History CharacterDerailment / WesternAnimation

20th Mar '17 8:47:28 PM Vir
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* JohnnyBravo was, in the first season, a largely unflappable jock who tried a little too hard to impress the ladies, and who wasn't too bright but could occasionally be quite clever. In seasons two and three, in a case of DependingOnTheWriter, he turned into a [[ManChild childish]], [[TheDitz idiotic]] JerkAss who ScreamsLikeALittleGirl.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'''s DarkerAndEdgier sequel, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'', has Ben and Gwen exhibit different personalities than before, but that's excusable since it's been five years and they've matured. However, there is NO explanation for the change in Kevin, who not only has suffered massive BadassDecay, but is now a [[HeelFaceTurn good guy]] for poorly constructed reasons and shows [[SameCharacterButDifferent no signs of the sociopathic cruelty he did in the original series.]] Now all he can do is be blunt (especially about his [[StrangledByTheRedString crush on Gwen, which came out of nowhere.]]), demonstrate TheWorfEffect, drive them around in his beloved car, and occasionally thrive off of his reputation from back when he was an actual threat. Both ''Ultimate Alien'' AND ''Omniverse'' made attempts at CharacterRerailment, but the fanbase remains perpetually divided over how well either of them went.

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* JohnnyBravo WesternAnimation/JohnnyBravo was, in the first season, a largely unflappable jock who tried a little too hard to impress the ladies, and who wasn't too bright but could occasionally be quite clever. In seasons two and three, in a case of DependingOnTheWriter, he turned into a [[ManChild childish]], [[TheDitz idiotic]] JerkAss {{Jerkass}} who ScreamsLikeALittleGirl.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'''s ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'''s DarkerAndEdgier sequel, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'', has Ben and Gwen exhibit different personalities than before, but that's excusable since it's been five years and they've matured. However, there is NO explanation for the change in Kevin, who not only has suffered massive BadassDecay, but is now a [[HeelFaceTurn good guy]] for poorly constructed reasons and shows [[SameCharacterButDifferent no signs of the sociopathic cruelty he did in the original series.]] Now all he can do is be blunt (especially about his [[StrangledByTheRedString crush on Gwen, which came out of nowhere.]]), demonstrate TheWorfEffect, drive them around in his beloved car, and occasionally thrive off of his reputation from back when he was an actual threat. Both ''Ultimate Alien'' AND ''Omniverse'' made attempts at CharacterRerailment, but the fanbase remains perpetually divided over how well either of them went.
1st Mar '17 8:28:58 AM TommyTiger
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' is a major offender: Homer going from a well-intentioned buffoon to a cartoonish idiot to a JerkAss who sometimes has little empathy for those around him, Marge going from a sensible, down-to-earth woman and loving mother to ditzy, snappy housewife who has openly stated she would be much happier without her children, Bart going from an underachieving prankster and troublemaker to a full-time delinquent, and Lisa going from an idealist genius child to the ultra-liberal, activism-obsessed, egocentric, drama queen mini-teenager who she is today. And then there's Maggie, who's mostly a cute baby with a pacifier, but in the episode "Who Shot Mr. Burns?", she gets the JerkassBall and turns into EnfantTerrible baby and the one who shot Mr. Burns. It's implied that she did it ''intentionally''. Some fans were scared shitless of this.
* YMMV, some might find this a TropesAreNotBad example and think Maggie TookALevelInBadass.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' is a major offender: Homer going from a well-intentioned buffoon to a cartoonish idiot to a JerkAss who sometimes has little empathy for those around him, Marge going from a sensible, down-to-earth woman and loving mother to ditzy, snappy housewife who has openly stated she would be much happier without her children, Bart going from an underachieving prankster and troublemaker to a full-time delinquent, and Lisa going from an idealist genius child to the ultra-liberal, activism-obsessed, egocentric, drama queen mini-teenager who she is today. And then there's Maggie, who's mostly a cute baby with a pacifier, but in the episode "Who Shot Mr. Burns?", she gets the JerkassBall and turns into EnfantTerrible baby and the one who shot Mr. Burns. It's implied that she did it ''intentionally''. Some fans were scared shitless of this.
* YMMV, some
this. Some might find this a TropesAreNotBad example and think Maggie TookALevelInBadass.TookALevelInBadass, however.



** ''Nobody'' got it worse than Patty and Selma. They were originally just a couple of gruff curmudgeons who hated Homer and think Marge should divorce Homer, take the kids with her, and remarry. Later seasons would add appalling housekeeping and near-criminal incompetence at their jobs (both arguably even worse than Homer's), not to mention smoking everywhere, including around children and on the job at the DMV (which nearly gets them fired -- until Homer takes the fall for the both of them). Selma would go through three astonishingly bad marriages (and she only wised up after realizing how long her last name was), while Patty became a full-fledged militant lesbian (despite that "Principal Charming" established that Patty is heterosexual and willingly celibate, while Selma has had celibacy thrust upon her and wants to have a husband and kids before she dies alone and unloved). Of course, all this pales next to becoming [[{{Flanderization}} utterly obsessed with trying to end Homer's marriage]], [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing including celebrating his death by buying a tombstone for Marge]], [[MoralEventHorizon trying to kill him by pushing him off a bridge]] (though that was part of Homer's plot to land on the boat where his "Congratulations on Completing Community Service" party is being held. Still the fact that Patty and Selma were willing to kill Homer just because is unsettling)...and attempting again later by reenacting the famous bathroom torture scene from the first ''Film/{{Saw|I}}'' movie.

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** ''Nobody'' got it worse than Patty and Selma. They were originally just a couple of gruff curmudgeons who hated Homer and think Marge should divorce Homer, take the kids with her, and remarry. Later seasons would add appalling housekeeping and near-criminal incompetence at their jobs (both arguably even worse than Homer's), not to mention smoking everywhere, including around children and on the job at the DMV (which nearly gets them fired -- until Homer takes the fall for the both of them). Selma would go through three astonishingly bad marriages (and she only wised up after realizing how long her last name was), while Patty became a full-fledged militant lesbian (despite that "Principal Charming" established that Patty is heterosexual and willingly celibate, while Selma has had celibacy thrust upon her and wants to have a husband and kids before she dies alone and unloved). Of course, all this pales next to becoming a new contender for Most Violent Simpsons Characters, being [[{{Flanderization}} utterly obsessed with trying to end Homer's marriage]], [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing including celebrating his death by buying a tombstone for Marge]], [[MoralEventHorizon trying to kill him by pushing him off a bridge]] (though that was part of Homer's plot to land on the boat where his "Congratulations on Completing Community Service" party is being held. Still the fact that Patty and Selma were willing to kill Homer just because is unsettling)...and attempting again later by reenacting the famous bathroom torture scene from the first ''Film/{{Saw|I}}'' movie.
1st Mar '17 8:26:45 AM TommyTiger
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' is a major offender: Homer going from a well-intentioned buffoon to a cartoonish idiot to a JerkAss who sometimes has little empathy for those around him, Marge going from a sensible, down-to-earth woman and loving mother to ditzy, snappy housewife who has openly stated she would be much happier without her children, Bart going from an underachieving prankster and troublemaker to a full-time delinquent, and Lisa going from an idealist genius child to the ultra-liberal, activism-obsessed, egocentric, drama queen mini-teenager who she is today.
** Maggie got the worst in the titular family. She's mostly a cute baby with a pacifier, but in the episode "Who Shot Mr. Burns?", she gets the JerkassBall and turns into EnfantTerrible baby and the one who shot Mr. Burns. It's implied that she did it ''intentionally''. Some fans were scared shitless of this.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' is a major offender: Homer going from a well-intentioned buffoon to a cartoonish idiot to a JerkAss who sometimes has little empathy for those around him, Marge going from a sensible, down-to-earth woman and loving mother to ditzy, snappy housewife who has openly stated she would be much happier without her children, Bart going from an underachieving prankster and troublemaker to a full-time delinquent, and Lisa going from an idealist genius child to the ultra-liberal, activism-obsessed, egocentric, drama queen mini-teenager who she is today.
** Maggie got the worst in the titular family. She's
today. And then there's Maggie, who's mostly a cute baby with a pacifier, but in the episode "Who Shot Mr. Burns?", she gets the JerkassBall and turns into EnfantTerrible baby and the one who shot Mr. Burns. It's implied that she did it ''intentionally''. Some fans were scared shitless of this.
1st Mar '17 8:25:47 AM TommyTiger
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** Maggie turned out [[NightmareFuel the worst of it all]]. She went from cute baby with a pacifier to cute baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInJerkass who can fire a gun]]''! Some fans even think of her as a nominee for the most violent character in the show (and even others think she's more violent than ''Mr. Burns'' and even '''''Sideshow Bob''''').

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** Maggie turned out [[NightmareFuel got the worst of it all]]. She went from in the titular family. She's mostly a cute baby with a pacifier to cute pacifier, but in the episode "Who Shot Mr. Burns?", she gets the JerkassBall and turns into EnfantTerrible baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInJerkass and the one who can fire a gun]]''! shot Mr. Burns. It's implied that she did it ''intentionally''. Some fans even were scared shitless of this.
* YMMV, some might find this a TropesAreNotBad example and
think of her as a nominee for the most violent character in the show (and even others think she's more violent than ''Mr. Burns'' and even '''''Sideshow Bob''''').Maggie TookALevelInBadass.
27th Feb '17 7:07:07 AM TommyTiger
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** Mr. Krabs is just as bad, going from [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold greedy and selfish but a good heart beneath it all]] and a positive character compared to Plankton, to a big fat [[{{Jerkass}} meaner]] who is [[DesignatedHero ''worse'' than Plankton, yet is still treated like a good guy]], [[KarmaHoudini which lets him get away with most of his crimes.]]

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** Mr. Krabs is just as bad, going from [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold greedy and selfish but a good heart beneath it all]] and a positive character compared to Plankton, to a big fat [[{{Jerkass}} meaner]] who is ''[[DesignatedHero worse]]'' [[DesignatedHero ''worse'' than Plankton, yet is still treated like a good guy]], [[KarmaHoudini which lets him get away with most of his crimes.]]
27th Feb '17 7:02:43 AM TommyTiger
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** Mr. Krabs is just as bad, going from [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold greedy and selfish but a good heart beneath it all]] and a positive character compared to Plankton, to a complete and utter {{Jerkass}} who is [[DesignatedHero WORSE than Plankton, yet is still treated like a good guy]] and [[KarmaHoudini gets away with most of his crimes.]]

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** Mr. Krabs is just as bad, going from [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold greedy and selfish but a good heart beneath it all]] and a positive character compared to Plankton, to a complete and utter {{Jerkass}} big fat [[{{Jerkass}} meaner]] who is [[DesignatedHero WORSE ''worse'' than Plankton, yet is still treated like a good guy]] and guy]], [[KarmaHoudini gets which lets him get away with most of his crimes.]]


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*** Kyle also gets derailed in some "Kyle vs. Cartman" episodes. He's mostly somewhat [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] but otherwise nice and definitely a positive character compared to Cartman, but some episodes have him be a [[{{Jerkass}} rude]] KnightTemplar who is [[NotSoDifferent as bad as Cartman]], if not ''worse'', [[DesignatedHero yet we're still supposed to root for him]], [[KarmaHoudini getting away with some questionable deeds such as laughing at Cartman when the latter gets HIV]]. This characterization of Kyle is also used in other episodes, such as "Douche and Turd", where he uses Puff Daddy to [[WithFriendsLikeThese intimidate Stan]] into voting, and "Fatbeard", where he is willing to send Cartman's entire Pirate crew to their death in Somalia.
30th Dec '16 8:45:35 PM nombretomado
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* In almost a reversal of the aforementioned Bloo example, Rufus and Amberley of ''TheDreamstone'', despite always being cutesy and cheery protagonists in contrast to their enemies, had some visible cynical traits and flaws in their own right in the pilot (Rufus was a CloudCuckooLander BadassAdorable while Amberley was a [[BrattyHalfPint moody tempered]] but thoroughly helpful [[VitriolicBestBuds Vitriolic Best Bud]]) and had almost an equal focus in sympathetic spotlight and humor as the villains. In the majority of later episodes, the two became [[TastesLikeDiabetes ridiculously juvenile]] and [[TheLoad ineffectual]], to the point their interaction was often extremely uneventful until [[VillainProtagonist the Urpneys]] [[TheVillainMakesThePlot attacked them every episode]].

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* In almost a reversal of the aforementioned Bloo example, Rufus and Amberley of ''TheDreamstone'', ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'', despite always being cutesy and cheery protagonists in contrast to their enemies, had some visible cynical traits and flaws in their own right in the pilot (Rufus was a CloudCuckooLander BadassAdorable while Amberley was a [[BrattyHalfPint moody tempered]] but thoroughly helpful [[VitriolicBestBuds Vitriolic Best Bud]]) and had almost an equal focus in sympathetic spotlight and humor as the villains. In the majority of later episodes, the two became [[TastesLikeDiabetes ridiculously juvenile]] and [[TheLoad ineffectual]], to the point their interaction was often extremely uneventful until [[VillainProtagonist the Urpneys]] [[TheVillainMakesThePlot attacked them every episode]].
26th Dec '16 8:38:35 AM ThraggLootrippa
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*** In fact, some recent episodes show that the derailment has effectively inverted the Ned-Homer dynamic, as now Homer is a happy-go-lucky idiot with Ned loathing him effectively just for existing. One episode actually cover this in that the reason Homer realized he hated Ned because he always found him better than him and move on while Ned reasons to resent Homer in later seasons is that he keeps calling him Stupid Flanders and demeans him ''in front of Rod and Todd'' they end up making amend.

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*** In fact, some recent episodes show that the derailment has effectively inverted the Ned-Homer dynamic, as now Homer is a happy-go-lucky idiot with Ned loathing him effectively just for existing. One episode actually cover this covers this, in that the reason Homer realized the reason he hated Ned was because he always found him better than him and move on moved on, while Ned Ned's reasons to resent Homer in later seasons is that he Homer keeps calling him Stupid Flanders within earshot of him and demeans him ''in front of Rod and Todd'' Todd'', they end up making amend.amends.
20th Dec '16 9:32:03 PM TommyTiger
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** On contrast, Maggie turned out pretty good. She went from cute baby with a pacifier to cute baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInBadass who can fire a gun]]''! Some fans [[TropesAreNotGood think of this]] [[NightmareFuel otherwise]], though...

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** On contrast, Maggie turned out pretty good. [[NightmareFuel the worst of it all]]. She went from cute baby with a pacifier to cute baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInBadass ''[[TookALevelInJerkass who can fire a gun]]''! Some fans [[TropesAreNotGood even think of this]] [[NightmareFuel otherwise]], though...her as a nominee for the most violent character in the show (and even others think she's more violent than ''Mr. Burns'' and even '''''Sideshow Bob''''').
9th Nov '16 6:42:34 AM TommyTiger
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** Maggie turned out pretty good, though. She went from cute baby with a pacifier to cute baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInBadass who can fire a gun]]''!

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** On contrast, Maggie turned out pretty good, though. good. She went from cute baby with a pacifier to cute baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInBadass who can fire a gun]]''!gun]]''! Some fans [[TropesAreNotGood think of this]] [[NightmareFuel otherwise]], though...



* Quite a few characters in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' have also warped considerably since their first appearances, especially after the show's return to production in 2005. Among the many examples, Stewie, previously a humorously sociopathic EnfanteTerrible with matricidal tendencies, now seems to simply be Brian's effeminate sidekick (though his violent tendencies do occasionally show up), while Brian has changed from a [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] intellectual ironically portrayed as vastly more intelligent than his owner Peter, to mainly a preacher for the writers' liberal political views and TheChewToy concerning his inability to quit drinking, be a good writer, and hold a relationship. Lois, while at first as the down to earth one of the family, albeit with a somewhat healthy sexual appetite, has become pretty much an insane nymphomaniac. Meg has evolved from merely a unpopular high-school girl trying to fit in to an abused, suicidal psycho of epic proportions. Peter himself, while always a bumbling idiot but with slightly good intentions (like Homer Simpson, only fatter, meaner, and more into pop culture from the 1970s and 1980s), has become a JerkAss KarmaHoudini (making Homer Simpson look like the clueless, yet caring BumblingDad he was in the early days of ''TheSimpsons''), though this has been toned down somewhat in later episodes. Around Season 11, Chris TookALevelInJerkass just like his parents.

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* Quite a few characters in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' have also warped considerably since their first appearances, especially after the show's return to production in 2005. Among the many examples, Stewie, previously a humorously sociopathic EnfanteTerrible with matricidal tendencies, now seems to simply be Brian's effeminate sidekick (though his violent tendencies do occasionally show up), while Brian has changed from a [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] intellectual ironically portrayed as vastly more intelligent than his owner Peter, to mainly a preacher for the writers' liberal political views and TheChewToy concerning his inability to quit drinking, be a good writer, and hold a relationship. Lois, while at first as the down to earth one of the family, albeit with a somewhat healthy sexual appetite, has become pretty much an insane nymphomaniac. Meg has evolved from merely a unpopular high-school girl trying to fit in to an abused, suicidal psycho of epic proportions. Peter himself, while always a bumbling idiot but with slightly good intentions (like Homer Simpson, only fatter, meaner, and more into pop culture from the 1970s and 1980s), has become a JerkAss KarmaHoudini (making Homer Simpson look like the clueless, yet caring BumblingDad he was in the early days of ''TheSimpsons''), though this has been toned down somewhat in later episodes.''TheSimpsons''). Around Season 11, Chris TookALevelInJerkass just like his parents. All of this has been toned down somewhat in later episodes, though.


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** Fortunately, [[CharacterRerailment they've all been rerailed after Hillenburg came back]].
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