History CharacterDerailment / VideoGames

20th Aug '16 11:32:50 AM Tuckerscreator
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** The Didact, the leader of the [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]]. When introduced in the terminals of ''Halo 3'', he was characterized as a noble idealist fighting [[OurZombiesAreDifferent the Flood]], refusing to fire the Halos that would kill the Flood alongside everything else in the galaxy. But his attempts to find a more humane solution failed, and eventually he was forced to fire to them at the cost of the end of Forerunner civilization. ''Literature/HaloCryptum'' went with this characterization, portraying him as a great KingInTheMountain, [[WartsAndAll with some unfortunate prejudices]] but ultimately wiser and better intentioned than the other Forerunner leaders. But then came ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', which turned him into the villain. And not just any villain, but a DarthVaderClone with glowing skull armor and vampire fangs who wanted to genocide humanity. His objections to using the Halos became out of wanting to keep the Forerunners' supremacy, not to not sacrifice innocents. And then he went ''even further'' in ''ComicBook/HaloEscalation'', where he outright abandoned his principles and tried to use a Halo on humanity. Needless to say, [[Literature/HaloSilentium the last book]] of ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' had some complex explaining to do to reconcile the opposing portrayals, including {{Retcon}}ing ''Halo 3'''s Didact into a clone of the original (though to be fair, the clone part had already been set up by ''Cryptum'', which showed the Didact putting a copy of his personality inside another Forerunner).

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** The Didact, the leader of the [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]]. When introduced in the terminals of ''Halo 3'', he was characterized as a noble idealist fighting [[OurZombiesAreDifferent the Flood]], refusing to fire the Halos that would kill the Flood alongside everything else in the galaxy. But his attempts to find a more humane solution failed, and eventually he was forced to fire to them at the cost of the end of Forerunner civilization. ''Literature/HaloCryptum'' went with this characterization, portraying him as a great KingInTheMountain, [[WartsAndAll with some unfortunate prejudices]] but ultimately wiser and better intentioned than the other Forerunner leaders. But then came ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', which turned him into the villain. And not just any villain, but a DarthVaderClone with glowing skull armor and vampire fangs who wanted to genocide humanity. His objections to using the Halos became out of wanting to keep the Forerunners' supremacy, not to not sacrifice innocents. And then he went ''even further'' in ''ComicBook/HaloEscalation'', where he outright abandoned his principles and tried to use a Halo on humanity. Needless to say, [[Literature/HaloSilentium the last book]] of ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' had some complex explaining to do to reconcile the opposing portrayals, including {{Retcon}}ing ''Halo 3'''s Didact into a clone of the original (though to be fair, the clone part had already been set up by ''Cryptum'', which showed the Didact putting a copy of his personality inside another Forerunner).original.
11th Aug '16 10:50:14 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** The Prophet of Truth, when introduced in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 2}}'', was shown to be a cunning ruler of the Covenant who was secretly manipulating them for his own purposes. Getting the silky smooth voice of MichaelWincott helped as well. But for whatever reason Wincott chose not to reprise the role in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', and either because of that or regardless Truth became ''way'' less sane in the following game. He was now voiced by TerenceStamp, and his calm conniving manner was replaced with a hoarse yelling dogmatist without any hidden motives. The result that he just ended up sounding like a clone of the Prophet of Regret, Truth's hot-blooded partner (who he betrayed in ''Halo 2''.)
** The Didact, the leader of the [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]]. When introduced in the terminals of ''Halo 3'', he was characterized as a noble idealist fighting [[OurZombiesAreDifferent the Flood]], refusing to fire the Halos that would kill the Flood alongside everything else in the galaxy. But his attempts to find a more humane solution failed, and eventually he was forced to fire to them at the cost of the end of Forerunner civilization. ''Literature/HaloCryptum'' went with this characterization, portraying as a great KingInTheMountain, [[WartsAndAll with some unfortunate prejudices]] but ultimately wiser and better intentioned than the other Forerunner leaders. But then came ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', which turned him into the villain. And not just any villain, but a DarthVaderClone with glowing skull armor and vampire fangs who wanted to genocide humanity. His objections to using the Halos became out of wanting to keep the Forerunners' supremacy, not to not sacrifice innocents. And then he went ''even further'' in ''ComicBook/HaloEscalation'', where he outright abandoned his principles and tried to use a Halo on humanity. Needless to say, [[Literature/HaloSilentium the last book]] of Literature/TheForerunnerSaga had some complex explaining to do to reconcile the opposing portrayals, including {{Retcon}}ing ''Halo 3'''s Didact into a clone of the original.

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** The Prophet of Truth, when introduced in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 2}}'', was shown to be a cunning ruler of the Covenant who was secretly manipulating them for his own purposes. Getting the silky smooth voice of MichaelWincott Creator/MichaelWincott helped as well. But for whatever reason Wincott chose not to reprise the role in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', and either whether because of that or regardless not, Truth became ''way'' less sane in the following game. He was now voiced by TerenceStamp, Creator/TerenceStamp, and his calm conniving manner was replaced with a hoarse yelling dogmatist without any hidden motives. The result being that he just ended up sounding like a clone of the Prophet of Regret, Truth's hot-blooded partner (who he betrayed in ''Halo 2''.)
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** The Didact, the leader of the [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]]. When introduced in the terminals of ''Halo 3'', he was characterized as a noble idealist fighting [[OurZombiesAreDifferent the Flood]], refusing to fire the Halos that would kill the Flood alongside everything else in the galaxy. But his attempts to find a more humane solution failed, and eventually he was forced to fire to them at the cost of the end of Forerunner civilization. ''Literature/HaloCryptum'' went with this characterization, portraying him as a great KingInTheMountain, [[WartsAndAll with some unfortunate prejudices]] but ultimately wiser and better intentioned than the other Forerunner leaders. But then came ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', which turned him into the villain. And not just any villain, but a DarthVaderClone with glowing skull armor and vampire fangs who wanted to genocide humanity. His objections to using the Halos became out of wanting to keep the Forerunners' supremacy, not to not sacrifice innocents. And then he went ''even further'' in ''ComicBook/HaloEscalation'', where he outright abandoned his principles and tried to use a Halo on humanity. Needless to say, [[Literature/HaloSilentium the last book]] of Literature/TheForerunnerSaga ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' had some complex explaining to do to reconcile the opposing portrayals, including {{Retcon}}ing ''Halo 3'''s Didact into a clone of the original.original (though to be fair, the clone part had already been set up by ''Cryptum'', which showed the Didact putting a copy of his personality inside another Forerunner).
31st Jul '16 3:17:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* The junkyard dogfish in the first ''FreddiFish'' game was your typical kind of AngryGuardDog: the kind that growls at you and refuses to let you pass without any distractions. Cut to a long SequelGap in ''[[PanderingToTheBase ABCs Under the Sea]]'', where he becomes a BigFriendlyDog willing to help Freddi and Luther sort out the trash. He still looks like an AngryGuardDog, so that only makes it worse.

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* The junkyard dogfish in the first ''FreddiFish'' ''VideoGame/FreddiFish'' game was your typical kind of AngryGuardDog: the kind that growls at you and refuses to let you pass without any distractions. Cut to a long SequelGap in ''[[PanderingToTheBase ABCs Under the Sea]]'', where he becomes a BigFriendlyDog willing to help Freddi and Luther sort out the trash. He still looks like an AngryGuardDog, so that only makes it worse.
10th Jul '16 9:12:31 PM Loekman3
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** Stephen is more subtle but still noticeable. Being based on the real Creator/StephenHawking, namely his belief that gods might exist but that humans don't need them, in IV he instead is trying to make the player revive the goddess of Tokyo, going completely against his past humanist standing.

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** Stephen is more subtle but still noticeable. Being based on the real Creator/StephenHawking, namely his belief that gods might exist but that humans don't need them, in IV he instead is trying to make the player revive the goddess of Tokyo, going completely against his past humanist standing.standing.
* When we first see Scarecrow in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'', he is shown to be an AxCrazy GigglingVillain who always acts overdramatic very much like his comic book counterpart. But then when he reappears in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' [[TheOtherDarrin with a new voice actor]], his personality did a complete 180 turn and now he is a SoftSpokenSadist who has a penchant for CreepyMonotone HannibalLecture and did not laugh at least once. The only hand-wave that comes from his sudden change is that he got brutally mauled by Killer Croc in their previous confrontation.
2nd Jul '16 10:41:09 AM Camberf
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* [[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix Wright]], by the time of ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' has completely changed personalities from rather neurotic, hardworking, and perpetually frazzled, to a rather lazy, sloppy pseudo-ManipulativeBastard. Even if you really reach and say that it's a result of what he's been doing the last seven years, there's a sequence where you flash back to him not long after [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the first trilogy]], and he's ''completely'' OOC there, most severely in that he's contemptuous of newcomer prosecutor Gavin, telling him that he should have stayed back in Germany and gotten more experience. Considering how he began his own career, and how hurt he seemed when Mia confided that to Maya in the original game, Phoenix would '''never''' say that to anyone. If anything, it sounds more like [[ButtMonkey perpetual loser]] Winston Payne.

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* [[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix Wright]], by the time of ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' has completely changed personalities from rather neurotic, hardworking, and perpetually frazzled, to a rather lazy, sloppy pseudo-ManipulativeBastard. Even if you really reach and say that it's a result of what he's been doing the last seven years, there's a sequence where you flash back to him not long after [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the first trilogy]], and he's ''completely'' OOC there, most severely in that he's contemptuous of newcomer prosecutor Gavin, telling him that he should have stayed back in Germany and gotten more experience. Considering how he began his own career, and how hurt he seemed when Mia confided that to Maya in the original game, Phoenix would '''never''' say that to anyone. If anything, it sounds more like [[ButtMonkey perpetual loser]] Winston Payne. However, by the time [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Duel Destinies]] came around, Phoenix was more or less [[CharacterRerailment back to his old self]].
2nd Jul '16 10:36:25 AM Camberf
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* Penelope from the ''Franchise/SlyCooper'' series is one of the most egregious examples of this trope. She was introduced in [[VideoGame/Sly3HonorAmongThieves the third game]] as a friendly girl who joined the Cooper Gang and eventually became Bentley's girlfriend. In the [[VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime the fourth game]], however, it's revealed that she had betrayed the Cooper Gang and was working with the BigBad, Le Paradox. Her reason for this? She wanted more money than the Cooper Gang was bringing in, and felt that they were holding her and Bentley back. It would've been one thing if she had shown any greedy tendencies in her first appearance, or gave any indication at all that she harbored anything even close to the hatred she shows for Sly (who she had a crush on for the first half of Sly 3) and the Cooper Gang in the 4th game, but she didn't. At the very least, her affection for Bentley was still there, though she betrays him too when he won't turn on his friends. The whole thing comes off as a cheap twist based on a lack of understanding or care for Penelope's established character.

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* Penelope from the ''Franchise/SlyCooper'' series is one of the most egregious examples of this trope. She was introduced in [[VideoGame/Sly3HonorAmongThieves the third game]] as a friendly girl who joined the Cooper Gang and eventually became Bentley's girlfriend. In the [[VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime the fourth game]], however, it's revealed that she had betrayed the Cooper Gang and was working with the BigBad, Le Paradox. Her reason for this? She wanted more money than the Cooper Gang was bringing in, and felt that they were holding her and Bentley back. It would've been one thing if she had shown any greedy tendencies in her first appearance, or gave any indication at all that she harbored anything even close to the hatred she shows for Sly (who she had a crush on for the first half of Sly 3) and the Cooper Gang in the 4th game, but she didn't.hadn't. At the very least, her affection for Bentley was still there, though she betrays him too when he won't turn on his friends. The whole thing comes off as a cheap twist based on a lack of understanding or care for Penelope's established character.
23rd Jun '16 6:56:47 AM matteste
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* Several returning characters got hit with this trope in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'', but the three most noticeable being Lucifer, Gabriel, Mastema and Stephen:

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* Several returning characters got hit with this trope in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'', but the three four most noticeable being Lucifer, Gabriel, Mastema and Stephen:
23rd Jun '16 6:56:26 AM matteste
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* Several returning characters got hit with this trope in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'', but the three most noticeable being Lucifer, Gabriel and Stephen:

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* Several returning characters got hit with this trope in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'', but the three most noticeable being Lucifer, Gabriel Gabriel, Mastema and Stephen:


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** Mastema, in contrast to the others, went the completely other direction where in the past he was a [[ItsAllAboutMe self centered]] KnightTemplar of the worst kind. By contrast, in IV he has significantly cleaned up is act and have turned into something of a BigGood in the story.
23rd Jun '16 6:36:38 AM matteste
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Yuna's characterization seems to have gone in reverse by the time the audio drama ''Final Fantasy X Will'' takes place. In the drama, Yuna is not only back to her quiet and reserved self, but she seems to have [[TookALevelInJerkass become more of a bitch]] by being short with a group of visitors that came from Bevelle to deliver a message to her, almost wanting nothing to do with them. On top of this, she seemingly breaks up with Tidus for no reason other than she found someone else that she loved and she never reveals who it was. Yuna breaking up with Tidus ''massively'' goes against her character arc in the past two games where she grew to love Tidus, got sad that he vanished, and then being overjoyed that he was brought back to life.

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Yuna's characterization seems to have gone in reverse by the time the audio drama ''Final Fantasy X Will'' takes place. In the drama, Yuna is not only back to her quiet and reserved self, but she seems to have [[TookALevelInJerkass become more of a bitch]] by being short with a group of visitors that came from Bevelle to deliver a message to her, almost wanting nothing to do with them. On top of this, she seemingly breaks up with Tidus for no reason other than she found someone else that she loved and she never reveals who it was. Yuna breaking up with Tidus ''massively'' goes against her character arc in the past two games where she grew to love Tidus, got sad that he vanished, and then being overjoyed that he was brought back to life.life.
* Several returning characters got hit with this trope in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'', but the three most noticeable being Lucifer, Gabriel and Stephen:
** Lucifer is primarily known as the leader of the Chaos faction and a SocialDarwinist, but is also known for his charisma, love for speaking in riddles as well as being at humanities side (for better or for worse). In IV his SocialDarwinist tendencies are blown up extensively, his charisma gone, speaks more like an EvilOverlord and doesn't even give any care for what happens to humanity.
** Gabriel, one of the Archangels, while Law aligned is also the [[OnlySaneMan voice of sanity]] among the Archangels when they start to go too far. In IV she is tied with Raphael as the worst of the lot and acts as one of the driving forces in the game to wipe out the Unclean.
** Stephen is more subtle but still noticeable. Being based on the real Creator/StephenHawking, namely his belief that gods might exist but that humans don't need them, in IV he instead is trying to make the player revive the goddess of Tokyo, going completely against his past humanist standing.
12th Jun '16 12:30:26 PM Camberf
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* Penelope from the ''Franchise/SlyCooper'' series is one of the most egregious examples of this trope. She was introduced in [[VideoGame/Sly3HonorAmongThieves the third game]] as a friendly girl who joined the Cooper Gang and eventually became Bentley's girlfriend. In the [[VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime the fourth game]], however, it's revealed that she had betrayed the Cooper Gang and was working with the BigBad, Le Paradox. Her reason for this? She wanted more money than the Cooper Gang was bringing in, and felt that they were holding her and Bentley back. It would've been one thing if she had shown any greedy tendencies in her first appearance, or gave any indication at all that she harbored anything even close to the hatred she shows for Sly and the Cooper Gang in the 4th game, but she didn't. At the very least, her affection for Bentley was still there, though she betrays him too when he won't turn on his friends. The whole thing comes off as a cheap twist based on a lack of understanding or care for Penelope's established character.

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* Penelope from the ''Franchise/SlyCooper'' series is one of the most egregious examples of this trope. She was introduced in [[VideoGame/Sly3HonorAmongThieves the third game]] as a friendly girl who joined the Cooper Gang and eventually became Bentley's girlfriend. In the [[VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime the fourth game]], however, it's revealed that she had betrayed the Cooper Gang and was working with the BigBad, Le Paradox. Her reason for this? She wanted more money than the Cooper Gang was bringing in, and felt that they were holding her and Bentley back. It would've been one thing if she had shown any greedy tendencies in her first appearance, or gave any indication at all that she harbored anything even close to the hatred she shows for Sly (who she had a crush on for the first half of Sly 3) and the Cooper Gang in the 4th game, but she didn't. At the very least, her affection for Bentley was still there, though she betrays him too when he won't turn on his friends. The whole thing comes off as a cheap twist based on a lack of understanding or care for Penelope's established character.
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