History Characters / GameOfThronesHouseTully

23rd Mar '17 3:47:24 PM TywinIsGod
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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Whilst he may suck at strategy - he still send Tywin's mad dog back to casterly rock fair and square.
19th Mar '17 9:58:09 PM karategal
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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: House Tully has quite a bit of similarities with the [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Habsburg dynasty]], given their penchant for forging alliances and marrying off members of their family to secure even greater power. Basically the Riverlands in general which they rule over are the Belgium of Westeros. Like the Low Countries in Medieval Europe, they're the borderlands between all of the major powers (England, France, Germany), so they're on the front line of almost ''every'' major war. Only the fact that they're one of the more fertile breadbasket regions of Westeros (along with the Reach) allows them to recover in the generations between major wars.

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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: House Tully has quite a bit of similarities with the [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Habsburg dynasty]], given their penchant for forging alliances and marrying off members of their family to secure even greater power. Basically Basically, the Riverlands in general which they rule over are the Belgium of Westeros. Like the Low Countries in Medieval Europe, they're the borderlands between all of the major powers (England, France, Germany), so they're on the front line of almost ''every'' major war. Only the fact that they're one of the more fertile breadbasket regions of Westeros (along with the Reach) allows them to recover in the generations between major wars.



** During the Rebellion, he rode through the villages of loyalist Houses, putting smallfok to the sword and burning as he went. In the show he's a protector of the smallfolk.

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** During the Rebellion, he rode through the villages of loyalist Houses, putting smallfok to the sword and burning as he went. In the show show, he's a protector of the smallfolk.



* ButtMonkey: Is the recipient of not one, but TWO [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech "The Reason You Suck" Speeches]] within his first five minutes of screentime, courtesy of the Blackfish and Robb Stark. Later in the season he is forced into an arranged marriage because of Robb's mistakes, and just after finding out that his wife is [[ThrowTheDogABone surprisingly beautiful]] he is [[YankTheDogsChain taken prisoner by the Freys and remains in captivity for several seasons.]]

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* ButtMonkey: Is the recipient of not one, but TWO [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech "The Reason You Suck" Speeches]] within his first five minutes of screentime, courtesy of the Blackfish and Robb Stark. Later in the season season, he is forced into an arranged marriage because of Robb's mistakes, and just after finding out that his wife is [[ThrowTheDogABone surprisingly beautiful]] he is [[YankTheDogsChain taken prisoner by the Freys and remains in captivity for several seasons.]]



** In the novels it's more fully explained that Edmure isn't a complete incompetent, it's just that he's not "a wartime consigliere" (in ''Godfather'' terms). In peacetime he'd actually be praised as a great ruler who genuinely cares about his subjects. When the Riverlands are first invaded he lets hundreds of refugees inside Riverrun, even though having extra mouths to feed is a disastrous tactical decision during a siege - he felt honor bound not to abandon those who followed him.

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** In the novels it's more fully explained that Edmure isn't a complete incompetent, it's just that he's not "a wartime consigliere" (in ''Godfather'' terms). In peacetime he'd actually be praised as a great ruler who genuinely cares about his subjects. When the Riverlands are first invaded he lets hundreds of refugees inside Riverrun, even though having extra mouths to feed is a disastrous tactical decision during a siege - -- he felt honor bound not to abandon those who followed him.



* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: He gathered the remaining Tully forces and retook Riverrun by Season 6. [[labelnote: In the books...]] Riverrun was never lost. He defends it, and it stays besieged but unconquered by the Freys - though it ''is'' considered impressive that he has defiantly been able to hold the castle against the Frey/Lannister forces for ''over a year'' after the Red Wedding, when Jaime arrives.[[/labelnote]]

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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: He gathered the remaining Tully forces and retook Riverrun by Season 6. [[labelnote: In the books...]] Riverrun was never lost. He defends it, and it stays besieged but unconquered by the Freys - -- though it ''is'' considered impressive that he has defiantly been able to hold the castle against the Frey/Lannister forces for ''over a year'' after the Red Wedding, when Jaime arrives.[[/labelnote]]



* PutOnABus: After the Red Wedding, he is absent from seasons four and five. TheBusCameBack in season six, with a final stop that happens to be inside Riverrun.

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* PutOnABus: After the Red Wedding, he is absent from seasons four Seasons 4 and five. 5. TheBusCameBack in season six, Season 6, with a final stop that happens to be inside Riverrun.



* SoleSurvivor: The only named character in attendence to not get either killed or captured in the Red Wedding, thanks to a luckily-timed loo break.[[labelnote:From the Books...]]Brynden wasn't even at the Twins in the novels, Robb left him behind at Riverrun to hold the southern front against the Lannisters while he tried to kick the Greyjoys from the North and reconsolidate (Robb never contemplates a last-ditch attack on Casterly Rock in the novels). Both bringing Brynden along to the Twins, and hyping up a planned attack on Casterly Rock, seem to have been a deliberate attempt by the TV show to provide a HopeSpot - so the Starks' sudden destruction at the Red Wedding would be more of a surprise. Think about it: if ''all'' of Robb's major commanders and supporting characters are at the Twins, the audience thinks it's even less likely that they're going to be disastrously attacked, strength in numbers. The TV show then simply established that off-screen, Brynden managed to fight his way through the assault on the Stark army camp - ''presumably'' to flee back to Riverrun. In the sections of the novels corresponding to Season 4, Brynden and the surviving Tully garrison at Riverrun are besieged with no hope of rescue. They managed to hoard a lot of food resources before a new Lannister army arrived to encircle them, however, so they can hold out for some time - while with all other Stark-Tully armies defeated, the Lannisters see no reason to waste men by forcing the siege and are just waiting them out until they starve. Brynden is essentially Put On A Bus as a result, with characters only mentioning in passing from time to time that the siege of Riverrun is still ongoing. Jaime Lannister lifts the siege after some convincing by using Edmure as a hostage. The castle opens its doors, but the Blackfish disappears.[[/labelnote]]

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* SoleSurvivor: The only named character in attendence to not get either killed or captured in the Red Wedding, thanks to a luckily-timed loo break.[[labelnote:From the Books...]]Brynden wasn't even at the Twins in the novels, Robb left him behind at Riverrun to hold the southern front against the Lannisters while he tried to kick the Greyjoys from the North and reconsolidate (Robb never contemplates a last-ditch attack on Casterly Rock in the novels). Both bringing Brynden along to the Twins, and hyping up a planned attack on Casterly Rock, seem to have been a deliberate attempt by the TV show to provide a HopeSpot - -- so the Starks' sudden destruction at the Red Wedding would be more of a surprise. Think about it: if ''all'' of Robb's major commanders and supporting characters are at the Twins, the audience thinks it's even less likely that they're going to be disastrously attacked, strength in numbers. The TV show then simply established that off-screen, Brynden managed to fight his way through the assault on the Stark army camp - -- ''presumably'' to flee back to Riverrun. In the sections of the novels corresponding to Season 4, Brynden and the surviving Tully garrison at Riverrun are besieged with no hope of rescue. They managed to hoard a lot of food resources before a new Lannister army arrived to encircle them, however, so they can hold out for some time - -- while with all other Stark-Tully armies defeated, the Lannisters see no reason to waste men by forcing the siege and are just waiting them out until they starve. Brynden is essentially Put On A Bus as a result, with characters only mentioning in passing from time to time that the siege of Riverrun is still ongoing. Jaime Lannister lifts the siege after some convincing by using Edmure as a hostage. The castle opens its doors, but the Blackfish disappears.[[/labelnote]]
10th Feb '17 12:32:42 AM TrollBrutal
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* TheChewToy: Despite his entry under BornLucky, poor Edmure really can't catch a break. He is constantly disrespected, forced into an arranged marriage, imprisoned ''just'' after finding out that his wife is quite beautiful, held in captivity and presumably tortured for at least a year, [[spoiler: and finally re-imprisoned after being manipulated into getting his uncle killed.]]
9th Feb '17 6:58:55 PM wdfan
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** Many fans desperately hope that this was the writers hedging their bets on Brynden's return, and that in the TV version Edmure more wisely ''faked'' his uncle's death rather than announcing to the Lannisters that he escaped.



* TheChewToy: Despite his entry under BornLucky, poor Edmure really can't catch a break. He is constantly disrespected, forced into an arranged marriage, imprisoned ''just'' after finding out that his wife is quite beautiful, held in captivity and presumably tortured for at least a year, [[spoiler: and finally re-imprisoned after being manipulated into getting his uncle killed.]]



* DistressedDude: He's been imprisoned by the Freys since late Season 3. [[spoiler: He's finally freed in Season 6.]]

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* DistressedDude: He's been imprisoned by the Freys since late Season 3. [[spoiler: He's finally given a chance to be freed in Season 6.6...only to be cruelly thrown back in a cell after he has served his purpose for Jaime and the Freys.]]
10th Jan '17 12:42:12 PM TrollBrutal
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* ShootTheShaggyDog: [[spoiler: Jamie convinces him to betray his uncle and return command of Riverrun to the Freys, all based off the promise that he'll be with his wife and son again. He ends up getting thrown back in a cell immediately after fulfilling this action.]]

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* ShootTheShaggyDog: ShaggyDogStory: [[spoiler: Jamie convinces him to betray his uncle and return command of Riverrun to the Freys, all based off the promise that he'll be with his wife and son again. He ends up getting thrown back in a cell immediately after fulfilling this action.]]
10th Jan '17 12:26:37 PM wdfan
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* ShootTheShaggyDog: [[spoiler: Jamie convinces him to betray his uncle and return command of Riverrun to the Freys, all based off the promise that he'll be with his wife and son again. He ends up getting thrown back in a cell immediately after fulfilling this action.]]
5th Dec '16 4:24:32 PM TheDragonDemands
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**Many fans desperately hope that this was the writers hedging their bets on Brynden's return, and that in the TV version Edmure more wisely ''faked'' his uncle's death rather than announcing to the Lannisters that he escaped.
15th Nov '16 3:41:09 PM EmmaHarrow
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* KilledByTheAdaptation: Subverted in regards to the Red Wedding, which he attends in the show though he didn't in the book, but manages to escape.[[spoiler: Played straight in the aftermath of the Siege of Riverrun, where he goes down swinging while he escaped in the books.]]
11th Oct '16 8:23:23 PM Vox
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* AdaptationalVillainy: When handing Riverrun over to the Lannisters, he orders for his uncle Brynden Tully to be captured and put into their custody. In the books, he only surrenders the castle after he "[[SteppingOutForAQuickCupOfCoffee accidentally]]" lets the Blackfish escape.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: When handing Riverrun over to the Lannisters, he orders for his uncle Brynden Tully to be captured and put into their custody. In the books, he only surrenders the castle after he "[[SteppingOutForAQuickCupOfCoffee "[[BlatantLies accidentally]]" lets the Blackfish escape.
8th Oct '16 1:00:51 PM DustSnitch
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Hoster's younger brother, a knight. Acknowledged far and wide as one of the best knights and tacticians in Westeros, and a grade-A {{Badass}}.

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Hoster's younger brother, a knight. Acknowledged far and wide as one of the best knights and tacticians in Westeros, and a grade-A {{Badass}}.badass.



* NoSell: None of Jaime's attempts to get him to give up Riverrun work. Edmure can't be used as a bargaining chip, as Brynden has accepted that his nephew is likely going to die no matter what happens. Being the {{Badass}} that he is, the threat of a siege doesn't intimidate him. And the Freys can't starve him out because he and his men have enough provisions to last two years.

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* NoSell: None of Jaime's attempts to get him to give up Riverrun work. Edmure can't be used as a bargaining chip, as Brynden has accepted that his nephew is likely going to die no matter what happens. Being the {{Badass}} badass that he is, the threat of a siege doesn't intimidate him. And the Freys can't starve him out because he and his men have enough provisions to last two years.
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