History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseBaratheonOfKingsLanding

11th Sep '17 8:38:36 AM starcaptain
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* TheCorrupter: Seen as such by the High Sparrow. When Kevan visits Cersei, she is guarded by four handmaidens and a septa who are rotated out every seven days to prevent Cersei from gaining any influence over them. And from the Faith's perspective, this makes perfect sense considering Lancel's confessions.
2nd Sep '17 5:23:51 PM TheMoccasinKing
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* EpicFail: The ultimate result of her sole rule, culminating in [[spoiler: her arrest by the very Faith she had given power to in order to get rid of a perceived rival. Every plan she has made unravels and crashes down upon her at this point; the fail is so complete she managed to rack up not only regicide in the accusations against her, but also [[BeyondTheImpossible ''deicide'']].

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* EpicFail: The ultimate result of her sole rule, culminating in [[spoiler: her arrest by the very Faith she had given power to in order to get rid of a perceived rival. Every plan she has made unravels and crashes down upon her at this point; the fail is so complete she managed to rack up not only regicide in the accusations against her, but also [[BeyondTheImpossible ''deicide'']]. ''[[BeyondTheImpossible deicide]]''. ]]
2nd Sep '17 5:22:34 PM TheMoccasinKing
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* EpicFail: The ultimate result of her sole rule, culminating in [[spoiler: her arrest by the very Faith she had given power to in order to get rid of a perceived rival. Every plan she has made unravels and crashes down upon her at this point; the fail is so complete she managed to rack up not only regicide in the accusations against her, but also [[BeyondTheImpossible ''deicide'']].
31st Aug '17 5:55:07 AM XFllo
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* DumbMuscle: He understands full well how out of depth he is when it comes to politicking. He knows it's going on, but doesn't even try to play the game. He's a great fighter and military commander, but has no head for the intricacies politics, for all he can man-manage like a champ on a one-to-one basis. Check his quote.
** What's even more ironic is that Robert is not really an idiot (he's really just depressed and lazy). If he'd actually put his mind of average intelligence and his extremely high charisma into playing the game, then he could have been an extremely successful politician. Instead, his depression simply made him throw up his hands and give up which could give him a slightly unfair reputation as a fool.
* {{Expy}}:
** He is a BoisterousBruiser whose weapon of choice is a war hammer and one of his many aliases is ''The Stormlord''. [[Myth/NorseMythology Thor]] anyone?
** Young Robert Baratheon is a gigantic man with black hair and blue eyes who loves battle, drinking, eating and wenching just like Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian (and also his character is named after Creator/RobertEHoward himself).

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* DumbMuscle: He understands full well how out of depth he is when it comes to politicking. He knows it's going on, but doesn't even try to play the game. He's a great fighter and military commander, but has no head for the intricacies politics, for all he can man-manage like a champ on a one-to-one basis. Check his quote.
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What's even more ironic is that Robert is not really an idiot (he's really just depressed and lazy). If he'd actually put his mind of average intelligence and his extremely high charisma into playing the game, then he could have been an extremely successful politician. Instead, his depression simply made him throw up his hands and give up which could give him a slightly unfair reputation as a fool.
* {{Expy}}:
** He is a BoisterousBruiser whose weapon of choice is a war hammer and one of his many aliases is ''The Stormlord''. [[Myth/NorseMythology Thor]] anyone?
** Young Robert Baratheon is a gigantic man with black hair and blue eyes who loves battle, drinking, eating and wenching just like Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian (and also his character is named after Creator/RobertEHoward himself).
fool.
18th Aug '17 2:15:16 AM Scabbard
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* ICallItVera: One of the flagships of the royal fleet is called ''King Robert's Hammer''. Another is [[TheLostLenore ''Lady Lyanna'']]

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* ICallItVera: One of the flagships of the royal fleet is called ''King Robert's Hammer''. Another is [[TheLostLenore ''Lady Lyanna'']]Lyanna'']].
12th Aug '17 5:40:48 PM DrakeClawfang
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: It's heavily implied that Joffrey hired the assassin that attempted to kill Bran Stark, and did it because Robert made an off-hand comment that Bran should have a MercyKill rather than live as a cripple. Robert's off-hand remark caused the assassination attempt, which led to Littlefinger pointing Catelyn to Tyrion as the suspect. Catelyn's arrest of Tyrion and the fallout from that were major causes of the War of the Five Kings.
30th Jul '17 7:12:23 PM trixus
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* BrilliantButLazy: He's not at all thick or a clod-foot, being quite the charmer and rather observant. The problem is that his active, hot-blooded skill-set is not one that works well with the petty, day-to-day bickering to be found in trying to run a kingdom. Which is why he actively chooses not to look or take part.

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* BrilliantButLazy: He's not at all thick or a clod-foot, being quite the charmer and rather observant. The problem is that his active, hot-blooded skill-set is not one that works well with the petty, day-to-day bickering to be found in trying to run a kingdom. Which is why he actively chooses not to look or take part. It doesn't help that he'll rather drink his sorrow than actually learn how to rule the kingdom.



* RealityEnsues: Much to his rue, taking a throne is much easier than keeping one. Much to his court's chagrin, being a powerful general in wartime doesn't make him a good king in peacetime.

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* RealityEnsues: Much to his rue, taking a throne is much easier than keeping one. Much to his court's chagrin, being a powerful general in wartime doesn't make him a good king in peacetime. Also someone who just wanted the woman he loved back probably doesn't care about being the king.



* SoldierVsWarrior: He actually earned a reputation for being both to Stannis' chagrin.

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* SoldierVsWarrior: He actually earned a reputation for being both to Stannis' chagrin. He is more of a warrior with a military mind when he wants to.
25th Jul '17 8:34:43 PM Scabbard
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** Even before that we have Robert and Cersei greeting Ned and Cat. Robert runs up and hugs Catelyn like a long lost sister like while Cersei has Ned bend a knee in the snow and kiss her hand.

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** Even before that we have Robert and Cersei greeting Ned and Cat. Robert runs up and hugs Catelyn like a long lost sister like while Cersei has Ned bend a knee in the snow and kiss her hand.
23rd Jul '17 3:17:01 PM Scabbard
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** Isabella of France, daughter of King Philip IV "the Fair" of France (who incidentally is one of the inspiration for Tywin Lannister), she was married off to Edward II King of England. Isabella was soon trapped in an unhappy marriage as she was constantly humiliated Isabella by [[AmbiguouslyGay the king's favourites]], who were also granted a higher position at court than Isabella herself. For both queens, the actions of their husbands lead to distain towards them and as result both queens eventually look lovers and plotted against their terrible spouses. Isabella had an affair with English nobleman Roger Mortimer and together they have King Edward disposed from the throne and assumed power of her son Edward III due to his young age, but their RegentForLife plans were thrown off a cliff as soon as Edward III grew up, who wanting to avoid the same fate as his father, executed Roger Mortimer and exiled his mother Isabella. Incidentally Isabella was the instigator of the [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_Nesle_Affair Tour de Nesle Affair]], a scandal amongst the French royal family in 1314, during which the three daughters-in-law of King Philip IV of France were accused of adultery, which inspired the FawltyTowers plot ([[spoiler: of framing Margaery Tyrell and her cousins for adultery]]) schemed by Cersei in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows''.

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** Isabella of France, daughter of King Philip IV "the Fair" of France (who incidentally is one of the inspiration for Tywin Lannister), she was married off to Edward II King of England. Isabella was soon trapped in an unhappy marriage as she was constantly humiliated Isabella by [[AmbiguouslyGay the king's favourites]], who were also granted a higher position at court than Isabella herself. For both queens, the actions of their husbands lead to distain towards them and as result both queens eventually look lovers and plotted against their terrible spouses. Isabella had an affair with English nobleman Roger Mortimer and together they have King Edward disposed from the throne and assumed power of her son Edward III due to his young age, but their RegentForLife plans were thrown off a cliff as soon as Edward III grew up, who wanting to avoid the same fate as his father, executed Roger Mortimer and exiled his mother Isabella. Incidentally Isabella was the instigator of the [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_Nesle_Affair Tour de Nesle Affair]], a scandal amongst the French royal family in 1314, during which the three daughters-in-law of King Philip IV of France were accused of adultery, which inspired the FawltyTowers plot ([[spoiler: of ([[spoiler:of framing Margaery Tyrell and her cousins for adultery]]) schemed by Cersei in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows''.
23rd Jul '17 10:14:11 AM Origamidragons
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* ProphecyTwist: It's [[WildMassGuessing quite possible]] that she's misinterpreted the prophecy she was given: [[spoiler:both of her brothers are younger than her. At this point, either of them might find themselves in position to either kill her or abandon her to her fate--and in fact Jaime has already done so in ''Feast''. The "another, younger and more beautiful" may also be Daenerys Targaryen or Sansa Stark rather than Margaery Tyrell. Finally, the prophecy does not necessarily say her children will predecease her, though one clearly has (one possible interpretation could even be "they'll be golden-haired", rather than meaning an actual crown on their heads). Heck, the prophecy doesn't even say it'll be ''her'' younger ''brother''; the most usual translation of ''valonqar'' is given as "the younger brother", but with the general Valyrian cultural blindness towards gendered descriptions, could actually mean "younger sibling". Given the number of people she's already hurt, what are the odds that one of them has a significant younger brother or sister who might want revenge?]]

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* ProphecyTwist: It's [[WildMassGuessing quite possible]] that she's misinterpreted the prophecy she was given: [[spoiler:both of her brothers are younger than her. At this point, either of them might find themselves in position to either kill her or abandon her to her fate--and in fact Jaime has already done so in ''Feast''. The "another, younger and more beautiful" may also be Daenerys Targaryen or Sansa Stark rather than Margaery Tyrell. Finally, the prophecy does not necessarily say her children will predecease her, though one clearly has (one possible interpretation could even be "they'll be golden-haired", rather than meaning an actual crown on their heads). Heck, the prophecy doesn't even say it'll be ''her'' younger ''brother''; the most usual translation of ''valonqar'' is given as "the younger brother", but with the general Valyrian cultural blindness towards gendered descriptions, could actually mean "younger sibling". Given the number of people she's already hurt, what are the odds that one of them has a significant younger brother or sister who might want revenge?]]revenge? (Hint: Daenerys, Sansa, Arya, Margaery, Loras, Bran, Nymeria and Tyene Sand, and Aegon are all younger siblings with reason to wish for her death.]]
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