History Characters / GameOfThronesHouseFrey

31st Aug '17 5:22:29 AM XFllo
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* {{Expy}}: To [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dalrymple,_1st_Earl_of_Stair John Dalrymple]], the nobleman formally implicated in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe Glencoe Massacre]][[note]]which Creator/GeorgeRRMartin explicitedly noted as one of the bases for the Red Wedding[[/note]], and who was subsequently hounded by the fallout of it. Dalrymple, to his credit, was nonetheless a way more competent official than Walder Frey ever was, having been responsible for the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union Treaty of Union between Scotland and England]].
6th Aug '17 8:16:11 PM xXwindsofchangeXx
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* ReallyGetsAround: To the point where one could suspect he has more [[PunnyName Rivers]] running on ''top'' of The Twins than under it! [[labelnote:From the books...]]Rivers is the surname given to bastards in the Riverlands, of which Walder Frey has ''dozens''.[[/labelnote]]

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* ReallyGetsAround: To the point where one could suspect he has more [[PunnyName Rivers]] running on ''top'' of The Twins than under it! [[labelnote:From the books...]]Rivers is the surname given to bastards in the Riverlands, of which Walder Frey has ''dozens''.[[/labelnote]]''dozens''.
--> ''[Catelyn's] father had once said of Walder Frey that he was the only lord in the Seven Kingdoms who could field an army out of his breeches.''[[/labelnote]]
5th Aug '17 3:35:51 PM trixus
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* AdaptationalWimp: They are as a rule a bunch of incompetent and resentful weasels in the book but by adapting out all the more cunning Frey and wimpifying the remaining one it's even more blatant in the show. While their siege of Riverrun is a mess in the books they didn't just lose the castle to Blackfish who was never at the Red Wedding but they did set a perimeter.



%%* HateSink: ''Especially'' after the events of Red Wedding, he has officially joined the ranks of Joffrey and Ramsay.

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%%* * HateSink: ''Especially'' after the events of Red Wedding, he has officially joined the ranks of Joffrey and Ramsay.Ramsay. He cowardly murdered most of the more heroic character over petty revenge and is as crass as they come.
1st Aug '17 1:52:32 PM TrollBrutal
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* HateSink: ''Especially'' after the events of Red Wedding, he has officially joined the ranks of Joffrey and Ramsay.

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* %%* HateSink: ''Especially'' after the events of Red Wedding, he has officially joined the ranks of Joffrey and Ramsay.
1st Aug '17 1:48:16 PM Kookosbanaani
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* HateSink: ''Especially'' after the events of Red Wedding, he has officially joined the ranks of Joffrey and Ramsay.
1st Aug '17 11:47:50 AM randomtroper89
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** SelectiveObliviousness: Oh gods. Walder is ''deeply'' annoyed that everyone calls him a DirtyCoward, specifically resenting how Hoster Tully nicknamed him "the late Walder Frey" for only showing up to the Battle of the Trident after the battle ended. Lord Walder knows damn well that he ''intentionally'' arrived late, but still hypocritically thinks that ''he'' is the injured party for being on the receiving end of Hoster's ''entirely accurate'' criticism. Walder Frey thinks that Starks and Tullys ''deserved'' what he did to them, as some sort of righteous payback. Contrast with Roose Bolton, who at least fully accepts that what he did was a betrayal, but sees it as an example of IDidWhatIHadtoDo, because Robb was losing the war and the Boltons would have been wiped out by the Lannisters alongside them if they had stayed loyal.

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** SelectiveObliviousness: Oh gods. Walder is ''deeply'' annoyed that everyone calls him a DirtyCoward, specifically resenting how Hoster Tully nicknamed him "the late Walder Frey" for only showing up to the Battle of the Trident after the battle ended. Lord Walder knows damn well that he ''intentionally'' arrived late, but still hypocritically thinks that ''he'' is the injured party for being on the receiving end of Hoster's ''entirely accurate'' criticism. Walder Frey thinks that Starks and Tullys ''deserved'' what he did to them, as some sort of righteous payback. Contrast with Roose Bolton, who at least fully accepts that what he did was a betrayal, but sees it as an example of IDidWhatIHadtoDo, IDidWhatIHadToDo, because Robb was losing the war and the Boltons would have been wiped out by the Lannisters alongside them if they had stayed loyal.
30th Jul '17 9:09:33 PM Gregzilla
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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: A ''family wide'' example. Shortly after their patriarch is murdered by Arya, she has every single male member of their house poisoned during a feast for their crimes in the Red Wedding. A karmic end of for a family of treasonous degenerates]].

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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: A [[spoiler:A ''family wide'' example. Shortly after their patriarch is murdered by Arya, she has every single male member of their house poisoned during a feast for their crimes in the Red Wedding. A karmic end of for a family of treasonous degenerates]].degenerates.]]



* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler:Not only their head has his throat slit like the Stark matriarch, all of them are murdered during a feast just like the Red Wedding]].

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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler:Not Not only their head has his throat slit like the Stark matriarch, all [[spoiler:all of them are murdered during a feast just like the Red Wedding]].



* SuccessionCrisis: [[spoiler: With the death of Walder Frey and his two most prominent sons it's very unclear who is now head of House Frey, making the situation in the Riverlands even more chaotic]]. Simplified in Season 7 since [[spoiler: Arya effectively kills all the Freys of importance, effectively wiping the house out]].
** Actually, [[spoiler: Arya said she invited "all the Freys that are worth a damn" to the feast where she poisoned them: all of the ones who were directly involved with planning and carrying out the Red Wedding. She makes it a point on-screen to stop the female Freys from drinking the poisoned wine, and it's kind of implied that she didn't invite the various baby grandsons who weren't involved. If nothing else, rule would pass to Walder's female heirs, such as Roslin Frey or the others. So it seems there will be quite the succession crisis, but the TV version is mercifully condensing it to the background of the story.]]

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* SuccessionCrisis: [[spoiler: With the death of Walder Frey and his two most prominent sons it's very unclear who is now head of House Frey, making the situation in the Riverlands even more chaotic]]. Simplified in Season 7 since [[spoiler: Arya effectively kills all the Freys of importance, effectively wiping the house out]].
** Actually, [[spoiler: Arya said she invited "all the Freys that are worth a damn" to the feast where she poisoned them: all of the ones who were directly involved with planning and carrying out the Red Wedding. She makes it a point on-screen to stop the female Freys from drinking the poisoned wine, and it's kind of implied that she didn't invite the various baby grandsons who weren't involved. If nothing else, rule would pass to Walder's female heirs, such as Roslin Frey or the others. So it seems there will be quite the succession crisis, but the TV version is mercifully condensing it to the background of the story.]]
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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: As the last surviving conspirator of the Red Wedding, and easily the most repulsive one at that, no one will object to watching Arya slash his throat to let him slowly choke on his own blood.]]

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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler: As the last surviving conspirator of the Red Wedding, and easily the most repulsive one at that, no one will object to watching Arya slash his throat to let him slowly choke on his own blood.]]



* IAteWhat: In the Season 6 finale, [[spoiler:Arya feeds him a last meal consisting of a meat pie made out of his own sons and helpfully informs him of what (who) he just ate before slashing his throat. This form of payback is in reference to "The Rat Cook", a story Bran told in the episode following the Red Wedding, which involved a cook who murdered a prince, baked him into a pie, and fed him to the boy's unknowing father. The gods punished him by turning him into a monstrous rat who could only eat his own offspring. The reason they cursed him? Because he violated [[SacredHospitality Guest Right.]]]]

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* IAteWhat: In the Season 6 finale, [[spoiler:Arya Arya feeds him a last meal consisting of a meat pie made out of his own sons and helpfully informs him of what (who) he just ate before slashing his throat. This form of payback is in reference to "The Rat Cook", a story Bran told in the episode following the Red Wedding, which involved a cook who murdered a prince, baked him into a pie, and fed him to the boy's unknowing father. The gods punished him by turning him into a monstrous rat who could only eat his own offspring. The reason they cursed him? Because he violated [[SacredHospitality Guest Right.]]]]]]



* LaserGuidedKarma: His most heinous act was betraying the Starks at a wedding dinner. [[spoiler:In an act of true irony, he's killed in the middle of his dinner meal by Arya Stark in the ''exact same manner'' he had her mother killed [[note]]A slashed throat[[/note]]. For some extra irony, he's killed in the ''exact same dinner room'' he had the Starks killed in, and in the ''exact same spot'' he sat at when he gave the order.]]

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* LaserGuidedKarma: His most heinous act was betraying the Starks at a wedding dinner. [[spoiler:In In an act of true irony, he's killed in the middle of his dinner meal by Arya Stark in the ''exact ''[[SlashedThroat exact same manner'' manner]]'' he had her mother killed [[note]]A slashed throat[[/note]].killed. For some extra irony, he's killed in the ''exact same dinner room'' he had the Starks killed in, and in the ''exact same spot'' he sat at when he gave the order.]]



* MeaninglessVillainVictory: [[spoiler:Arya kills him before he can celebrate finally defeating House Tully.]]

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* MeaninglessVillainVictory: [[spoiler:Arya Arya kills him before he can celebrate finally defeating House Tully.]]



* OhCrap: [[spoiler:When he finds out he's been eating his sons, and especially when Arya reveals her identity to him.]]

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* OhCrap: [[spoiler:When When he finds out he's been eating his sons, and especially when Arya reveals her identity to him.]]



* SlashedThroat: [[spoiler:Arya slits his throat after feeding him meat pies made out of his sons.]]

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* SlashedThroat: [[spoiler:Arya Arya slits his throat after feeding him meat pies made out of his sons.]]



* VillainousGlutton: While not enormously fat, the first scene of Walder in an episode is often a cut to him [[JabbaTableManners eating in a disgustingly loud fashion]] while someone is addressing him. In fact, [[spoiler:he's done in by Arya while eating meat pies she made from the flesh of his two sons]].

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* VillainousGlutton: While not enormously fat, the first scene of Walder in an episode is often a cut to him [[JabbaTableManners eating in a disgustingly loud fashion]] while someone is addressing him. In fact, [[spoiler:he's he's done in by Arya while eating meat pies she made from the flesh of his two sons]].sons.



* WhosLaughingNow: In the Season 3 finale "Mhysa", he describes the Red Wedding as a payback for all the times the Starks and Tullys have looked down upon him or insulted him. In a minor bout of karmic payback, when he reappears in "Blood of my Blood", he's throwing a tantrum for Lame Lothar and Black Walder Rivers' [[spoiler:inability to find the Blackfish after the Red Wedding or prevent him from retaking Riverrun]], since now he believes everyone is still laughing at him.

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* WhosLaughingNow: In the Season 3 finale "Mhysa", he describes the Red Wedding as a payback for all the times the Starks and Tullys have looked down upon him or insulted him. In a minor bout of karmic payback, when he reappears in "Blood of my Blood", he's throwing a tantrum for Lame Lothar and Black Walder Rivers' [[spoiler:inability inability to find the Blackfish after the Red Wedding or prevent him from retaking Riverrun]], Riverrun, since now he believes everyone is still laughing at him.



* SparedByTheAdaptation: ''Possibly''. In the books, Stevron commanded the Frey levies that went south with Robb Stark, but he dies of wounds suffered at the Battle of Oxcross. On the show, there is no indication that he left the Twins. [[spoiler:Upon Walder's death, he presumably became the new lord of the Twins.]]

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: ''Possibly''. In the books, Stevron commanded the Frey levies that went south with Robb Stark, but he dies of wounds suffered at the Battle of Oxcross. On the show, there is no indication that he left the Twins. [[spoiler:Upon Upon Walder's death, he presumably became the new lord of the Twins.]]



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Did he die offscreen without mention? Was he at the Twins during the Red Wedding but simply not seen or present (thus possibly negating his TokenGoodTeammate status)? Was he just sent away before the event? The show never tells us, so it might be best to assume he suffered the same (or similar) fate as in the books until further notice. [[spoiler:If he is still alive in the show, then he is the new Lord of the Crossing after Walder's death.]]

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Did he die offscreen without mention? Was he at the Twins during the Red Wedding but simply not seen or present (thus possibly negating his TokenGoodTeammate status)? Was he just sent away before the event? The show never tells us, so it might be best to assume he suffered the same (or similar) fate as in the books until further notice. [[spoiler:If If he is still alive in the show, then he is the new Lord of the Crossing after Walder's death.]]



* ImAHumanitarian: [[spoiler: The victim of this thanks to Arya.]]

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* ImAHumanitarian: [[spoiler: The victim of this thanks to Arya.]]



** He and Lothar also replace Symond, Rhaegar, and Jared Frey as the victims of [[spoiler: Frey Pies.]]

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** He and Lothar also replace Symond, Rhaegar, and Jared Frey as the victims of [[spoiler: Frey Pies.]]



* IAteWhat: [[spoiler: He's the one being eaten.]]

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* IAteWhat: [[spoiler: He's the one being eaten.]]
26th Jul '17 1:05:28 PM TheDragonDemands
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**Actually, [[spoiler: Arya said she invited "all the Freys that are worth a damn" to the feast where she poisoned them: all of the ones who were directly involved with planning and carrying out the Red Wedding. She makes it a point on-screen to stop the female Freys from drinking the poisoned wine, and it's kind of implied that she didn't invite the various baby grandsons who weren't involved. If nothing else, rule would pass to Walder's female heirs, such as Roslin Frey or the others. So it seems there will be quite the succession crisis, but the TV version is mercifully condensing it to the background of the story.]]
20th Jul '17 12:06:53 PM EO01163
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* Everybody'sDead,Dave: Thanks to Arya killing Walder and all his sons and grandsons, House Frey is now gone, forever. Jaime even said all the Freys are dead. No one is going to be mourning their deaths.

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* Everybody'sDead,Dave: EverybodysDeadDave: Thanks to Arya killing Walder and all his sons and grandsons, House Frey is now gone, forever. Jaime even said all the Freys are dead. No one is going to be mourning their deaths.
20th Jul '17 12:05:56 PM EO01163
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* Everybody'sDead,Dave: Thanks to Arya killing Walder and all his sons and grandsons, House Frey is now gone, forever. Jaime even said all the Freys are dead. No one is going to be mourning their deaths.
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