History Characters / GameOfThronesHouseStark

22nd Dec '17 10:34:37 PM karategal
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* BeingGoodSucks: In Westeros, the decent way rarely is the efficient or happy way. Doing the right thing has its tolls. Deconstructed in Season 4. Even after their downfall the Starks still command HundredPercentAdorationRating among many of their former vassals and allies, all of whom would not hesitate a second to help any of the surviving Stark children, and when Stannis demands the capitulation of the northern noble Houses early in Season 5, their answer is exemplified by a ''ten year old'' girl's answer: "Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is Stark." Then season 6 comes around and this trope once again shows the price of good intentions, as most of the Northern houses turn their backs on the Starks.

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* BeingGoodSucks: In Westeros, the decent way rarely is the efficient or happy way. Doing the right thing has its tolls. Deconstructed in Season 4. Even after their downfall the Starks still command HundredPercentAdorationRating among many of their former vassals and allies, all of whom would not hesitate a second to help any of the surviving Stark children, and when Stannis demands the capitulation of the northern noble Houses early in Season 5, their answer is exemplified by a ''ten year old'' girl's answer: "Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is Stark." Then season Season 6 comes around and this trope once again shows the price of good intentions, as most of the Northern houses turn their backs on the Starks.



** Lord Rickard and Brandon were executed in King's Landing while Ned was on the Eyrie, Benjen at Winterfell and Lyanna captive at Dorne.

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** Lord Rickard and Brandon were executed in King's Landing while Ned was on the Eyrie, Benjen at Winterfell Winterfell, and Lyanna captive at Dorne.



** Ned is executed with only his daughters present. The others are either at Winterfell (Bran and Rickon), at the Wall (Jon) or beyond (Benjen), or marching towards King's Landing (Robb and Catelyn). And of course, Ned died before fulfilling his final promise to Jon to tell him about his mother when they meet again.

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** Ned is executed with only his daughters present. The others are either at Winterfell (Bran and Rickon), at the Wall (Jon) (Jon), or beyond (Benjen), or marching towards King's Landing (Robb and Catelyn). And of course, Ned died before fulfilling his final promise to Jon to tell him about his mother when they meet again.



** Jon, due to his status as a bastard son raised in a castle, was a societal outsider. By the end of season 6, he becomes a charismatic leader the whole North and the Wildlings are ready to follow.

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** Jon, due to his status as a bastard son raised in a castle, was a societal outsider. By the end of season Season 6, he becomes a charismatic leader the whole North and the Wildlings are ready to follow.



** When the two meet each other in season 7 Gendry and Jon quickly strike up a bond with Gendry in particular [[spoiler:taking their excursion over the Wall to capture a Wight]] as a grand adventure and clearly hoping to emulate their fathers adventures much to Davos' annoyance.

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** When the two meet each other in season 7 Season 7, Gendry and Jon quickly strike up a bond with Gendry in particular [[spoiler:taking their excursion over the Wall to capture a Wight]] as a grand adventure and clearly hoping to emulate their fathers adventures fathers' adventures, much to Davos' annoyance.



'''Jaime Lannister:''' (To Ned) Nobody deserve to die like that.

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'''Jaime Lannister:''' (To Ned) Nobody deserve deserves to die like that.



** Robb, Catelyn and Talissa's is as infamous as Lord Rickard and Brandon above, if not more. To specify, Robb's corpse was beheaded and has his direwolf's head sewn on it. Catelyn was stripped naked and thrown in a river, denied of her family's tradition of VikingFuneral. Talissa was repeatedly stabbed in the womb, while pregnant.

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** Robb, Catelyn Catelyn, and Talissa's is as infamous as Lord Rickard and Brandon above, if not more. To specify, Robb's corpse was beheaded and has his direwolf's head sewn on it. Catelyn was stripped naked and thrown in a river, denied of her family's tradition of VikingFuneral. Talissa was repeatedly stabbed in the womb, while pregnant.



* BigDamnHeroes: Saves Bran and Meera from wights in Season 6. [[spoiler: And Jon, also from Wights, in season 7.]]

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* BigDamnHeroes: Saves Bran and Meera from wights in Season 6. [[spoiler: And Jon, also from Wights, in season Season 7.]]



* BitchInSheepsClothing: [[spoiler: OK, her love affair with Rhaegar was totally consensual, but it doesn't change the fact that he was already married to Elia Martell, who by all accounts was totally devoted to him and had two children by him -- or that Lyanna seemed perfectly okay with him emotionally abusing her... Disrupting fragile family alliances and getting married in Elia's ancestral homeland. Or that if she's aware of how her eldest brother Brandon went to King's Landing to look for her, only to be held hostage and brutally killed by the Mad King, along with her father.]]

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* BitchInSheepsClothing: [[spoiler: OK, Okay, her love affair with Rhaegar was totally consensual, but it doesn't change the fact that he was already married to Elia Martell, who by all accounts was totally devoted to him and had two children by him -- or that Lyanna seemed perfectly okay with him emotionally abusing her... Disrupting her... while also disrupting fragile family alliances and getting married in Elia's ancestral homeland. Or that if she's aware of how her eldest brother Brandon went to King's Landing to look for her, only to be held hostage and brutally killed by the Mad King, along with her father.]]



* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler: Her fling with Rhaegar was consensual. But she somehow believed that running away with an already married man, the crown prince no less, who had two kids, when she was already bethroded to another powerful lord could possibly end happily. Instead it led to a civil war that killed her father and eldest brother because her former finance believed she was kidnapped.]]

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler: Her fling with Rhaegar was consensual. But she somehow believed that running away with an already married man, the crown prince no less, who had two kids, when she was already bethroded betrothed to another powerful lord could possibly end happily. Instead it led to a civil war that killed her father and eldest brother because her former finance fiance believed she was kidnapped.]]



** Ned comments that Arya takes after her in both appearance and personality. The flashbacks of Lyanna, which show her as a spirited tomboy wearing boy's clothing, befriending small folk and literally riding circles around her brothers backs this up.

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** Ned comments that Arya takes after her in both appearance and personality. The flashbacks of Lyanna, which show her as a spirited tomboy wearing boy's clothing, befriending small folk folk, and literally riding circles around her brothers backs this up.



* LoveRuinsTheRealm: [[spoiler:Her love for Rhaegar caused a lot of problems which resulted to deaths of her father and oldest brother and a civil war]].

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* LoveRuinsTheRealm: [[spoiler:Her love for Rhaegar caused a lot of problems which resulted to deaths of her father and father, oldest brother brother, the true heirs to the Iron Throne, and a civil war]].



* PoorCommunicationKills: [[spoiler: A lot of lives could have been spared if she had made it clear that Rheagar did not kidnap and rape her, but that she went with him willingly.]]

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* PoorCommunicationKills: [[spoiler: A lot of lives could have been spared if she had made it clear that Rheagar Rhaegar did not kidnap and rape her, but that she went with him willingly.]]



* SecondEpisodeIntroduction: Played with. While she's been mentioned several times in the show, she only physically appear via flashback during the second episode of Season 6.

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* SecondEpisodeIntroduction: Played with. While she's been mentioned several times in the show, she only physically appear appears via flashback during the second episode of Season 6.



* SmallRoleBigImpact: She had one of the largest influences in the plot: her kidnapping led to the death of Ned's father and brother and Robert's Rebellion, her death turned Robert Baratheon into a depressed man whose disdain for ruling caused no short end to problems and casts a constant shadow in his marriage to Cersei. And most of all, she is mother to Jon Snow, an incredibly important character.

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* SmallRoleBigImpact: She had one of the largest influences in the plot: her kidnapping led to the death of Ned's father and brother and Robert's Rebellion, her death turned Robert Baratheon into a depressed man whose disdain for ruling caused no short end to of problems and casts a constant shadow in on his marriage to Cersei. And most of all, she is mother to Jon Snow, an incredibly important character.



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Everyone believed she was kidnapped by Rhaegar. [[spoiler: Turns out Lyanna and Rhaegar were in love and eloped. The belief that she was kidnapped lead to Robert's Rebellion, during which her father and one of her brothers were killed by the Mad King.]]

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Everyone believed she was kidnapped by Rhaegar. [[spoiler: Turns out Lyanna and Rhaegar were in love and eloped. The belief that she was kidnapped lead led to Robert's Rebellion, during which her father and one of her brothers were killed by the Mad King.]]
16th Dec '17 4:43:33 AM cherrychels
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** Played with. He opposes any sort of physical harm, but he inadvertently causes a lot of the emotional pain. He takes Theon as hostage and keeps his distance in case he ever has to execute him, which contributes to Theon eventually [[joining Balon's second rebellion.]] He employs Septa Mordane and allows her to deride Arya as inferior to Sansa, and sees her sword-fighting as just a hobby and never actually takes the time to find out just why his youngest daughter opposes the idea of being a lady. He raises Jon Snow alongside his true born children, which contextually is a huge insult to Catelyn, and doesn't trust his wife with the truth, even when she's praying that Jon dies as a child. He doesn't explain to Sansa why they have to leave King's Landing, and expects her to be the good girl she always has been, not realising just how deeply she feels for Joffrey and ignoring her feelings even when she outright tells him.
*** He also has Theon carry his sword, Ice, to executions ever since he was a child, and has Theon watch him [[murder an effectively-innocent man in the first episode]].
16th Dec '17 4:16:15 AM mallyful
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** Played with. He opposes any sort of physical harm, but he inadvertently causes a lot of the emotional pain. He takes Theon as hostage and keeps his distance in case he ever has to execute him, which contributes to Theon eventually [[joining Balon's second rebellion.]] He employs Septa Mordane and allows her to deride Arya as inferior to Sansa, and sees her sword-fighting as just a hobby and never actually takes the time to find out just why his youngest daughter opposes the idea of being a lady. He raises Jon Snow alongside his true born children, which contextually is a huge insult to Catelyn, and doesn't trust his wife with the truth, even when she's praying that Jon dies as a child. He doesn't explain to Sansa why they have to leave King's Landing, and expects her to be the good girl she always has been, not realising just how deeply she feels for Joffrey and ignoring her feelings even when she outright tells him.
*** He also has Theon carry his sword, Ice, to executions ever since he was a child, and has Theon watch him [[murder an effectively-innocent man in the first episode]].
7th Dec '17 2:20:15 AM undashing
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* NiceGuy: Although distant, Ned is amiable enough, AFatherToHisMen and loves his family unconditionally, especially so when compared to the likes of other lords such as Roose Bolton or Tywin Lannister. He was so nice that he even tried to protect Cersei's children, despite them being incest born and their family being enemies to the Starks. Ned is easily one of the most honorable characters in the series.

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* NiceGuy: Although distant, Ned is amiable enough, AFatherToHisMen and loves his family unconditionally, especially so when compared to the likes of other lords such as Roose Bolton or Tywin Lannister. He was so nice kindhearted that he even tried to protect Cersei's children, despite them being incest born and their family being enemies to the Starks. Ned is easily one of the most honorable characters in the series.
22nd Oct '17 5:56:01 PM k410ren
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21st Oct '17 8:08:55 PM godzillavkk
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* DarkIsNotEvil: House Stark characters typically dress themselves in black, navy blue, and grey, and have a [[SavageWOlf savage wolf]] as their sigil, but they are nowhere near evil. In contrast to House Lannister who dress in gold and red and have a [[KingOfTheBeasts noble lion]] as their sigil. But [[LightIsNotGood are not good people.]]

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* DarkIsNotEvil: House Stark characters typically dress themselves in black, navy blue, and grey, and have a [[SavageWOlf savage wolf]] as their sigil, but they are nowhere near evil. In contrast to House Lannister who dress in gold and red and have a [[KingOfTheBeasts [[KingOfBeasts noble lion]] as their sigil. But [[LightIsNotGood are not good people.]]
21st Oct '17 8:08:08 PM godzillavkk
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* DarkIsNotEvil: House Stark characters typically dress themselves in black, navy blue, and grey, and have a [[SavageWOlf savage wolf]] as their sigil, but they are nowhere near evil. In contrast to House Lannister who dress in gold and red and have a [[KingOfTheBeasts noble lion]] as their sigil. But [[LightIsNotGood are not good people.]]
21st Oct '17 3:08:35 PM Winters15
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* PoorCommunicationKills: [[spoiler: So much trouble could've been avoided if she had just bothered to tell Robert that she really never loved him or inform her family about it.]]

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* PoorCommunicationKills: [[spoiler: So much trouble could've A lot of lives could have been avoided spared if she had just bothered to tell Robert made it clear that Rheagar did not kidnap and rape her, but that she really never loved went with him or inform her family about it.willingly.]]
16th Oct '17 1:20:38 AM TrollBrutal
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16th Oct '17 1:20:26 AM TrollBrutal
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* DarkSecret: Ned had one in what is perhaps the irony of the century. His bastard son Jon Snow is really the [[spoiler:trueborn]] son of Ned's sister Lyanna and ''Crown Prince Rhaegar Targaryen,'' making Jon [[spoiler:the true heir to House Targaryen and The Iron Throne.]]

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* DarkSecret: Ned had goes to the grave with one in what that is perhaps the irony of the century. His bastard son Jon Snow is really the [[spoiler:trueborn]] son of Ned's sister Lyanna and ''Crown Prince Rhaegar Targaryen,'' making Jon [[spoiler:the true heir to House Targaryen and their claim to The Iron Throne.]]
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