History BrotherSisterIncest / Mythology

23rd Apr '17 4:20:51 PM Eievie
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* Literature/TheBible: Adam's and Eve's children by the more literal readings [[FridgeLogic could only have had other family members to mate with]] but its never said explicitly.
** Especially vexing in the mystery of [[UnknownCharacter Cain's wife]] who is arguably the 5th human mentioned but comes from nowhere. She (and the other wives) are explained in the fifth chapter, which states Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters. The incest becomes more obvious from that point on.
** Sarah was Abraham's half-sister, as well as his wife. So when he told the Egyptians [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend "she is my sister"]] he was telling a ''half''-truth...that caused all sorts of mayhem.
** King David's oldest son, Amnon, raped his half-sister Tamar. [[RapeAndRevenge Their other brother Absalom didn't take it kindly]].

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* Literature/TheBible: Literature/TheBible:
**Adam and Eve. Since humanity is still young and vital, it's a case of IncestIsRelative until more careful selection is possible or even necessary.
*** Eve was made from Adam's rib, so unless God worked some additional magic, they were brother/sister [[OppositeSexClone in a cloning sense]].
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Adam's and Eve's children by the more literal readings [[FridgeLogic could only have had other family members to mate with]] but its never said explicitly.
** Especially vexing in the mystery of
explicitly. [[UnknownCharacter Cain's wife]] who is arguably the 5th human mentioned but comes from nowhere. She (and After Cain killed Abel, he went into exile away from his family, but he went on to marry the other wives) are explained in the unnamed lady. The fifth chapter, which chapter states Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters. daughters, so she could've been one of them. Alternatively, some think the implication is that there were other people created other than Adam and Eve, and they were just the first.
**The punitive Great Flood leaves only four married couples alive -- three of the men are brothers, and the fourth couple are ''their parents''.
The incest becomes more obvious following children would have no one to marry but their cousins or siblings. As Genesis also claims that people lived an average of 400 years back in those days, the much shorter lifespans following the Flood can be taken as a result of that tragically narrowed gene pool. This is all consistent with the Bible's theme of various [[CataclysmBackstory cataclysms]] as a consequence of [[AndManGrewProud man's pride leading to repeated falls]].
*** Not only for humans. Aside
from that point on.
bringing seven pairs of a few species designated acceptable for sacrifice (and any domesticated animals the family might have had), the Biblical account puts "every air-breathing animal on the planet" through the same genetic bottleneck.
** Sarah was Abraham's half-sister, as well as his wife. So when he told the Egyptians [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend "she is my sister"]] he was telling a ''half''-truth... that caused all sorts of mayhem.
mayhem. The Pharaoh at the time had this lovely 65-year-old taken to his house, and the Pharaoh and his house were subsequently stricken with great plagues. Upon learning that Abram had not told him the important fact that she was his wife, he told Abram off and sent them away. Fast forward twenty-five years, and they went down to Gerar, still planning the same omission. Abimelech took her, and learned from a vision that she was Abraham's wife, and that Abimelech would die if he didn't give her back. He did, but asked Abraham what could have possessed him to omit such an important detail. He explained his reasoning, but also that she was, in fact, his sister from another mother, but from the same father. He let them live there and gave them stuff, and Abraham prayed and the wombs of Abimelech's house were reopened from being stopped up.
** King David's oldest son, Amnon, lusted after his virgin half (?) sister, Tamar, so badly that he [[PlayingSick pretended to be ill]] so that Tamar would come to his room to feed him. He then raped his half-sister Tamar.her over all of her protests (and it being a [[ForbiddenFruit gigantic no-no]] in Jewish law). [[RapeAndRevenge Their other brother Absalom didn't take it kindly]]. Some try to argue they were NotBloodSiblings. The interesting part is where she pleads with him to talk to their father about it with the assumption that David would approve the marriage. Now it's very possible that she was just trying to put him off but it can be assumed that she wouldn't have made the plea if it was completely implausible. Maybe the taboo of being an unmarried, deflowered woman was a greater stigma than being married to a half-brother.
** Other than the story of Amnon and Tamar, however, all of these incidents took place before the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy, which specifically outlawed these practices, were written. The very word "incest" is a term that has been retro-actively applied, coming as it does from Latin, the language of ancient (yet still much younger than Israel) Rome. Though there are indications that the Law was already known to some extent before Moses wrote it down (e.g., Noah knew which animals were clean before Leviticus 11 was written).


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* ''The Pearl Of Great Price'' one of the four standard works is LDS (Mormon) canon and scripture says that the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve began to "divide two and two in the land ... and they also begat sons and daughters" meaning it's explicitly Mormon doctrine that everyone is a product of sibling incest. While this neatly explains where Cain's wife came from (she was a sister) it... brings up other issues.
15th Dec '16 9:16:00 AM Silverblade2
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** According to the Odyssey, Aeolus, Keeper of the Winds, married his six sons to his six daughters.
** In another story, incompatible with the above, Aeolus' children Macareus and Canace had a secret affair. When Canace gave birth to a son, their ralationship was revealed. Aeolus exposed the child, sentenced Canace to death and Macareus killed himself.
17th Jan '16 3:16:55 AM Essex
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** Especially vexing in the mystery of [[UnknownCharacter Cain's wife]] who is arguably the 5th human mentioned but comes from nowhere.

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** Especially vexing in the mystery of [[UnknownCharacter Cain's wife]] who is arguably the 5th human mentioned but comes from nowhere. She (and the other wives) are explained in the fifth chapter, which states Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters. The incest becomes more obvious from that point on.
18th Jun '15 8:55:01 AM JoeMerl
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** The Questing Beast was said to be born from a princess who lusted after her brother, and slept with a demon who promised to make him love her back. Instead the demon made her hate her brother, and when she became pregnant she [[FalseRapeAccusation accused him of raping her]], prompting her father to execute him. Before he died the prince said that if he was innocent, it would be proved by his sister giving birth to a monster.
13th Jun '15 5:55:38 PM UraRenge
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* In Zoroastrianism there is a concept known as xwēdōdah, or the holy union of father and daughter/mother and son/brother and sister. It was and still is considered by the religions on of the most pious acts one can perform as a Zoroastrian for reasons that are far too complicated to explain in a simple entry. However, since nothng in the religion requires it and most people simply don't want to marry someone in their family, it very rarely happened outside of royalty.

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* In Zoroastrianism there is a concept known as xwēdōdah, or the holy union of father and daughter/mother and son/brother and sister. It was and still is considered by the religions on of religion as the most pious acts one can perform as a Zoroastrian for reasons that are far too complicated to explain in a simple entry. However, since nothng in the religion requires it and most people simply don't want to marry someone in their family, it very rarely happened outside of royalty.
13th Jun '15 5:55:11 PM UraRenge
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* In Zoroastrianism there is a concept known as xwēdōdah, or the holy union of father and daughter/mother and son/brother and sister. It was and still is considered by the religions on of the most pious acts one can perform as a Zoroastrian for reasons that are far too complicated to explain in a simple entry. However, since nothng in the religion requires it and most people simply don't want to marry someone in their family, it very rarely happened outside of royalty.
3rd May '15 11:41:15 PM nombretomado
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* In NorseMythology (at least according to ''Literature/{{Heimskringla}}''), marriage and breeding between brother and sister were common amongst the Vanir before their alliance with the Aesir. The twins Freyja and Freyr were children of Njord with his unnamed sister. Loki in the ''Literature/PoeticEdda'' also once accused Freyja and Freyr of sleeping with each other, though it's not clear whether this is more than slander.

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* In NorseMythology Myth/NorseMythology (at least according to ''Literature/{{Heimskringla}}''), marriage and breeding between brother and sister were common amongst the Vanir before their alliance with the Aesir. The twins Freyja and Freyr were children of Njord with his unnamed sister. Loki in the ''Literature/PoeticEdda'' also once accused Freyja and Freyr of sleeping with each other, though it's not clear whether this is more than slander.



** ClassicalMythology also had Byblis falls in love with her brother Caunus, and defends their relationship by pointing out how many immortals have had incestuous relationships. Their story was later retold by Creator/{{Ovid}}.

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** ClassicalMythology Myth/ClassicalMythology also had Byblis falls in love with her brother Caunus, and defends their relationship by pointing out how many immortals have had incestuous relationships. Their story was later retold by Creator/{{Ovid}}.



* JapaneseMythology have the first deities Izanami and Izanagi. Some versions of the myth also have the sun goddess Amaterasu married to her brother Tsukuyomi.

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* JapaneseMythology Myth/JapaneseMythology have the first deities Izanami and Izanagi. Some versions of the myth also have the sun goddess Amaterasu married to her brother Tsukuyomi.
30th Mar '15 9:46:39 PM nombretomado
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* EgyptianMythology: Isis and Osiris, Nephthys and Set. In some versions of the mythos, Isis gives birth to reincarnations of herself and her husband who mate even before birth - may sound icky at first, but this is in all probability a fertility myth inspired by the constant rebirth of plants and harvest.

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* EgyptianMythology: Myth/EgyptianMythology: Isis and Osiris, Nephthys and Set. In some versions of the mythos, Isis gives birth to reincarnations of herself and her husband who mate even before birth - may sound icky at first, but this is in all probability a fertility myth inspired by the constant rebirth of plants and harvest.



* ChineseMythology is unclear as to whether human beings originated from divine incest: The first god Fu Xi and the first goddess Nu Wa, both of them beings with human torsos and snake tails, are at once brother and sister as well as husband and wife. It is usually stated that the first human are created as clay figurines by Nu Wa, but both deities are credited as the creators of human.

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* ChineseMythology Myth/ChineseMythology is unclear as to whether human beings originated from divine incest: The first god Fu Xi and the first goddess Nu Wa, both of them beings with human torsos and snake tails, are at once brother and sister as well as husband and wife. It is usually stated that the first human are created as clay figurines by Nu Wa, but both deities are credited as the creators of human.
9th Dec '14 10:49:12 PM Merlock
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** King David's oldest son, Amnon, lusted after his half-sister Tamar, to the point that he raped her.

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** King David's oldest son, Amnon, lusted after raped his half-sister Tamar, to the point that he raped her.Tamar. [[RapeAndRevenge Their other brother Absalom didn't take it kindly]].
13th Aug '14 2:14:08 PM SolomonBlack
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* Literature/TheBible: Adam's and Eve's children only had other family members to mate with.
** This is more implied incest since a common complaint against the Biblical creation story is where Cain's wife came from.

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* Literature/TheBible: Adam's and Eve's children by the more literal readings [[FridgeLogic could only have had other family members to mate with.
with]] but its never said explicitly.
** This is more implied incest since a common complaint against Especially vexing in the Biblical creation story is where mystery of [[UnknownCharacter Cain's wife came from.wife]] who is arguably the 5th human mentioned but comes from nowhere.
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