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19th Jan '17 8:49:21 PM Give1Take2
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* InformedAttribute: While Aveline is ''supposed'' to be an extremely competent, efficient guard Captain... the player is never actually shown this. Aveline often nees to run to Hawke for help with issues that the guards can't handle on their own. She completely botches the investigation of [[spoiler: Quentin and the various missing/murderered women, which leads to Leandra's death]] and even dismisses the claims and tries to have Hawke convince the Templar investigating it to give up. She neglects to investigate the possible rape of an Elven woman by her own guardsmen. Criminal gangs run rampant in Kirkwall with the guards not even attempting to stop them. In fact, the only productive thing Aveline appears to do as guard captain is lower the guards' death rates (and even then, this is told to the player rather than shown, bolstering the case for this trope)

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* InformedAttribute: While Aveline is ''supposed'' to be an extremely competent, efficient guard Captain... the player is never actually shown this. Aveline often nees needs to run to Hawke for help with issues that the guards can't handle on their own. She completely botches the investigation of [[spoiler: Quentin and the various missing/murderered women, which leads to Leandra's death]] and even dismisses the claims and tries to have Hawke convince the Templar investigating it to give up. She neglects to investigate the possible rape of an Elven woman by her own guardsmen. Criminal gangs run rampant in Kirkwall with the guards not even attempting to stop them. In fact, the only productive thing Aveline appears to do as guard captain is lower the guards' death rates (and even then, this is told to the player rather than shown, bolstering the case for this trope)


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* SkewedPriorities: PlayedForDrama. When one of her own guardsmen is formally accused of ''raping'' an Elven woman she dismisses it as "rumors" that she'll look into eventually (and doesn't even temporarily dismiss him from duty or put him on probation as a sign of good faith), but when the brothers of the alleged victim get tired of waiting and kill him she ''immediately'' drops everything she's doing and cracks down on them first thing. [[SarcasmMode If only she was as prompt dealing with her own men as with civilians.]]
** Also, toward the end of Act 2 tensions between Kirkwall and the Qunari are reaching their boiling point, with open warfare being apparent and imminent for everyone not in a coma, yet Aveline decides it's much more important to grab Hawke to march up to the Arishok and ''demand'' they return a handful elven converts who're accused of killing a guard ''right now'', pissing off the already infuriated Qunari even further. Maybe better let this one slide to keep the peace, Avaline.
18th Jan '17 5:15:51 PM defciggy
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* BiTheWay

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* BiTheWayBiTheWay: He can be romanced by a Hawke of either gender, and also hooks up with Isabela if the player isn't romancing either of them.



* GayOption

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* GayOptionGayOption: One of two for a male Hawke.
17th Jan '17 11:09:53 PM Repo
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* InformedAttribute: While Aveline is ''supposed'' to be an extremely competent, efficient guard Captain... the player is never actually shown this. Aveline often nees to run to Hawke for help with issues that the guards can't handle on their own. She completely botches the investigation of [[spoiler: Quentin and the various missing/murderered women, which leads to Leandra's death]] and even dismisses the claims and tries to have Hawke convince the Templar investigating it to give up. She neglects to investigate the possible rape of an Elven woman by her own guardsmen. Criminal gangs run rampant in Kirkwall with the guards not even attempting to stop them. In fact, the only productive thing Aveline appears to do as guard captain is lower the guards' death rates (and even then, this is told to the player rather than shown, bolstering the case for this trope)
25th Dec '16 8:18:54 PM ADrago
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* LostForever: Unlike the other companions, his personal questline and romance can be completely derailed if the player doesn't use him in the right area at the right time.



* OptionalPartyMember: Hawke can only meet him by doing a side quest in Act I; fail to complete it and he's LostForever.

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* OptionalPartyMember: Hawke can only meet him by doing a side quest in Act I; fail to complete it and he's LostForever.{{Permanently Missable|Content}}.


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* PermanentlyMissableContent: Unlike the other companions, his personal questline and romance can be completely derailed if the player doesn't use him in the right area at the right time.
25th Dec '16 11:23:42 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* [[spoiler:ScrewThisImOuttaHere: If Hawke refuses to kill Anders, Sebastian ([[GenreSavvy knowing better than to attack Hawke]]) leaves the party and vows to later get revenge.]]

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* [[spoiler:ScrewThisImOuttaHere: If Hawke refuses to kill Anders, Sebastian ([[GenreSavvy knowing (knowing better than to attack Hawke]]) Hawke) leaves the party and vows to later get revenge.]]
20th Dec '16 2:52:36 AM Morgenthaler
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** Also a case of this with Hawke, especially a Snarky-Hawke. It may also have a case of BelligerentSexualTension subtext if Hawke flirts with her. If in a rivalry with Hawke, the most touching moment in their friendship comes right after Aveline [[BadAss beats the ever loving hell out of them.]]

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** Also a case of this with Hawke, especially a Snarky-Hawke. It may also have a case of BelligerentSexualTension subtext if Hawke flirts with her. If in a rivalry with Hawke, the most touching moment in their friendship comes right after Aveline [[BadAss beats the ever loving hell out of them.]]
14th Dec '16 2:48:42 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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** ''Legacy'' also reveals that she's been reading Anders' grimoire in the hope of finding "dirty spells" to "make things more exciting" between her and Hawke, if you romance her.

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** ''Legacy'' also reveals that she's been reading Anders' grimoire in the hope of finding "dirty spells" to "make things more exciting" between her and Hawke, if you they romance her.



** Yet she will pull out racial insults if Hawke is in a rivalry with her, such as if they refuse to give her [[spoiler: the arulin'holm to help her repair the mirror]] in Act II, [[spoiler:likely because you just hammered home every stereotype she heard growing up]].

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** Yet she will pull out racial insults if Hawke is in a rivalry with her, such as if they refuse to give her [[spoiler: the arulin'holm to help her repair the mirror]] in Act II, [[spoiler:likely because you Hawke just hammered home every stereotype she heard growing up]].



* FirstEpisodeSpoiler: Finding out that the seemingly-innocent {{Adorkable}} elf was a blood mage who has dealt with demons is a bit of a surprise, even if you're finding this out within fifteen minutes of when you first meet her.

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* FirstEpisodeSpoiler: Finding out that the seemingly-innocent {{Adorkable}} elf was a blood mage who has dealt with demons is a bit of a surprise, even if you're the player is finding this out within fifteen minutes of when you Hawke first meet meets her.



* HeroicBSOD: A small one happens if Hawke brings her along on the "Night Terrors" quest, where [[spoiler: she gives in to a Pride Demon's mind control and briefly turns on the party.]] She's pretty shaken up afterwards if you go visit her home.

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* HeroicBSOD: A small one happens if Hawke brings her along on the "Night Terrors" quest, where [[spoiler: she gives in to a Pride Demon's mind control and briefly turns on the party.]] She's pretty shaken up afterwards if you Hawke go visit her home.



'''Anders:''' ''[disgusted]'' Are you really that stupid?

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'''Anders:''' ''[disgusted]'' ''(disgusted)'' Are you really that stupid?



** Whether you are her rival or not, this is her reaction [[spoiler:after the Keeper reveals how the Pride Demon tricked her and she is forced to kill her]]. That said, given that the information on what was planned was [[spoiler: coming from a trapped Demon sundered from the Fade and now in full possession of a host]], it's really questionable how reliable it is. More so when you understand that [[spoiler: Demons tend to seek out powerful hosts in positions of authority]], both of which the Keeper had. So it seems more that [[spoiler: Audacity]] was just using the different views between the two of them to further drive a wedge so he could get his real target, [[spoiler: Marethari]].

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** Whether you are Hawke is her rival or not, this is her reaction [[spoiler:after the Keeper reveals how the Pride Demon tricked her and she is forced to kill her]]. That said, given that the information on what was planned was [[spoiler: coming from a trapped Demon sundered from the Fade and now in full possession of a host]], it's really questionable how reliable it is. More so when you the player understand that [[spoiler: Demons tend to seek out powerful hosts in positions of authority]], both of which the Keeper had. So it seems more that [[spoiler: Audacity]] was just using the different views between the two of them to further drive a wedge so he could get his real target, [[spoiler: Marethari]].



** HilariousInHindsight: If you had Sebastian and Merrill in your party, you may have heard Merrill call Sebastian out on his impractically "shiny armor".
* YouCantGoHomeAgain: Gets kicked out of the Dalish for the whole blood magic thing. Also, unless you make exactly the right choice during her Act III companion quest, [[spoiler:they'll attack, and she'll have to help you kill them]].

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** HilariousInHindsight: If you had the player has Sebastian and Merrill in your the party, you may have heard it is possible to hear Merrill call Sebastian out on his impractically "shiny armor".
* YouCantGoHomeAgain: Gets kicked out of the Dalish for the whole blood magic thing. Also, unless you the player make exactly the right choice during her Act III companion quest, [[spoiler:they'll attack, and she'll have to help you Hawke kill them]].



* BiTheWay: Implied. If you flirt with her and then successfully get her and Donnic together in Act II, she asks if Hawke ever thought about the two of them. [[LesYay The conversation does not change for Lady Hawkes]].

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* BiTheWay: Implied. If you flirt Hawke flirts with her and then successfully get her and Donnic together in Act II, she asks if Hawke ever thought about the two of them. [[LesYay The conversation does not change for Lady Hawkes]].



** InsaneTrollLogic: Eventually, her efforts to woo him get so bad that even when she does explain the reasoning behind her actions, Hawke can't argue directly with them because ''they make no sense''. You get the chance to call her out on it.

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** InsaneTrollLogic: Eventually, her efforts to woo him get so bad that even when she does explain the reasoning behind her actions, Hawke can't argue directly with them because ''they make no sense''. You get The player gets the chance to call her out on it.



** However, do not ''ever'' question whether she is going soft on the men under her command and coddling certain individuals (Donnic). When the Templars force you to investigate her on this in Act III, you set out to prove that Donnic is doing the same routes as the other men, if not more dangerous, and most of her men are fighting for their lives twice a week to keep Kirkwall safe.

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** However, do not ''ever'' question whether she is going soft on the men under her command and coddling certain individuals (Donnic). When the Templars force you Hawke to investigate her on this in Act III, you they set out to prove that Donnic is doing the same routes as the other men, if not more dangerous, and most of her men are fighting for their lives twice a week to keep Kirkwall safe.



* DrillSergeantNasty: Borderline; she trains with each guard individually and makes certain that they know what they are doing. They certainly think that it's TrainingFromHell. If you've been succeeding at her personal quests, she bonds with each of the guards as well, which takes the edge off of it. If not, the guards become more efficient, but Aveline herself will not be well-liked.

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* DrillSergeantNasty: Borderline; she trains with each guard individually and makes certain that they know what they are doing. They certainly think that it's TrainingFromHell. If you've Hawke has been succeeding at her personal quests, she bonds with each of the guards as well, which takes the edge off of it. If not, the guards become more efficient, but Aveline herself will not be well-liked.



--> Hawke: You don't want me as sour and dour as you. You need a counterpoint.

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--> Hawke: -->'''Hawke:''' You don't want me as sour and dour as you. You need a counterpoint.



* HollywoodAtheist: Averted; Aveline has no issue with the Chantry or those who believe in the Maker (she even married a Templar), but she doesn't seem to believe herself. She says that she thinks the Chant is lovely, but perhaps that is all it needs to be. She even nets Friendship points if you're dismissive to the Grand Cleric.
** However, her atheism is a bit ambiguous as she has the most Maker-related combat lines of your party, save perhaps Sebastian. She might just be a believer who disagrees with how the Chantry is run. Or perhaps living with Wesley has just rubbed off on her.
* {{Hypocrite}}: Nothing major, but ask her about Wesley when you meet up with her the first time in Act I and she'll defensively state that she doesn't want to be coddled. Understandable, but kind of jarring when she admitted just a few minutes earlier that she is spying on Hawke to make sure they stay out of trouble, and has no intention of stopping even if Hawke tells her to.

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* HollywoodAtheist: Averted; Aveline has no issue with the Chantry or those who believe in the Maker (she even married a Templar), but she doesn't seem to believe herself. She says that she thinks the Chant is lovely, but perhaps that is all it needs to be. She even nets Friendship points if you're Hawke acts dismissive to the Grand Cleric.
** However, her atheism is a bit ambiguous as she has the most Maker-related combat lines of your the party, save perhaps Sebastian. She might just be a believer who disagrees with how the Chantry is run. Or perhaps living with Wesley has just rubbed off on her.
* {{Hypocrite}}: Nothing major, but ask her about Wesley when you Hawke meet up with her the first time in Act I and she'll defensively state that she doesn't want to be coddled. Understandable, but kind of jarring when she admitted just a few minutes earlier that she is spying on Hawke to make sure they stay out of trouble, and has no intention of stopping even if Hawke tells her to.



* MarriedToTheJob: Apparently the reason she's having such difficulty with romancing Donnic. Even though she was once married, she's thrown herself into her work so much, she's forgotten how ''not'' to be a guard for a while. [[spoiler:If you don't help her out on her sidequests, she never learns to relax and the pressure eventually pushes her to leave town.]]

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* MarriedToTheJob: Apparently the reason she's having such difficulty with romancing Donnic. Even though she was once married, she's thrown herself into her work so much, she's forgotten how ''not'' to be a guard for a while. [[spoiler:If you Hawke don't help her out on her sidequests, she never learns to relax and the pressure eventually pushes her to leave town.]]



--->'''Isabela:''' How's marriage been treating you, big girl?
--->'''Aveline:''' It's been good. No, great. I'd forgotten what it was like to...
--->'''Isabela:''' Be flipped ass over tits and hammered like a bent nail?
--->'''Aveline:''' To. Be. Loved.
--->'''Isabela:''' Oh. Right, of course.
--->'''Aveline:''' ''(coyly)'' Not that I'm complaining about the other thing.

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--->'''Isabela:''' How's marriage been treating you, big girl?
--->'''Aveline:'''
girl?\\
'''Aveline:'''
It's been good. No, great. I'd forgotten what it was like to...
--->'''Isabela:'''
to...\\
'''Isabela:'''
Be flipped ass over tits and hammered like a bent nail?
--->'''Aveline:'''
nail?\\
'''Aveline:'''
To. Be. Loved.
--->'''Isabela:'''
Loved.\\
'''Isabela:'''
Oh. Right, of course.
--->'''Aveline:'''
course.\\
'''Aveline:'''
''(coyly)'' Not that I'm complaining about the other thing.



* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: [[spoiler:Aveline invokes this when Arishok says he must take Isabela back along with the book she stole: "Oh, no. If anyone's going to kick her ass, it's me." She gives Friendship points if you go to bat for Isabela against Arishok, and Rivalry points if you hand Isabela over.]]

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* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: [[spoiler:Aveline invokes this when Arishok says he must take Isabela back along with the book she stole: "Oh, no. If anyone's going to kick her ass, it's me." She gives Friendship points if you go Hawke goes to bat for Isabela against Arishok, and Rivalry points if you they hand Isabela over.]]



* SignificantGreenEyedRedhead: The first permanent companion character you meet, as well as one of the most important ones after becoming captain of the guard.

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* SignificantGreenEyedRedhead: The first permanent companion character you meet, Hawke meets, as well as one of the most important ones after becoming captain of the guard.



** Made especially clear by a line she can say when drinks a health potion. You'd obviously be using this when she's dying, and she ''still'' might say:

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** Made especially clear by a line she can say when drinks a health potion. You'd The player would obviously be using this when she's dying, and she ''still'' might say:



* ToBeLawfulOrGood: Establishes herself as being on the "Good" side of things at all times early in Act I, despite having only just taken the job. She remains lawful only so long as it is useful in her quest to do good. When the two conflict, there is never a moment's hesitation in her mind. It's also why she has no problems with Hawke if you play as a more ChaoticGood character.

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* ToBeLawfulOrGood: Establishes herself as being on the "Good" side of things at all times early in Act I, despite having only just taken the job. She remains lawful only so long as it is useful in her quest to do good. When the two conflict, there is never a moment's hesitation in her mind. It's also why she has no problems with Hawke if you play the player acts as a more ChaoticGood character.



** Also a case of this with Hawke, especially a Snarky-Hawke. It may also have a case of BelligerentSexualTension subtext if you flirt with her. If in a rivalry with Hawke, the most touching moment in their friendship comes right after Aveline [[BadAss beats the ever loving hell out of them.]]

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** Also a case of this with Hawke, especially a Snarky-Hawke. It may also have a case of BelligerentSexualTension subtext if you flirt Hawke flirts with her. If in a rivalry with Hawke, the most touching moment in their friendship comes right after Aveline [[BadAss beats the ever loving hell out of them.]]



* WidowWoman: Ser Wesley, her Templar husband, dies shortly after meeting Hawke due to darkspawn taint. Either you or Aveline can MercyKill him. She can eventually remarry, though.

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* WidowWoman: Ser Wesley, her Templar husband, dies shortly after meeting Hawke due to darkspawn taint. Either you Hawke or Aveline can MercyKill him. She can eventually remarry, though.



--> '''Aveline''': You know I'm a guard, why are you asking?\\

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--> '''Aveline''': -->'''Aveline''': You know I'm a guard, why are you asking?\\



** ... Although if you keep him away from people who push his buttons, he makes his share of jokes.

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** ... Although if you keep Hawke keeps him away from people who push his buttons, he makes his share of jokes.



** If you manage to maintain a high friendship, it unlocks additional lines that sound [[SugarAndIcePersonality much warmer than his usual tone of voice]], including "Yes, my friend?" and "Always a pleasure." The friendship branch of his personal specialization tree also mentions that "Fenris is inspired by your unexpected support."
* DespairEventHorizon: If you choose to [[spoiler:betray Fenris and give him back to Danarius. Your betrayal so utterly breaks his spirit and his faith in freedom and friendship, he just gives up without a fight. He doesn't even have the strength to show anger at you about it. Later, you get a letter from Danarius thanking you, telling you that Fenris has been memory-wiped again and is now perfectly obedient.]]

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** If you manage Hawke manages to maintain a high friendship, it unlocks additional lines that sound [[SugarAndIcePersonality much warmer than his usual tone of voice]], including "Yes, my friend?" and "Always a pleasure." The friendship branch of his personal specialization tree also mentions that "Fenris is inspired by your unexpected support."
* DespairEventHorizon: If you choose the player chooses to [[spoiler:betray Fenris and give him back to Danarius. Your [[EtTuBrute Hawke's betrayal so utterly breaks his spirit and his faith in freedom and friendship, he just gives up without a fight.fight]]. He doesn't even have the strength to show anger at you about it. Later, you get Hawke gets a letter from Danarius thanking you, them, telling you them that Fenris has been memory-wiped again and is now perfectly obedient.]]



* TheEeyore: Probably the most pessimistic of the group, [[NeverLiveItDown though not as much as they'd have you believe]]. Even in his lighter moments, he's generally dry and rather bleak. By the end of the game, he's ''starting'' to grow out of it.

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* TheEeyore: Probably the most pessimistic of the group, [[NeverLiveItDown though not as much as they'd have you Hawke believe]]. Even in his lighter moments, he's generally dry and rather bleak. By the end of the game, he's ''starting'' to grow out of it.



** Actually, of particular note of this trope is Anders. Unlike Merrill, the two rarely have a conversation that doesn't end verging on violence. [[spoiler: Even during his Act III quest, Anders is the only one to give Friendship points for selling him out to Danarius. Contrast that with Merrill being on the verge of tears.]] Even if you don't [[spoiler: give Fenris back to Danarius]], he'll call Fenris a "bloody hypocrite" and says he's just jealous when our dark and broody elf learns [[spoiler: his sister is a mage,]] even though Fenris likely didn't have any idea.

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** Actually, of particular note of this trope is Anders. Unlike Merrill, the two rarely have a conversation that doesn't end verging on violence. [[spoiler: Even during his Act III quest, Anders is the only one to give Friendship points for selling him out to Danarius. Contrast that with Merrill being on the verge of tears.]] Even if you the player don't decide to [[spoiler: give Fenris back to Danarius]], he'll call Fenris a "bloody hypocrite" and says he's just jealous when our dark and broody elf learns [[spoiler: his sister is a mage,]] even though Fenris likely didn't have any idea.



** He often snaps at Merrill because she's a (rather naive) Blood Mage, leading to some [[{{Jerkass}} nasty]] moments, especially after her personal quests. But if you pay attention to some of their conversations, [[GreenEyedMonster his reasons]] become clear:

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** He often snaps at Merrill because she's a (rather naive) Blood Mage, leading to some [[{{Jerkass}} nasty]] moments, especially after her personal quests. But if you pay the player pays attention to some of their conversations, [[GreenEyedMonster his reasons]] become clear:



* GetOut: [[spoiler: If you convince him to spare his sister, he simply tells her to get out of his sight. She does, though not without dropping a bombshell about how he got his markings.]]

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* GetOut: [[spoiler: If you convince Hawke convinces him to spare his sister, he simply tells her to get out of his sight. She does, though not without dropping a bombshell about how he got his markings.]]



* ICantDoThisByMyself: From the moment you meet him, he'll ask for your help using pretty much these exact words. Comes up in his later personal quests as well.

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* ICantDoThisByMyself: From the moment you meet Hawke meets him, he'll ask for your their help using pretty much these exact words. Comes up in his later personal quests as well.



*** This is even present if you only pursue a Friendship with him as a mage. At the end of his first Questioning Beliefs, he will toast Hawke with a happy smile on his face, stating, "Here's to you, Hawke. A finer mage, I have never met." Considering that he seems to hate ''every other mage'' (sans Bethany), this says a lot.

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*** This is even present if you Hawke only pursue a Friendship with him as a mage. At the end of his first Questioning Beliefs, he will toast Hawke with a happy smile on his face, stating, "Here's to you, Hawke. A finer mage, I have never met." Considering that he seems to hate ''every other mage'' (sans Bethany), this says a lot.



** JerkWithAHeartOfGold: While he does have a searing hatred of mages (although he has respect for ones he deem "stable" like Mage!Hawke and Bethany), he's ultimately just a bit cranky and gradually becomes a pretty likable guy if you starting maxing out his friend meter. He even starts playing cards once a week with Varric and Guardsman Donnic.

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** JerkWithAHeartOfGold: While he does have a searing hatred of mages (although he has respect for ones he deem "stable" like Mage!Hawke and Bethany), he's ultimately just a bit cranky and gradually becomes a pretty likable guy if you the player starting maxing out his friend meter. He even starts playing cards once a week with Varric and Guardsman Donnic.



** He approves of [[DealWithTheDevil dealing with a demon]] during "Night Terrors," [[spoiler:dooming an innocent to possession in the process and risking the lives of everyone around him]], as long as Anders is in the party - because you'll have to fight him when Justice/Vengeance (the dominant personality in the Fade) objects.

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** He approves of [[DealWithTheDevil dealing with a demon]] during "Night Terrors," [[spoiler:dooming an innocent to possession in the process and risking the lives of everyone around him]], as long as Anders is in the party - because you'll Hawke will have to fight him when Justice/Vengeance (the dominant personality in the Fade) objects.



* LostForever: Unlike the other companions, his personal questline and romance can be completely derailed if you don't use him in the right area at the right time.

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* LostForever: Unlike the other companions, his personal questline and romance can be completely derailed if you don't the player doesn't use him in the right area at the right time.



* {{Omniglot}}: He speaks Tevene, the common tongue (the language of the Dwarves, Ferelden, and the Free Marches), and picked up Qunlat by listening to the Qunari (though Tallis thinks his accent needs work). It's impressive for an amnesiac who can't read when you first meet.

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* {{Omniglot}}: He speaks Tevene, the common tongue (the language of the Dwarves, Ferelden, and the Free Marches), and picked up Qunlat by listening to the Qunari (though Tallis thinks his accent needs work). It's impressive for an amnesiac who can't read when you Hawke first meet.meets him.



* OptionalPartyMember: You can only meet him by doing a side quest in Act I; fail to complete it and he's LostForever.

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* OptionalPartyMember: You Hawke can only meet him by doing a side quest in Act I; fail to complete it and he's LostForever.



* PeekABangs: Camera angles and his tendency to duck his head during some emotionally-charged moments mean his hair sometimes covers his eyes, which emphasizes his vulnerability (or {{Wangst}}, depending on how sympathetic you find him at the moment).

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* PeekABangs: Camera angles and his tendency to duck his head during some emotionally-charged moments mean his hair sometimes covers his eyes, which emphasizes his vulnerability (or {{Wangst}}, depending on how sympathetic you find the player finds him at the moment).



** He gets several other moments, like during the quest "A Bitter Pill," when he [[spoiler:shows genuine concern and sympathy for the elven slave Orana and gets angry if you decide to take her as your slave]]. There are also many moments between him and [[spoiler:Hawke, especially if Hawke is in a friendly romance with him, or are at least friends, even if Hawke is a mage. Most of them are sweet enough to qualify as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming]].

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** He gets several other moments, like during the quest "A Bitter Pill," when he [[spoiler:shows genuine concern and sympathy for the elven slave Orana and gets angry if you Hawke decide to take her as your their slave]]. There are also many moments between him and [[spoiler:Hawke, especially if Hawke is in a friendly romance with him, or are at least friends, even if Hawke is a mage. Most of them are sweet enough to qualify as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming]].



* BigNo: [[spoiler: He gives a good one if he's in your party when Anders blows up the Chantry.]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37eiBVOWtFM Even parodied.]]

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* BigNo: [[spoiler: He gives a good one if he's in your the party when Anders blows up the Chantry.]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37eiBVOWtFM Even parodied.]]



* ConflictingLoyalty: He is torn between keeping his vows to the Chantry and his desire to reclaim his family's throne. You can encourage him either way. And no matter what choice has makes in the end, he will decide not to pursue it until the main plot is resolved and Hawke no longer needs his loyalty.

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* ConflictingLoyalty: He is torn between keeping his vows to the Chantry and his desire to reclaim his family's throne. You The player can encourage him either way. And no matter what choice has makes in the end, he will decide not to pursue it until the main plot is resolved and Hawke no longer needs his loyalty.



'''Sebastian''': ''[dryly]'' Only if you're lucky.\\
'''Varric''': ''[sighs]'' Choir Boy, suddenly your life makes much more sense to me.

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'''Sebastian''': ''[dryly]'' ''(dryly)'' Only if you're lucky.\\
'''Varric''': ''[sighs]'' ''(sighs)'' Choir Boy, suddenly your life makes much more sense to me.



* FaceHeelTurn: In ''Inquisition'', if you let Anders live in the previous game, Sebastian follows through on his threat of having Starkhaven wage war on Kirkwall.

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* FaceHeelTurn: In ''Inquisition'', if you Hawke let Anders live in the previous game, Sebastian follows through on his threat of having Starkhaven wage war on Kirkwall.



* {{Hypocrite}}: After spending most of the game letting go of his bitterness, both at his family and their murderers, and scolding other party members for letting revenge take over their lives, he swears [[spoiler: to build up an army and promises to kill everybody in Kirkwall]] if you spare [[spoiler: Anders, to avenge Elthina. A pacifist. Who previously refused to leave the city specifically to protect the people of the city. And who had ''consistently urged him not to seek revenge''.]] DramaticallyMissingThePoint, little prince...

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* {{Hypocrite}}: After spending most of the game letting go of his bitterness, both at his family and their murderers, and scolding other party members for letting revenge take over their lives, he swears [[spoiler: to build up an army and promises to kill everybody in Kirkwall]] if you spare Hawke spares [[spoiler: Anders, to avenge Elthina. A pacifist. Who previously refused to leave the city specifically to protect the people of the city. And who had ''consistently urged him not to seek revenge''.]] DramaticallyMissingThePoint, little prince...



* [[spoiler: RedemptionFailure: What happens if you let Anders live, especially if you were on the Friendship route and he'd decided to stay in Kirkwall.]]

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* [[spoiler: RedemptionFailure: What happens if you let Hawke lets Anders live, especially if you they were on the Friendship route and he'd decided to stay in Kirkwall.]]



* RevengeBeforeReason: Played with. When you first meet him, he is outraged by his family's murder, but is unable to do anything about it except ask you to kill the mercenaries responsible. After a TimeSkip, he's calmed down considerably and is much more hesitant to take vengeance, due to the revelation that the murders were ordered by old friends of his and his own worries that he seeks justice for the wrong reasons.

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* RevengeBeforeReason: Played with. When you Hawke first meet him, he is outraged by his family's murder, but is unable to do anything about it except ask you them to kill the mercenaries responsible. After a TimeSkip, he's calmed down considerably and is much more hesitant to take vengeance, due to the revelation that the murders were ordered by old friends of his and his own worries that he seeks justice for the wrong reasons.



%%* ShutUpHannibal: In his Act II companion quest, [[spoiler:if you don't do this to Allure, he will.]]

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%%* ShutUpHannibal: In his Act II companion quest, [[spoiler:if you Hawke don't do this to Allure, he will.]]



* TookALevelInJerkass: If you [[spoiler: don't kill Anders]], he becomes a tyrant hell-bent on conquering Kirkwall.

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* TookALevelInJerkass: If you Hawke [[spoiler: don't kill Anders]], he becomes a tyrant hell-bent on conquering Kirkwall.



** Subverted as he pledges his eternal gratitude to Hawke in Act I for helping him gain retribution against the Flint Company Mercenaries who murdered his parents, and for later aiding him in confronting Lady Harriman in Act II and finding his [[AncestralWeapon grandfather's bow]]. However, should you spare [[spoiler: Anders]] at the end of Act III, he will not hesitate to turn on Hawke, leave the party, and [[spoiler: [[RevengeBeforeReason vow to raise an army]] to [[DisproportionateRetribution burn Kirkwall to the ground]].]]

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** Subverted as he pledges his eternal gratitude to Hawke in Act I for helping him gain retribution against the Flint Company Mercenaries who murdered his parents, and for later aiding him in confronting Lady Harriman in Act II and finding his [[AncestralWeapon grandfather's bow]]. However, should you Hawke spare [[spoiler: Anders]] at the end of Act III, he will not hesitate to turn on Hawke, leave the party, and [[spoiler: [[RevengeBeforeReason vow to raise an army]] to [[DisproportionateRetribution burn Kirkwall to the ground]].]]



* TheUnfought: [[spoiler:In ''Inquisition'', if Anders is alive and you decide to side with Aveline. Since the quest is a War Table operation, you never actually fight Sebastian himself, only being told of the battle and its aftermath from Cullen's report.]]

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* TheUnfought: [[spoiler:In ''Inquisition'', if Anders is alive and you decide the player decides to side with Aveline. Since the quest is a War Table operation, you Hawke never actually fight Sebastian himself, only being told of the battle and its aftermath from Cullen's report.]]



* WeUsedToBeFriends: He and Aveline are friendly, but if you [[spoiler: don't kill Anders]], they end up fighting a war with each other over the city of Kirkwall.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: He and Aveline are friendly, but if you Hawke [[spoiler: don't kill Anders]], they end up fighting a war with each other over the city of Kirkwall.



* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Family]]: When he's first introduced, he's looking for the mercenaries who murdered his family (and in a later quest, the person who hired them). [[spoiler: [[{{Bookends}} Bookended]] when Anders blows up the Chantry, killing everyone inside, including Sebastian's surrogate mother Elthina. If you decide to let Anders live, Sebastian leaves the party and [[ThisMeansWar swears revenge]].]]

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* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Family]]: When he's first introduced, he's looking for the mercenaries who murdered his family (and in a later quest, the person who hired them). [[spoiler: [[{{Bookends}} Bookended]] when Anders blows up the Chantry, killing everyone inside, including Sebastian's surrogate mother Elthina. If you the player decide to let Anders live, Sebastian leaves the party and [[ThisMeansWar swears revenge]].]]
14th Dec '16 2:29:47 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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** When you're helping Aveline with Donnic.

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** When you're Hawke is helping Aveline with Donnic.
27th Nov '16 5:29:03 PM LentilSandEater
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* ByronicHero: Second only to Anders in her tragic character arc. She is clever, emotional and willing to use forbidden magic and be shunned by everyone in order to restore the mirror and help her people.


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* ByronicHero: Second only to Anders in her tragic character arc. She is clever, emotional and willing to use forbidden magic and be shunned by everyone in order to restore the mirror and help her people. Also like Anders, she is very proud and refuses to listen to warnings, feeling she is already taking enough precautions.
27th Nov '16 5:20:49 PM LentilSandEater
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* ByronicHero: Second only to Anders in her tragic character arc. She is clever, emotional and willing to use forbidden magic and be shunned by everyone in order to restore the mirror and help her people.



** She occasionally demonstrates these qualities, although they largely disappear after Act I. This has led some [[WildMassGuessing to speculate]] her CloudCuckoolander tendencies are an inadvertent side-effect of her use of BloodMagic to restore the Eluvian.
** Her avoidant personality traits in the second game could easily stem from or be exaggerated by her being shunned by her people.
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