. In the books, the mutiny (which Thorne was not part of) occurred occurs shortly after Jon receives a taunting threatening letter from Ramsay Bolton that he was marching Bolton, in which Ramsay makes demands and threatens to march against the Watch, and Jon announces he was is going to ride south to fight him and confront Ramsay at Winterfell, breaking his oath of the Watch's neutrality. In the show, Thorne mutinies because he feels Jon betrayed the Watch's principals by letting the wildlings south of the Wall... when Thorne had previously opened the gate to allow Jon to bring the wildlings through the Wall with him. Thorne could have easily just not let Jon or the wildlings in. Alliser's last words implies imply he was going by HonorBeforeReason logic, as he felt compelled to follow whatever command his Lord Commander gave to him... it just so happened that Jon Snow never explicitly said 'Don't said, "Don't stab me'. me." Also, the wildlings who were already at the Wall after Stannis' army defeated them would doubtless have been released at that point and would have settled in the Gift. They would have heard sooner or later that the 50 men at Castle Black had not let their brethren in, and the Night's Watch would have ended up having to deal with angry wildlings anyway.



* ConflictingLoyalty: He is supposed to obey his Lord Commander but when his Lord Commander starts doing thing that, in Thorne's mind, would destroy the Watch he starts doubting as he also made an oath to give his life to the Watch. After a while he decides to go with his guts and kill Jon Snow in order to save the Watch.

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* ConflictingLoyalty: He is supposed to obey his Lord Commander but when his Lord Commander starts doing thing making decisions that, in Thorne's mind, would destroy the Watch he Watch, Thorne starts doubting as he also made an oath to give his life to the Watch. After a while while, he decides to go with his guts and kill kills Jon Snow in order to save the Watch.



* InformedAbility: Boasts to be [[TheArcher the best archer]] in his hamlet. True either way, since [[SoleSurvivor everyone else in his hamlet is dead]] now, and his hamlet is small enough that it doesn't even have a name. Nevertheless, he proves he is a competent archer when he {{Revenge fatally shoots Ygritte}} in "The Watchers on the Wall".

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* InformedAbility: Boasts to be [[TheArcher the best archer]] in his hamlet. True either way, since [[SoleSurvivor everyone else in his hamlet is dead]] now, and his hamlet is small enough that it doesn't even have a name. Nevertheless, he proves he is a competent archer when he {{Revenge [[{{Revenge}} fatally shoots Ygritte}} Ygritte]] in "The Watchers on the Wall".
12th Feb '18 8:56:19 PM cherrychels
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* ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: Specially in the latest decades, in which only few nobles and noble-born bastard sons join the Night's Watch on their own choice. While still seen as a noble calling in the North, many Watch members now were once criminals, disgraced nobles, or ex-knights who fought on the side of the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion who were either exiled or chose to serve, rather than be jailed or executed. This fills the ranks with haphazard members prone to [[TheMutiny mutinies]], a risk which is [[RealityEnsues not dispelled]] by taking and oath of honor.
* ArchEnemy: The Night's Watch and the Wildlings have been locking horns for generations. Not only that, but the [[HumanoidAbomination White Walkers]] are also regarded as the ancient and true enemies of the Night's Watch.
* BadassDecay: In-universe; they used to be a highly regarded [[TheOrder order]], attractive to the Westerosi elite and capable of operating nineteen border fortifications and castles during their heyday. In the present day, they can hardly man three outposts and noble, quality volunteers are a rarity. Despite this, however, they manage to repel the first wave of Wildlings who attack the Wall.

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* ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: Specially Especially in the latest decades, in which only few nobles and noble-born bastard sons join the Night's Watch on their own choice. While still seen as a noble calling in the North, many Watch members now were once criminals, disgraced nobles, or ex-knights who fought on the side of the Mad King during Robert's Rebellion who were either exiled or chose to serve, rather than be jailed or executed. This fills the ranks with haphazard members prone to [[TheMutiny mutinies]], a risk which is [[RealityEnsues not dispelled]] by taking and oath of honor.
* ArchEnemy: The Night's Watch and the Wildlings wildlings have been locking horns for generations. Not only that, but the [[HumanoidAbomination White Walkers]] are also regarded as the ancient and true enemies of the Night's Watch.
* BadassDecay: In-universe; they used to be a highly regarded [[TheOrder order]], attractive to the Westerosi elite and capable of operating nineteen border fortifications and castles during their heyday. In the present day, they can hardly man three outposts and noble, quality volunteers are a rarity. Despite this, however, they manage to repel the first wave of Wildlings wildlings who attack the Wall.



* FantasticRacism: The men of the watch, as a rule, have a low regard for the Wildlings north of the Wall, and regard them as their main enemy. Even with the appearance of a southward-marching army of supernatural, undead ice-zombies, many simply cannot lay their hatred for the Wildlings aside. This results in mutinies and the deaths of Lord Commanders on ''two'' separate occasions.

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* FantasticRacism: The men of the watch, as a rule, have a low regard for the Wildlings wildlings north of the Wall, and regard them as their main enemy. Even with the appearance of a southward-marching army of supernatural, undead ice-zombies, many simply cannot lay their hatred for the Wildlings wildlings aside. This results in mutinies and the deaths of Lord Commanders on ''two'' separate occasions.



* GondorCallsForAid: The Watch calls for help in the Season 3 finale. Only Stannis Baratheon answered. Likewise, Jon Snow as Lord Commander kept asking for men and supplies from Northern Lords throughout Season 5, even writing a letter to Roose Bolton, putting aside his feelings for revenge in the service of duty. The moment before his assassination, Jon Snow was in fact reading many rejection letters from all the Lords he had written to. This makes Smalljon Umber's complaints about the Wildlings settled on the Gift highly hypocritical since he and his house had not moved a muscle to help the Watch when they were fighting Wildlings and White Walkers.

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* GondorCallsForAid: The Watch calls for help in the Season 3 finale. Only Stannis Baratheon answered. Likewise, Jon Snow as Lord Commander kept asking for men and supplies from Northern Lords throughout Season 5, even writing a letter to Roose Bolton, putting aside his feelings for revenge in the service of duty. The moment before his assassination, Jon Snow was in fact reading many rejection letters from all the Lords he had written to. This makes Smalljon Umber's complaints about the Wildlings wildlings settled on the Gift highly hypocritical since he and his house had not moved a muscle to help the Watch when they were fighting Wildlings wildlings and White Walkers.



* InSeriesNickname: The crows, used derogatorily by the Wildlings because of their black uniforms.

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* InSeriesNickname: The crows, used derogatorily by the Wildlings wildlings because of their black uniforms.



** Since the Oath specifies "until death," [[RevivalLoophole it never considers the possibility of what happens when a brother dies and is resurrected]]. When the traitorous members of the Watch kill him and he is brought back, Jon Snow determines his "watch is over" and leaves to reclaim Winterfell for the Stark family.

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** Since the Oath oath specifies "until death," [[RevivalLoophole it never considers the possibility of what happens when a brother dies and is resurrected]]. When the traitorous members of the Watch kill him murder Jon Snow and he is brought back, Jon Snow feels he cannot stay in the Watch after this and determines his "watch is over" and leaves to reclaim Winterfell for the Stark family.over."



* UngratefulBastard: How the Night's Watch regard the rest of Westeros, they are protecting them from Wildling invasions and are the ones who are standing on guard in-case the White Walkers return, but everyone thinks they are a joke and use them as a penal colony.

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* UngratefulBastard: How the Night's Watch regard the rest of Westeros, they are protecting them from Wildling wildling invasions and are the ones who are standing on guard in-case the White Walkers return, but everyone thinks they are a joke and use them as a penal colony.



** When Maester Aemon sends his summons at the end of Season 3, Stannis is the only one who responded to their calls and saved the Watch from certain defeat at the hands of Mance Rayder. In most of Season 5, Jon Snow keeps writing letters to other Northern houses for help, and he even writes a request to House Bolton, putting the greater good of the Watch over his hatred for him. For all this effort, House Umber, who didn't move a finger to help the Watch against the Wildlings, sells out Rickon to Ramsay Bolton and cites the Watch legally settling Wildlings on the Gift, which is their land, as justification for his betrayal.
* WindmillCrusader: This becomes their reputation among Westerosis during the present era as many believed that the mystical creatures that they are fighting to be either just myths or things in the past.

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** When Maester Aemon sends his summons at the end of Season 3, Stannis is the only one who responded to their calls and saved the Watch from certain defeat at the hands of Mance Rayder. In most of Season 5, Jon Snow keeps writing letters to other Northern houses for help, and he even writes a request to House Bolton, putting the greater good of the Watch over his hatred for him. For all this effort, House Umber, who didn't move a finger to help the Watch against the Wildlings, wildlings, sells out Rickon to Ramsay Bolton and cites the Watch legally settling Wildlings wildlings on the Gift, which is their land, as justification for his betrayal.
* WindmillCrusader: This becomes their reputation among Westerosis Westerosi during the present era as many believed that the mystical creatures that they are fighting to be either just myths or things in the past.



* SacredHospitality: He takes this ''very'' seriously, which is the main reason why, as much as Craster makes his skin crawl, he tolerates the Wildling's disgusting behavior: he is their ''host'', after all. After the mutineers kill Craster, he even makes a comment that the gods will curse them all for this blasphemous act, shortly before being murdered himself.

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* SacredHospitality: He takes this ''very'' seriously, which is the main reason why, as much as Craster makes his skin crawl, he tolerates the Wildling's Craster's disgusting behavior: he behavior because Craster is their ''host'', after all. After the mutineers kill Craster, he even makes a comment that the gods will curse them all for this blasphemous act, shortly before being murdered himself.



* AdaptationalBadass: In the books he's a steward, with any action he's part of taking place offscreen. The show implies him being a ranger. Of note, he's fought against the Night's Watch mutineers, survived captivity by them and returned with Jon to punish them, took command of the wall during the Wilding attack, and even survived the battle of Hardhome. Ultimately, he becomes acting Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, the idea of which being a joke and a chance to snark in the books.

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* AdaptationalBadass: In the books books, he's a steward, with any action he's part of taking place offscreen. The show implies him being a ranger. Of note, he's fought against the Night's Watch mutineers, survived captivity by them and returned with Jon to punish them, took command of the wall during the Wilding attack, and even survived the battle of Hardhome. Ultimately, he becomes acting Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, the idea of which being a joke and a chance to snark in the books.



* HeroOfAnotherStory: Along with Grenn, Edd had an interesting time off-screen following the mutiny at Craster's Keep. He fights the mutineers, is defeated, imprisoned and tortured, is witness to Karl's rise to leadership and his subsequent atrocities, escapes and travels through Wildling-infected harsh environment to return to Castle Black.

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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Along with Grenn, Edd had an interesting time off-screen following the mutiny at Craster's Keep. He fights the mutineers, is defeated, imprisoned and tortured, is witness to Karl's rise to leadership and his subsequent atrocities, escapes and travels through Wildling-infected wildling lands and harsh environment environments to return to Castle Black.



* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: He drops his uncaring pessimist act on the third blast. He also fights in Mormont's defense after he is attacked, even though his previous scene had Edd joking about the deceased in a fellow Nightswatchman's funeral.
* PetTheDog: After his antagonistic relationship with Sam, when it seems that Gilly was killed in the Wildling attack on Mole's Town he joins Jon, Pyp, and Grenn in comforting him, even noting all the other things she's managed to survive so she might have done it here too.

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: He drops his uncaring pessimist act on the third blast. He also fights in Mormont's defense after he is attacked, even though his previous scene had Edd joking about the deceased in a fellow Nightswatchman's Night's Watchman's funeral.
* PetTheDog: After his antagonistic relationship with Sam, when it seems that Gilly was killed in the Wildling wildling attack on Mole's Town he joins Jon, Pyp, and Grenn in comforting him, even noting all the other things she's managed to survive so she might have done it here too.



* RememberTheNewGuy: He's suddenly a member of the team in Season 2, after never being seen in Season 1. In the book it ''seemed'' less sudden due to there being a narrator who explains who he is when he joins the expedition.

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* RememberTheNewGuy: He's suddenly a member of the team in Season 2, after never being seen in Season 1. In the book books, it ''seemed'' less sudden due to there being a narrator who explains who he is when he joins the expedition.



The Master-at-Arms and later First Ranger of Castle Black, tasked with the training of the new recruits. Also formally Acting Lord Commander in Mormont's absence and after his death, but he really shares power with Maester Aemon. Leads the defense of Castle Black against Mance Rayder's Wildling horde.

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The Master-at-Arms and later First Ranger of Castle Black, tasked with the training of the new recruits. Also formally Acting Lord Commander in Mormont's absence and after his death, but he really shares power with Maester Aemon. Leads the defense of Castle Black against Mance Rayder's Wildling wildling horde.



** While Thorne is still a nasty piece of work and a sadistic bully to boot, he does show more restraint when he becomes Acting Lord Commander. He doesn't outright insult Jon the way Janos Slynt does at the hearing, and mostly just acts coldly toward him while actually listening to him about the Wildlings and White Walkers.
** Most notably, he leads the charge against the Wildlings during Mance's assault on Castle Black and shows himself to be capable of both inspiring the men under his command and fighting alongside them. In the books, he and Slynt don't even arrive to Castle Black until after the attack is over.

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** While Thorne is still a nasty piece of work and a sadistic bully to boot, he does show more restraint when he becomes Acting Lord Commander. He doesn't outright insult Jon the way Janos Slynt does at the hearing, and mostly just acts coldly toward him while actually listening to him about the Wildlings wildlings and White Walkers.
** Most notably, he leads the charge against the Wildlings wildlings during Mance's assault on Castle Black and shows himself to be capable of both inspiring the men under his command and fighting alongside them. In the books, he and Slynt don't even arrive to Castle Black until after the attack is over.



* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: In the books, the mutiny (which Thorne was not part of) occurred because Jon received a taunting letter from Ramsay Bolton that he was marching against the Watch, and announced he was going to ride off to fight him at Winterfell, breaking his oath of neutrality. In the show, Thorne mutinies because he feels Jon betrayed the Watch's principals by letting Wildlings through the Wall... when Thorne had previously allowed Jon to bring them through, and could have easily just not let him in. Alliser's last words implies he was going by HonorBeforeReason logic, as he felt compelled to follow what ever command his Lord Commander gave to him... it just so happened that Jon Snow never explicitly said 'Don't stab me'. Also, the Wildlings that were already at the Wall after Stannis' army defeated them would doubtless have been released at that point and would have settled in the Gift. They would have heard sooner or later that the 50 men at Castle Black had not let their brethren in, and the Night's Watch would have ended up having to deal with angry Wildlings anyway.

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* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: In the books, the mutiny (which Thorne was not part of) occurred because after Jon received receives a taunting letter from Ramsay Bolton that he was marching against the Watch, and announced Jon announces he was going to ride off south to fight him at Winterfell, breaking his oath of neutrality. In the show, Thorne mutinies because he feels Jon betrayed the Watch's principals by letting Wildlings through the wildlings south of the Wall... when Thorne had previously allowed opened the gate to allow Jon to bring them through, and the wildlings through the Wall with him. Thorne could have easily just not let him Jon or the wildlings in. Alliser's last words implies he was going by HonorBeforeReason logic, as he felt compelled to follow what ever whatever command his Lord Commander gave to him... it just so happened that Jon Snow never explicitly said 'Don't stab me'. Also, the Wildlings that wildlings who were already at the Wall after Stannis' army defeated them would doubtless have been released at that point and would have settled in the Gift. They would have heard sooner or later that the 50 men at Castle Black had not let their brethren in, and the Night's Watch would have ended up having to deal with angry Wildlings wildlings anyway.



* AssholeVictim: Given that he was a traitor who murdered his lord commander for letting Wildlings down south and before that a sadistic bully, he more than deserved his hanging at the hands of a resurrected Jon Snow.

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* AssholeVictim: Given that he was a traitor who murdered his lord commander for letting Wildlings wildlings down south and before that that, a sadistic bully, he more than deserved his hanging at the hands of a resurrected can be seen as this when he is executed by Jon Snow.for mutiny.



* BadassInCharge: Leads the defense against the Wildings during 'Watchers on the Wall' and he's a most capable commander and warrior who kills at least half a dozen Wildlings at the Battle of Castle Black, and despite being bested, he gives the nigh-unstoppable Tormund Giantsbane a very worthy opponent. You don't become a Master-At-Arms by being a wuss.

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* BadassInCharge: Leads the defense against the Wildings during 'Watchers on the Wall' and he's a most capable commander and warrior who kills at least half a dozen Wildlings wildlings at the Battle of Castle Black, and despite being bested, he gives the nigh-unstoppable Tormund Giantsbane a very worthy opponent. You don't become a Master-At-Arms by being a wuss.



* TheChainsOfCommanding: As he and Jon face down Mance Rayder's Wildling horde, he opens up about how his refusal to listen to Jon's now clearly prudent advice, which at the time appeared to be purely because of his personal dislike for Jon, was actually because he's constantly facing criticisms of his leadership, and if he let any of it get to him he'd constantly be second-guessing himself, an even worse trait for a leader to have.

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* TheChainsOfCommanding: As he and Jon face down Mance Rayder's Wildling wildling horde, he opens up about how his refusal to listen to Jon's now clearly prudent advice, which at the time appeared to be purely because of his personal dislike for Jon, was actually because he's constantly facing criticisms of his leadership, and if he let any of it get to him he'd constantly be second-guessing himself, an even worse trait for a leader to have.



** Starting in Season 4, Show!Thorne begins to take over the part of Donal Noye, the master smith at Castle Black who is supportive of Jon, while still playing the part of the original Thorne, who is Jon's enemy. This results in show!Thorne still disliking Jon as a person, but [[EnemyMine being sensible enough]] to [[AdaptationalHeroism recognize the knowledge]] Jon gathered beyond the Wall and take the Wildling threat seriously.

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** Starting in Season 4, Show!Thorne begins to take over the part of Donal Noye, the master smith at Castle Black who is supportive of Jon, while still playing the part of the original Thorne, who is Jon's enemy. This results in show!Thorne still disliking Jon as a person, but [[EnemyMine being sensible enough]] to [[AdaptationalHeroism recognize the knowledge]] Jon gathered beyond the Wall and take the Wildling wildling threat seriously.



* DidntThinkThisThrough: Thorne's coup and assassination of Jon Snow ends up crumbling in quick fashion. Not only did Thorne fail to take into account that the Wildlings loyal to Jon greatly outnumbered his troops, but even the majority of his men were conflicted over following him and promptly surrendered once the tides turned.

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Thorne's coup and assassination of Jon Snow ends up crumbling in quick fashion. Not only did Thorne fail to take into account that the Wildlings wildlings loyal to Jon greatly outnumbered his troops, but even the majority of his men were conflicted over following him and promptly surrendered once the tides turned.



-->'''Thorne''': This is not the end. Not for us. Not if you lot do your duty for however long it takes to beat them back. And then you get to go on hating me, and I get to go on wishing your Wildling whore had finished the job.

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-->'''Thorne''': This is not the end. Not for us. Not if you lot do your duty for however long it takes to beat them back. And then you get to go on hating me, and I get to go on wishing your Wildling wildling whore had finished the job.



* FailedASpotCheck: Thorne's coup ends up falling up short due to his failing to take into account that the Wildlings were loyal to Jon Snow. His men, greatly outnumbered, promptly surrender.
* FatalFlaw: Thorne has high arrogance (bordering stupidity) that causes problems for him and others. He refuses to seal the tunnel simply because Jon advised it and he believes the Night's Watch will win because they have for thousands of years. This makes it easier for a giant to get into the tunnel and six brothers die as a result. And later he murders Jon because he let the Wildlings down south. Okay, but he doesn't say how murdering the lord commander will fix the Wildling problem. And he doesn't put a defense in case the Wildlings come back. It costs him dearly.

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* FailedASpotCheck: Thorne's coup ends up falling up short due to his failing failure to take into account that the Wildlings wildlings were loyal to Jon Snow. His men, greatly outnumbered, promptly surrender.
* FatalFlaw: Thorne has high arrogance (bordering stupidity) that causes problems for him and others. He refuses to seal the tunnel simply because Jon advised it and he believes the Night's Watch will win because they have for thousands of years. This makes it easier for a giant to get into the tunnel and six brothers die as a result. And later he murders Jon because he let the Wildlings wildlings down south. Okay, but he doesn't say how murdering the lord commander will fix the Wildling wildling problem. And he doesn't put a defense in case the Wildlings wildlings come back. It costs him dearly.



* GeneralRipper: Simply cannot take the long view on the Wildlings, refusing to acknowledge that 100,000 Wildlings behind the Wall, however bad, is better than 100,000 wights assaulting it.

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* GeneralRipper: Simply cannot take the long view on the Wildlings, wildlings, refusing to acknowledge that 100,000 Wildlings wildlings behind the Wall, however bad, is better than 100,000 wights assaulting it.



* HateSink: His bullying, smug nature makes him one of the more detestable characters in the show. Any sympathy he might have had was destroyed when he betrayed and murdered Jon Snow. It makes his hanging by a resurrected Jon Snow extremely satisfying.

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* HateSink: His bullying, smug nature makes him one of the more detestable unlikeable characters in the show. Any sympathy he might have had was destroyed This becomes worse when he betrayed betrays and murdered murders Jon Snow. It makes his hanging by a resurrected Jon Snow extremely satisfying.



** He has the audacity to call Edd a traitor after the latter brings the Wildlings back to Castle Black and imprisons him. Edd has to point out that Alliser was the one who ''murdered his own Lord Commander''.
** When he's standing at the gallows for his own execution, he refers to the Wildlings as an army of murderers and raiders. He seems to be forgetting that a good portion of the Night's Watch is made up of criminals who were sent there as punishment, including murderers, rapists, and worse.

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** He has the audacity to call Edd a traitor after the latter brings the Wildlings wildlings back to Castle Black and imprisons him. Edd has to point out that Alliser was the one who ''murdered his own Lord Commander''.
** When he's standing at the gallows for his own execution, he refers to the Wildlings wildlings as an army of murderers and raiders. He seems to be forgetting that a good portion of the Night's Watch is made up of criminals who were sent there as punishment, including murderers, rapists, and worse.



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: In Season 4 when he has the heart-to-heart with Jon Snow, and in 5 where he tells him in a sympathetic tone he has a good heart but it will get them all killed. Unfortunately, this is subverted when he thinks killing Jon Snow, who's brought the Wildlings inside, is a good idea.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: In Season 4 when he has the heart-to-heart with Jon Snow, and in 5 where he tells him in a sympathetic tone he has a good heart but it will get them all killed. Unfortunately, this is subverted when he thinks killing Jon Snow, who's brought the Wildlings wildlings inside, is a good idea.



* MyMasterRightOrWrong: Subverted, at first he accepted bitterly Jon's authority and even goes along with letting the Wildlings in despite constantly saying it's a bad idea. Then after a few days he decided that no, this is just wrong and kill Jon and plan on kicking out the Wildlings too.

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* MyMasterRightOrWrong: Subverted, at first he accepted bitterly Jon's authority and even goes along with letting the Wildlings wildlings in despite constantly saying it's a bad idea. Then after a few days days, he decided that no, this is just wrong and kill Jon and plan on kicking out the Wildlings wildlings too.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Thorne takes the Wildling threat seriously and quickly steps up to the plate once they march on Castle Black. Though he is initially skeptical of the scope of the Wildling threat, saying that "you can't get fifty Wildlings together before they try killing each other," he doesn't laugh off the existence of giants as Ser Janos does. He even admits that Jon was right to suggest sealing the tunnel.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Thorne takes the Wildling wildling threat seriously and quickly steps up to the plate once they march on Castle Black. Though he is initially skeptical of the scope of the Wildling wildling threat, saying that "you can't get fifty Wildlings wildlings together before they try killing each other," he doesn't laugh off the existence of giants as Ser Janos does. He even admits that Jon was right to suggest sealing the tunnel.



* SmugSnake: He's introduced as one, but the show presents some HiddenDepths to justify his behavior; he sees most of the recruits as not up to snuff for the Night's Watch, as he himself has been through hell and back while serving. He does have an irrational distaste for Jon, but even then takes Jon's assertions that Mance Rayder has united the Wildlings and is marching on the Wall with an army of 10,000 seriously, after some convincing.

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* SmugSnake: He's introduced as one, but the show presents some HiddenDepths to justify his behavior; he sees most of the recruits as not up to snuff for the Night's Watch, as he himself has been through hell and back while serving. He does have an irrational distaste for Jon, but even then takes Jon's assertions that Mance Rayder has united the Wildlings wildlings and is marching on the Wall with an army of 10,000 seriously, after some convincing.



* TookALevelInKindness: While still not the nicest guy in the world when the Wildling attack is about to happen he goes through this, even admitting to Jon that Jon's advice to seal the tunnels was right and he (Ser Alliser) was wrong. He also becomes a more effective leader to his men. When Jon's heroic acts are listed by Sam (leading his fellow brothers against the mutineers, killing Styr, dealing with Mance Rayder) Thorne simply says he can't argue with his deeds, subtly giving him credit where credit's due. Later, he even admits that Jon is a good man with a good heart. Unfortunately, he slides right back into his old {{Jerkass}} ways in Season 5, ultimately becoming even ''worse'' after he murders Jon.
* StupidEvil: Thorne's mutiny against Jon was completely and utterly stupid. The only reason he did it was because of his hatred against the Wildlings. After that, he stupidly forgets to prepare in case the Wildlings come back, which they do. His mutiny only results in him being declared a traitor, arrested along with his fellow mutineers, and finally hanged by a resurrected Jon Snow. Thorne was definitely not one of the smartest men in the Night's Watch.

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* TookALevelInKindness: While still not the nicest guy in the world when the Wildling wildling attack is about to happen he goes through this, even admitting to Jon that Jon's advice to seal the tunnels was right and he (Ser Alliser) was wrong. He also becomes a more effective leader to his men. When Jon's heroic acts are listed by Sam (leading his fellow brothers against the mutineers, killing Styr, dealing with Mance Rayder) Thorne simply says he can't argue with his deeds, subtly giving him credit where credit's due. Later, he even admits that Jon is a good man with a good heart. Unfortunately, he slides right back into his old {{Jerkass}} ways in Season 5, ultimately becoming even ''worse'' after he murders Jon.
* StupidEvil: Thorne's mutiny against Jon was completely and utterly stupid. The only reason he did it was because of his hatred against the Wildlings. wildlings. After that, he stupidly forgets to prepare in case the Wildlings wildlings come back, which they do. His mutiny only results in him being declared a traitor, arrested along with his fellow mutineers, and finally hanged by a resurrected Jon Snow. Thorne was definitely not one of the smartest men in the Night's Watch.



* UngratefulBastard: Lord Commander Jon Snow treated him fairly, rewarded him into a high post based on merit (despite his dislike for Thorne) and Thorne repays him by instigating TheCoup and assassinating him. Thorne states later that he did it because he disagreed with his Wildling policy but since he let Jon and the Wildlings through the Wall when he had a chance to let them die, it's clear that his main reasons was personal ambitions.

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* UngratefulBastard: Lord Commander Jon Snow treated him fairly, rewarded him into a high post based on merit (despite his dislike for Thorne) and Thorne repays him by instigating TheCoup and assassinating him. Thorne states later that he did it because he disagreed with his Wildling wildling policy but since he let Jon and the Wildlings wildlings through the Wall when he had a chance to let them die, it's clear that his main reasons was personal ambitions.



* LastRequest: He asks Jon to write to his mother and tell her he died fighting the Wildlings, rather than execution for mutiny.

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* LastRequest: He asks Jon to write to his mother and tell her he died fighting the Wildlings, wildlings, rather than execution for mutiny.



->''"Ser Denys Mallister joined the Watch as a boy and has served loyally longer than any other Ranger. Through ten winters he served. As Commander of the Shadow Tower he kept the Wildlings away. We could do no better."''

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->''"Ser Denys Mallister joined the Watch as a boy and has served loyally longer than any other Ranger. Through ten winters he served. As Commander of the Shadow Tower he kept the Wildlings wildlings away. We could do no better."''



* AbsenteeActor: Narrowly averted. J.J. Murphy died a matter of days after filming all or at least most of his scenes for Season 5. It isn't clear if the writers wanted to film another scene or two with him, but apparently enough of his scenes were filmed that the producers wanted to use what he already filmed instead of recasting the role.

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* AbsenteeActor: Narrowly averted. J.J. Murphy died a matter of days after filming all or at least most of his scenes for Season 5. It isn't clear if the writers wanted to film another scene or two with him, but apparently apparently, enough of his scenes were filmed that the producers wanted to use what he already filmed instead of recasting the role.



* BadassGrandpa: He joined the Watch when he was only a boy, has survived ten winters and in the past he has successfully repelled an attempted Wildling invasion.

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* BadassGrandpa: He joined the Watch when he was only a boy, has survived ten winters and in the past past, he has successfully repelled an attempted Wildling wildling invasion.



* TheGhost: Mentioned in a Season 1 episode and no seen since, even being missing from the Lord Commander's choosing. It's implied he's no longer alive by Season 7, given that Jon has need of Tormund and the Free Folk to defend the castle.

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* TheGhost: Mentioned in a Season 1 episode and no not seen since, since. He is even being missing from the Lord Commander's choosing. It's implied he's no longer alive by Season 7, given that Jon has need of Tormund and the Free Folk to defend the castle.



[[caption-width-right:350:''"I don't think I can kill a hundred Wildlings."'']]

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[[caption-width-right:350:''"I don't think I can kill a hundred Wildlings.wildlings."'']]



* IronicEcho: See his quote above. He doesn't manage to kill a hundred Wildlings during the battle of Castle Black, but he ''does'' kill at least one; thus playing his small part in the vital Nights Watch's defence, before he himself dies.

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* IronicEcho: See his quote above. He doesn't manage to kill a hundred Wildlings wildlings during the battle of Castle Black, but he ''does'' kill at least one; thus playing his small part in the vital Nights Watch's defence, before he himself dies.



A young boy who is the lone survivor of a small village in the Gift razed by Wildlings.

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A young boy who is the lone survivor of a small village in the Gift razed by Wildlings.wildlings.



* AssholeVictim: His hanging was well deserved given that he murdered a man who treated him with nothing but kindness and acted like a mentor to him.
* BrokenPedestal: He greatly looks up to Jon as an older brother, but Jon's decision to save and ally with the Wildlings upsets him deeply, since it was Wildlings that killed his family and everyone else in his village. Then Jon goes on a mission with Tormund, the one who led the raiding party, to save the Wildlings stranded at Hardhome. In the end, he betrays Jon for it.

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* AssholeVictim: His hanging was well deserved hanging, given that he murdered a man who treated him with nothing but kindness and acted like a mentor to him.
* BrokenPedestal: He greatly looks up to Jon as an [[CoolBigBro older brother, brother]], but Jon's decision to save and ally with and save the Wildlings wildlings from the Night King's army of the dead upsets him deeply, deeply since it was Wildlings that a wildling group who killed his family and everyone else in his village. Then Jon goes on a mission with Tormund, the one who led the raiding party, to save the Wildlings wildlings stranded at Hardhome. In the end, he Olly betrays and murders Jon for it.



* CoolBigBro: Though not related by blood, Jon seems to take on this role for Olly, looks out for Olly, and often has a hand on his shoulder to help him out. While Jon is training Olly, Jon gives him the exact same advice that Jon's father Ned gave to his own younger brother Benjen in the training yard. Grenn also takes a shine to him, promising to go hunting with him. Not that any of it stops Olly from betraying Jon. Jon is visibly sad at Olly's betrayal and he was the only traitor Jon was sad about hanging.
* CompositeCharacter: He takes on aspects of Satin from the books.
* DefiantToTheEnd: As he is about to be hanged, he has no last words to give to Jon, only a DeathGlare to him.
* DoomedHometown: His hometown was decimated by Wildlings and only he was left alive.

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* CoolBigBro: Though not related by blood, Jon seems to take on this role for Olly, looks out for Olly, and often has a hand on his shoulder to help him out. While Jon is training Olly, Jon gives him the exact same advice that Jon's father Ned gave to his own younger brother Benjen in the training yard. Grenn also takes a shine to him, promising to go hunting with him. Not that any of it stops Olly from betraying Jon. Jon is visibly sad at saddened by Olly's betrayal and he was the only traitor Jon was sad about hanging.
betrayal.
* CompositeCharacter: He takes on some aspects of Satin from the books.
books in being Jon's steward.
* DefiantToTheEnd: As he is about to be hanged, he has no last does not appear remorseful for murdering Jon and only gives Jon a DeathGlare. He does not give any final words as the other mutineers did and appears to give to Jon, only a DeathGlare to him.
seethe with hatred in his last moments.
* DoomedHometown: His hometown was decimated by Wildlings wildlings and only he was left alive.



* FreudianExcuse: His parents and entire village were butchered in a Wildling attack. Given that Jon decides to help the Wildlings (including Tormund, who actually participated in the destruction of Olly's village), it's hard to blame him for being angry at Jon. Whether or not it justifies him betraying Jon is up for debate.
* InformedAbility: Boasts to be [[TheArcher the best archer]] in his hamlet. True either way, since [[SoleSurvivor everyone else in his hamlet is dead]] now, and his hamlet is small enough that it doesn't even have a name. Nevertheless he proves he is a competent archer when he lands a fatal shot on Ygritte in "The Watchers on the Wall".

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* FreudianExcuse: His parents and entire village were butchered in a Wildling wildling attack. Given that Jon decides to help the Wildlings wildlings (including Tormund, who actually participated in the destruction of Olly's village), it's hard to blame him for being Olly is angry at Jon. Whether or not it justifies him betraying Jon is up for debate.
* InformedAbility: Boasts to be [[TheArcher the best archer]] in his hamlet. True either way, since [[SoleSurvivor everyone else in his hamlet is dead]] now, and his hamlet is small enough that it doesn't even have a name. Nevertheless Nevertheless, he proves he is a competent archer when he lands a fatal shot on Ygritte {{Revenge fatally shoots Ygritte}} in "The Watchers on the Wall".



* SoleSurvivor: Of his hometown, when it's attacked by Wildlings.

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* SoleSurvivor: Of his hometown, when it's attacked by Wildlings.wildlings.



* TheSquire: As Steward, he's essentially this to Jon.
* TagalongKid: Becomes one for the Night's Watch once he joins them, after his hometown is attacked by Wildlings.

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* TheSquire: As Steward, steward, he's essentially this to Jon.
* TagalongKid: Becomes one for the Night's Watch once he joins them, them after his hometown is attacked by Wildlings.wildlings.



->''"When people talk about the Night's Watch, they never mention the shovelling."''

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->''"When people talk about the Night's Watch, they never mention the shovelling.shoveling."''



* HeroOfAnotherStory: Along with Edd, Grenn had an interesting time off-screen following the mutiny at Craster's Keep. He fights the mutineers, is defeated, imprisoned and tortured, witnesses Karl's rise to leadership and his subsequent atrocities. Grenn finally escapes and travels through Wildling territories and harsh environments before returning to Castle Black.

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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Along with Edd, Grenn had an interesting time off-screen following the mutiny at Craster's Keep. He fights the mutineers, is defeated, imprisoned and tortured, witnesses Karl's rise to leadership and his subsequent atrocities. Grenn finally escapes and travels through Wildling wildling territories and harsh environments before returning to Castle Black.



* OffScreenMomentOfAwesome: He and five other Nightswatchmen successfully hold off and kill a giant trying to breach the Wall's gates. After the initial Wildling siege is repulsed, Jon and Sam find his and the five others' corpses next to that of the now dead giant's.

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* OffScreenMomentOfAwesome: He and five other Nightswatchmen successfully hold off and kill a giant trying to breach the Wall's gates. After the initial Wildling wildling siege is repulsed, repelled, Jon and Sam sadly find his Grenn and the five others' corpses next to that of the now dead giant's.



* TheOnlyOneITrust: Kit Harington suggested [[http://winteriscoming.net/2014/06/11/kit-harington-filming-battle-castle-black-broken-jon-snow-heading-finale/ in an interview]] that Jon sends Grenn down to hold the gate against Mag the Mighty, despite knowing he was probably sending one of his closest buddies to his death, because Grenn was the only one he trusted could do it. He was probably right.

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* TheOnlyOneITrust: Jon sends Grenn to hold the gate because if the gate is taken, everyone dies. Kit Harington suggested [[http://winteriscoming.net/2014/06/11/kit-harington-filming-battle-castle-black-broken-jon-snow-heading-finale/ in an interview]] that Jon sends Grenn down to hold the gate against Mag the Mighty, despite knowing he was probably sending one of his closest buddies to his death, because Grenn was the only one he who Jon trusted could actually do it. He was probably right.



* UndyingLoyalty: He's the first man to volunteer for Jon's mission to Craster's Keep, both to aid his friend Jon and avenge Lord Commander Mormont, who was killed in a mutiny.

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* UndyingLoyalty: He's the first man to volunteer for Jon's mission to Craster's Keep, both to aid his friend Jon and avenge Lord Commander Mormont, who was killed in a mutiny. He dies holding the gate to defend the Watch.



* YouShallNotPass: Jon orders him to hold the Wall's gates with only five men. They manage to kill Mag the Mighty and stop anyone else from coming through the gate, albeit at the cost of each of their lives.

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* YouShallNotPass: Jon orders him to hold the Wall's gates with only five men. men and Grenn [[UndyingLoyalty doesn't hesitate to do it, even knowing it'll likely cost him his own life]]. They manage to kill Mag the Mighty and stop anyone else from coming through the gate, albeit at but all die in the cost of each of their lives.process.



-->'''Slynt:''' Sam the Slayer. Another Wildling lover, just like his friend, Jon Snow. How's your lady love, Slayer?\\

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-->'''Slynt:''' Sam the Slayer. Another Wildling wildling lover, just like his friend, Jon Snow. How's your lady love, Slayer?\\



'''Sam:''' A Wildling girl, a baby, and Lord Janos. I found him there after the battle was over... in a puddle of his own making.

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'''Sam:''' A Wildling wildling girl, a baby, and Lord Janos. I found him there after the battle was over... in a puddle of his own making.



* {{Hypocrite}}: He tries to justify his actions by saying Ned tried to bribe him to betray the king. Tyrion quickly points out the real reason was that Littlefinger had already paid him to betray Ned. Also what makes the difference between him and Ser Barristan is that Janos Slynt is willing to do the easy tasks like harming vulnerable children but unwilling to do the hard stuff like fighting Wildlings as shown in the DirtyCoward section.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: He tries to justify his actions by saying Ned tried to bribe him to betray the king. Tyrion quickly points out the real reason was that Littlefinger had already paid him to betray Ned. Also what makes the difference between him and Ser Barristan is that Janos Slynt is willing to do the easy tasks like harming vulnerable children but unwilling to do the hard stuff like fighting Wildlings wildlings as shown in the DirtyCoward section.



* AdaptationalVillainy: While he's a jerkass rapist in the books, in the show, he betrays and murders Lord Commander Mormont. And in Season 4, he does just like Craster and keeps sacrificing babies to the White Walkers, albeit reluctantly.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: While he's Rast is still a jerkass {{jerkass}} and rapist in the books, in the show, he betrays his show storyline also has Rast betraying and murders murdering Lord Commander Mormont. And in In Season 4, he does just like Craster and keeps sacrificing babies to the White Walkers, albeit reluctantly.



* TheBully: Against Samwell. It takes Jon's threats (as well as Ghost's intervention) to get him to lay off Sam. When Jon is with the Wildlings, he's back in bully mode. It takes Mormont's threat to get him to lay off again.

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* TheBully: Against Samwell. It takes Jon's threats (as well as Ghost's intervention) to get him to lay off Sam. When Jon is with the Wildlings, wildlings, he's back in bully mode. It takes Mormont's threat to get him to lay off again.



* EvilIsPetty: After killing Mormont, he walks out of Craster's Keep and swears to hunt Sam down and kill him... ''who had just run away''. While Craster's {{jerkass}}ery contributed a lot, Rast's decission to betray the Watch and kill Mormont apparently grew out of his hatred of Sam and being told to lay it off by others.

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* EvilIsPetty: After killing Mormont, he walks out of Craster's Keep and swears to hunt Sam down and kill him... ''who had just run away''. While Craster's {{jerkass}}ery contributed a lot, Rast's decission decision to betray the Watch and kill Mormont apparently grew out of his hatred of Sam and being told to lay it off by others.



* LaserGuidedKarma: Rast goes from a bully to a victim of a bully, and his murder of Mormont ultimately makes things worse for him, particularly when Karl Tanner takes over. Karl turns Rast into his resident ButtMonkey, delegating the worst of duties to him and humiliating him at every turn. And when Jon and his volunteers attack the mutineers at Crasters Keep, he tries to flee, only to be devoured by Ghost. Bet he wishes he hadn't killed Mormont now.

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* LaserGuidedKarma: Rast goes from a bully to a victim of a bully, and his murder of Mormont ultimately makes things worse for him, particularly when Karl Tanner takes over. Karl turns Rast into his resident ButtMonkey, delegating the worst of duties to him and humiliating him at every turn. And when Jon and his volunteers attack the mutineers at Crasters Craster's Keep, he tries to flee, only to be devoured by Ghost. Bet he wishes he hadn't killed Mormont now.



* WeUsedToBeFriends: He, Pyp, and Grenn were seen hanging around together at their introduction and all had a very special hatred for Jon. The latter two eventually became TrueCompanions with him along with Sam while Rast himself remained antagonistic.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: He, Pyp, and Grenn were seen hanging around together at their introduction and all had a very special hatred for Jon. The latter two eventually resented Jon in the beginning. Pyp and Grenn later became TrueCompanions with him Jon, along with Sam Sam, while Rast himself remained antagonistic.



* AllThereInTheManual: In Season 3, his name was not stated onscreen. Since he is an amalgam of several minor NW members (and lacks Book Karl's club foot), early reviewers used different names for him, like Dirk.

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* AllThereInTheManual: In Season 3, his name was not stated onscreen. Since he is an amalgam of several minor NW members (and lacks Book Karl's club foot), clubfoot), early reviewers used different names for him, like Dirk.



* AssholeVictim: Sadistic psychopath, murderer, and rapist. It was satisfying to watch Jon shove Longclaw through his cunt mouth.

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* AssholeVictim: Sadistic psychopath, murderer, and rapist. It was satisfying to watch Jon shove shoves Longclaw through his cunt mouth.Karl's head, just after Karl is stabbed in the gut by the woman he was menacing -- one of Craster's daughter-wives.



-->'''Karl:''' I could piss in any gutter and soak five of you. You know how much they paid me to kill a man at King's Landing? Seven silvers. They told me a man's name and that man never saw daylight again. None of them cocksuckers got away from me. I haven't lost a fight since I was nine. Maybe it's time? What do you think? EH? Maybe [Rast is] the man. EH? CUNTS? [...] I was a fucking LEGEND in Gin Alley. The. Fucking. LEGEND! I would take any knight, ANY knight, any time. Fucking cunts in steel plate. Fucking cowards.

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-->'''Karl:''' I could piss in any gutter and soak five of you. You know how much they paid me to kill a man at King's Landing? Seven silvers. They told me a man's name and that man never saw daylight again. None of them cocksuckers got away from me. I haven't lost a fight since I was nine. Maybe it's time? What do you think? EH? Maybe [Rast is] the man. EH? CUNTS? [...] I was a fucking LEGEND in Gin Alley. The. Fucking. LEGEND! I would take any knight, ANY ''any'' knight, any time.anytime. Fucking cunts in steel plate. Fucking cowards.



* ChekhovsGunman: First appears as a very minor background character with only few lines and showing interest in Craster's wives/daughters and food stash. He then becomes the main instigator behind the mutiny that claims the lives of both Craster and Lord Commander Mormont and later becomes a major antagonist in the Night's Watch storyline in Season 4.

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* ChekhovsGunman: First appears as a very minor background character with only a few lines and showing interest in Craster's wives/daughters and food stash. He then becomes the main instigator behind the mutiny that claims the lives of both Craster and Lord Commander Mormont and later becomes a major antagonist in the Night's Watch storyline in Season 4.



** Could be considered as one for Rorge and Biter from the books. Given that their role was minimal in the show and had no on-screen atrocities, Karl seems to have gained their desire for raping and brutalizing women and young girls. Karl's actions, while ruling at Craster's Keep are the only things that comes even close at what Rorge does during the sack at Saltpans in the books. Both are the most heinous serial rapists in the said universes and Karl even dies the same way as Biter in the books.
* ConsultingMisterPuppet: He drunkenly does this with Jeor Mormont's skull. Apparently Mormont wants the mutineers to "fuck 'em (Craster's daughter-wives) 'til they're dead".

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** Could be considered as one for Rorge and Biter from the books. Given that their role was minimal in the show and had no on-screen atrocities, Karl seems to have gained their desire for raping and brutalizing women and young girls. Karl's actions, while While ruling at Craster's Keep Keep, Karl's actions are the only things that comes come even close at to what Rorge does during the sack at Saltpans in the books. Both are the most heinous serial rapists in the said universes and Karl even dies the same way as Biter in the books.
* ConsultingMisterPuppet: He drunkenly does this with Jeor Mormont's skull. Apparently Apparently, Mormont wants the mutineers to "fuck 'em (Craster's daughter-wives) 'til they're dead".



* DeadpanSnarker: Karl is deeply sarcastic and snarky; bullying Rast with jibes, pretending to speak to Mormont's skull and taking a mock bow when Jon faces off with him.
* TheDreaded: Has this reputation during his reign in Craster's Keep. He is constantly pressuring his own men to rape and brutalize Craster's wives/daughters and throwing vulgar insults at them, knowing how no one matches him in combat.

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* DeadpanSnarker: Karl is deeply sarcastic and snarky; bullying snarky. He bullies Rast with jibes, pretending pretends to speak to Mormont's skull skull, and taking takes a mock bow when Jon faces off with him.
him, taunting Jon about his castle training.
* TheDreaded: Has this reputation during his reign in Craster's Keep. He is constantly pressuring his own men to rape and brutalize Craster's wives/daughters and throwing vulgar insults at them, knowing how no one that nobody else there matches him in combat.



* HeroicSacrifice: Makes [[ShootYourMate Jon kill him]] to convince the Wildlings that Snow is genuinely defecting to their side.
-->'''Qhorin:''' We are the watchers on the wall...
* HyperAwareness: Part of what makes him such a solid badass is how in tune he is with his surroundings, able to live outside the Wall almost as well as the Wildlings.
* InformedAbility: See AdaptationalWimp, we never see him do anything badass, even though everybody goes on about how awesome he is.

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* HeroicSacrifice: Makes [[ShootYourMate Jon kill him]] to convince the Wildlings wildlings that Snow is genuinely defecting to their side.
-->'''Qhorin:''' We are the watchers on the wall...
Wall...
* HyperAwareness: Part of what makes him such a solid badass is how in tune he is with his surroundings, able to live outside the Wall almost as well as the Wildlings.
wildlings.
* InformedAbility: See AdaptationalWimp, we never see him do anything badass, badass on-screen, even though everybody goes on about how awesome he is.



* MrExposition: You need to know anything about Mance Rayder and the Wildlings? Then Qhorin is your man.
* ThanatosGambit: He has an inkling he would not be treated well by his Wildling captors who know of his reputation and believed he would be killed, so he engineers a [[SuicideByCop Suicide By Watch-Brother]], also serving to help sell Jon Snow's [[FakeDefector fake defection]].

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* MrExposition: You need to know anything about Mance Rayder and the Wildlings? wildlings? Then Qhorin is your man.
* ThanatosGambit: He has an inkling he would not be treated well by his Wildling wildling captors who know of his reputation and believed he would be killed, so he engineers a [[SuicideByCop Suicide By Watch-Brother]], also serving to help sell Jon Snow's [[FakeDefector fake defection]].



* WorthyOpponent: For Mance Rayder and the Wildlings.

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* WorthyOpponent: For Mance Rayder and the Wildlings.wildlings.



* DecoyProtagonist: Of a sort. He, along with Waymar Royce and Gared, are the first people seen in the show. However, all of this is ended when his head is lopped off not 10 minutes into the pilot. [[labelnote:From the books...]] Indeed, Will's POV is the Prologue. [[/labelnote]]
* FaceDeathWithDignity: Even though he's completely wrecked when he's captured, he still composes himself before the end.

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* DecoyProtagonist: Of a sort. He, along with Waymar Royce and Gared, are the first people seen in the show. However, all of this is ended when his head is lopped off not 10 minutes into the pilot. [[labelnote:From the books...]] Indeed, Will's ]]Will's POV is the Prologue.prologue for the first book, ''A Game of Thrones''. [[/labelnote]]
* FaceDeathWithDignity: Even though he's completely wrecked when he's captured, he Will still composes himself before the end.



* DecoyProtagonist: Arguably the first one in the series. He's one of the first three people seen in the pilot, but he doesn't last long. Perhaps to emphasize this, in the pilot he was [[TheOtherMarty originally played by]] [[Creator/JamieCampbellBower Jamie Campbell Bower]], too well known of an actor simply to cast in a throwaway role.

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* DecoyProtagonist: Arguably Waymar is of the first one ones in the series. He's one of the first three people seen in the pilot, but he doesn't last long. Perhaps to emphasize this, in the pilot pilot, he was [[TheOtherMarty originally played by]] [[Creator/JamieCampbellBower Jamie Campbell Bower]], too well known of an actor simply to cast in a throwaway role.



* RecruitersAlwaysLie: Subverted. He's pretty much straightforward, to the point of being in the direction of GoYeHeroesGoAndDie in terms of his speech-making. This is justified since for many recruits, the Watch is just an alternative to the death penalty.

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* RecruitersAlwaysLie: Subverted. He's pretty much straightforward, to the point of being in the direction of GoYeHeroesGoAndDie in terms of his speech-making. This is justified since since, for many recruits, the Watch is just an alternative to the death penalty.



-->'''Yoren:''' [[NotSoDifferent You know, we've got something in common, me and you.]] You know that? I must have been a couple of years older than you. I saw my brother stabbed through the heart right on our doorstep. He weren't much of a villain what skewered him. Willem, the lad's name was. He ran off before anyone could spit. And I just stood there, watching my brother die. Here's the funny part. I can't picture my brother's face anymore. But Willem, oh, he was a nice-looking boy. He had good white teeth, blue eyes, one of those dimpled chins all the girls like. I would think about him when I was working, when I was drinking, when I was having a shit. It got to the point where I would say his name every night before I went to bed. Willem. Willem. Willem. A prayer almost. Well, one day, Willem came riding back into town. [[NoKillLikeOverkill I buried an ax so deep in Willem's skull they had to bury him with it.]] Willem's horse got me to the Wall and I've been wearing black ever since. [[DeadpanSnarker That'll help you sleep, eh?]]

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-->'''Yoren:''' [[NotSoDifferent You know, we've got something in common, me and you.]] You know that? I must have been a couple of years older than you. I saw my brother stabbed through the heart right on our doorstep. He weren't wasn't much of a villain what skewered him. Willem, the lad's name was. He ran off before anyone could spit. And I just stood there, watching my brother die. Here's the funny part. I can't picture my brother's face anymore. But Willem, oh, he was a nice-looking boy. He had good white teeth, blue eyes, one of those dimpled chins all the girls like. I would think about him when I was working, when I was drinking, when I was having a shit. It got to the point where I would say his name every night before I went to bed. Willem. Willem. Willem. A prayer almost. Well, one day, Willem came riding back into town. [[NoKillLikeOverkill I buried an ax so deep in Willem's skull they had to bury him with it.]] Willem's horse got me to the Wall and I've been wearing black ever since. [[DeadpanSnarker That'll help you sleep, eh?]]
16th Jan '18 4:37:41 PM oforiousmic
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** In Season 2, and a deleted scene in Season 3, Lord Commander Mormont's request for men and supplies was turned down by the Small Council. Tyrion at least was sympathetic in both cases (having befriended Mormont on his visit to the Wall) but the others refuse, for the partly justifiable reason that they are embroiled in war. Tywin in Season 3's deleted scene however refuses because he sees the Night's Watch as an entirely Northern organization (even if Dolorous Edd is from the Vale and Sam Tarly is from the Reach to say nothing of Maester Aemond and Ser Alliser Thorne who aren't Northmen at all) and, in jest, he suggests sending arms and supplies to Mance Rayder so that he can invade and attack the North.

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** In Season 2, and a deleted scene in Season 3, Lord Commander Mormont's request for men and supplies was turned down by the Small Council. Tyrion at least was sympathetic in both cases (having befriended Mormont on his visit to the Wall) but the others refuse, for the partly justifiable reason that they are embroiled in war. Tywin in Season 3's deleted scene however refuses because he sees the Night's Watch as an entirely Northern organization (even if Dolorous Edd is from the Vale and Sam Tarly is from the Reach to say nothing of Maester Aemond Aemon and Ser Alliser Thorne who aren't Northmen at all) and, in jest, he suggests sending arms and supplies to Mance Rayder so that he can invade and attack the North.
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* HateSink: His bullying, smug nature makes him one of the more detestable characters both in and out of universe. Any sympathy he might have had was destroyed when he betrayed and murdered Jon Snow. It makes his hanging by a resurrected Jon Snow extremely satisfying.

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* HateSink: His bullying, smug nature makes him one of the more detestable characters both in and out of universe.the show. Any sympathy he might have had was destroyed when he betrayed and murdered Jon Snow. It makes his hanging by a resurrected Jon Snow extremely satisfying.
6th Oct '17 4:16:11 AM Kookosbanaani
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* TheDreaded: Has this reputation during his reign in Craster's Keep. He is constantly pressuring his own men to rape and brutalize Craster's wives/daughters and throwing vulgar insults at them, knowing how no one matches him in combat.
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The Nightís Watch is a sworn brotherhood who defends a giant wall of ice against supernatural and unknown threats beyond the Wall. It is described by the series' show-runners as a cross between an ancient monastic order and a special forces brigade. It was once considered a noble calling by the entire realm but now, it is only considered a noble and honorable calling by those in the North, from where many second sons or highborn illegitimate sons of Northern noble houses voluntarily join for the sake of honor and duty. Because the [[SealedEvilInACan army-of-the-dead threat]] is considered to be long gone, most realms donít hold it in high esteem anymore and nowadays -- in addition to the few nobles and noble-born bastard sons who voluntarily join -- it is also manned by individuals who were once criminals, fugitives, and disgraced ex-knights. Any man joining the Night's Watch is given amnesty for all his previous crimes and is beyond the reach of the Kings of Westeros. At the beginning of the series, [[GreaterScopeVillain the Others]] are shown to have returned.

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The Nightís Watch is a sworn brotherhood who defends of warriors tasked with defending a giant wall of ice against supernatural and unknown threats beyond the Wall. It is described by the series' show-runners as a cross between an ancient monastic order and a special forces brigade. It was once considered a noble calling by the entire realm but now, it is only considered a noble and honorable calling by those in the North, from where many second sons or highborn illegitimate sons of Northern noble houses voluntarily join for the sake of honor and duty. Because the [[SealedEvilInACan army-of-the-dead threat]] is considered to be long gone, most realms donít hold it in high esteem anymore and nowadays -- in addition to the few nobles and noble-born bastard sons who voluntarily join -- it is also manned by individuals who were once criminals, fugitives, and disgraced ex-knights. Any man joining the Night's Watch is given amnesty for all his previous crimes and is beyond the reach of the Kings of Westeros. At the beginning of the series, [[GreaterScopeVillain the Others]] are shown to have returned.
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