History CelebrityParadox / ComicBooks

30th Sep '17 8:40:12 PM nombretomado
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** The story "Where the Action Is" details a comic publisher who publishes embellished exploits of "real life" heroes and villains, with increasingly dangerous results. First, the hero Crackerjack shows up to complain about lack of royalty payments (the publisher puts him off with fast talk and HollywoodAccounting); then, the heroine Nightingale threatens him for insinuating that she and her partner are a lesbian couple (he brazens it out, noting that she'd have to reveal her {{secret identity}} in order to sue him). Finally the villain Glowworm corners the publisher at a convention and almost kills him for portraying him as a white supremacist (Glowworm has a radioactive sheen -- underneath it, as he puts it, "[[YouKnowImBlackRight You know what color]] I ''used'' to be?"). After the last threat, he decides to start a line of "cosmic" (alien/otherworldly) heroes and villains, since they are too [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence above mortal concerns]] to register complaints. [[spoiler:The building gets vaporized one morning several months later.]]

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** The story "Where the Action Is" details a comic publisher who publishes embellished exploits of "real life" heroes and villains, with increasingly dangerous results. First, the hero Crackerjack shows up to complain about lack of royalty payments (the publisher puts him off with fast talk and HollywoodAccounting); UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting); then, the heroine Nightingale threatens him for insinuating that she and her partner are a lesbian couple (he brazens it out, noting that she'd have to reveal her {{secret identity}} in order to sue him). Finally the villain Glowworm corners the publisher at a convention and almost kills him for portraying him as a white supremacist (Glowworm has a radioactive sheen -- underneath it, as he puts it, "[[YouKnowImBlackRight You know what color]] I ''used'' to be?"). After the last threat, he decides to start a line of "cosmic" (alien/otherworldly) heroes and villains, since they are too [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence above mortal concerns]] to register complaints. [[spoiler:The building gets vaporized one morning several months later.]]
30th Aug '17 6:10:00 AM CosmicFerret
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** DC, prior to 1986 and Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, did this using Earth-2 and claiming that the Earth-1 characters had comics about the Earth-2 characters but not about themselves. This explanation worked for characters like TheFlash, but wouldn't make sense for someone like Franchise/{{Superman}}, where both versions had the same secret identity.

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** DC, prior to 1986 and Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, did this using Earth-2 and claiming that the Earth-1 characters had comics about the Earth-2 characters but not about themselves. This explanation worked for characters like TheFlash, ComicBook/TheFlash, but wouldn't make sense for someone like Franchise/{{Superman}}, where both versions had the same secret identity.



*** An issue of ''TheFlash'' shows that Irey West has a poster from the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon in her room. Ya know, the cartoon that had ''her dad'' as a guest star. Though interestingly enough, the cartoon rarely if ever used the heroes' real names. So in theory, ''Teen Titans'' could absolutely be a TV show in the Franchise/DCUniverse without jeopardizing the identities of the actual Titans.

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*** An issue of ''TheFlash'' ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' shows that Irey West has a poster from the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon in her room. Ya know, the cartoon that had ''her dad'' as a guest star. Though interestingly enough, the cartoon rarely if ever used the heroes' real names. So in theory, ''Teen Titans'' could absolutely be a TV show in the Franchise/DCUniverse without jeopardizing the identities of the actual Titans.
12th Aug '17 11:22:01 AM nombretomado
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*** SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} himself says in one issue that he looks like "RyanReynolds mixed with a Shar-Pei." No sign of the Shar-Pei, but who else would get the role when the live-action movie came out?

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*** SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} himself says in one issue that he looks like "RyanReynolds "Creator/RyanReynolds mixed with a Shar-Pei." No sign of the Shar-Pei, but who else would get the role when the live-action movie came out?
24th Jul '17 1:07:19 PM MBG
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*** One of the strangest cases of this trope is a non-canon Superman story from the Golden Age where Lois and Clark watch one of the WesternAnimation/SupermanTheatricalCartoons... and it explicitly shows Superman and Clark Kent changing back and forth. The only explanation given is that Siegel and Schuster are somehow clairvoyant, and Superman spends the whole thing trying to distract Lois whenever it mentions Superman and Clark Kent are the same person - though presumably it won't matter by tomorrow.
24th Jul '17 1:06:42 PM MBG
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*** Superman's also had cartoons and films made about him in-universe, with him licensing out his name and likeness and donating the profits to charity. As with the above Batman story, they tend to make up a lot of the details (though not as much, since Superman's deeds are more public). ''Up, Up, and Away'' had a film that showed him growing up in Chicago and working at a pizza joint, for instance.


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*** One of the strangest cases of this trope is a non-canon Superman story from the Golden Age where Lois and Clark watch one of the WesternAnimation/SupermanTheatricalCartoons... and it explicitly shows Superman and Clark Kent changing back and forth. The only explanation given is that Siegel and Schuster are somehow clairvoyant, and Superman spends the whole thing trying to distract Lois whenever it mentions Superman and Clark Kent are the same person - though presumably it won't matter by tomorrow.
11th Mar '17 4:13:43 PM nombretomado
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** The ''Worlds Collide'' crossover, where the characters of DC Comics met the characters of MilestoneComics, had this since Marvel and DC were both fictional universes within the Milestone Universe. ComicBook/{{Icon}} expressed concern that he might not be strong enough to battle Superman, whom he remembered from the original Christopher Reeve ''Film/{{Superman}}'' film.

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** The ''Worlds Collide'' crossover, where the characters of DC Comics met the characters of MilestoneComics, Creator/MilestoneComics, had this since Marvel and DC were both fictional universes within the Milestone Universe. ComicBook/{{Icon}} expressed concern that he might not be strong enough to battle Superman, whom he remembered from the original Christopher Reeve ''Film/{{Superman}}'' film.
8th Jan '17 2:23:15 PM nombretomado
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* In the UltimateMarvel universe, one issue of ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' involved Spidey's exploits being filmed by Creator/SamRaimi to save money on CGI for a blockbuster movie starring Tobey Maguire.

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* In the UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe, one issue of ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' involved Spidey's exploits being filmed by Creator/SamRaimi to save money on CGI for a blockbuster movie starring Tobey Maguire.



** In ''{{Ultimatum}}'', Peter's buddy Kong suggests that he and his friends go see ''Film/TheDarkKnight''.
** Also subverted in the UltimateMarvel universe: when discussing which actors should play the various members of the Ultimates, ComicBook/NickFury nominates Creator/SamuelLJackson for himself. This being an obvious meta-reference, as Marvel had based Ultimate Nick Fury's likeness on Jackson, with the agreement that they'd cast him for the movie version when the time came.

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** In ''{{Ultimatum}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', Peter's buddy Kong suggests that he and his friends go see ''Film/TheDarkKnight''.
** Also subverted in the UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe: when discussing which actors should play the various members of the Ultimates, ComicBook/NickFury nominates Creator/SamuelLJackson for himself. This being an obvious meta-reference, as Marvel had based Ultimate Nick Fury's likeness on Jackson, with the agreement that they'd cast him for the movie version when the time came.
1st Dec '16 6:47:25 AM cdrood
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** Given how many comic references are in the show, this becomes infinitely recursive.
15th Oct '16 12:55:37 PM chopshop
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** ''ComicBook/TheSuperiorFoesOfSpiderMan'' briefly remarks on this sort of thing; Beetle and Overdrive rob a comic book store and a confused Overdrive questions the recursive FridgeLogic of superhero comics being made in a world where superheroes are a normal part of life.
-->"I didn't even know they still ''made'' these things..."
6th Oct '16 5:22:12 PM Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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* IDW's ''ComicBook/BackToTheFuture'' mentions that Marty's rival Needles is a big Music/RedHotChiliPeppers fan. Needles' actor in the movies was Michael "Flea" Balzary, who has been the Chili Peppers' bassist since 1983, leading one to wonder if Needles (or anyone else) ever noticed the resemblance.

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* IDW's ''ComicBook/BackToTheFuture'' mentions that Marty's rival Needles is a big Music/RedHotChiliPeppers fan. Needles' actor in the movies was Michael "Flea" Balzary, who has been the Chili Peppers' bassist since 1983, leading one to wonder if Needles (or anyone else) ever noticed the resemblance.resemblance.
* ''ComicBook/MarvelTeamUp'' #74, which has Spider-Man teaming up with the cast of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'', has Creator/StanLee (the co-creator of Spider-Man) hosting ''SNL''.
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