History CharacterDerailment / WesternAnimation

9th Nov '16 6:42:34 AM TommyTiger
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** Maggie turned out pretty good, though. She went from cute baby with a pacifier to cute baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInBadass who can fire a gun]]''!

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** On contrast, Maggie turned out pretty good, though. good. She went from cute baby with a pacifier to cute baby with pacifier ''[[TookALevelInBadass who can fire a gun]]''!gun]]''! Some fans [[TropesAreNotGood think of this]] [[NightmareFuel otherwise]], though...



* Quite a few characters in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' have also warped considerably since their first appearances, especially after the show's return to production in 2005. Among the many examples, Stewie, previously a humorously sociopathic EnfanteTerrible with matricidal tendencies, now seems to simply be Brian's effeminate sidekick (though his violent tendencies do occasionally show up), while Brian has changed from a [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] intellectual ironically portrayed as vastly more intelligent than his owner Peter, to mainly a preacher for the writers' liberal political views and TheChewToy concerning his inability to quit drinking, be a good writer, and hold a relationship. Lois, while at first as the down to earth one of the family, albeit with a somewhat healthy sexual appetite, has become pretty much an insane nymphomaniac. Meg has evolved from merely a unpopular high-school girl trying to fit in to an abused, suicidal psycho of epic proportions. Peter himself, while always a bumbling idiot but with slightly good intentions (like Homer Simpson, only fatter, meaner, and more into pop culture from the 1970s and 1980s), has become a JerkAss KarmaHoudini (making Homer Simpson look like the clueless, yet caring BumblingDad he was in the early days of ''TheSimpsons''), though this has been toned down somewhat in later episodes. Around Season 11, Chris TookALevelInJerkass just like his parents.

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* Quite a few characters in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' have also warped considerably since their first appearances, especially after the show's return to production in 2005. Among the many examples, Stewie, previously a humorously sociopathic EnfanteTerrible with matricidal tendencies, now seems to simply be Brian's effeminate sidekick (though his violent tendencies do occasionally show up), while Brian has changed from a [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] intellectual ironically portrayed as vastly more intelligent than his owner Peter, to mainly a preacher for the writers' liberal political views and TheChewToy concerning his inability to quit drinking, be a good writer, and hold a relationship. Lois, while at first as the down to earth one of the family, albeit with a somewhat healthy sexual appetite, has become pretty much an insane nymphomaniac. Meg has evolved from merely a unpopular high-school girl trying to fit in to an abused, suicidal psycho of epic proportions. Peter himself, while always a bumbling idiot but with slightly good intentions (like Homer Simpson, only fatter, meaner, and more into pop culture from the 1970s and 1980s), has become a JerkAss KarmaHoudini (making Homer Simpson look like the clueless, yet caring BumblingDad he was in the early days of ''TheSimpsons''), though this has been toned down somewhat in later episodes.''TheSimpsons''). Around Season 11, Chris TookALevelInJerkass just like his parents. All of this has been toned down somewhat in later episodes, though.


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** Fortunately, [[CharacterRerailment they've all been rerailed after Hillenburg came back]].
7th Nov '16 1:33:21 PM ElectroKraken
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* Moe is also worth a mention. When he first appeared, he was merely a surly and cynical bartender, who was a pretty decent guy despite his rough edges. In later episodes (around Season 11 onwards), he's a miserable wretch and registered sex offender who conducts numerous illegal operations, tries to kill himself every other episode, and constantly lusts after women in revolting manners.

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* ** Moe is also worth a mention. When he first appeared, he was merely a surly and cynical bartender, who was a pretty decent guy despite his rough edges. In later episodes (around Season 11 onwards), he's a miserable wretch and registered sex offender who conducts numerous illegal operations, tries to kill himself every other episode, and constantly lusts after women in revolting manners.
10th Oct '16 7:59:24 PM MagnusForce
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* ''TheSimpsons'' is a major offender: Homer going from a well-intentioned buffoon to a cartoonish idiot to a JerkAss who sometimes has little empathy for those around him, Marge going from a sensible, down-to-earth woman to ditzy, snappy housewife, Bart going from an underachieving prankster and troublemaker to a full-time delinquent, and Lisa going from an idealist genius child to the ultra-liberal, activism-obsessed, egocentric, drama queen mini-teenager who she is today.

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* ''TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' is a major offender: Homer going from a well-intentioned buffoon to a cartoonish idiot to a JerkAss who sometimes has little empathy for those around him, Marge going from a sensible, down-to-earth woman and loving mother to ditzy, snappy housewife, housewife who has openly stated she would be much happier without her children, Bart going from an underachieving prankster and troublemaker to a full-time delinquent, and Lisa going from an idealist genius child to the ultra-liberal, activism-obsessed, egocentric, drama queen mini-teenager who she is today.



** ''Nobody'' got it worse than Patty and Selma. They were originally just a couple of gruff curmudgeons who hated Homer and think Marge should divorce Homer, take the kids with her, and remarry. Later seasons would add appalling housekeeping and near-criminal incompetence at their jobs (both arguably even worse than Homer's), not to mention smoking everywhere, including around children and on the job at the DMV (which nearly gets them fired -- until Homer takes the fall for the both of them). Selma would go through three astonishingly bad marriages (and she only wised up after realizing how long her last name was), while Patty became a full-fledged militant lesbian (despite that "Principal Charming" established that Patty is heterosexual[[note]]though the "Treehouse of Horror" story with the killer Krusty doll had her declare that she became a lesbian after she saw Homer run naked through the kitchen[[/note]] and willingly celibate, while Selma has had celibacy thrust upon her and wants to have a husband and kids before she dies alone and unloved). Of course, all this pales next to becoming [[{{Flanderization}} utterly obsessed with trying to end Homer's marriage]], [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing including celebrating his death by buying a tombstone for Marge]], [[MoralEventHorizon trying to kill him by pushing him off a bridge]] (though that was part of Homer's plot to land on the boat where his "Congratulations on Completing Community Service" party is being held. Still the fact that Patty and Selma were willing to kill Homer just because is unsettling)...and attempting again later by reenacting the famous bathroom torture scene from the first ''Film/{{Saw|I}}'' movie.

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** ''Nobody'' got it worse than Patty and Selma. They were originally just a couple of gruff curmudgeons who hated Homer and think Marge should divorce Homer, take the kids with her, and remarry. Later seasons would add appalling housekeeping and near-criminal incompetence at their jobs (both arguably even worse than Homer's), not to mention smoking everywhere, including around children and on the job at the DMV (which nearly gets them fired -- until Homer takes the fall for the both of them). Selma would go through three astonishingly bad marriages (and she only wised up after realizing how long her last name was), while Patty became a full-fledged militant lesbian (despite that "Principal Charming" established that Patty is heterosexual[[note]]though the "Treehouse of Horror" story with the killer Krusty doll had her declare that she became a lesbian after she saw Homer run naked through the kitchen[[/note]] heterosexual and willingly celibate, while Selma has had celibacy thrust upon her and wants to have a husband and kids before she dies alone and unloved). Of course, all this pales next to becoming [[{{Flanderization}} utterly obsessed with trying to end Homer's marriage]], [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing including celebrating his death by buying a tombstone for Marge]], [[MoralEventHorizon trying to kill him by pushing him off a bridge]] (though that was part of Homer's plot to land on the boat where his "Congratulations on Completing Community Service" party is being held. Still the fact that Patty and Selma were willing to kill Homer just because is unsettling)...and attempting again later by reenacting the famous bathroom torture scene from the first ''Film/{{Saw|I}}'' movie.movie.
* Moe is also worth a mention. When he first appeared, he was merely a surly and cynical bartender, who was a pretty decent guy despite his rough edges. In later episodes (around Season 11 onwards), he's a miserable wretch and registered sex offender who conducts numerous illegal operations, tries to kill himself every other episode, and constantly lusts after women in revolting manners.



*** In the first few episodes, Bloo was still sort of the nice but mischievous character he was in the pilot, but was driven sort of neurotic by Herriman's obsessive rules. Even during these episodes, he seemed to be subtly shifting toward being ruder and ruder.
** Also, Madame Foster. [[InformedAttribute According to everyone else on the show]], she's supposed to be the sweetest ([[CoolOldLady and coolest]]) grandma ever and an absolute saint of a human being; in some episodes, she does live up to this reputation. Yet in the infamous Season 3 episode "Foster's Goes To Europe", she ruins a European vacation which the gang planned to go on (and spent the entire episode struggling to get ready for) by stealing eight-year-old Mac's tickets at the very last minute. The episode ends with Madame Foster, her bowling buddies and a homesick imaginary friend called Eurotrish going on the vacation instead, while poor Mac is [[ComedicSociopathy wrongly and unfairly]] [[NoSympathy blamed by everyone else]] for missing the trip. In the same exact episode, Madame Foster also unties a group of defenseless imaginary balloons which sends them flying into the sky ([[InferredHolocaust and inevitable demise]]). For no reason at all. None. [[SarcasmMode Wonderful lady indeed]]!

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*** In the first few episodes, Bloo was still sort of the nice but mischievous character he was ** Madam Foster in the pilot, but was driven sort of neurotic by Herriman's obsessive rules. Even during these episodes, he seemed to be subtly shifting toward being ruder and ruder.
** Also, Madame Foster. [[InformedAttribute
infamous Season 3 episode "Foster's Goes To Europe". According to everyone else on the show]], show, she's supposed to be the sweetest ([[CoolOldLady and coolest]]) coolest grandma ever and an absolute saint of a human being; in some the majority of episodes, she does live up to this reputation. Yet in the infamous Season 3 episode "Foster's Goes To Europe", she ruins a European vacation which the gang planned to go on (and spent the entire episode struggling to get ready for) by stealing eight-year-old Mac's tickets at the very last minute. The episode ends with Madame Foster, her bowling buddies and a homesick imaginary friend called Eurotrish going on the vacation instead, while poor Mac is [[ComedicSociopathy wrongly and unfairly]] [[NoSympathy blamed by everyone else]] for missing the trip. In the same exact episode, Madame Madam Foster also unties a group of defenseless imaginary balloons which sends them flying into the sky ([[InferredHolocaust and inevitable demise]]).sky. For no reason at all. None. [[SarcasmMode Wonderful lady indeed]]!
10th Oct '16 7:42:43 PM MagnusForce
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* The titular WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes was first introduced as a contagiously cheerful boy who sought to put a smile on everyone's face and become their friend. He loved everyone equally (even Lucius who was usually harmed by his antics unintentionally). He was also hindered by being a little childish and naïve yet he could be surprisingly clever in weird ways. In Season 2, he had become a crazed idiot who behaved like a grade schooler and only treated his PoisonousFriend Beezy with any real respect. His love for spreading smiles had been corrupted into hedonistic idiocy that often made the Miseryvillians' lives more miserable instead. A complete flip of his character and what the second season's intro boasts about.

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* The titular WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes was first introduced as a contagiously cheerful boy who sought to put a smile on everyone's face and become their friend. He loved everyone equally (even Lucius who was usually harmed by his antics unintentionally). He was also hindered by being a little childish and naïve yet he could be surprisingly clever in weird ways. In Season 2, he had become a crazed idiot who behaved like a grade schooler and only treated his PoisonousFriend Beezy with any real respect. His love for spreading smiles had been corrupted into hedonistic idiocy that often made the Miseryvillians' lives more miserable instead. A complete flip of his character and what the second season's intro boasts about.about.
** Heloise got it even worse. In Season 1, she was a sadistic and evil MadScientist rightfully feared by everybody for her LackOfEmpathy and a level of cruelty surpassing [[{{Satan}} Lucius Heinous VII]], despite her petite appearance. Yet she had a sweet side hidden underneath when it came to a certain Jimmy Two-Shoes (and only to Jimmy!), but even in that case she was still quite the {{Yandere}}, who could even frighten Jimmy. Season 2's Heloise? A generically smart OnlySaneWoman who showed her soft side far more than she should and became solely defined by her lust for Jimmy (not that shippers minded though...), while her status among Miseryvillians as TheDreaded was replaced with her becoming the biggest ButtMonkey on the show after [[BeleagueredAssistant Samy]] and treated as general laughingstock by most characters. Sheesh.
22nd Sep '16 5:52:17 PM nombretomado
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*** WordOfGod for ''Ben10Omniverse'' is that this derailment actually held Charmcaster up in appearing on the show throughout the first half, as it was very difficult to think up a CharacterRerailment that would make enough sense after it. They ultimately opted for a {{Retcon}} of the above event through a complete lack of mention in the show and adding in dialogue that directly contradicts it if it were to have happened.
** And let's not forget the very complex case the entire franchise has with titular protagonist Ben Tennyson; he started out as a immature brat, an IdiotHero and a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass with a major ChronicHeroSyndrome, before being evolved into a more mature and competent character in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce''. Come season 3 of Alien Force, he TookALevelInJerkass [[TookALevelInDumbass and in Dumbass]] due partially to an AcquiredSituationalNarcissism and partially an attempt from writers to make him more like his original self. Ben10UltimateAlien tried to balance his maturity and immaturity, with more or less successful results depending on the episodes and story arcs. Finally, come Ben10Omniverse, the character has seemingly lost most of his maturity and competence he gained through the Alien Force / Ultimate Alien era, and ended up all the way back to his characterization from the original show.

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*** WordOfGod for ''Ben10Omniverse'' ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' is that this derailment actually held Charmcaster up in appearing on the show throughout the first half, as it was very difficult to think up a CharacterRerailment that would make enough sense after it. They ultimately opted for a {{Retcon}} of the above event through a complete lack of mention in the show and adding in dialogue that directly contradicts it if it were to have happened.
** And let's not forget the very complex case the entire franchise has with titular protagonist Ben Tennyson; he started out as a immature brat, an IdiotHero and a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass with a major ChronicHeroSyndrome, before being evolved into a more mature and competent character in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce''. Come season 3 of Alien Force, he TookALevelInJerkass [[TookALevelInDumbass and in Dumbass]] due partially to an AcquiredSituationalNarcissism and partially an attempt from writers to make him more like his original self. Ben10UltimateAlien WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien tried to balance his maturity and immaturity, with more or less successful results depending on the episodes and story arcs. Finally, come Ben10Omniverse, WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse, the character has seemingly lost most of his maturity and competence he gained through the Alien Force / Ultimate Alien era, and ended up all the way back to his characterization from the original show.
13th Aug '16 8:38:58 AM 313Bluestreak
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** Diesel 10, who currently provides the page image, is a very unique case of derailment. In his debut in ''WesternAnimation/ThomasAndTheMagicRailroad'', he was a murderous monster who was out for blood, wanting to completely and utterly destroy the steam engines. In his second appearance in ''Calling All Engines'', he's somehow become nicer with almost no given explanation, and quite willingly helps Thomas repair the new Sodor Airport. In his defense, it was related more to necessity since a decline in tourists brought in by the airport in question would've spelt doom for the entire railway, including him. Even so, he doesn't display any sort of gruffness or malice, and again, does it with a big ''smile'' on his face! However, when brought in for the CGI series, he became more of a mix of the two. Whilst he certainly wasn't nice like he was in CAE, it wasn't up to his TATMR persona, as he's now become more of a WellIntentionedExtremist in that he wants his fellow diesels to receive more praise and attention than what they have, believing that they've become overlooked in favor of the steam engines, and while he certainly doesn't LIKE them, he does realize when he's gone too far whenever he deals with them. It has given him more of a personality though, as some felt that his TATMR appearance was more of a GenericDoomsdayVillain than an actual character.

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** Diesel 10, who currently provides the page image, is a very unique case of derailment. In his debut in ''WesternAnimation/ThomasAndTheMagicRailroad'', he was a murderous monster who was out for blood, wanting to completely and utterly destroy the steam engines. In his second appearance in ''Calling All Engines'', ''WesternAnimation/CallingAllEngines'', he's somehow become nicer with almost no given explanation, and quite willingly helps Thomas repair the new Sodor Airport. In his defense, it was related more to necessity since a decline in tourists brought in by the airport in question would've spelt doom for the entire railway, including him. Even so, he doesn't display any sort of gruffness or malice, and again, does it with a big ''smile'' on his face! However, when brought in for the CGI series, he became more of a mix of the two. Whilst he certainly wasn't nice like he was in CAE, it wasn't up to his TATMR persona, as he's now become more of a WellIntentionedExtremist in that he wants his fellow diesels to receive more praise and attention than what they have, believing that they've become overlooked in favor of the steam engines, and while he certainly doesn't LIKE them, he does realize when he's gone too far whenever he deals with them. It has given him more of a personality though, as some felt that his TATMR appearance was more of a GenericDoomsdayVillain than an actual character.
10th Aug '16 12:34:14 AM Anddrix
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* While Lemongrab of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' was always a huge BaseBreaker, and even the staff of the show had different opinions of him, after his first apppearance the show seemed to lean towards the idea that he wasn't truly evil, just really messed up. In his story in the third collection of character shorts, he seemingly devours his twin brother. In his next appearance, we see that he's become a tyrant who abuses his now maimed brother, and torments his lemon children when he had previously been portrayed as a loving parent. At the end of the episode, he fully eats his kinder brother, and loses any of the redeeming traits he may have had before. The next episode continues to show him keeping the lemon kingdom in misery, torturing his subjects for fun. He's ultimately torn apart, and then stitched back together, the characters suggesting that ''now'' maybe he'll be better. The only thing more sour than Lemongrab is the taste the whole thing left in his fans' mouths.

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* While Lemongrab of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' was always a huge BaseBreaker, BaseBreakingCharacter, and even the staff of the show had different opinions of him, after his first apppearance the show seemed to lean towards the idea that he wasn't truly evil, just really messed up. In his story in the third collection of character shorts, he seemingly devours his twin brother. In his next appearance, we see that he's become a tyrant who abuses his now maimed brother, and torments his lemon children when he had previously been portrayed as a loving parent. At the end of the episode, he fully eats his kinder brother, and loses any of the redeeming traits he may have had before. The next episode continues to show him keeping the lemon kingdom in misery, torturing his subjects for fun. He's ultimately torn apart, and then stitched back together, the characters suggesting that ''now'' maybe he'll be better. The only thing more sour than Lemongrab is the taste the whole thing left in his fans' mouths.
19th Jul '16 10:35:56 AM trixus
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*** In fact, some recent episodes show that the derailment has effectively inverted the Ned-Homer dynamic, as now Homer is a happy-go-lucky idiot with Ned loathing him effectively just for existing. One episode actually cover this in that the reason Homer realized he hated Ned because he always found him better than him and move on while Ned reasons to resent Homer in later seasons is that he keep calling him Stupid Flanders ''in front of his Rod and Todd'' they end up making amend.

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*** In fact, some recent episodes show that the derailment has effectively inverted the Ned-Homer dynamic, as now Homer is a happy-go-lucky idiot with Ned loathing him effectively just for existing. One episode actually cover this in that the reason Homer realized he hated Ned because he always found him better than him and move on while Ned reasons to resent Homer in later seasons is that he keep keeps calling him Stupid Flanders and demeans him ''in front of his of Rod and Todd'' they end up making amend.
19th Jul '16 10:34:54 AM trixus
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*** In fact, some recent episodes show that the derailment has effectively inverted the Ned-Homer dynamic, as now Homer is a happy-go-lucky idiot with Ned loathing him effectively just for existing.
** C. Montgomery Burns went through VillainDecay like hell. In early seasons, Burns was a downright sadistic and evil old miser who generally treated his employees like crap, stole from children, tried to block out the sun (for money), and at one point planned on turning a litter of puppies into a fur coat. Turn to later seasons and he's just a feeble old man who is more ineffectual than anything else and serves more as fodder for jokes about being behind the times then anything else.

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*** In fact, some recent episodes show that the derailment has effectively inverted the Ned-Homer dynamic, as now Homer is a happy-go-lucky idiot with Ned loathing him effectively just for existing.
existing. One episode actually cover this in that the reason Homer realized he hated Ned because he always found him better than him and move on while Ned reasons to resent Homer in later seasons is that he keep calling him Stupid Flanders ''in front of his Rod and Todd'' they end up making amend.
** C. Montgomery Burns went through VillainDecay like hell. In early seasons, Burns was a downright sadistic and evil old miser who generally treated his employees like crap, stole from children, tried to block out the sun (for money), and at one point planned on turning a litter of puppies into a fur coat. Turn to later seasons and he's just a feeble old man who is more ineffectual than anything else and serves more as fodder for jokes about being behind the times then anything else. Although every now and then he gets a ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat moment and ends up doing plot such as launching his environmental hazards on the Amazonian forest or putting Mona Simpson on the run from justice out of spite.
16th Jul '16 10:35:40 AM nombretomado
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* Pam in {{Archer}} became a completely different character as the series went on. Starting off as a pleasant but lonely and depressed HR rep, she turned into a sex-crazed, drug addicted complete loon. Though as always, TropesAreNotBad, as many fans enjoy this version of Pam ''much'' more.
* Many characters in ''WesternAnimation/{{American Dad}} got this. For example:

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* Pam in {{Archer}} ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' became a completely different character as the series went on. Starting off as a pleasant but lonely and depressed HR rep, she turned into a sex-crazed, drug addicted complete loon. Though as always, TropesAreNotBad, as many fans enjoy this version of Pam ''much'' more.
* Many characters in ''WesternAnimation/{{American Dad}} Dad}}'' got this. For example:
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