History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseTargaryen

9th May '17 6:47:28 PM Katsuhagi
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* GenerationalMagicDecline: Subverted. The Targaryens had an apogee of dragons and dragonriders by the time of their extinction during the Dance of the Dragons, where only a handful survived. Aegon III then was surprisingly unsuccessful in his efforts to both breed and raise new Targaryen dragons, leading to their total extinction.
** The Targaryen family carried out generations of BrotherSisterIncest to preserve their Valyrian looks, connection to dragons and the apparent magical powers that likely kept them from being even more deformed because of the repeated incest, but by the time of the main series no one has been able to successfully hatch a dragon for several generations. Until Daenerys comes along and not only hatches three but proves she has the legendary resistance to fire near the end of the first book. Additionally she's one of the most likely candidates for the [[TheChosenOne Azor Ahai]], who will defeat [[OurZombiesAreDifferent The Others]].

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* GenerationalMagicDecline: Subverted. The Originally, the Targaryens had an apogee of dragons and dragonriders by the time of their extinction during the Dance of the Dragons, where after which only a handful survived. Aegon III then was then surprisingly unsuccessful in his efforts to both breed and raise new Targaryen dragons, leading to their total extinction.
** The Targaryen family carried out generations of BrotherSisterIncest to preserve their Valyrian looks, connection to dragons and the apparent magical powers that likely kept them from being even more deformed because of the repeated incest, but by the time of the main series
extinction during his reign. Since then no one has been able to successfully hatch a dragon for several generations. Until generations... until Daenerys comes along and not only hatches three but proves she has the legendary resistance to fire near the end of the first book. Additionally she's one of the most likely candidates for the [[TheChosenOne Azor Ahai]], who will defeat [[OurZombiesAreDifferent The Others]].them.
22nd Apr '17 11:03:18 PM Eievie
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* {{Expy}}: They have similarities to the legendary Tarquins that ruled Rome, down to similar-sounding names. Both were overthrown in reaction to a tyrannical King's son's actions with a noblewoman (in the case of Sextus Tarquinus he raped her, in Rhaegar's case it is unclear whether Lyanna consented). The Tarquins were, like the Targaryens, not native to the place they ruled, being Etruscans.



* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: They echo such long-reigning ruling families as the [[UsefulNotes/LEtatCestMoi Capetians-Valois]], the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Normandy House of Normandy]], while their penchant for incestuous couplings derives from the Ptolemaic Dynasty. Their overall inspiration however is UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfPlantagenet, the longest ruling dynasty of England, from which Targaryen derives its name(Plan''tagenets''), while its dragon motif echoes their famous nickname (the "devil's brood"). Several historical targaryens are derived from Plantagenet kings.

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* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: They echo such long-reigning ruling families as NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed:
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the [[UsefulNotes/LEtatCestMoi Capetians-Valois]], the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Normandy House of Normandy]], while their penchant for incestuous couplings derives from the Greek Ptolemaic Dynasty. Dynasty of Egypt, the Valyrian Targaryens ruled a land they have no real cultural or ethnic claim to, nor relation with. Both have a long-running practice of wedding siblings to each other. The last Ptolemaic ruler was Cleopatra, who ditching the brother she was supposed to marry and co-rule with, and went abroad to Rome to get support and power to enable her to reign. Hmnn, which Targaryen queen is doing a similar thing now...
** They are also similar to the semi-legendary Tarquinius family, the ancient kings of early Rome, down to similar-sounding names. Both were overthrown in reaction to a tyrannical King's son's actions with a noblewoman (in the case of Sextus Tarquinus he raped her, in Rhaegar's case it is.... unclear whether Lyanna consented). The Tarquins were, like the Targaryens, not native to the place they ruled, being Etruscans.
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Their overall inspiration however is UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfPlantagenet, the longest ruling dynasty of England, from which Targaryen derives its name(Plan''tagenets''), while its dragon motif echoes their famous nickname (the "devil's brood"). Several historical targaryens are derived from Plantagenet kings.brood").
20th Apr '17 11:48:11 AM Euodiachloris
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* AristocratsAreEvil: The very embodiment.

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* AristocratsAreEvil: The very embodiment. Except... however Evil his actions got, how he perceived what was going on through his delusions ''may'' circumvent his actually being fully culpable in his actions.
13th Apr '17 3:01:47 PM Snowsky
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* LeanAndMean: In his later years, he ate very little because of his fear of being poisoned.

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* LeanAndMean: In his later years, he ate very little because of his fear of being poisoned. poisoned, a notable contrast to his equally mad ancestor [[FatBastard Aegon IV.]]
13th Apr '17 2:59:19 PM Snowsky
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* TheGoodKing: Played with. In ACOK, Arya overhears a peasant complaining about the injustices of Gregor Clegane against the smallfolk and argues that the "Old King" would not had abode to such treatment. She asks him if he's referring to Robert; he's actually referring to Aerys; so yeah... there's still people in Westeros that think that Aerys was a good king, only as far as safety was concerned. To Aerys II's credit, he did expand rights to the residents of the Kingswood (on Ser Arthur Dayne's appeal), so it might be that this one peasant remembers that one PetTheDog moment. Of course, in-universe, Aerys is considered one of the worst, if not the worst Targaryen King of all times.

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* TheGoodKing: Played with. In ACOK, Arya overhears a peasant complaining about the injustices of Gregor Clegane against the smallfolk and argues that the "Old King" would not had abode to such treatment. She asks him if he's referring to Robert; he's actually referring to Aerys; so yeah... there's still people in Westeros that think that Aerys was a good king, only as far as safety was concerned. To Aerys II's credit, he did expand rights to the residents of the Kingswood (on Ser Arthur Dayne's appeal), so it might be that this one peasant remembers that one PetTheDog moment. Of course, in-universe, Aerys is considered one of the worst, if not the worst Targaryen King kings of all times.time, if not the worst.



* KillTheCreditor: According to ''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire'', when the Iron Bank of Braavos pressed Aerys II about royal debts racked up under his father, he instead tried to build a massive war fleet "''to bring the Titan[[note]]the landmark of Braavos[[/note]] to his knees''"... thankfully Tywin simply paid the debt for Aerys II out of his own pocket.

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* KillTheCreditor: According to ''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire'', when the Iron Bank of Braavos pressed Aerys II about royal debts racked up under his father, he instead tried to build a massive war fleet "''to bring the Titan[[note]]the landmark of Braavos[[/note]] to his knees''"... thankfully Tywin simply [[MundaneSolution paid the debt for Aerys II out of his own pocket.]]



* LastOfHisKind: He was the last reigning Targaryen King.

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* LastOfHisKind: He was the last reigning Targaryen King. Though he may not be the last reigning Targaryen if his daughter Daenerys has anything to say about it...
* LeanAndMean: In his later years, he ate very little because of his fear of being poisoned.
13th Apr '17 2:55:56 PM Snowsky
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: The most hated of all the Targaryen kings, though that could also stem from him being the most recent and one of the only ones in living memory. Having said that, getting almost every single Lord Paramount to not only hate your guts, but be willing to take you down? Only Maegor "the Cruel" also holds that distinction... So, it's probably fairly earned.

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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: The ''The'' most hated of all the Targaryen kings, though that could also stem from him being the most recent and one of the only ones in living memory. Having said that, getting almost every single Lord Paramount to not only hate your guts, but be willing to take you down? Only Maegor "the Cruel" also holds that distinction... So, it's probably fairly earned.



* IWasQuiteALooker: He was quite handsome in his youth. This did not last.



* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Hates the Dornish and insults his granddaughter Rhaenys for "smelling" like one.

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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Hates Hated the Dornish and insults insulted his baby granddaughter Rhaenys for "smelling" like one.


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* UngratefulBastard: His more competent Hand of the King, Tywin, ran his kingdom like a well-oiled machine for him for 20 years. Aerys thanked him by [[AbhorrentAdmirer repeatedly hitting on Tywin's wife Joanna,]] refusing to let Tywin's daughter Cersei marry his own son Rhaegar, and denying Tywin his preferred heir Jaime by appointing him to the Kingsguard.


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* WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes: He developed a phobia of blades after the Defiance of Duskendale, only allowing the swords of his Kingsguard in his presence and refusing to cut his nails or hair.
10th Apr '17 10:02:58 PM cherrychels
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* NobleTopEnforcer: He seems to have been a (mostly) nice guy himself, but Rhaegar fought to keep his cruel and paranoid father on the Iron Throne during Robert's Rebellion however, he was neither ignorant of nor comfortable with Aerys's madness and may have been planning to curb his father's powers before things went south.

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* NobleTopEnforcer: He seems to have been a (mostly) nice guy himself, but Rhaegar fought to keep his cruel and paranoid father on the Iron Throne during Robert's Rebellion however, he Rebellion. However, Rhaegar was neither ignorant of -- nor comfortable with -- Aerys's madness and may have been planning to curb his father's powers power before things went south.



* TogetherInDeath: With Lyanna. Robert says: "Rhaegar won, damn him. I killed him, Ned, I drove the spike right through that black armor into his black heart, and he died at my feet. They made up songs about it. Yet somehow he still won. He has Lyanna now, and I have ''[[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen her]]''."

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* TogetherInDeath: With Lyanna. Robert says: says of him and Lyanna, "Rhaegar won, damn him. I killed him, Ned, I drove the spike right through that black armor into his black heart, and he died at my feet. They made up songs about it. Yet somehow he still won. He has Lyanna now, and I have ''[[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen her]]''."



** To Jon Snow. They are both [[WideEyedIdealist idealistic]] {{Sheltered Aristocrat}}s who longed for adventure as children and initially start off with romanticized notions -- but both get shaken with a good talk with [[PragmaticHero Tyrion Lannister]]. While Jon resolves to do the best he can despite his unfortunate odds, it is yet to be seen what Aegon will do. [[spoiler: And also, possibly thanks to [[EpilepticTrees R+L=J]], they're also half-brothers at best and distantly related at worst. If Aegon is actually a Blackfyre and doesn't know it, then he is unknowingly an illegitimate son believing he is the true king of Westeros, while Jon -- if he is actually trueborn -- is an heir to the Iron Throne, but has been raised as his uncle's illegitimate son, who did so to keep Jon safe.]]

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** To Jon Snow. They are both [[WideEyedIdealist idealistic]] {{Sheltered Aristocrat}}s who longed long for adventure as children and initially start off with romanticized notions -- but both get shaken with from a good talk with [[PragmaticHero Tyrion Lannister]]. While Jon resolves to do the best he can despite his unfortunate odds, odds and chooses a life of hard duty, it is yet to be seen what Aegon will do. [[spoiler: And also, possibly thanks to [[EpilepticTrees R+L=J]], they're also half-brothers at best and distantly related at worst. If Aegon is actually a Blackfyre and doesn't know it, then he is unknowingly an illegitimate son believing he is the true king of Westeros, while Jon -- if he is actually trueborn -- is an heir to the Iron Throne, but has been [[{{Nephewism}} raised as his uncle's the illegitimate son, son]] of [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo his uncle]], who did so to keep Jon safe.]]
10th Apr '17 9:37:48 PM cherrychels
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** The other time has been the rather [[LoveRuinsTheRealm infamous liaison]] between Prince Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, whatever the nature of their relationship was ( [[AbductionIsLove kidnapping]] or [[{{Elopement}} elopement]] ) and as well the result of it[[spoiler:, which has been [[EpilepticTrees speculated for years]] to be nothing less than Jon Snow]].

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** The other time has been the rather [[LoveRuinsTheRealm infamous liaison]] between Prince Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, whatever the nature of their relationship was ( [[AbductionIsLove kidnapping]] or [[{{Elopement}} elopement]] ) and as well the result of it[[spoiler:, which their union [[spoiler:[[EpilepticTrees has been [[EpilepticTrees speculated for years]] to be nothing less than have lead to the conception of a son, Jon Snow]].



* MassiveNumberedSiblings: His children with Rhaella: Rhaegar, Viserys and Daenerys (the ones who survived to adulthood), three miscarried children, two stillborn children (one being a girl named Shaena) and three children who died in infancy - Daeron (lived for half a year), Aegon (born very premature, lived for a few months) and Jaehaerys (also lived less than a year).

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* MassiveNumberedSiblings: His children with Rhaella: Rhaegar, Viserys and Daenerys (the ones who survived to adulthood), three miscarried children, two stillborn children (one being a girl named Shaena) and three children who died in infancy - -- Daeron (lived for half a year), Aegon (born very premature, lived for a few months) and Jaehaerys (also lived less than a year).



** To [[UsefulNotes/LetatCestMoi the French King Charles VI the Mad]] who was initally seen as a good and wise King but eventually became mentally ill. Charles VI was famously paranoid, believed he was made of glass, would randomly attack and kill pageboys and knights, and in the infamous ''Bal des Ardents'', aka "the Ball of the Burning Men", he and several other young nobles disguised themselves as [[WildMan wood savages]] as a lark, using costumes made of linen, flax and inflammable resin, which accidentally caught fire[[note]]the attendants rushed to protect the King and four people died in the process; Charles himself was saved when his fifteen-year-old aunt threw her skirt over him to protect him from the flames[[/note]].

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** To [[UsefulNotes/LetatCestMoi the French King Charles VI the Mad]] who was initally initially seen as a good and wise King but eventually became mentally ill. Charles VI was famously paranoid, believed he was made of glass, would randomly attack and kill pageboys and knights, and in the infamous ''Bal des Ardents'', aka "the Ball of the Burning Men", he and several other young nobles disguised themselves as [[WildMan wood savages]] as a lark, using costumes made of linen, flax and inflammable resin, which accidentally caught fire[[note]]the attendants rushed to protect the King and four people died in the process; Charles himself was saved when his fifteen-year-old aunt threw her skirt over him to protect him from the flames[[/note]].



* ParentalFavoritism: Aerys II was jealous of his eldest Rhaegar and lavished on his other son, the similarly unstable Viserys.

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* ParentalFavoritism: Aerys II was jealous of his eldest son Rhaegar and lavished attention on his other son, the similarly unstable Viserys.



* DomesticAbuse: Was on the receiving end of this, according to Jaime. Aerys would pay her visits every so often - usually after burning someone to death - to savagely beat and rape her to the point where it looked as though she had been savaged by an animal.

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* DomesticAbuse: Was on the receiving end of this, according to Jaime. Aerys would pay her visits every so often - -- usually after burning someone to death - -- to savagely beat and rape her to the point where it looked as though she had been savaged by an animal.



* HundredPercentAdorationRating: He was beloved by commons and highborn before the incident with Lyanna Stark, and Targaryen loyalists still adore him.

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* HundredPercentAdorationRating: He was beloved by commons common and highborn people alike before the incident with Lyanna Stark, and Targaryen loyalists still adore him.



** Robb Stark. Both are [[WarriorPrince Warrior Princes]] widely thought of as TheAce and BigGood, with a HundredPercentAdorationRating, and are in-universe [[MemeticBadass Memetic Badasses]]. Both made bad decisions in regards to a woman (Rhaegar eloping with/kidnapping Lyanna Stark, Robb [[spoiler:marrying Jeyne Westerling]]) that required breaking marital vows (Rhaegar's vows to Elia Martell, Robb's [[spoiler:marriage alliance with the Freys]]) and ultimately [[spoiler:got them killed]]. They were both possibly motivated by family history regarding childbearing (Rhaegar's wish to fulfill the Prince That Was Promised prophecy, Robb's fear of siring a bastard like his father). After their deaths, former supporters remain deeply devoted to their memories, and [[spoiler:plot to put their heirs (Aegon VI and Rickon Stark) on the throne]]. Both are entirely shown to us from others' perspectives, Robb being one of the only Starks who is not a viewpoint character, and Rhaegar being one of the most notable [[PosthumousCharacter Posthumous Characters]], leaving them subject to a lot of AlternateCharacterInterpretation. Both are also brothers to two characters often speculated to be TheChosenOne [[spoiler: (though actually Jon may very well be Rhaegar's son instead of Robb's brother.)]]
** Bael the Bard. The Prince of Dragonstone and the King-Beyond-the-Wall shared a taste for [[WarriorPoet songs]], Stark ladies, [[FlowersOfRomance blue winter roses]] and [[AbductionIsLove eloping]]. Both of their affairs with Stark women brought misery to House Stark and [[spoiler: resulted in the birth of heroes, if Lyanna and Rhaegar are Jon's biological parents]].

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** Robb Stark. Both are [[WarriorPrince Warrior Princes]] widely thought of as TheAce and BigGood, with a HundredPercentAdorationRating, and are in-universe [[MemeticBadass Memetic Badasses]]. Both made bad decisions in regards to a woman (Rhaegar eloping with/kidnapping Lyanna Stark, Robb [[spoiler:marrying Jeyne Westerling]]) that required breaking marital vows (Rhaegar's vows to Elia Martell, Robb's [[spoiler:marriage alliance with the Freys]]) and ultimately [[spoiler:got them killed]]. They were both possibly motivated by family history regarding childbearing (Rhaegar's wish to fulfill the Prince That Was Promised prophecy, Robb's fear of siring a bastard like his father). After their deaths, former supporters remain deeply devoted to their memories, and [[spoiler:plot to put their heirs (Aegon VI and Rickon Stark) on the throne]]. Both are entirely shown to us from others' perspectives, Robb being one of the only Starks who is not a viewpoint character, and Rhaegar being one of the most notable [[PosthumousCharacter Posthumous Characters]], leaving them subject to a lot of AlternateCharacterInterpretation. Both are also brothers to two characters often speculated to be TheChosenOne [[spoiler: (though actually Jon may very well be Rhaegar's Lyanna Stark's son instead of by Rhaegar Targaryen, making Jon Robb's blood cousin instead of his blood brother.)]]
** Bael the Bard. The Prince of Dragonstone and the King-Beyond-the-Wall shared a taste for [[WarriorPoet songs]], Stark ladies, [[FlowersOfRomance blue winter roses]] and [[AbductionIsLove eloping]]. Both of their affairs with Stark women brought misery to House Stark and [[spoiler: resulted in the birth of heroes, if Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen are Jon's Jon Snow's biological parents]].



... or so most of Westeros believes. He was actually switched with a commonborn child prior to the battle, smuggled across the Narrow Sea, and brought up in Pentos by Lord Jon Connington as his son, "Young Griff". Groomed to become a king who actually puts the people first for a change, Aegon is preparing an attempt to retake Westeros - with or without help from his aunt Daenerys and his Martell kin - with the military support of [[Characters/ASongOfIceAndFireTheGoldenCompany The Golden Company]]'s mercenaries.

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... or so most of Westeros believes. He was actually switched with a commonborn child prior to the battle, smuggled across the Narrow Sea, and brought up in Pentos by Lord Jon Connington as his son, "Young Griff". Groomed to become a king who actually puts the people first for a change, Aegon is preparing an attempt to retake Westeros - -- with or without help from his aunt Daenerys and his Martell kin - -- with the military support of [[Characters/ASongOfIceAndFireTheGoldenCompany The Golden Company]]'s mercenaries.



** To Jon Snow. They are both [[WideEyedIdealist idealistic]] {{Sheltered Aristocrat}}s who long for glory and adventure, but both get shaken with a good talk with [[PragmaticHero Tyrion Lannister]]. While Jon resolves to do the best he can despite his unfortunate odds, it is yet to be seen what Aegon will do. [[spoiler: And also possibly thanks to [[EpilepticTrees R+L=J]], they're also half-brothers at best and distantly related at worst. If Aegon is actually a Blackfyre and doesn't know it, then he is unknowingly a bastard pretending to be the true king of Westeros, while Jon, if he is actually true born, is the true heir to the Iron Throne, but has been raised as a bastard.]]

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** To Jon Snow. They are both [[WideEyedIdealist idealistic]] {{Sheltered Aristocrat}}s who long longed for glory adventure as children and adventure, initially start off with romanticized notions -- but both get shaken with a good talk with [[PragmaticHero Tyrion Lannister]]. While Jon resolves to do the best he can despite his unfortunate odds, it is yet to be seen what Aegon will do. [[spoiler: And also also, possibly thanks to [[EpilepticTrees R+L=J]], they're also half-brothers at best and distantly related at worst. If Aegon is actually a Blackfyre and doesn't know it, then he is unknowingly a bastard pretending to be an illegitimate son believing he is the true king of Westeros, while Jon, Jon -- if he is actually true born, trueborn -- is the true an heir to the Iron Throne, but has been raised as a bastard.his uncle's illegitimate son, who did so to keep Jon safe.]]



* PromotionToParent: After the death of their entire family, he raised his little sister Daenerys as a ParentalSubstitute. Too bad he was an [[AbusiveParents abusive]] one. Took after his own daddy, there: even though his mother did her best to shelter him from the worst of Aerys' moods, it's clear he still learned how from him.

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* PromotionToParent: After the death of their entire family, he raised his little sister Daenerys as a ParentalSubstitute. Too bad he was an [[AbusiveParents abusive]] one. Took after his own daddy, daddy there: even though his mother did her best to shelter him from the worst of Aerys' moods, it's clear he still learned how from him.
7th Apr '17 6:48:04 PM Golondrina
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* ARealManIsAKiller: Subverted. Vowed to kill Robert himself, though he's never killed anyone.


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* ARealManIsAKiller: Subverted. Vowed to kill Robert himself, though he's never killed anyone.
15th Mar '17 11:23:57 PM Euodiachloris
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** Having "rhae" as a prominent component of your name also seems to be inviting the world to kick you, yet it remains popular.
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