History BrokenBase / Sports

30th Jul '16 8:13:07 AM Anddrix
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* Tim Tebow for NFL fans. His outspoken religiosity tends to be a BaseBreaker. His abilities as a quarterback even more. Although he led the Denver Broncos to some amazing comeback victories in the 2011 season, his (in)ability to pass well has sparked much criticism.

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* Tim Tebow for NFL fans. His outspoken religiosity tends to be a BaseBreaker.divisive. His abilities as a quarterback even more. Although he led the Denver Broncos to some amazing comeback victories in the 2011 season, his (in)ability to pass well has sparked much criticism.
13th Jul '16 2:54:28 PM kquinn0830
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** One proposed idea for Levi's Stadium is for both the 49ers and the Oakland Raiders to share the same stadium. Proponents support it from an economic standpoint (since both teams are in roughly the same region, why not have them in the same stadium, much like the Mets and Jets?), and opponents point out that the Raiders' historically rowdy fanbase (just look up "Raider Nation") and the [[FandomRivalry rivalry]] between 49ers and Raiders fans--known for getting straight up [[SeriousBusiness violent]] at times--make this a very, ''very'' bad idea.

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** One proposed idea for Levi's Stadium is for both the 49ers and the Oakland Raiders to share the same stadium. Proponents support it from an economic standpoint (since both teams are in roughly the same region, why not have them in the same stadium, much like the Mets Giants and Jets?), and opponents point out that the Raiders' historically rowdy fanbase (just look up "Raider Nation") and the [[FandomRivalry rivalry]] between 49ers and Raiders fans--known for getting straight up [[SeriousBusiness violent]] at times--make this a very, ''very'' bad idea.



* Eli Manning (Peyton's younger brother). Genius clutch god who "outbradyed Brady" ''twice''. Or "Fluke to end all Flukes" who got lucky with a ball stuck in a facemask? Not at all helped by the fact that he was the first overall pick in the 2004 draft which produced an impressive amount of good or very good Quarterbacks and went to the team with the most insane media market in the league. As he is still active, the debate will probably only be settled by another Vince Lombardi Trophy or some seriously awful choking. However, the fact that his play varies from great to "Oh my god I can't look at this" also plays a part.

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* Eli Manning (Peyton's younger brother). Genius clutch god who "outbradyed Brady" ''twice''. Or "Fluke to end all Flukes" who got lucky with a ball stuck in a facemask? Not at all helped by the fact that he was the first overall pick in the 2004 draft which produced an impressive amount of good or very good Quarterbacks and went to the team with the most insane media market in the league. As he is still active, the debate will probably only be settled by another Vince Lombardi Trophy or some seriously awful choking. However, the fact that his play varies from great to "Oh my god I can't look at this" outside of the two Super Bowl seasons has been very inconsistent has also plays played a part.
6th Jul '16 12:51:53 PM Leafsdude
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** The fact that Crosby has multiple team awards [[note]]World Junior, World Championship and two Olympic Golds, including a 2010 Gold Medal after Crosby and Team Canada beat Ovechkin's Russian squad 7-3 in the Quarterfinals, two Stanley Cups and two head-to-head playoff series victories over Ovechkin's Washington Capitals[[/note]] while Ovechkin and his Washington Capitals have yet to win anything but regular season awards doesn't help Ovechkin supporters, either.



* Jay Bouwmeester brings turns Calgary Flames boards into rubble at the mention of his name. He was hired as player that was expected to take the team over the top, but in a league where 50% of the teams qualify for the playoffs, have even failed to do that in his tenure to date. Combined with a low intensity personality and a big paycheck, and the ongoing conflict of him being a capable player on a bad team or being dead weight has nearly brought entire forums to their knees.

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* Jay Bouwmeester brings turns Calgary Flames boards into to rubble at the mention of his name. He was hired acquired as a player that was expected to take the team over the top, but in a league where 50% of the teams qualify for the playoffs, have even failed to do that in his tenure to date. tenure. Combined with a low intensity personality and a big paycheck, and the ongoing conflict of him being a capable player on a bad team or being dead weight has nearly brought entire forums to their knees.
13th Jun '16 7:39:54 AM RezaMaulana98
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* The allegations of Spanish conspiracy in [=MotoGP=] has caused some massive Broken Bases over the last few races. The most notable of those though, is the penalty received by Valentino Rossi over his collision with Marc Marquez at Sepang. He was forced to start from last after being deemed kicking Marquez's bike in that incident. Those who sided with Marquez said that Rossi deserved the penalty, since according to them, he rides dirty and he has some notable & controversial incidents[[note]]such as Jerez 2005, for example[[/note]] with other riders throughout his career. Those who sided with Rossi, however, noted that the incident is started by Marquez running into Rossi's knee; had Marquez seemingly let Lorenzo pass him several laps before the incident happened; and there's no way that someone is able to knock down a 157 kg motorcycle with just a kick [[note]]Even lighter bikes (except minibikes, probably) won't fall down from a kick to the body of the bike. As a proof, in a Moto3 race at Assen earlier this year, Romano Fenati kicked Niklas Ajo's bike and Ajo's bike didn't fell down as a result[[/note]].

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* The allegations of Spanish conspiracy in the 2015 [=MotoGP=] season has caused some massive Broken Bases over the last few races. The most notable of those though, is the penalty received by Valentino Rossi over his collision with Marc Marquez at Sepang. He was forced to start from last after being deemed kicking Marquez's bike in that incident. Those who sided with Marquez said that Rossi deserved the penalty, since according to them, he rides dirty and he has some notable & controversial incidents[[note]]such as Jerez 2005, for example[[/note]] with other riders throughout his career. Those who sided with Rossi, however, noted that the incident is started by Marquez running into Rossi's knee; had Marquez seemingly let Lorenzo pass him several laps before the incident happened; and there's no way that someone is able to knock down a ''moving'' 157 kg motorcycle with just a kick [[note]]Even lighter bikes (except minibikes, probably) won't fall down from a kick to the body of the bike. As a proof, in a Moto3 [=Moto3=] race at Assen earlier this the same year, Romano Fenati kicked Niklas Ajo's bike (a much harder one compared to what allegedly happened during the Rossi-Marquez incident) and Ajo's bike didn't fell down as a result[[/note]].
13th Jun '16 7:34:31 AM RezaMaulana98
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** Although the perception of Premier League is "concentrated the trophies in too few hands" might have been changed due to Leicester City's [[ShockingSwerve shockingly unexpected title in 2015-16]], proving that you don't need to be a powerhouse team[[note]]The season before Leicester won the title, they were ''almost'' relegated, and was actually predicted to be relegated in the season they win it[[/note]] or need to have lots of money[[note]]Leicester's first-team squad in 2015-16 costs ''just'' 22 million pounds, with normal powerhouse teams has ''at least'' one player that costs more than that[[/note]] to have a shot for the title.

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** Although the perception of Premier League is "concentrated the trophies in too few hands" might have been changed due to Leicester City's [[ShockingSwerve shockingly unexpected title in 2015-16]], proving that you don't need to be a powerhouse team[[note]]The season before Leicester won the title, they were ''almost'' relegated, and was actually predicted to be relegated in the season they win it[[/note]] won it. In addition, Leicester is usually known as a yo-yo team (a team that gets promoted and relegated constantly), and in the 2008-09 season they were in the ''third'' division of English football[[/note]] or need to have lots of money[[note]]Leicester's first-team squad in 2015-16 costs ''just'' 22 million pounds, with normal powerhouse teams has ''at least'' one player that costs more than that[[/note]] to have a shot for the title.
13th Jun '16 7:31:24 AM RezaMaulana98
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** Although the perception of Premier League is "concentrated the trophies in too few hands" might have been changed due to Leicester City's [[ShockingSwerve shockingly unexpected title in 2015-16]], proving that you don't need to be a powerhouse team[[note]]The season before Leicester won the title, they were ''almost'' relegated, and was actually predicted to be relegated in the season they win it[[/note]] or need to have lots of money[[note]]Leicester's first-team squad in 2015-16 costs ''just'' 22 million pounds, with normal powerhouse teams has ''at least'' one player that costs more than that[[/note]] to have a shot for the title.



* Stoke City & Tony Pulis: Practical, pragmatic tactics that allowed Stoke to stay in the Premier League, get to a cup final and qualify for Europe, or dire, dull and dirty?

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* Stoke City & under Tony Pulis: Practical, pragmatic tactics that allowed Stoke to stay in the Premier League, get to a cup final and qualify for Europe, or dire, dull and dirty?
9th Jun '16 7:40:13 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** One proposed idea for Levi's Stadium is for both the 49ers and the Oakland Raiders to share the same stadium. Proponents support it from an economic standpoint (since both teams are in roughly the same region, why not have them in the same stadium, much like the Mets and Jets?), and opponents point out that the Raiders' historically rowdy fanbase (just look up "Raider Nation") and the [[FandomRivalry rivalry]] between 49ers and Raiders fans--known for getting straight up [[SeriousBusiness violent]] at times--make this a very, ''very'' bad idea.
31st May '16 10:01:30 AM KrisDK
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* In cycling, any ex-doper returning to the sport, no matter the role, can spark a lot of debate.
6th May '16 4:48:14 PM Jhonny
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* Eli Manning (Peyton's younger brother). Genius clutch god who "outbradyed Brady" ''twice''. Or "Fluke to end all Flukes" who got lucky with a ball stuck in a facemask? Not at all helped by the fact that he was the first overall pick in the 2004 draft which produced an impressive amount of good or very good Quarterbacks and went to the team with the most insane media market in the league. As he is still active, the debate will probably only be settled by another Vince Lombardi Trophy or some seriously awful choking. However, the fact that his play varies from great to "Oh my god I can't look at this" also plays a part.
6th May '16 4:42:59 PM Jhonny
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* Peyton Manning is either the Jesus Christ of professional American football, or he's an overrated, whiny douchebag who chokes in pressure situations. The latter group had mostly grown silent since the Colts won Super Bowl XLI, but their loss to the Saints was like miracle CPR to them, as Manning threw a critical interception in the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XLIV which ensured a Colts defeat.

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* Peyton Manning Creator/PeytonManning is either the Jesus Christ of professional American football, or he's an overrated, whiny douchebag who chokes in pressure situations. The latter group had mostly grown silent since the Colts won Super Bowl XLI, but their loss to the Saints was like miracle CPR to them, as Manning threw a critical interception in the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XLIV which ensured a Colts defeat. His stint with the Broncos has done nothing to silence the debate. First he produced an unquestionably great regular season, shattering records and earning MVP in the process only to spectacularly lose in the Super Bowl (though his own statistical production in the game was decent at the very least). Then, two years later, he plays an abysmal injury plagued regular season, gets benched in favor of his backup and somehow still makes it to the Super Bowl which his defense wins for him (though he did not make any major mistake and Cam Newton did not look good in the game either). The debate comes down to individual achievements versus team performance or more crudely "stats vs. rings". Often those debates are complicated by dragging Tom Brady into it who is in many ways Peyton's foil and has his own very vocal fans and detractors.
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