History Characters / DieHard

17th Jan '17 4:05:08 PM Taskmaster123
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* TooDumbToLive: Well, when you ''do'' have a chance to kill someone, don't hesitate...
6th Jan '17 12:44:29 PM Statzkeen
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* NonActionGuy: While Matt is a bit of a wimp when it comes to fighting, he knows all the hacker tricks [=McClane=] needs to defeat Gabriel.

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* NonActionGuy: While Matt is a bit of a wimp isn't very accomplished when it comes to fighting, he knows all the hacker tricks [=McClane=] needs to defeat Gabriel.
26th Dec '16 8:01:27 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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-->'''Matt Farrell:''' Then why you doing this?
-->'''John [=McClane=]:''' [[SamaritanSyndrome Because there's nobody else to do it right now]], that's why. Believe me, if there were somebody else to do it, I'd let them do it, but there's not. So we're doing it.

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-->'''Matt Farrell:''' Then why you doing this?
-->'''John
this?\\
'''John
[=McClane=]:''' [[SamaritanSyndrome Because there's nobody else to do it right now]], that's why. Believe me, if there were somebody else to do it, I'd let them do it, but there's not. So we're doing it.



* MutilationConga: It seems like each movie is just an excuse to put [=McClane=] through one of these. In the first movie alone, he gets beaten up, falls down a flight of stairs, runs over broken glass barefoot, gets beaten up again, is shot in the shoulder, jumps off a roof with a firehose tied around his waist, crashes through a window, almost gets dragged out of a window by a fire hose, and jumps into a water fountain to avoid an exploding elevator. He's fine by the next Christmas.

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* MutilationConga: It seems like each movie is just an excuse to put [=McClane=] through one of these. In the first movie alone, he gets beaten up, falls down a flight of stairs, runs over broken glass barefoot, gets beaten up again, is shot in the shoulder, jumps off a roof with a firehose tied around his waist, crashes through a window, almost gets dragged back out of a the window by a the fire hose, and jumps into a water fountain to avoid an exploding elevator. He's fine by the next Christmas.



--> '''Simon''': John. In the back of the truck you are driving, there is $13 billion worth in gold bullion. I wonder if a deal would be out of the question?
-->'''John''': Yeah, I got a deal for you, crawl out from under that rock you hiding under and I'll drive this truck up your ass.

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--> '''Simon''': John. In the back of the truck you are driving, there is $13 billion worth in gold bullion. I wonder if a deal would be out of the question?
-->'''John''':
question?\\
'''John''':
Yeah, I got a deal for you, crawl out from under that rock you hiding under and I'll drive this truck up your ass.


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* TheSnarkKnight: A really good snarker, and a lot of it is at himself. He fits.
25th Dec '16 10:24:40 AM MM_Crusader
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* CarFu: In the fourth movie, he used a car to destroy a helicopter.



* HeroicSelfDeprecation: In the fourth movie, he explains that despite his heroic deeds in the first three movies, his life is a wreck, he's divorced with his wife and his children have little respect for him.



* UnderestimatingBadassery: Each time he throws something at McClane, he believes the cop would not survive.

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* UnderestimatingBadassery: Each time he throws something at McClane, [=McClane=], he believes the cop would not survive.survive it. Even at the beginning he thinks he can bribe John into killing Farrell.
25th Dec '16 10:15:39 AM MM_Crusader
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* PapaWolf: Despite his strained relationship with both his children, he would go to great lengths to save them.




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* UnderestimatingBadassery: Each time he throws something at McClane, he believes the cop would not survive.
* VillainousBreakdown: After Mai's death, he started to lose his cool.
2nd Dec '16 10:26:18 PM Michael_McManus
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** Humorously, the quote is actually "Alexander of Macedon, who, upon hearing that there were other worlds, wept that he had not yet conquered one", which is more accurate to his fate and hints to more posturing.

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** Humorously, the quote is actually "Alexander of Macedon, who, upon hearing that there were other worlds, wept that he had not yet conquered one", which is more accurate to his fate and hints to more posturing.



* [[spoiler: DisneyVillainDeath: An iconic non-Disney example]].

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* [[spoiler: DisneyVillainDeath: An iconic non-Disney example]].example.



%%* BoomHeadshot
* DrugsAreBad: Heís seen snorting cocaine at least twice. [[spoiler: The last is when he decides to negotiate with Hans. [[BoomHeadshot And we know the rest]].]]
* {{Foil}}: To John. He too is interested in Holly, while being incredibly sleazy about it while John is more caucious. [[WrongGenreSavvy He also thinks that the villains]] [[spoiler: actually are terrorists]] and he's the one able to defure the situation while John is only making the situation worse. John on the other hand, [[GenreSavvy knows exactly what he is and what the villains are]].
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: One could argue he was trying to help his co-workers by getting John to surrender. [[spoiler: Still didn't end well]].

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%%* BoomHeadshot
* BoomHeadshot: Courtesy of Hans.
* DrugsAreBad: Heís seen snorting cocaine at least twice. [[spoiler: The last is when he decides to negotiate with Hans. [[BoomHeadshot And we know the rest]].]]
It doesn't end well]].
* {{Foil}}: To John. He too is interested in Holly, while being He's after Holly and incredibly sleazy about it while John is more caucious. awkwardly trying to salvage his marriage. [[WrongGenreSavvy He also thinks that the villains]] [[spoiler: actually are terrorists]] and he's the one able to defure defuse the situation while John is only making the situation worse. John on the other hand, [[GenreSavvy knows exactly what he is and what the villains are]].
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: One could argue he was trying to help his co-workers by getting John to surrender. [[spoiler: Still didn't end well]].well.



* SacrificialLion[=/=]ShooOutTheClowns: After his death, the film becomes less humorous and a lot more tense.



* [[spoiler: TooDumbToLive: Yes, go to the dangerous terrorist leader who isnít above casually executing hostages and try to sell out the guy you just met earlier who happens to be far more GenreSavvy on how hostage situations works]].
* WrongGenreSavvy: He thinks he can negotiate with the BigBad [[spoiler: (thinking he's a terrorist instead of pretending to be as such)]] and that John is a pesky wannabe hero making the situation worse.

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* [[spoiler: TooDumbToLive: Yes, go to the dangerous terrorist leader who isnít above casually executing hostages and try to sell out the guy you just met earlier who happens to be far more GenreSavvy on how hostage situations works]].
works.
* WrongGenreSavvy: He thinks he can negotiate with the BigBad [[spoiler: (thinking he's a terrorist instead of pretending to be as such)]] such) and that John is a pesky wannabe hero making the situation worse.
2nd Dec '16 10:12:57 PM Michael_McManus
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* ManOfWealthAndTaste: His team of henchmen are all extremely well-dressed, but he takes it up a notch with a double-breasted suit & tie.
* MasterActor: When he encounters [=McClane=] while checking the explosives on the roof, he convincingly acts the part of an escaped hostage, even faking an American accent. Lampshaded when [=McClane=] says he could've been on TV.
* NearVillainVictory: Apart from a few hiccups, his heist ''almost'' goes to plan [[spoiler: if not for [=McClane=] chasing the hostages downstairs from the roof.]]
* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: Lampshaded, he went to school in England.
** Which makes a lot of sense. We see later that he can do a spot on American accent, which shows that he has a talent for accents and English. As he studied in England, he probably took on a perfect English, the parts of German getting through is the fact that he has been working with a large group of fellow Germans for a while now.

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* ManOfWealthAndTaste: His team of henchmen are all extremely well-dressed, but he takes it up a notch with a double-breasted suit & tie.
* MajorInjuryUnderreaction: His response to being shot and falling through a sheet of glass is mild annoyance. Becomes OhCrap when he's dropped 30+ storeys to his death.
* MasterActor: When he encounters [=McClane=] while checking the explosives on the roof, he convincingly acts the part of an escaped hostage, even faking an American accent. Lampshaded when
** Subverted - [[spoiler:
[=McClane=] says he could've been on TV.
* NearVillainVictory: Apart from a few hiccups, his heist ''almost'' goes to plan [[spoiler: if not for [=McClane=] chasing the hostages downstairs from the roof.
wasn't fooled and gave him an unloaded gun.]]
* NearVillainVictory: Apart from a few hiccups, his heist ''almost'' goes to plan [[spoiler: until [=McClane=] chases the hostages downstairs from the roof.]]
* TheNicknamer: Calls [=McClane=] "Mr Cowboy" until he learns his real name.
* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: Lampshaded, Lampshaded - he went to school in England.
** Which makes a lot of sense. We see later that he can do a spot on American accent, which shows that he has a talent for accents and English. As he studied in
England, he probably took on a perfect English, the parts of German getting through is the fact that he has been working with a large group of fellow Germans for a while now.so his accent must have localized.
23rd Nov '16 9:23:27 PM Michael_McManus
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* ManOfWealthAndTaste: He's the only bad guy in the movie to wear a suit.

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* ManOfWealthAndTaste: He's the only bad guy in the movie to wear His team of henchmen are all extremely well-dressed, but he takes it up a suit.notch with a double-breasted suit & tie.
6th Nov '16 1:40:31 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/HansGruber_8969.jpg]]



[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/HansGruber_8969.jpg]]



!!Joe Takagi

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!!Joe Takagi
!!Joseph Yoshinobu "Joe" Takagi




President of Nakatomi Trading.

--> '''Played By:''' James Shigeta

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\n President of Nakatomi Trading.\n\n--> '''Played -->'''Played By:''' James Shigeta
Shigeta

President of Nakatomi Trading.



* OneSteveLimit: Played for laughs. "Johnson and Johnson, no relation". Rather amusing given that one is white and the other is black.

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* OneSteveLimit: Played for laughs.A PlayedForLaughs {{aver|tedTrope}}sion. "Johnson and Johnson, no relation". Rather amusing given that one is white and the other is black.
8th Oct '16 8:05:34 PM DustSnitch
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* {{Badass}}: The essence of the character. What made the ''Die Hard'' series stand out over other action films, especially the ones from the 1980s, was that [=McClane=] is very vulnerable. [[spoiler:Just watch his reactions with Hans, especially when he tries to convince Ellis to say they didn't know each other just to save Ellis' life in the first movie, or trying his best to signal the plane that Stuart was gonna crash.]] He could also barely fight when badly hurt, and had to rely on hiding and [[CombatPragmatist dirty tactics]] to overcome his enemies and stay alive.



* SmokingIsCool: He smokes a pack by himself in the first film, which takes place over the course of a few hours. He's also a grade A BadAss.

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* SmokingIsCool: He smokes a pack by himself in the first film, which takes place over the course of a few hours. He's also a grade A BadAss.a badass.



%%* {{Badass}}



* {{Badass}}: Fights [=McClane=] on even footing.



* EvilCounterpart: Can be seen as one to John. Both are {{Badass}} {{Determinator}}s who are MadeOfIron who would do anything for their loved ones.

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* EvilCounterpart: Can be seen as one to John. Both are {{Badass}} {{Determinator}}s who are MadeOfIron who would do anything for their loved ones.



* {{Badass}}: The first BigBad to fight [=McClane=] and actually win.



* NumberTwo: Colonel Stuart's second in command. He's not enough of a {{Badass}} to be TheDragon.

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* NumberTwo: Colonel Stuart's second in command. He's not enough of a {{Badass}} badass to be TheDragon.



* {{Badass}}: Fights [=McClane=] twice (once in the baggage handling area and once during the snowmobile chase) and survives.



* {{Badass}}: Takes a more physical approach than his brother, and can go toe to toe with [=McClane=]. His backstory reveals he was an East German Special Forces [[ColonelBadass Colonel]] who turned terrorist.



%%* {{Badass}}
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