History CharacterDerailment / VideoGames

7th Mar '17 9:11:35 PM AlinhoAlisson
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** Krystal wasn't the only victim of ''Command'''s writing. We also have Fox, who kicked Krystal off the team despite being okay with her going to a galaxy-wide war in the [[VideoGame/StarFoxAssault previous game]]; Star Wolf, who no longer want to be the villains and try to save the system by themselves; Even Leon, a sadistic psychopath in previous entries, openly says he wants to help the "weaklings" and wants a parade with flowers all for himself. None of these changes are ever explained in the TimeSkip intro cutscene, nor in the game itself.
16th Feb '17 4:01:56 AM Morgenthaler
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16th Feb '17 4:01:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* The most common criticism of ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM'' is its characterization of Samus Aran, which is nearly impossible to reconcile with the way she usually acts. Samus is traditionally a competent, cunning and fearless bounty hunter who lives to beat the crap out of criminals and confidently hangs around trashy bars wearing almost nothing on her off time. ''Other M'' instead presents her as a very submissive and dim woman who is incapable of making her own decisions, terrified of enemies she's effortlessly killed hundreds of in the past, obsessed with maternity, and blindly loyal to a guy who treats her like garbage. If this were a prequel of some sort showing Samus before she became the warrior we know her as, it might make sense, but chronologically this is the ''seventh game'' in the series, and in the preceding and following games, she's her normal badass self.
** Adam Malkovich gets hit with this as well in ''Other M''. He was introduced in ''MetroidFusion'' as a very competent, gruff former-CO of Samus', who had a possibly-flirty and certainly friendly working relationship with her before he made some heroic sacrifice to save her life. [[spoiler:Also, he isn't dead due to MindUploading. Through the game he indeed maintains a professional working relationship with Samus, and he ends up being vital to stopping the unfolding disaster at the end of the game via a superior tactical mind to hers.]] In ''Other M''? He gets almost his entire squad killed through incredibly poor strategic decisions, treats Samus with ''at best'' callous indifference (and at worst [[UnfortunateImplications outright mentally and physically abuses her]]), and that heroic sacrifice is [[StupidSacrifice entirely pointless]].

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The most common criticism of ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM'' is its characterization of Samus Aran, which is nearly impossible to reconcile with the way she usually acts. Samus is traditionally a competent, cunning and fearless bounty hunter who lives to beat the crap out of criminals and confidently hangs around trashy bars wearing almost nothing on her off time. ''Other M'' instead presents her as a very submissive and dim woman who is incapable of making her own decisions, terrified of enemies she's effortlessly killed hundreds of in the past, obsessed with maternity, and blindly loyal to a guy who treats her like garbage. If this were a prequel of some sort showing Samus before she became the warrior we know her as, it might make sense, but chronologically this is the ''seventh game'' in the series, and in the preceding and following games, she's her normal badass self.
** Adam Malkovich gets hit with this as well in ''Other M''. He was introduced in ''MetroidFusion'' ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'' as a very competent, gruff former-CO of Samus', who had a possibly-flirty and certainly friendly working relationship with her before he made some heroic sacrifice to save her life. [[spoiler:Also, he isn't dead due to MindUploading. Through the game he indeed maintains a professional working relationship with Samus, and he ends up being vital to stopping the unfolding disaster at the end of the game via a superior tactical mind to hers.]] In ''Other M''? He gets almost his entire squad killed through incredibly poor strategic decisions, treats Samus with ''at best'' callous indifference (and at worst [[UnfortunateImplications outright mentally and physically abuses her]]), and that heroic sacrifice is [[StupidSacrifice entirely pointless]].
13th Feb '17 3:41:31 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** YHVH, well known in the franchise as the embodiment of the Law alignment. A TautologicalTemplar of the worst order, he is usually portrayed as someone whose law is the only law and is incapable of acknowledge any other view. But as a result of that, He is also portrayed as someone who believes their existence so absolute that everyone else should fear and submit to Him and that He himself should fear none, best shown when He challenges those He views as sinners to step forward. In ''Apocalypse'' meanwhile He is portrayed as something of a petty coward who is just full of empty words, afraid of humanity, who seems to [[StrawHypocrite not even believe His own words]] which He preach. And when he get's demonized, instead of shouting words of rage and hatred, or delivering a DyingCurse, he is left [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for his existence]]. And in terms of goals, He might as well be a different character altogether. Typically, YHVH desires to create a kingdom for His chosen under His rule where evil does not exist and everyone are equal (the problem usually tend to be what happens to those not among his chosen ones). In Apocalypse meanwhile he simply seems to have no real endgame goal, only being concerned with keeping the ForeverWar between Law and Chaos going on in a vain attempt to make His side look better.
* When we first see Scarecrow in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'', he is shown to be an AxCrazy GigglingVillain who always acts overdramatic very much like his comic book counterpart. But then when he reappears in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' [[TheOtherDarrin with a new voice actor]], his personality did a complete 180 turn and now he is a SoftSpokenSadist who has a penchant for CreepyMonotone HannibalLecture and did not laugh at least once. The only hand-wave that comes from his sudden change is that he got brutally mauled by Killer Croc in their previous confrontation.

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** YHVH, well known in the franchise as the embodiment of the Law alignment. A TautologicalTemplar of the worst order, he is usually portrayed as someone whose law is the only law and is incapable of acknowledge any other view. But as a result of that, He is also portrayed as someone who believes their existence so absolute that everyone else should fear and submit to Him and that He himself should fear none, best shown when He challenges those He views as sinners to step forward. In ''Apocalypse'' meanwhile He is portrayed as something of a petty coward who is just full of empty words, afraid of humanity, who seems to [[StrawHypocrite not even believe His own words]] which He preach. And when he get's demonized, instead of shouting words of rage and hatred, or delivering a DyingCurse, he is left [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for his existence]]. And in terms of goals, He might as well be a different character altogether. Typically, YHVH desires to create a kingdom for His chosen under His rule where evil does not exist and everyone are equal (the problem usually tend to be what happens to those not among his chosen ones). In Apocalypse meanwhile he simply seems to have no real endgame goal, only being concerned with keeping the ForeverWar between Law and Chaos going on in a vain attempt to make His side look better.
* When we first see Scarecrow in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'', he is shown to be an AxCrazy GigglingVillain who always acts overdramatic very much like his comic book counterpart. But then when he reappears in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' [[TheOtherDarrin with a new voice actor]], his personality did a complete 180 turn and now he is a SoftSpokenSadist who has a penchant for CreepyMonotone HannibalLecture and did not laugh at least once. The only hand-wave that comes from his sudden change is that he got brutally mauled by Killer Croc in their previous confrontation.
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14th Jan '17 7:36:21 AM Steven
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** From the [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney same game]], Ema Skye. Ema first appeared in the [[UpdatedRerelease DS version exclusive]] Case 1-5 and was introduced as an upbeat, cheerful girl with a [[DarkAndTroubledPast dark past]] and an '''intense''' love for forensic science. At the end of the case, she left to study forensic science abroad. When she reappears seven years later, she takes over the role of the detective of the game. The girl who was so into science became a police detective instead. In-Universe, it's [[HandWave explained]] that she ''did'' take the test to become part of the forensic science team, but failed. She still retains her love for forensic science, but even that seems to have taken a damper and she isn't as wide-eyed about it as she used to be, and outside of those few moments, she comes across as an extremely bitter young woman who didn't get the job she wanted and decides to just mope about it, doing a half-assed job, instead of trying to change things.

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** From the [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney same game]], Ema Skye. Ema first appeared in the [[UpdatedRerelease DS version exclusive]] Case 1-5 and was introduced as an upbeat, cheerful girl with a [[DarkAndTroubledPast dark past]] and an '''intense''' love for forensic science. At the end of the case, she left to study forensic science abroad. When she reappears seven years later, she takes over the role of the detective of the game. The girl who was so into science became a police detective instead. In-Universe, it's [[HandWave explained]] that she ''did'' take the test to become part of the forensic science team, but failed. She still retains her love for forensic science, but even that seems to have taken a damper and she isn't as wide-eyed about it as she used to be, and outside of those few moments, she comes across as an extremely bitter young woman who didn't get the job she wanted and decides to just mope about it, doing a half-assed job, instead of trying to change things. Her personality gets better in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice'' where she finally passes her exam and becomes the forensics scientist she strived to be.
2nd Jan '17 8:59:03 AM Morgenthaler
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** Though he was still planning to kill her at the start of Starcraft2, he just learned that her survival was necessary to the survival of all life in the galaxy.

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** Though he was still planning to kill her at the start of Starcraft2, ''VideoGame/Starcraft2'', he just learned that her survival was necessary to the survival of all life in the galaxy.
6th Dec '16 12:19:01 AM matteste
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** YHVH, well known in the franchise as the embodiment of the Law alignment. A TautologicalTemplar of the worst order, he is usually portrayed as someone whose law is the only law and is incapable of acknowledge any other view. But as a result of that, He is also portrayed as someone who believes their existence so absolute that everyone else should fear and submit to Him and that He himself should fear none, best shown when He challenges those He views as sinners to step forward. In ''Apocalypse'' meanwhile He is portrayed as something of a petty coward who is just full of empty words, afraid of humanity, who seems to [[StrawHypocrite not even believe His own words]] which He preach. And when he get's demonized, instead of shouting words of rage and hatred, or delivering a DyingCurse, he is left [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for his existence]].

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** YHVH, well known in the franchise as the embodiment of the Law alignment. A TautologicalTemplar of the worst order, he is usually portrayed as someone whose law is the only law and is incapable of acknowledge any other view. But as a result of that, He is also portrayed as someone who believes their existence so absolute that everyone else should fear and submit to Him and that He himself should fear none, best shown when He challenges those He views as sinners to step forward. In ''Apocalypse'' meanwhile He is portrayed as something of a petty coward who is just full of empty words, afraid of humanity, who seems to [[StrawHypocrite not even believe His own words]] which He preach. And when he get's demonized, instead of shouting words of rage and hatred, or delivering a DyingCurse, he is left [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for his existence]]. And in terms of goals, He might as well be a different character altogether. Typically, YHVH desires to create a kingdom for His chosen under His rule where evil does not exist and everyone are equal (the problem usually tend to be what happens to those not among his chosen ones). In Apocalypse meanwhile he simply seems to have no real endgame goal, only being concerned with keeping the ForeverWar between Law and Chaos going on in a vain attempt to make His side look better.
2nd Dec '16 12:34:48 PM matteste
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** YHVH, well known in the franchise as the embodiment of the Law alignment. A TautologicalTemplar of the worst order, he is usually portrayed as someone whose law is the only law and is incapable of acknowledge any other view. But as a result of that, He is also portrayed as someone who believes their existence so absolute that everyone else should fear and submit to Him and that He himself should fear none, best shown when He challenges those He views as sinners to step forward. In ''Apocalypse'' meanwhile He is portrayed as something of a petty coward who is just full of empty words, afraid of humanity, who seems to [[StrawHypocrite not even believe His own words]] which He preach.

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** YHVH, well known in the franchise as the embodiment of the Law alignment. A TautologicalTemplar of the worst order, he is usually portrayed as someone whose law is the only law and is incapable of acknowledge any other view. But as a result of that, He is also portrayed as someone who believes their existence so absolute that everyone else should fear and submit to Him and that He himself should fear none, best shown when He challenges those He views as sinners to step forward. In ''Apocalypse'' meanwhile He is portrayed as something of a petty coward who is just full of empty words, afraid of humanity, who seems to [[StrawHypocrite not even believe His own words]] which He preach. And when he get's demonized, instead of shouting words of rage and hatred, or delivering a DyingCurse, he is left [[AintTooProudToBeg begging for his existence]].
16th Nov '16 11:01:35 PM ChrisX
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** Related is what happened to Tyrande Whisperwind in ''Mists of Pandaria''. In ''Warcraft III'' she's established as the leader of the night elven Sentinels, someone with over ten ''thousand'' years of combat experience. Tyrande can still be hot-headed, but tactical about it. But in the quest "A Little Patience" her great idea is to charge a fortified Horde position, leading Varian Wrynn, a forty-year-old warmonger, to suggest a better plan that ends with no Alliance casualties. So like Jaina, Tyrande's character had to take a hit so that Blizzard could try and make the reviled King Wrynn more tolerable. The fact that these derailed characters are both female leads to some UnfortunateImplications. The only damage-mitigation Blizzard could give for both Jaina and Tyrande is to portray them as their pro-peace self and tactical self from their pre-[=WoW=] self in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'', though Tyrande might get something better in ''Legion''.

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** Related is what happened to Tyrande Whisperwind in ''Mists of Pandaria''. In ''Warcraft III'' she's established as the leader of the night elven Sentinels, someone with over ten ''thousand'' years of combat experience. Tyrande can still be hot-headed, but tactical about it. But in the quest "A Little Patience" her great idea is to charge a fortified Horde position, leading Varian Wrynn, a forty-year-old warmonger, to suggest a better plan that ends with no Alliance casualties. So like Jaina, Tyrande's character had to take a hit so that Blizzard could try and make the reviled King Wrynn more tolerable. The fact that these derailed characters are both female leads to some UnfortunateImplications. The only damage-mitigation Blizzard could give for both Jaina and Tyrande is to portray them as their pro-peace self and tactical self from their pre-[=WoW=] self in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'', though in ''Legion'', Tyrande might ''did'' get something better in ''Legion''.than her performance at "A Little Patience". [[spoiler:Though it involves her having to kill a corrupted, beloved Dragon Aspect...]]
31st Oct '16 7:20:34 AM matteste
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* The direct sequel, ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', ends up derailing some more.
** YHVH, well known in the franchise as the embodiment of the Law alignment. A TautologicalTemplar of the worst order, he is usually portrayed as someone whose law is the only law and is incapable of acknowledge any other view. But as a result of that, He is also portrayed as someone who believes their existence so absolute that everyone else should fear and submit to Him and that He himself should fear none, best shown when He challenges those He views as sinners to step forward. In ''Apocalypse'' meanwhile He is portrayed as something of a petty coward who is just full of empty words, afraid of humanity, who seems to [[StrawHypocrite not even believe His own words]] which He preach.
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