History CarnivoreConfusion / VideoGames

9th Apr '18 1:50:59 PM UlyssesYeahThatOne
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* ''VideoGame/ToothAndTail'' [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructs]] and takes this to the LogicalExtreme. In a nutshell: it's a game about a civilization of various species of sapient animals waging a four-way civil war called [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The War For Meat]]. It only gets worse from here, what with the entire race of pigs being enslaved for the sole purpose of being the meat, and the kicker? Pretty much all the animals involved can get by perfectly well on plants, but they refuse to, deeming it uncivilized.
25th Mar '18 9:20:26 AM Snowsky
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* Web-based pet sims often have this problem. For example, carnivorous ''Website/{{Neopets}}'' can and do eat other Neopets (a specific example is the abandon with which lupes eat chias), despite all of them being sentient. There used to be "normal" animals such as fish and cows to give milk but, except for some outdated materials such as items of encyclopedia pages, this practice is being [[EarthDrift phased out.]]

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* Web-based pet sims often have this problem. For example, carnivorous ''Website/{{Neopets}}'' can and do eat other Neopets (a specific example is the abandon with which lupes Lupes eat chias), Chias), despite all of them being sentient.sentient. Food items made out of pets can be bought by users and fed to pets, which has the side-effect of Neopets being fine with cannibalism (e.g. a Meerca will not object to eating a Meerca Pie). There used to be "normal" animals such as fish and cows to give milk but, except for some outdated materials such as items of encyclopedia pages, this practice is being [[EarthDrift phased out.]]
28th Feb '18 8:17:58 PM KillerClowns
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* A key part of the backstory in ''VideoGame/ThemsFightinHerds'': the sentient ungulates, tired of being preyed on by carnivores, [[SealedEvilInACan sealed them all in]] AnotherDimension. All save for a handful of wolves who became sheepdogs and explicitly subsist on non-sapient vermin that would otherwise destroy the sheeple's crops, and the technically omnivorous longma, who abstain from meat by choice. Problem is, the seal's starting to come undone, and the sealed predators are ''hungry''.

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* A key part of the backstory in ''VideoGame/ThemsFightinHerds'': the sentient ungulates, tired of being preyed on by carnivores, [[SealedEvilInACan sealed them all in]] AnotherDimension. All save for a handful of wolves who became sheepdogs and explicitly subsist on non-sapient vermin that would otherwise destroy the sheeple's crops, and the technically omnivorous longma, who abstain from meat by choice.choice, and anything too small to pose a reliable threat to a reasonably-sized ungulate. Problem is, the seal's starting to come undone, and the sealed predators are ''hungry''.
28th Feb '18 8:16:53 PM KillerClowns
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* Inklings in ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' have shown to have a thing for seafood. This is likely because not all ocean animals evolved like inklings and jellyfish did. As for the fried squid rings so often mentioned, fanon is ''reasonably'' certain they're made from non-sapient squids, but...

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* Inklings in ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' have are shown to have a thing for seafood. This is likely because not all ocean animals evolved like inklings and jellyfish did. As for the fried squid rings so often mentioned, fanon is ''reasonably'' certain they're made from non-sapient squids, but...
29th Dec '17 3:27:28 PM KillerClowns
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* A key part of the backstory in ''VideoGame/ThemsFightinHerds'': the sentient ungulates, tired of being preyed on by carnivores, [[SealedEvilInACan sealed them all in]] AnotherDimension. All save for a handful of wolves who became sheepdogs and explicitly subsist on non-sentient vermin that would otherwise destroy the sheeple's crops, and the technically omnivorous longma, who abstain from meat by choice. Problem is, the seal's starting to come undone, and the sealed predators are ''hungry''.

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* A key part of the backstory in ''VideoGame/ThemsFightinHerds'': the sentient ungulates, tired of being preyed on by carnivores, [[SealedEvilInACan sealed them all in]] AnotherDimension. All save for a handful of wolves who became sheepdogs and explicitly subsist on non-sentient non-sapient vermin that would otherwise destroy the sheeple's crops, and the technically omnivorous longma, who abstain from meat by choice. Problem is, the seal's starting to come undone, and the sealed predators are ''hungry''.



* Inklings in ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' have shown to have a thing for seafood. This is likely because not all ocean animals evolved like inklings and jellyfish did.

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* Inklings in ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' have shown to have a thing for seafood. This is likely because not all ocean animals evolved like inklings and jellyfish did. As for the fried squid rings so often mentioned, fanon is ''reasonably'' certain they're made from non-sapient squids, but...
-->'''Marie''': They're morbidly delicious!
17th Dec '17 8:25:39 PM Odacon_Spy
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* Inklings in ''VideoGame/Splatoon'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' have shown to have a thing for seafood. This is likely because not all ocean animals evolved like inklings and jellyfish did.

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* Inklings in ''VideoGame/Splatoon'' ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' have shown to have a thing for seafood. This is likely because not all ocean animals evolved like inklings and jellyfish did.did.
* One of the [=NPCs=] you can speak to in ''VideoGame/{{Cuphead}}'' is a cartoon fish casually doin' some fishin' by a riverbank near the first mausoleum. Talkin' to 'em nets you a warning that you're "spookin' the fish".
28th Nov '17 7:15:57 PM Pichu-kun
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* Web-based pet sims often have this problem. For example, carnivorous ''Neopets'' can and do eat other Neopets (a specific example is the abandon with which lupes eat chias), despite all of them being sentient. There used to be "normal" animals such as fish and cows to give milk but, except for some outdated materials such as items of encyclopedia pages, this practice is being [[EarthDrift phased out.]]

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* Web-based pet sims often have this problem. For example, carnivorous ''Neopets'' ''Website/{{Neopets}}'' can and do eat other Neopets (a specific example is the abandon with which lupes eat chias), despite all of them being sentient. There used to be "normal" animals such as fish and cows to give milk but, except for some outdated materials such as items of encyclopedia pages, this practice is being [[EarthDrift phased out.]]



* In the ''SuperMarioBros'' series, the Mushroom Kingdom is mainly inhabited by anthropomorphic mushrooms like Toad. Then in the RPG games, it's discovered that normal mushrooms are also the Mushroom Kingdom's main food source! And there's also a pig who runs a hot dog stand...
** Of course there's still the question of why all the mushrooms have ''eyes''...

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'':
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In the ''SuperMarioBros'' ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series, the Mushroom Kingdom is mainly inhabited by anthropomorphic mushrooms like Toad. Then in the RPG games, it's discovered that normal mushrooms are also the Mushroom Kingdom's main food source! And there's also a pig who runs a hot dog stand...
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stand... Of course there's still the question of why all the mushrooms have ''eyes''...



** While Franklin is never actually eaten (it's ''Animal Crossing'', after all,) the implications of the whole thing make this the grade-A, prime-cut stuff of nightmares .
*** In ''City Folk'', at least, the villagers seem to genuinely want to welcome Franklin; they'll say something that ''sounds'' bad, such as 'I can't wait for dinner with our guest', then follow it up with 'I even researched his culture's food and made some so he'll feel more at home'. Mayor Tortimer is really the only one being truly creepy about it. As of ''New Leaf'' though, the problem seems to have been cleared up entirely by making Franklin a chef(making his invitation sensible), and having Tortimer retire.
** The rest of the year, there are several different foods available for the villagers to discuss in their mix-'n'-match randomized dialogue, and the game goes to ''very'' careful extents to make sure to specify that every food that could possibly contain meat is either a "vegetarian" version or made with [[NoCartoonFish fish]]. Examples include salmon ravioli and vegetarian meatloaf. At least, in ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk''. The first game wasn't so careful. Giant cow talking about hamburgers, anyone?
*** The eating-fish-is-okay thing is referenced in [[http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/?p=1738 This]] Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily strip.

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** While Franklin is never actually eaten (it's ''Animal Crossing'', after all,) the implications of the whole thing make this the grade-A, prime-cut stuff of nightmares .
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nightmares. In ''City Folk'', at least, the villagers seem to genuinely want to welcome Franklin; they'll say something that ''sounds'' bad, such as 'I can't wait for dinner with our guest', then follow it up with 'I even researched his culture's food and made some so he'll feel more at home'. Mayor Tortimer is really the only one being truly creepy about it. As of ''New Leaf'' though, the problem seems to have been cleared up entirely by making Franklin a chef(making chef (making his invitation sensible), and having Tortimer retire.
** The rest of the year, there are several different foods available for the villagers to discuss in their mix-'n'-match randomized dialogue, and the game goes to ''very'' careful extents to make sure to specify that every food that could possibly contain meat is either a "vegetarian" version or made with [[NoCartoonFish fish]]. Examples include salmon ravioli and vegetarian meatloaf. At least, in ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk''. The first game wasn't so careful. Giant cow talking about hamburgers, anyone?
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anyone? The eating-fish-is-okay thing is referenced in [[http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/?p=1738 This]] Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily strip.



* In the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' series, Sonic (as a trademark of his character) and Vector are shown eating chili dogs, and Big catches fish.
** This franchise has an exceptionally strange treatment of animals; for example, Sonic also rescues pigs from inside Dr. Robotnik's badniks. Ian Flynn, head author of [[ComicBook/ArchieSonicTheHedgehog the comics]], tried to clear this up [[http://www.bumbleking.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7330&start=225&sid=5074ea2d5bc0bafa98bdfa69387539b4 by explaining]] that there are ''three'' classes of animals: anthros, "animal friends", and regular animals - an idea that, while fairly consistent with established lore, is never spelled out in official media. This explanation has been met with a mixed reception by the fanbase.

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* In ** The rice cooker item in ''New Leaf'' can be made to have chicken rice in it, despite the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' series, fact villagers can be chickens.
* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'':
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Sonic (as a trademark of his character) and Vector are shown eating chili dogs, and Big catches fish.
** This franchise has an exceptionally strange treatment of animals; for example, Sonic also rescues pigs from inside Dr. Robotnik's badniks. Ian Flynn, head author of [[ComicBook/ArchieSonicTheHedgehog [[ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog the comics]], tried to clear this up [[http://www.bumbleking.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7330&start=225&sid=5074ea2d5bc0bafa98bdfa69387539b4 by explaining]] that there are ''three'' classes of animals: anthros, "animal friends", friends" (who are similar to regular animals but display some anthropomorphic characteristics), and regular animals - an idea that, while fairly consistent with established lore, is never spelled out in official media. game canon This explanation has been met with a mixed reception by the fanbase.



* ''VideoGame/BanjoKazooie'' isn't subject to only carnivore confusion, as ''everything'', from the [[AbnormalAmmo eggs used as ammunition]] to the orange given to a hungry monkey, is alive, sapient, and capable of SpeakingSimlish. Making it worse/better is that most of them are rather accepting of their fate; for example a fish that can be rescued in the second game that isn't even mildly annoyed it was about to be cooked and eaten before the plot arrived.
** Made worse by the fact it was canonically his pet goldfish.
* High up on a cliff in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'', if you kill a guard, buzzards may feed on his corpse. If you then kill the buzzard and collect its meat, you get a bigger dose of stamina from consuming it.
** This comes back to haunt you when facing The Sorrow, as the [[OurGhostsAreDifferent spirits of all the people you killed up to that point]] march along the river towards you. If you ate the meat of a a buzzard that scavenged off a guard, he'll come shuffling towards you, crying "You ate me!"

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* ''VideoGame/BanjoKazooie'' isn't subject to only carnivore confusion, as ''everything'', from the [[AbnormalAmmo eggs used as ammunition]] to the orange given to a hungry monkey, is alive, sapient, and capable of SpeakingSimlish. Making it worse/better is that most of them are rather accepting of their fate; for example a fish that can be rescued in the second game that isn't even mildly annoyed it was about to be cooked and eaten before the plot arrived.
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arrived. Made worse by the fact it was canonically his pet goldfish.
* High up on a cliff in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'', if you kill a guard, buzzards may feed on his corpse. If you then kill the buzzard and collect its meat, you get a bigger dose of stamina from consuming it.
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it. This comes back to haunt you when facing The Sorrow, as the [[OurGhostsAreDifferent spirits of all the people you killed up to that point]] march along the river towards you. If you ate the meat of a a buzzard that scavenged off a guard, he'll come shuffling towards you, crying "You ate me!"


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* Inklings in ''VideoGame/Splatoon'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' have shown to have a thing for seafood. This is likely because not all ocean animals evolved like inklings and jellyfish did.
5th Oct '17 11:07:43 AM ckmann
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', one can meet a Rito, the game's BirdPeople, at a meat shop, where she expresses disappointment that it doesn't supply poultry. Similarly, at a shop ran by a Rito, one can sell poultry meat with no questions being raised at all. Additionally, the Zora actively sell and eat fish.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', one can meet a Rito, the game's BirdPeople, at a meat shop, where she expresses disappointment that it doesn't supply poultry. Similarly, at a shop ran by a Rito, one can sell poultry meat with no questions being raised at all. Additionally, the Zora [[FishPeople Zora]] actively sell and eat fish.
5th Oct '17 11:05:54 AM ckmann
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', one can meet a Rito, the game's BirdPeople, at a meat shop, where she expresses disappointment that it doesn't supply poultry. Similarly, at a shop ran by a Rito, one can sell poultry meat with no questions being raised at all.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', one can meet a Rito, the game's BirdPeople, at a meat shop, where she expresses disappointment that it doesn't supply poultry. Similarly, at a shop ran by a Rito, one can sell poultry meat with no questions being raised at all. Additionally, the Zora actively sell and eat fish.
1st May '17 4:02:56 AM Trialman
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', one can meet a Rito, the game's BirdPeople, at a meat shop, where she expresses disappointment that it doesn't supply poultry. Similarly, at a shop ran by a Rito, one can sell poultry meat with no questions being raised at all.
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