History Characters / CiaphasCain

2nd Feb '17 12:34:30 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* AchievementsInIgnorance: Cain frequently wonders if Jurgen's life-saving feats are part of a calculated well-hidden genius or if he operates on gut instinct, being unaware that his actions are extremely improbable. Both Cain and Amberly have also mentioned that they aren't sure if he's the bravest man they've ever met, or just doesn't fully understand how dangerous his many adventures with Cain actually are.

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* AchievementsInIgnorance: Cain frequently wonders if Jurgen's life-saving feats are part of a calculated well-hidden genius or if he operates on gut instinct, being unaware that his actions are extremely improbable. Both Cain and Amberly have also mentioned that they aren't sure if he's the bravest man they've ever met, or just doesn't fully understand how dangerous his many adventures with Cain actually are. The short stories from his perspective do nothing to clear it up; he doesn't perceive the enemies he faces there as a serious threat, but then he beats them so handily that they clearly aren't.
2nd Feb '17 12:28:49 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* HiddenDepths: To most who meet him he's just the disheveled smelly soldier that brings the Commissar's tea. In reality he's one of the most skilled infantrymen in the Guard; a crack shot who is utterly fearless in battle, an expert at battlefield stealth and operating behind enemy lines, significant tactical insight, and a keen understanding of how best to engage most of Humanity's enemies won on the battlefield. He's also a skilled scrounger, an excellent (if terrifying) driver, an expert at the Imperial Military's labyrinthine paperwork and official protocol, and loyal to a fault.

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* HiddenDepths: To most who meet him he's just the disheveled smelly soldier that brings the Commissar's tea. In reality he's one of the most skilled infantrymen in the Guard; a crack shot who is utterly fearless in battle, an expert at battlefield stealth and operating behind enemy lines, possessing significant tactical insight, insight and a keen understanding of how best to engage most of Humanity's enemies won on the battlefield. He's also a skilled scrounger, an excellent (if terrifying) driver, an expert at the Imperial Military's labyrinthine paperwork and official protocol, and loyal to a fault.
28th Jan '17 7:56:29 AM outlander2012
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* BadBoss: Cain notes Mostrue was always a little too eager to call in artillery strikes on his position when required.



* KnowsWhenToFoldThem: When Jurgen mentions that the last time another Commissar called Kasteen's competence into question, Cain challenged them to a duel, Forres takes one look at his well-used chainsword and withdraws her remark.

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* KnowsWhenToFoldThem: KnowWhenToFoldThem: When Jurgen mentions that the last time another Commissar called Kasteen's competence into question, Cain challenged them to a duel, Forres takes one look at his well-used chainsword and withdraws her remark.
28th Jan '17 6:38:22 AM outlander2012
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* AttackAttackAttack: Her initial view of how an Imperial Guard regiment should operate. Exposure to Cain and the 597th cure her of it.


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* KnowsWhenToFoldThem: When Jurgen mentions that the last time another Commissar called Kasteen's competence into question, Cain challenged them to a duel, Forres takes one look at his well-used chainsword and withdraws her remark.


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* TeethClenchedTeamwork: Initially between Forres and the 597th, particularly with Kasteen.
28th Jan '17 5:47:52 AM Winter
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* ActionGirl
* ArmCannon: Favours a bolt pistol, like many Commissars for its intimidation factor.

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* ActionGirl
* ArmCannon: Favours a bolt pistol,
ActionGirl: She leads from the front like many Commissars for its intimidation factor.a "proper" Commissar and manages to hold her own against 'Nids.


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* HandCannon: Favours a bolt pistol, like many Commissars for its intimidation factor.
28th Jan '17 4:22:05 AM outlander2012
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28th Jan '17 4:21:26 AM outlander2012
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[[folder: Commissar Forres]]

The regimental Commissar assigned to the newly founded Nusquan 1st Regiment of the Imperial Guard and being fresh out of the schola, Forres is everything Cain isn't; gung-ho, by the book and indifferent to extensive casualties. Cain finds his second tour on Nusquam Fundumentibus divided between saving the planet from alien invasion and trying to stop Forres and her troopers from getting themselves killed.

* ActionGirl
* ArmCannon: Favours a bolt pistol, like many Commissars for its intimidation factor.
* ComplainingAboutRescuesTheyDontLike: [[spoiler: Lambasts the Valhallans for electrocuting the floor of the room she and her regiment were in, even though it wiped out the Tyranids trying to eat them. Magot's reaction is essentially this]].
-->'''Magot''': [[spoiler: No "thanks for saving us from being 'nid bait", then. Snotty fem-hound]].
* DidntThinkThisThrough: After the above example, [[spoiler: Forres cuts the power to the electricity by blasting the circuit box with her bolt pistol...killing ''all'' power in the room]].
** When it turns out [[spoiler: there are Tyranids on Nusquam Fundumentibus, Forres suggests trying to put the 'nids against the Orks they are already dealing with to make the Imperials' job easier. Kasteen, Broklaw and Cain all shoot down that idea immediately]].
* DefrostingIceQueen: Seems blunt and tactless at first, but becomes more friendly and tactically savvy as the book goes on.
* HeroWorship: Of Cain, as to be expected. She even outright says that the tutors at her schola held Cain up as the ideal to aspire to.
* LeeroyJenkins: To be expected from a commissar fresh out of the schola. Cain gets the worst of it out of her by the end of the novel.
* NoSocialSkills: Forres does not do a good job of endearing herself to the 597th. Judging by the reactions of her own regiment's officers whenever Kasteen, Broklaw or Cain takes her down a peg, Cain notes she's probably not very popular there.
* WeHaveReserves: Her idea on how to beat Orks is to charge them in close combat. It takes Cain and Kasteen pointing out that her regiment's casualty figures are ''three'' times higher than the 597th's to convince her to try something new (i.e., tactics)

28th Jan '17 12:58:14 AM AmbarSonofDeshar
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* DavidVersusGoliath: Very much the Goliath to Cain's David. As a ''very'' powerful daemon, Emeli is leagues beyond not only Cain, but everyone else he's a ever fought.

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* DavidVersusGoliath: Very much the Goliath to Cain's David. As a ''very'' powerful daemon, Emeli is leagues beyond not only Cain, but everyone else he's a ever fought.


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* FirstNameBasis: Always refers to Cain as "Ciaphas".
27th Jan '17 1:40:34 PM outlander2012
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27th Jan '17 1:37:40 PM outlander2012
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[[folder:Colonel Mostrue]]
Commanding officer of the Valhallan 12th Artillery Regiment, Mostrue is implied to have never fully bought into Cain's reputation as a hero, suspecting (quite rightly) that Cain's first act of 'heroism' with the regiment was an attempt to desert and has reputedly tried to catch Cain out in similar circumstances.

* CantKillYouStillNeedYou: He never openly calls Cain out on what really happened on Desolatia, but makes his suspicions plain in his demeanour.
* IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten: A variation; Cain notes that in the years after Desolatia, Mostrue always made sure to volunteer Cain for suicide missions and the like, hoping Cain would balk at the prospect and show his true colours.
* ProperlyParanoid: In regards to Cain's fradulent reputation, certainly.
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: For all his distrust of Cain's reputation, Mostrue has no problem following Cain's military instinct.
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