History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseBaratheonOfKingsLanding

20th Jun '17 12:06:45 PM lluewhyn
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**One could say it is actually an InvertedTrope. Her POV makes her come across as more pathetic and less sympathetic.
20th Jun '17 11:42:41 AM lluewhyn
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Ultimately subverted. She is in love with the idea of what her kids could be, but she refuses to acknowledge them as they are, and before [[spoiler: Joff's death]] she mostly ignores Tommen and Myrcella. She endlessly fantasizes about how Joffrey would be a fantastic king, while ignoring what a monster he is. She gets mad when Tyrion talks about sending Myrcella off to Dorne (partially for the girl's own safety) and only seems concerned about [[ItsAllAboutMe her daughter being taken from her]].

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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Ultimately subverted. She is in love with the idea of what her kids could be, but she refuses to acknowledge them as they are, and before [[spoiler: Joff's death]] she mostly ignores Tommen and Myrcella. She endlessly fantasizes about how Joffrey would be a fantastic king, while ignoring what a monster he is. She gets mad when Tyrion talks about sending Myrcella off to Dorne (partially for the girl's own safety) and only seems concerned about [[ItsAllAboutMe her daughter being taken from her]]. Later books reveal a prophecy where she was told that her three children would all die before her. So, part of the concern for her children's well-being could very well be self-motivated.
6th Jun '17 3:49:52 PM AngeloftheMorning
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30th May '17 8:11:10 PM RoyFlowers
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** Suggesting that he is ''not'' the king is a good way to get him red-faced and screaming for your death.


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* {{Narcissist}}: Joffrey is even more conceited than his mother, and with far less skill or wit to back it up. Sansa figures out that one of the very few ways to pacify Joffrey is by stroking his massive ego. Joffrey's so vain and stupid, he'll not only accept flattery from people who obviously hate him, but he will ''believe'' it.
30th May '17 8:00:09 PM RoyFlowers
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* BaldOfEvil: [[spoiler: Following her stint as a prisoner of the Faith Militant, Cersei is shaved hairless and left with a smoldering desire for homicidal vengeance.]]

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* BaldOfEvil: [[spoiler: Following her stint as a prisoner of the Faith Militant, Cersei is shaved hairless and left with a smoldering desire for homicidal vengeance. Although given the way time passes in this series, she might have BoyishShortHair before long.]]
30th May '17 7:58:25 PM RoyFlowers
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* BaldOfEvil: [[spoiler: Following her stint as a prisoner of the Faith Militant, Cersei is shaved hairless and left with a smoldering desire for homicidal vengeance.]]
28th May '17 11:25:10 AM NOYB
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* SelectiveObliviousness: Ned is horrified and disgusted to learn that Robbert's method of running the kingdom essentially boils down to leaving other people ([[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen usually his wife]]) to make decisions and turning a blind eye to things he doesn't want to see ([[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen usually his wife's]] and [[PoisonousFriend wife's family's]] antics). He also spends the kingdom into massive debt because he loves throwing lavish tourneys and parties, but doesn't like hearing how much royal coffers do or don't have.

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* SelectiveObliviousness: Ned is horrified and disgusted to learn that Robbert's method of running the kingdom essentially boils down to leaving other people ([[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen usually his wife]]) to make decisions and turning a blind eye to things he doesn't want to see ([[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen usually his wife's]] and [[PoisonousFriend wife's family's]] antics). He also spends the kingdom into massive debt because he loves throwing lavish tourneys and parties, but doesn't like hearing how much gold the royal coffers do or don't have.
28th May '17 11:20:22 AM NOYB
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** Understanding how out of his depths he was when it came to politics, he wanted to abdicate the throne, head for Essos and become a sellsword so he could do what he was good at: Warring. The only thing that keeps him from leaving is the thought of [[RoyalBrat Joffrey]] sitting on the throne with [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Cersei whispering in his ear]]. Considering the mess those two made of things after his death, staying was the right thing to do.

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** Understanding how out of his depths he was when it came to politics, he wanted to abdicate the throne, head for Essos and become a sellsword so he could do what he was good at: Warring.warring. The only thing that keeps him from leaving is the thought of [[RoyalBrat Joffrey]] sitting on the throne with [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Cersei whispering in his ear]]. Considering the mess those two made of things after his death, staying was the right thing to do.



* EverythingButTheGirl: Robert Baratheon went to war against the Mad King to rescue his beloved Lyanna Stark (among other reasons). When the dust finally settled, Robert has become king and commanded all of the Seven Kingdoms, but Lyanna died regardless. He makes it no secret that he is bitter about winning a crown he never wanted and [[TheLostLenore losing a girl he did]], going so far as to say that the man who kidnapped her (who Robert killed in a battlefield duel) won by joining [[TogetherInDeath Lyanna in death]]. In an interesting twist, it's made increasingly clear that while Robert may or may not have "loved" Lyanna, he never really ''knew'' her, and their potential married life would likely have been unhappy.

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* EverythingButTheGirl: Robert Baratheon went to war against the Mad King to rescue his beloved Lyanna Stark (among other reasons). When the dust finally settled, Robert has become king and commanded commandeered all of the Seven Kingdoms, but Lyanna died regardless. He makes it no secret that he is bitter about winning a crown he never wanted and [[TheLostLenore losing a girl he did]], going so far as to say that the man who kidnapped her (who (whom Robert killed in a battlefield duel) won by joining [[TogetherInDeath Lyanna in death]]. In an interesting twist, it's made increasingly clear that while Robert may or may not have "loved" Lyanna, he never really ''knew'' her, and their potential married life would likely have been unhappy.



* CharacterizationMarchesOn: In ''A Game of Thrones'', Myrcella is described as being somewhat ditzy and shallow. When she gets more focus in ''A Feast for Crows'', she is shown to be [[WiseBeyondTheirYears very smart for her age.]] It's also worth nothing that in ''A Game of Thrones'', she's being described by Jon, who's jealous of the attention she's showing Robb, and in ''A Feast for Crows'' by people who think well of her.

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* CharacterizationMarchesOn: In ''A Game of Thrones'', Myrcella is described as being somewhat ditzy and shallow. When she gets more focus in ''A Feast for Crows'', she is shown to be [[WiseBeyondTheirYears very smart for her age.]] It's also worth nothing that in ''A Game of Thrones'', Thrones'' she's being described by Jon, who's jealous of the attention she's showing Robb, and in ''A Feast for Crows'' by people who think well of her.



* {{Foil}}: To her mother. Like Cersei, Myrcella was born as the only girl beside two brothers, which put her on a dead end of the chain of inheritance. But while Cersei just ''feels'' she is more competent than any of her brothers, Myrcella really is smarter than both of hers, more stable than Joffrey and stronger than Tommen and would probably be a better ruler material than any of them--[[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen and their mother]].
** To Arya Stark. She is every bit the child princess Arya refused to be with none of the disadvantages Arya saw in the position. She was basically sent to what constitutes every princess' utopia, betrothed to an exotic prince in a beautiful foreign land. [[spoiler:It doesn't quite work that well for her when Arianne Martell tries to conspire using her, but she stays loyal and strong to her position nevertheless.]] Arya refused her heritage and her betrothed (though they didn't even know each other when they met and went their separate ways) and has seen nothing but suffering since then.

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* {{Foil}}: To her mother. Like Cersei, Myrcella was born as the only girl beside two brothers, which put her on a dead end of the chain of inheritance. But while Cersei just ''feels'' she is more competent than any of her brothers, Myrcella really is smarter than both of hers, more stable than Joffrey and stronger than Tommen and would probably be a better ruler material than any of them--[[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen and their mother]].
** To Arya Stark. She is every bit the child princess Arya refused to be with none of the disadvantages Arya saw in the position. She was basically sent to what constitutes every princess' princess's utopia, betrothed to an exotic prince in a beautiful foreign land. [[spoiler:It doesn't quite work that well for her when Arianne Martell tries to conspire using her, but she stays loyal and strong to her position nevertheless.]] Arya refused her heritage and her betrothed (though they didn't even know each other when they met and went their separate ways) and has seen nothing but suffering since then.


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* SmartPeoplePlayChess: She and Trystane play ''cyvasse'' together, the closest equivalent to chess in the world of ''A Song of Ice and Fire'', and she usually wins.
28th May '17 11:07:37 AM NOYB
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* CharacterizationMarchesOn: In ''A Game of Thrones'', Myrcella is described as being somewhat ditzy and shallow. When she gets more focus in ''A Feast for Crows'', she is shown to be [[WiseBeyondTheirYears very smart for her age.]] It's also worth nothing that in ''A Game of Thrones'', she's being described by the Starks, who are biased against her, and in ''A Feast for Crows'' by people who think well of it.

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* CharacterizationMarchesOn: In ''A Game of Thrones'', Myrcella is described as being somewhat ditzy and shallow. When she gets more focus in ''A Feast for Crows'', she is shown to be [[WiseBeyondTheirYears very smart for her age.]] It's also worth nothing that in ''A Game of Thrones'', she's being described by Jon, who's jealous of the Starks, who are biased against her, attention she's showing Robb, and in ''A Feast for Crows'' by people who think well of it.her.
19th May '17 5:02:22 PM RoyFlowers
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* AbusiveParents: Subverted. Cersei was outraged when Robert hit Joffrey and knocked out three of his baby teeth over "some nonsense about a cat." Stannis remembers Robert did it because little Joffrey had disemboweled the cat and showed Robert its kittens that he cut out, and that he hit Joffrey so hard that Stannis thought he'd killed him. Although obviously not a healthy way to deal with that situation at all, his reaction was perhaps understandable.
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