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Whether it's from original to remake, prequel to sequel, or even scene to scene, film fans are not unknown for succumbing to BrokenBase.

!!Films and film franchises with their own pages
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* BrokenBase/MarvelCinematicUniverse
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[[folder:Animated Films]]
* ''Disney/BigHero6'':
** Whether Disney adapting a Marvel property into an animated film is a revolutionary step for the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, or just an example of them forcing the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse into everywhere. For its part Disney has made little mention of ''Big Hero 6'' being a Marvel property (aside from mentioning been "based on the Marvel comic series" in the trailer), and explicitly said it's not part of the MCU.
** The mixed heritage the film shares between White and Japanese -- notably the immigration of the comic's Japan focused setting to the now fictionalized amalgamation "San Fransokyo" and the apparent RaceLift with some of the cast (notably Honey and Wasabi). While some view this as a bold change by Disney to become the first animated film to prominently feature individuals of a mixed heritages, others compare the change unfavorably to ''Film/TheLastAirbender''.
** After the film's release, some people don't like how the only characters to get any CharacterDevelopment are Hiro and Baymax, while others are glad that the movie didn't try to bite off more than it could chew by trying to tell too many stories.
* Audiences are divided over the pacing, the multiple stories, the use of a modern soundtrack in a historical setting, the comedy, and the climax sequence of ''WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife''.
* Because there are eight decades [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney Animated films]], those who like them seem to be split among many things, for better or for worse.
** There are the 'classicists', who only like the films that Creator/WaltDisney himself produced and refuse to watch anything past ''Disney/TheJungleBook'', especially with the severe changes in animation styles, modernisms in themes and dialogue, and "less timeless feel" (despite the next group below declaring otherwise with the latter quoted statement).
** In contrast, some people in another group called the 'modernists', don't like most of the films before the current modern era (both the Disney Renaissance and Pixar), as they believe that (in terms of their themes and their stereotypes; specifically their portrayal of women and animals) a majority of them have not aged very well, whereas the modern Disney/Pixar films (heck, maybe even the live-action reboots) broach more thought-provoking themes and feature wittier dialogue, along with stereotypes that aren't as, if not at all offensive.
** Others ''only'' like the films from the 1990's. Those are the more biased 'Renaissance-era modernists'.
** More recently there has grown a base who like the films up to ''The Jungle Book'' and on from ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', but nothing in between, especially the computer-animated films.
** However, as far as animation quality goes, the consistency of the films can't really be compared: look carefully at some of the very earliest Disney films such as ''{{Dumbo}}'', and you will see [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness animation and continuity errors]].
** The names of the films starting with ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' is a highly controversial topic that is the source of many jokes and much scorn. There has been a trend of undescriptive, one-word titles like ''Gigantic'' and ''Frozen'' compared to older titles which are longer or outright named after the source. Many hate these names and think they sound stupid while others think this trend helps the mass-appeal of the films and believe that the older title trend is too generic and dated for today's standards.
** Franchise/DisneyPrincess films in general. Does Disney produce too many of them or does it even matter if the films are good? There are those who prefer the royalty themed works while others prefer non-princess materials.
** Disney fans who have accepted the [[DisneyAnimatedCanon studio]]'s shift to [[AllCGICartoon computer animation]] and consider the likes of ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', ''Disney/WreckItRalph'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' and so on to be a fresh return to form after the DorkAge of the 2000s vs. Disney fans who feel strongly aliented with the studio shutting down traditional animation production for good and consider all the computer-animated films they've made so far to be not as "truly Disney" as their more iconic hand-drawn animated output at best and an unforgivable betrayal to their animation roots and identity at worst. And then there's [[TakeAThirdOption the third group]] that loves the CGI films but don't want Disney to completely abandon traditional animation. With the new style of "traditional-looking CGI", as most famously seen in the 2012 short ''Disney/{{Paperman}}'', starting to develop there's a new pillar coming into the debate.
** The "same-face" debates that crop up whenever Disney releases a new animated film with a female lead or character. There's a number of arguments with the assumption that Disney's character design team are just getting lazy with their designs and making their female characters look too similar (Rapunzel is often accused of being the start of it and acting as a template for future designs). This supposed lack of diverse facial designs (with some exceptions, most notably [[{{Disney/Moana}} Maui]]) can stem from either creative sterility or an over-reliance on computer animation or sexism or an adherence to a money making formula/aesthetic or whatever. Others disagree with these accusations and feel that they're thrown out far too often as an intellectual nitpick when {{Disney/Moana}} and even [[{{Disney/Zootopia}} Mrs. Otterton]] are accused of "same-face".
** Generally ''any'' mentioning of direct-to-video or undemanded sequels, particularly the Direct to Video ones not officially part of the DisneyAnimatedCanon. Are they cheap soulless trash that taints the reputation of the original films, or are they enjoyable further add on adventures to beloved iconic characters? Some will also contend that only certain ones suck, while others had genuine effort and respect put into them, even if the majority of them were somewhat unnecessary to begin with. This is especially the case for later higher budget Disney sequels such as ''[[{{Bambi}} Bambi 2]]'', ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' and ''Disney/CinderellaIIIATwistInTime''.
* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'':
** Prior to release the film had one of the most broken bases of all the Disney films. Everything was dissected, debated, and moaned about-- the jump from hand-drawn animation to a computer-animated feature, allegations of Disney being "racist", the Snow Queen and Anna being RelatedInTheAdaptation, Elsa being given a case of AdaptationalHeroism, and most infamously the reaction to Anna's and Elsa's leaked stock art (with their character designs looking a little too identical to Rapunzel from Tangled). Half of the fandom expected the movie to be a watered-down Tangled clone that would be dead upon arrival, while others were looking forward to at least a moderately successful, decent film. Once it came out most of the criticism near-instantly vanished and it became a ''huge'' SleeperHit.
** Despite an astronomical amount of media exposure it wasn't long before many people, including fans of the film, became very sick and tired of the interminable hype; this was especially so during the 2014 Christmas period where it became almost unavoidable. Now, the film's fanbase is divided between those that love the movie and believe it deserves every bit of praise and attention it gets, and the fans that think the movie has become far too popular for its own good and exploited to a negative extreme.
** With the increasing amount of [[WhatCouldHaveBeen pre-development and unused concepts]] being discovered the fandom is broken on whether changing Elsa from a villain to a more sympathetic character was a good idea. For most of development Elsa was written as the antagonist until circa mid-to-late 2014 they retooled her character completely. Supporters of "evil!Elsa" think that she could have been a fun villain, miss the lack of a "proper" antagonist (and VillainSong), believe the relationship between [[CainAndAbel her and Anna]] could have developed in just as good (if not a better) way, and see the movie as having plot holes because it was done too quickly. Supporters of the current Elsa think the story wouldn't be nearly as popular or as good if Elsa was Anna's disgruntled sister and [[spoiler:think Hans being a subtle villain was a much better twist]].
** Elsa's sexuality has created a split in the fandom between those who consider her story a [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything thin metaphor]] for being [[AmbiguouslyGay lesbian]] or {{asexual}}, those who think the others are looking too much into nothing, and those who just don't care about Elsa's romance life.
** The OfficialCouple of Kristoff and Anna has caused this, even ignoring ShipToShipCombat. There are the majority who support it while the minority thinks they work better as platonic and/or think there wasn't any actual buildup to them.
* ''WesternAnimation/AGoofyMovie'' has one between ''WesternAnimation/GoofTroop'' fans and non-''Troop'' fans, and one between people who like ''WesternAnimation/AnExtremelyGoofyMovie'' and those who don't. The first two groups tend to go hand-in-hand, as do the second groups. The biggest consensus is that ''An Extremely Goofy Movie'' is not a very good stand-alone sequel, but is a great culminating [[TheMovie film of the series]].
* Some praise ''WesternAnimation/{{Home}}'' for having a black protagonist and ''not'' have her race be central to the story, others feel that the ''lack'' of focus on it is annoying.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kubo and the Two Strings}}'' gets praised by almost the entire consensus for its story respecting traditional Japanese storytelling and ancient Japanese culture extremely well (as well as being highly creative), yet it gets flak as well by some others for supposedly being too generic, predictable and/or convoluted. However, no matter what side of the fence you'd be on, there's no denying that the animation is just ''absolutely gorgeous''!
* ''Disney/TheLionKing'':
** The sequels. To some, they are extremely impressive and some of the few good Disney sequels made. To others, they are a complete mess with various retcons and errors.
** There has become an issue between Kion fans and Kopa fans (basically ''The Lion Guard'' vs Most-Other-Media). Kopa was the son of Simba in the ''Six New Adventures'' series of licensed books. The direct-to-video sequel ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' made Kopa non-canon however the fandom avoided a "Kiara vs Kopa" war by [[EpilepticTrees working around]] Kiara, and insisting that Kiara is secretly Simba's and Nala's second child after Kopa was killed. Kion from ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' is considerably harder to mix into the previous {{fanon}} though. The series is a sort of midquel in-between the cub portion of ''Simba's Pride'' and the adult portion, with many a {{retcon}} sprinkled in (such as Kiara even [[RememberTheNewGuy having]] a younger brother). Thus Kopa fans are particularly bitter about Kion and view him as an unneeded SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute. Many Kion fans on the other hand note Kopa is considered only [[CanonDiscontinuity semi-canon]], that [=TLG=] can easily be in an AlternateUniverse, and enjoy Kion as a character. The two cubs look near-identical and are vastly similar which only adds to the issue.
* ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'':
** Does it taking so many creative liberties with the true story it's based on make it a bad movie, or a fine, if slightly flawed, one that can still be enjoyed despite said creative liberties? The divisiveness over whether ''Pocahontas'' was a mistake or not rages on even now, even on ThisVeryWiki.
** This extends to its SignatureSong, "Colors of the Wind", as well. Is it [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic one of the best and most memorable songs ever to grace a Disney movie]]? Or is it overrated and/or too {{Anvilicious}} for its own good?
* Creator/{{Pixar}}:
** There's a divide on whether or not Pixar has managed to get out of their Dork Age yet; some people think that they have due to the universal acclaim of ''Inside Out'' and very positive reception of ''Finding Dory'', but others feel that they still have some ways to go, with ''The Good Dinosaur'' widely being considered SoOkayItsAverage and ''Finding Dory'' still being seen as slightly below Pixar standards.
** ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' vs ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2''. While the first one was an instant classic, the sequel is often thought of as being an EvenBetterSequel which has led to much dispute between fans of the first.
** Is ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars 2}}'' a shining example of {{sequelitis}}, or is it just as good as the original (however good you thought the original was)?
** Then came ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'': another step downhill following ''Cars 2'', just as good as the non-Cars movies, SoOkayItsAverage (particularly because of HypeBacklash), too much of a ClicheStorm... also, add the Oscar win over ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' and discussions can get heated.
** It happened again with ''WesternAnimation/MonstersUniversity''. It was better received than the previous two films, especially Cars 2, but that hasn't stopped many Pixar fans from giving negative reviews of it.
** ''WesternAnimation/TheGoodDinosaur'' [[ToughActToFollow quickly became the]] ''Pocahontas'' to ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'''s ''The Lion King''. Is it a respectable and [[TearJerker heart-string tugging]] addition to Pixar's line-up? Is it an immense disappointment after the smash hit that was ''Inside Out''? Or is it still an decently enjoyable movie even with it coming off the heels of ''Inside Out''? Additionally, did the TroubledProduction do it any good, or did it result in some messy story-telling in the long-term?
** Although most people agreed that ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' was a great movie, it is at the same time, debated whether it meets Pixar's traditional quality standards (like its predecessor) or not.
* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooFrankencreepy'': Daphne's "[[FatGirl curse]]" and the resolution. Some people view it as sending the message to young girls that you're only valuable if you're thin and pretty enough for a guy to like you; others see it as Daphne being superficial and ultimately learning that she doesn't ''have'' to have a Barbie-like appearance, thanks in part to [[ImpliedLoveInterest Fred's]] supportiveness.
* Tobias Lelle as the new German voice of Squidward in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater''. Some think he has a lot of potential and competently succeeds the late Eberhard Prüter, and are willing to give him a chance. Others think he's too unrefined and inconsistent in his voice, sometimes sounding like Rodger Bumpass' interpretation, other times sounding closer to his own voice. In the latter side's defence though, Prüter had a very distinctive and very natural-speaking voice, and that was what he used for the show's German dub; therefore it was always going to make him a ToughActtoFollow anyway.
* ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'':
** The biggest base breaker is without a doubt... the name. It was originally named "Rapunzel Unbraided" before they retooled it to being more like a standard Disney film and it became "Rapunzel". Several months prior to release came the news it was officially renamed ''Tangled'' and the then-budding fandom was sent into a fury. Many Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon fans consider it a FranchiseOriginalSin that made way to an "oh-so-horrid" trend of one word titles like ''Disney/{{Moana}}'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' (which is pretty ironic considering how most of the older Disney movies had this tactic as well) and that only exists because [[GirlShowGhetto "Rapunzel" was deemed too feminine]]. Others don't care and think the name simply flows fine as it is.
** The topic of Mother Gothel and just how sympathetic she is. She reaches DracoInLeatherPants levels more easily than any other Disney antagonist to date. Many fans have trouble seeing how someone can raise a child and not feel at least a ''little'' maternal affection for her while others think she was simply a completely abusive mother who didn't view Rapunzel as anything more than an object.
* In Brazil, the 1997 reissue of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' had [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV_qnRq404Q "Part of Your World"]] changed into [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shQSv9y8LwM a new version with another singer and slightly different lyrics.]] Either song will always ignite an argument on which is better, with TheyChangedItNowItSucks and NostalgiaFilter frequently being brought up.
* Some fans have taken issue with how ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}'s origin was handled in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', being changed from Kate fending off a mugger and Batman arriving only to realize that she'd taken care of the mugger to Batman saving her from AttemptedRape by four goons. The three main issues are many seeing her inability to fight them off and not be in top shape as a weakening of the character and even making her a DamselInDistress, Kate rudely brushing off Batman's hand when he offers to help her up (as opposed to being awestruck and accepting the help) as casting a negative light on Kate, and her taking up being Batwoman out of resentment for needing to be rescued as cliche, (though SocietyMarchesOn meant that her original origin of deciding to be Batwoman as an alternative to helping out after her was forced out by "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy was outdated now that it's been repelled).
* Is Film/SpaceJam one of the coolest sports movies to come out of the [[TheNineties 90s]] or old garbage?
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[[folder:Live-Action Films]]
* Is Film/AngryVideoGameNerdTheMovie a great B-movie experience or James Rolfe's weakest/worst work?
* A general issue with film fans is the topic of "colorizing" older works. Some love seeing movies, and occasionally TV series, in color while others feel it ruins the films and they should stay b&w.
* {{Horror}} fans seems to be split over the quality of audacious foreign horror films when compared to American horror films. They're either refreshing and daring, or gory pretentious crap.
** Also among horror fans there's a sub-debate on what should be considered a ''Horror'' film as oppose to a ''Thriller'' and vice versa. Some feel that ''Thrillers'' are neutered horror films made for people who can't hack "''Real''" horror.
** Another divide is over the style and approach of making horror Films/Books, etc... Some prefer the subtlety of NothingIsScarier, MaybeMagicMaybeMundane, and DoingInTheWizard approach (Exemplified by the people who thought ''Film/TheDescent'' was good "Until the crawlers showed up"), Some preferring the ThroughTheEyesOfMadness approach, some prefer the {{Gorn}} approach. Or perhaps some prefer the AttackOfTheKillerWhatever and or AttackOfThe50FootWhatever. Some even take the diplomatic approach and prefer all of the above.
** And within the film medium there's the whole debate over when is dark, bleak, and depressing, ''too dark, bleak and depressing?'' And the use of the DownerEnding... Some are of the opinion that people are CompletelyMissingThePoint and that horror is ''SUPPOSED'' to be dark, bleak, and depressing. Others take the view that using such a limiting definition and emotional palate only serves to make everything ultimately seem exactly the same.
*** NecessaryWeasel, and AnthropicPrinciple plays a HUGE part in these debates.
** Speaking of dark tones, A common problem in horror movies tends to be the fact some fans see the genre as nothing but DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. For example: The cast of potential victims is presented as a bunch of [[{{Jerkass}} obnoxious jerks]], and/or [[TooDumbToLive complete idiots,]] to the point where it's hard to feel bad for them when they finally start dying. [[RootingForTheEmpire Although for many that's part of the appeal]]. On the other hand, if the horror movie has a sympathetic family as a victim it could have another negative effect ranging from ShootTheDog to MoralEventHorizon (as far as the writers, creators etc...unfairly or not) to CrossesTheLineTwice. Which could also turn off certain groups of horror fans as well, [[AcceptableTargets which possibly explain the constant obnoxious jerk characters as a substitute]], and villains constantly being prone to being DracoInLeatherPants. Horror films (especially mainstream American horror films) likes to be broadly appealing. You can't have a popular horror film where [[{{Expy}} expies]] of TheWaltons and [[TheCosbyShow The Cosbys]] are brutally murdered by the Psycho/Demon/Werewolf/Vampire/Alien. Of course, while it might be ''too'' horrifying to subject, say, a charming, wholesome, likeable family to the events of a horror film, making potential victims unlikable and [[RootingForTheEmpire rooting for the monster]] are both ComicallyMissingThePoint of horror. Why should you be scared of something you're actually hoping to happen? This is sort of a inherent divisiveness within the genre. Horror fans want to be scared, but doesn't want it to come by way of hurting innocent likeable characters. Which is terribly ironic considering certain horror fans complain about the genre ''lacking'' likeable characters.
** The disagreements over bleak and dark tone seems to be mostly a matter of personal taste than anything.
*** Same with having ''[[RealAfterAll actual]]'' ghosts/demons/aliens etc..in the film. Some people think that's what makes a real horror film while others think it's a cheap gimmick.
** And whether or not to [[SlidingScaleOfComedyAndHorror use humor and comedy]]. Does it add to the movie, and mood or destroys it?
** For the Literature medium there are those who prefer the short and simple stories to the 900 page {{Doorstop|per}}s. Mostly because they think Horror stories are much more effective as short stories, as bigger books tends to drag.
** There's also a debate over perceived attitudes towards the genre. For instance on message boards there will be a fan who'll be like [[SincerityMode "Yaaay they're making Terror On Cliched Street part 20!"]], and another disgruntled one who'll be like "*ugh* Hollywood has run out of ideas". The latter thinking the former is everything that is wrong with horror today. While the former think that the latter group are a bunch of pretentious {{Jerkass}}es who think foreign horror is the best thing since indoor plumbing, and is taking the genre [[SeriousBusiness too seriously]]. While the latter fires back by saying they're the ones that are giving horror fans a "bad name" (and by extension the whole genre).
** Even then people argue that if it doesn't have any supernatural/fantasy/sci-fi elements it's not a real horror film. Some think adding too much sci-fi and technobable ruins the genre, likely a microcosm of the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane approach where they use science or sci-fi to explain away the paranormal/supernatural (which some see as a cop out). Same thing can be said for adding in action (See James Cameron's ''Aliens'' below)
** In addition to the above is it a bad idea to try and explain everything in a horror story/plot. Or is it best to leave it mysterious and vague?, Or is that a WriterCopOut?
** Anytime a MaybeMagicMaybeMundane horror movie turns out to be RealAfterAll. Case in point ''Film/TheLastExorcism''.
** There's also accusations of people RunningTheAsylum for the worse, By keeping all of the arguably negative stuff around because they think it's the norm for the genre. Creating a horror version of SciFiGhetto.
** FoundFootage horror is very polarizing among horror fans. ''Regardless'' of how well made they might be.
** It doesn't help that the horror genre is subjective (and polarizing) to begin with.
* Speaking of horror films, there seems to be a divide on how to make zombie films, and what makes a good zombie film as oppose to a generic zombie film. Should they be humorous zombie killing action pieces? Or dramatic, thought provoking, Socio-Political commentary and or deep character studies?
** As mentioned in the ''28 Days Later'' example, what does or does not constitute a proper cinema Zombie is up for big debate. Can Zombies be fast or does that fly in the face of what a Zombie should be? Are they mindless walking corpses with no goal other than to eat the living, or should they have a deeper level that allows them to form basic plans and organize? Are they caused by magic? toxic waste? a virus? Numerous fans will insist that changing a single element destroys the Zombie title.
* Question: Are ''Film/TwentyEightDaysLater'' and its sequel movies zombie movies? It may seem like a simple yes-or-no question, but there are places on the Internet where you will be lynched if you get the answer wrong.
* The ''{{Franchise/Alien}}'' franchise, in all its forms:
** Although most fans seem to generally agree that the first two films, ''{{Film/Alien}}'' and ''{{Film/Aliens}}'', are of higher quality than anything that came after it, there are arguments over which film is ''better''. Some prefer the cerebral horror, mounting tension and AnyoneCanDie mentality of the first film (and hate what Creator/JamesCameron did to the franchise afterwards), while others prefer the militaristic non-stop action and Ripley's CharacterDevelopment of the second.
** ''Film/{{Alien 3}}'' splintered the fanbase into [[{{Hatedom}} pieces]] over its continuation of the story from the previous film, leaving fans in different camps:
*** Were Hicks' and Newt's death justified because they wouldn't have contributed much to the action on Fury 161, or was it cruel, pointless, nihilistic and nonsensical due to the chain of events that caused it?
*** Was the return to the "one alien in a confined space" plot good for the series and Ripley's character development, or was it just rehashing the first film?
** The ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'' spinoffs fueled many debates and arguments between fans who either hate one or both of the films:
*** Fans of the [[Film/AVPAlienVsPredator first film]] either enjoy it because it finally brings two of the galaxy's biggest enemies face-to-face, or hate it because it squanders the source material and reduces several of the fights to a glorified wrestling match between the two species.
*** Fans of the [[Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem second]] either enjoy it because it has an EnsembleDarkhorse Predator in the form of Wolf and some proper Alien/Predator battles, or hate it because it once again squanders its potential, making it both part-soap opera and a ShaggyDogStory.
** ''{{Film/Prometheus}}'' didn't make things any better, with fan wars springing up in the wake of its release:
*** Is the film a part of the ''Alien'' franchise, a separate story in the same universe, or a completely standalone film? It doesn't help that Creator/RidleyScott has [[FlipFlopOfGod flip-flopped on this]].
*** Is the reveal about the "Space Jockey"/Engineer's true purpose and impact on Earth's development a big step forward for the franchise, or is it a poorly-written, nonsensical excuse to explain a story element that should have remained mysterious?
*** Are the characters reacting realistically to the threat given their observer backgrounds, or are they carbon copies of the characters from ''Alien'' who really should conduct themselves in a scientific manner?
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'': Were [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Nolan's films]] dark, realistic, and thoughtful or just too pretentious and serious? Was ''Film/BatmanForever'' (since ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' is universally hated) entertaining, campy, and respectful to the comics or a long toy commercial with lots of {{Narm}}? Were Tim Burton's films deep, beautiful, well acted, and respectful to the material, or too dark, disrespectful, and violent? Was ''Film/BatmanTheMovie'' [[GuiltyPleasure entertaining]] and [[LargeHam hammy]], or [[{{Narm}} corny]]?
** Best Joker: Creator/HeathLedger, Creator/JackNicholson, or Creator/MarkHamill? Or maybe [[EnsembleDarkHorse Cesar Romero]]?
** Related to Nolan's movies, is ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' an underwhelming finale or just as good as its [[Film/TheDarkKnight predecessor]]([[Film/BatmanBegins s]])? Or is it weaker, but still a satisfying conclusion?
* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', the sequel to ''Man of Steel'', got this before it even started filming:
** Should the film have been a solo Superman sequel from the get-go, or is adding Bruce Wayne/Batman good for the box office? More importantly, is this an actual Superman movie or a "Batman featuring Superman" movie in disguise?
** Creator/BenAffleck chosen as the new Batman for the sequel: there are those who are doubtful about him most especially the fans who still prefer Creator/ChristianBale to reprise the role and those who believe that he can pull off it as Batman.
** The casting of Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman: a great move to finally depict an under-represented female superhero in film, or stunt casting that will be marginalized and near non-existent in the final film? Likewise, does Gadot have the acting experience and/or physique necessary to take on a major female superhero?
* In ''Film/BladeRunner'', is Deckard a replicant, or is that a ridiculous idea that would defeat the entire point of the film?
* ''Film/BladeTrinity'' created an upheaval among fans; some felt the Nightstalkers overshadowed Blade (especially Hannibal King), while others felt the Nightstalkers were the best thing about the movie.
* ''Film/TheBridgesOfMadisonCounty'' is generally well liked. But the fans can't agree on whether or not it's a touching love story, or sentimental nonsense that rationalizes moral failure.
* Fans of ''Film/TheCampaign'' seems to be split on who or what the movie was spoofing. Some believe it was spoofing how over the top political campaigns have gotten. More cynical fans believe their spoofing the naive easily fooled voters.
* The 2013 remake of ''Film/{{Carrie}}'' seems to be seen as either a pointless remake that completely missed the point or a movie that is much better than the 1976 original for being less campy and following the book a little more.
* When it comes to the ''Film/CarryOn'' film series, the fans and the media cannot decide on what is the best and the worst film of the series.
** The best films are often widdled between ''Film/CarryOnCamping'', ''Film/CarryOnCleo'' and ''Film/CarryOnUpTheKhyber''. All three films did successfully domestically -- the first film having the biggest box office smasher of the entire series -- but they were mostly remembered in different ways: the first for Creator/BarbaraWindsor's WardrobeMalfunction, the second for the AffectionateParody and a one-liner from Creator/KennethWilliams, and the third for mostly the final scene. The public are undecided over ''Camping'' and ''Cleo'' because of these reasons, but the media have claimed that ''Khyber'' is the best; the British Film Institute even named it one of the best British films of all time.
** For the worst, everyone can't choose out of ''Film/CarryOnBehind'', ''Film/CarryOnEngland'' and ''Film/CarryOnEmmannuelle''. For many, they're all equally as bad because fan favourite Creator/SidJames wasn't in it and the original writing team had changed. Others say that ''Behind'' wasn't as awful because it had the same "feel" of other films, but the other two had completely changed the "feel" because the new humour focused specifically on sexual innuendo and nudity, which had led people to believe that the ''Carry On''s were trying to compete with the popular ''Film/ConfessionsOfA'' series. Regardless, ''England'' is often called the worst because the regular actors that the fans loved were pushed aside for younger, attractive people (some of them ''actually being'' fashion models, as well as actors), leading them to be resorted to cameos.
* ''Film/{{Cinderella 2015}}'':
** Some fans are annoyed by it being a live-action remake of [[Disney/{{Cinderella}} the classic film]], claiming it's unoriginal and Disney should have adapted the darker Grimm Brothers version. Others are relieved that it's faithful to the classic film, and not a DarkerAndEdgier remake like ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' or ''Film/{{Maleficent}}'' that takes extensive liberties with the plot.
** The appearance of Nonso Anozie as the Captain, a black aristocrat in a European monarchy era setting, caused a firestorm of "historical accuracy" vs. "fantasy kingdom". Not unlike [[Film/{{Thor}} Branagh's]] [[Film/MuchAdoAboutNothing previous movies]]... Of course black aristocrats while rare were not unknown in history and the film's AnachronismStew more than justifies it.
* When it comes to the horror film called ''Film/TheDescent'' there are a lot of AlternateCharacterInterpretation debates concerning Juno and Sarah that have splintered the fandom, and caused a lot of InternetBackdraft...
** Some see Sarah as a [[BreakTheCutie broken sympathetic woman]] who was pushed over the edge by Juno's idiocy and incompetence. She found out about Juno's affair with her husband, and the cover up of the injury to Beth. Others see her as a psycho bitch who unfairly condemned Juno to death by intentionally wounding her leg over a genuine mistake she made.
** Some see Juno as a good (but flawed) friend who was just trying to make the group of friends close again by taking them caving. And acted heroically when they were being attacked by the mutants (for the most part). While others see her as a incompetent home wrecking jackass who got everyone killed.
** Then there's the third group who see both of them as sympathetic flawed characters.
** Group 4 sees them both as unredeemable jackasses who deserved everything they got... But felt sorry for everyone else who was dragged down with them.
*** The surprisingly good sequel gleefully plays with this. Adding more fuel to the fire.
** As mentioned below there's also debates over whether ''The Crawlers'' adds to the film or ruins it.
** There are also some very nasty debates over whether the crawlers really exist or they're just a figment of Sarah's imagination created to help her deal with the fact that ''she'' was the one who killed the other women. Depending on who you ask, there's either absolutely no evidence at all that Sarah murdered all of her friends, or the film hammers your head with so much proof that you must be blind, dead and stupid to try to deny it. There is NO middle ground on this, and the fact that the sequel clearly goes with the interpretation that the crawlers are real has [[FanonDiscontinuity no bearing]] on most arguments.
* George A Romero's ''Film/DiaryOfTheDead'' is either a sign of his further decline, or his rebound.
* ''Film/{{Divergent}}'':
** The announcement that Uriah will be cut from ''Divergent'' and saved for the sequel, ''The Divergent Series: Insurgent''. Some believe that Uriah's purpose in the first book wasn't that important, while others that love the character still call heresy on it.
** Creator/ShaileneWoodley as Tris. A lot of book fans felt she was all wrong for the role, and many reviewers described her performance as "disaffected" - plenty comparing her unfavourably to Creator/KristenStewart in the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' films. Others however, particularly around the time ''The Divergent Series: Insurgent'' was released, praised her as one of the best parts of the franchise - and she enjoyed the same level of hype that Creator/JenniferLawrence got from ''Film/TheHungerGames''.
** In ''Divergent'', there's Tris getting the flag instead of Christina like in the books. Those who argue against the change say that Christina needed her CrowningMomentOfAwesome after being abused by Eric. Others say that it has much more meaning if Tris is the one who gets it, visually showing that she has finally earned her spot (as Christina had never been in danger of being cut).
* ''Film/EscapeFromLA''. Some consider it to be complete garbage, some say it's just as good as ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', and some even say that it's actually '''''better''''' (rumor has it that last camp includes Creator/JohnCarpenter himself).
* The fact that ''Film/TheExpendables3'' [[http://collider.com/the-expendables-3-rating/ was rated PG-13]] in contrast to the R ratings of the first two movies. Also, when a PG-13 rating was announced for the second movie, many fans were upset. Let's not forget that [[http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/the-expendables-3-leaks-online-3-weeks-ahead-of-release-20140725 the third movie was also leaked online]] before it could be released in theaters, and that the movie made #4 at the box office compared to the box office success of the first two movies.
* The fans of the ''Franchise/FinalDestination'' debate whether ''[[Film/FinalDestination3]]'' or ''[[Film/TheFinalDestination]]'' is the worse film, and people disagree on whether ''[[Film/FinalDestination5]]'' is a return to form for the series, or just as bad as the previous two films in the series.
* ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' has the same issues especially with the polarizing ''[[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIITheNewBlood The New Blood]]'' and ''[[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIIIJasonTakesManhattan Jason Takes Manhattan]]''.
* Amid all the kerfuffle about ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'', with many fans claiming on the bases of its premise, or its casting, or its trailers, that it was for whatever reason a horrible betrayal of the [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 original]], or that it could at any rate never match up to the original, it was inevitable that somebody would come along and argue that [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/06/08/can-we-stop-pretending-the-original-ghostbusters-is-a-masterpiec/ the original wasn't all that good in the first place]].
* The Franchise/{{Godzilla}} fandom. Particularly when it comes to the [[Film/{{Godzilla 1998}} American remake]].
** Another example would be the recent Millennium-era films that were released from 1999-2004.
** ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars''. Is Godzilla strong, or ridiculously unbeatable?
** [[Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah Destoroyah's]]. Fans can't agree on whether it should be a male (which he is in the canon of the games), a female (due to many fan observations regarding his...erm...biology), or both/neither (again, due to numerous fan observations). Doesn't help the only film it was in mostly just used gender neutral pronouns or masculine terms without gender being a definite.
** ''Film/KingKongVsGodzilla''. In general, fans are divided over who should've won even though [[WordOfGod Toho Studios]] has stated that Kong technically won. The ambiguous ending doesn't help matters.
** Which ''era'' of Godzilla films is also hotly debated. Were the Showa (1955-1975) films fun yet cheesy films or low-budget over-the-top messes? Was the Heisei (1984-1995) era a good throwback to Godzilla's darker roots or were they nothing but wangst and boring "beam war" fights? And, then there's the aforementioned Millennium era. Good luck getting the fans to agree on any one era.
** Even the monsters that go up against Godzilla fall under this. On the one hand, you got fans who want to see Godzilla go up against more original monsters. On the other, you got fans who want Godzilla to fight more classic monsters like Ghidorah or Mothra. They rarely, if ever, agree with one another on any level.
* ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}'':
** When [[http://www.godzillaisland.com/2013/09/the-2014-godzilla-has-been-leaked.html this leak]] of Godzilla himself was posted online, fans were split. Many believe he looks like he should and that he retains most of his most notable features. On the other hand many don't like the more "human like" eyes of the design, his small teeth, the sauropod-esque feet, and the gills on the side of his neck. Then there's the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0T3VwHzk8n mightily revamped]] sound of his [[HellIsThatNoise roar]]....
*** Thankfully, the new G's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKKvgg-L6g full-length roar from the actual movie]] seems to have struck a better balance between the old and the new.
** When word came that Creator/{{Toho}} had seen the full film several weeks before release and thought it was great, fans were split on whether that praise amounted to anything. Some fans thought that it was proof that the film would be great if the original makers of ''Godzilla'' thought it was so, while others pointed out that Toho have also put their seal of approval on lesser ''Godzilla'' films like ''Film/AllMonstersAttack'' and (initially, at least) ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}''.
** Viewers tend to be split between the camps of "strong entry in the Godzilla series that carries the spirit of [[Film/{{Gojira}} the 1954 original]]" and "weak due to boring human leads and too little Godzilla," with a middle grouping of "good overall, but could have used more Godzilla presence." This spread ''even to professional movie critics.''
** Godzilla's relatively heroic portrayal in this film. His original role as [[GaiasVengeance nature's wrath summoned by humankind's folly]] (the atomic bomb) is downplayed, as the Mutos take that role (awakened by the activities of a mining company) and he arises as their Alpha Predator, nature's way of restoring order and balance. Those against it dislike how the film claimed to be closer to the spirit of ''{{Film/Gojira}}'' by making him more of an antagonist, to the point of [[NeverTrustATrailer editing several trailers]] to make it seem as though Godzilla was the only threat ([[SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer while the Mutos remained absent for a while]]). Those in favor of it claim Godzilla is still a gray-tinted DestructiveSavior and think it's a good way to keep audience sympathy with him while he fights other monsters, so it doesn't turn into [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy an uncheerable]] EvilVersusEvil.
** There are some that complain that the film is nowhere near as dark and grim as the trailers made it out to be.
** The short amount of screen time Godzilla got compared to the human characters. Those who didn't mind it point out that the amount of screen time Godzilla had in the Showa Era films were relatively similar to this film. Those who did mind are divided between whether Godzilla became a secondary character in his own movie, or felt his on-screen presence was sufficient but could have been balanced out by making the human characters more interesting.
** The way the movie keeps teasing the audience by cutting away from the monster battles to the humans. The teasing either makes the climax all the sweeter or sours the whole experience. Many believe the impact of Godzilla's first full-frontal appearance in Hawaii, about to fight one of the Mutos, was weakened by cutting away to Ford's family watching snippets of the fight on the news after it happened. The climactic San Francisco battle is directly shown but still heavily intercut with the humans, especially the soldiers. In contrast, the Japanese movies tend to have longer battles with less interruptions.
** The smaller focus Godzilla got compared to the Mutos. This might be understandable for a sequel where Godzilla is already established, but not for his origin story. The Mutos drive the plot much more than Godzilla does, despite what the trailers would have one believe -- [[spoiler:they're the real "antagonists"; it's them who Bryan Cranston's character is freaking out over. He doesn't even know about Godzilla.]]
** The design of the Mutos. Some think they're too bland with their drab black/grey color, especially since Godzilla is the same color and they fight several times at night. Other like them for how utterly different they look from any previous Kaiju, looking nothing like a man in a suit.
** Although there's really no argument in the hard-core part of the fanbase, some of the more "flexible" fans and general monster movie lovers are divided on whether this movie is better or worse than the 1998 film. Frequently argued-over topics include which one's more fun, has more memorable characters, what their actors are given and how well they pull it off, gives more screen-time for the titular creature, and which depiction of Godzilla is more serviceable to modern, non-fan audiences.
* The ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' series. Some prefer the films with Jamie Lloyd to the ContinuityReboot ''[[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater H20]]'', and Rob Zombie's [[Film/{{Halloween 2007}} films]] are nearly as divisive.
** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', a right direction for the series, or a mistake?
* Then there's ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}''... oh dear God. You got the Original fans, the Zeist people, the TV series fans, the multiple continuity fans, the "strong immortals" fans and their "weak immortals" nemeses, those who cherry pick, those who actually liked The Source, and those that come up with their own unique views. And guess what, that doesn't cover HALF of the categories these fans are grouped into... AND they all hate each other with such a passion it makes Sunnis and Shia look like first graders fighting in a schoolyard.
* Fans of ''Film/HoneyIShrunkTheKids'' either hate the [[Series/HoneyIShrunkTheKids TV series]] for [[{{Retcon}} retconning]] the movies and [[{{Flanderization}} changing the characters]], or love it for the extra adventures and the addition of the TimeMachine. Sometimes there will be middle ground, but whichever {{Continuity}} is preferred depends on who you ask.
* ''Film/IndependenceDayResurgence'': Will Smith not being in the movie. Some feel the movie can work fine without him but others feel him not being in it is a major detriment, to the point where some have refused to watch the film because of it.
* ''Franchise/IndianaJones'': Which one is better, ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' or ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''? Also, are ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' and/or ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'' [[ContestedSequel worth something or not]]?
* ''Film/IntoTheWoods''
** Rapunzel's fate is averted in the movie. According to Sondheim, he tried to get Rapunzel to die in the film like she did in the play. However, most likely due to the more family-oriented audience, they decided they wanted Rapunzel to live. Some are ok with the change and like her getting a [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending with her prince,]] but some argue that Rapunzel's death was very significant for the Witch's arc. Check [[http://www.playbill.com/news/article/sondheim-reveals-plot-changes-for-disney-into-the-woods-film-322631 here]] for the article. A counter point to this says that Rapunzel's death makes more sense in the show - where she's left to fend for herself while pregnant in the desert. In the movie, she's found the next day and so there's less time for her to go mad.
** The removal of a few songs. One song, "No More", is given an instrumental version and [[spoiler:The Baker running away doesn't last for very long. While others argue that it helps the pacing, others retort that it also removes any growth for the Baker. During the song in the stage show, he realizes that by running away, he'd be turning into his father. The film, on the other hand, makes it look like he just needed a moment alone to mourn his wife's death.]] WordOfGod says they wanted to include the song, but it wouldn't make sense with the Mysterious Man's role in act one being removed. To compensate for it, they built on the Baker's fear of turning into his father earlier. It's been debated whether or not it was enough.
** The shortening of the 2nd act overall. They cut a lot compared to the first act. It either still contains what made the message of the original or it lessens it.
* The ''Film/IronMan'' sequels. Are they (like the X-Men example below) a new kind of WolverinePublicity? Is ''Film/IronMan2'' acceptable because Creator/RobertDowneyJr delivers as usual but just damn frustrating? Is ''Film/IronMan3'' a good follow-up to ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' with a legitimately clever and surprising plot twist or a disrespectful movie that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wastes a completely good villain]]? The debate won't cease.
* Among the works of Creator/QuentinTarantino, the film ''Film/JackieBrown'' is a base breaker, with fans generally placing it either at the top or bottom of Tarantino's oevre. As Tarantino's only straight adaptation (of the Creator/ElmoreLeonard novel ''Literature/RumPunch''), it stands as a departure from Tarantino's standard style, so people who like Leonard's style more than Tarantino's style will generally favor it over his other works.
* While Creator/SeanConnery's role as ''Film/JamesBond'' is almost unanimously loved, any other actor playing Bond after him has been either loved or hated by the fans.
** There's two types of James Bond fans: Those who like the more dark, emotional, serious Bonds (and therefore generally prefer Dalton or Craig's roles), and those who like the more camp, joking, lighthearted Bonds (and therefore generally prefer Moore or Brosnan's roles). Ironically, Craig himself has indicated that as a viewer, he prefers the more joking and lighthearted tone... but that the series had to abandon it for fear of being too similar to Austin Powers.
** ''Film/LicenceToKill'' is probably the biggest Broken Base over a single film. Generally a consensus on a film will form within a few years of its release (though there will always be those who disagree). ''Licence to Kill'' is almost always at the top or bottom of movie rankings.
** Honorable mention to ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. Most fans agree the movie itself is good (some rating it among the franchise's best), but George Lazenby's Bond incites no end of arguments.
** ''Film/{{Spectre}}''. The argument was over whether or not SPECTRE should be brought back at all for the 2015 film. More specifically, should they be like in the old films, or should they be revamped into a DarkerAndEdgier set of villains? Also, the theme song, "Writing's on the Wall" by Music/SamSmith, has split opinions [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34357110 ''very widely'']].
* ''Film/LawAbidingCitizen'', the contention comes from arguments on whether the two leads are "good" or "bad" , or whether or not Clyde "won" and proved his point or "lost". people are projecting their own ideology, morality and political beliefs into the film. Much like...
* ''Film/LittleShopOfHorrors'' fans constantly debate over whether the FocusGroupEnding or the original ending is superior.
* ''Film/ManOfSteel'' divided Franchise/{{Superman}} fans:
** Is the film a worthwhile ContinuityReboot that got rid of the baggage from previous films, or are Creator/RichardDonner [=/=] Creator/ChristopherReeve [[FirstInstallmentWins the only ones]] [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight who did it right]]?
** Is Hans Zimmer's score great for the franchise and a fresh new spin, or is it rehashed material that does nothing to honor John Williams' famous compositions?
** Is the film a proper DarkerAndEdgier retelling of the Superman origin that was a long time coming, or is it a weak substitute for the LighterAndSofter Reeve films?
** Pa Kent: a concerned father who was only trying to protect his son, or a borderline {{Jerkass}} who expressed doubts whether Clark should even use his powers at all, let alone for [[ComesGreatResponsibility good]]?
** Should Clark have had more training before his first adventure or not, and why isn't he closer to the [[IdealHero ideal, infallible]], [[IncorruptiblePurePureness impeccable]], and [[InvincibleHero invincible hero]] people expected?
** Did Clark do enough trying to take Zod out of Metropolis in the final fight, or did he [[DesignatedHero not try hard enough]] to stem the level of carnage being done to Smallville and Metropolis?
** Was Clark justified in [[spoiler:killing Zod]]? Or, for other comic fans, the fact that someone involved in this film thought Superman [[spoiler: ''should'' kill.]] Notably, he also [[spoiler: kills Zod in the comics, and in the theatrical version of ''Superman II'']]. Like in the comics and ''unlike'' ''Superman II'' he shows remorse. The degree of remorse and reasons for it are also disputed, though Snyder has hinted that it may have implications in films to come, as it did in the comics.
** Lois [[spoiler:knowing Clark's secret even before he becomes Superman, removing the traditional TwoPersonLoveTriangle]]. Though this happened before in the last season of ''Series/{{Smallville}}''.
* Loki in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. There are four main camps: those who [[DracoInLeatherPants woobify Loki]], those who hate Loki because of all woobifying, those who hate him in general, and those who like/enjoy him as a villain. The haters can be as obnoxious as the woobifiers because they usually try to explain the proper, rational reaction to everything that happened to him [[GenreBlind without even realizing]] that super villains in general don't act rationally. Given that Loki is the God of Mischief, this is somewhat fitting.
* ''Film/TheMatrix'' movie was followed by those other two sequels. Also check out [[http://xkcd.com/566/ this]] ''WebComic/{{xkcd}}'' on Matrix's 10-year anniversary: "Wanna put on the other two? -- Crash! Wham! Ow! Ow!"
* ''Film/MissionImpossible'': fans of [[Series/MissionImpossible the TV show]] and the movies have been fighting since 1996, when the movie portrayed the main character of the TV series, Jim Phelps as the villain.
* Fans are often divided over who was really responsible for ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas.'' Was it Creator/TimBurton who wrote the original poem that the film was based off of or was it Henry Selick who directed the film?
** Which is weird as while Burton did write the original idea and drew many design sketches, he had almost nothing else to do with the project, as he was busy during the time with both ''Film/BatmanReturns'' and ''Film/EdWood'' and only oversaw production.
* Creator/TomSavini's version of ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1990''. Some saying it's a terrible remake that tarnishes the [[Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968 original]]. While others says that it's incredibly underrated and complements the original, Some saying it's far more entertaining. Sub-arguments of this film are;
** Patricia Tallman's interpretation of Barbara vs the original actress (O'dea) interpretation. Plus there's the TookALevelInBadAss that Tallman's character took.
** Tony Todd vs Duane Jones' version of Ben.
** Whether or not the revamped ending is better than the original.
* Some of the ''Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet'' sequels created a BrokenBase. ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet3DreamWarriors Dream Warriors]]'' (which some even see as ''THE'' best NOES film), and ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet4TheDreamMaster The Dream Master]]'' are usually highly reguarded. Where as ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge Freddy's Revenge]]'', ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet5TheDreamChild The Dream Child]]'' (Though some say had a great surreal eerie look, and interesting ideas), and ''Film/FreddysDeadTheFinalNightmare'' is the least liked, though there are a few who say ''Freddy's Revenge'', and ''Dream Child'' is not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, But fans generally all agree that ''Freddy's Dead'' is the ''worst''. And don't even bring up ''Film/WesCravensNewNightmare'' which is especially polarizing ([[CriticalDissonance despite good reviews]]). And then there's [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet2010 the remake]]. There's also a dispute about who was the better heroine of the franchise: Nancy, or Alice?
* ''Film/PacificRim'': While few will question the entertainment value of the action set pieces, opinion is sharply divided on whether the writing and story are good. And many feel that the secondary characters, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter several of whom were killed off in short order]], were more interesting than the main characters.
* The film ''Film/ParanormalActivity'' has about three different endings, and sure enough there's three different groups of fans that support one of the three endings over the others.
** The sequels are liked to various degrees, but are liked overall. However, [[Film/ParanormalActivity4 part four]] has essentially broken the base. Some say it added more mystery and background to the series, while others say it was slow and boring and didn't explain anything.
* There is a large split among great numbers of the fans of Creator/PeterJackson. First, there are fans who prefer only his early SoBadItsGood blood-splatter films ''Film/BadTaste'', ''Film/MeetTheFeebles'', and ''Film/BrainDead''. These guys tend to think that Jackson [[MoneyDearBoy sold out]] when he made the [[SarcasmMode unimaginative]], long, and boring Film/TheLordOfTheRings [[FilmoftheBook films]] and turned his back on TrueArt. Then there are the newer fans, most of whom were brought into the fold by Film/TheLordoftheRings, do not like his splatter films, but appreciate ''Film/HeavenlyCreatures'', ''Film/ForgottenSilver'', and ''Film/TheFrighteners''. The first group of fans looks on the second group as children, noobs, and various other Know-Nothings. The [[FlameWar flame wars]] fought over [[WhatAnIdiot the body of Jackson's work]] can get very [[InternetBackdraft nasty]]. Evidently, appreciation for the entirety of his work is just [[OpinionMyopia unthinkable]] to some.
* ''Film/{{Phantasm}}'' films:
** ''Film/PhantasmIIILordOfTheDead'' is polarizing among the phantasm fandom. Also there's other points of contention like..
** Is the Tallman of supernatural origin?, Or alien origin? (in the SciFi sense). The series is very vague about this.
** The sudden death of [[spoiler: Liz from [[Film/PhantasmII the second film]]]] is kinda dicey as well.
** Tim and Rocky from ''Phantasm III''. Cool Badass characters or over the top and out of place?
* ''Franchise/PlanetOfTheApes'': The timelines of [[Film/PlanetOfTheApes1968 the original film]]. There are devotees of the "it's all a giant circular timeline" theory, ie the aftermath of 'Film/BattleForThePlanetOfTheApes' ends up back at the beginning of film one, and devotees of the idea that Zira and Cornelius changed history by coming into the past with Caesar. ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' has gotten into this, with those who loved it and think it was an intelligent film and those who think it had way too many plot holes, MythologyGag stuff and logic failures.
* ''Film/PunisherWarZone'': is it a return to the series' roots after the intensely personal ''The Punisher'' from 2004, or is it an over-the-top violent spectacle that strays too far from the character of Frank Castle. Also, is it either completely horrible or the best ''Punisher'' film ever? Discussed in this Creator/PattonOswalt [[http://www.earwolf.com/episode/punisher-war-zone/ podcast]]
*** There's also a debate on whether or not Punisher is actually mainstream film material. Most of the violence people complained about in ''War Zone'' came directly from the comics.
* ''Film/ThePurge'' franchise is unusual in that fans are split on the FIRST entry, mainly due to accusations of BaitAndSwitch. The second film has a much better reputation, as giving viewers exactly what they were promised.
* People are divided on whether or not ''Film/ThePursuitOfHappyness'' has a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop or not.
* ''Film/{{REC}} 3'', has proven to be quite polarizing when compared to the first 2 films. There's also complaints about the inconsistency of how the "infected" is portrayed.
** Whether or not it's a straight forward horror film or a horror comedy. The inclusion of overt humor put some people off while others were ok with it.
* The ''Film/ResidentEvil'' films, so much so that from an objective point of view it's actually two completely different groups of fandom at each others' throats. One group is the fanbase from [[Franchise/ResidentEvil the games]], the others are solely fans of the films. In the beginning there might have been some cross pollination. But around the time the second film arrived (or maybe the third) fans of the game split off. Relatively leaving only the PeripheryDemographic as a fanbase for the film franchise. These two groups DO NOT like each other.
** The character of Alice is also very polarizing.
** The CG films vs. the live action films.
* ''Film/RoboCop2'' is particularly [[ContestedSequel polarizing]], though most fans generally agree that [[Film/RoboCop3 the third]] was a movie [[MerchandiseDriven made to sell toys]].
* The two versions of ''Film/TheShining'': Creator/StanleyKubrick's version is a horror masterpiece, or a travesty that defiled Creator/StephenKing's [[Literature/TheShining original novel]]. The remake is a triumphant vindication of King's vision, or a dreadfully sub-par made-for-TV movie.
** Kubrick's ''Film/EyesWideShut'' qualifies as well.
* Franchise/SpiderMan
** ''Film/SpiderMan3'' received a more contentious reception compared to the beloved ''Film/SpiderMan'' and ''Film/SpiderMan2''. While there are several people who view the movie as passable and even enjoyable, most fans view it as mediocre to awful with much criticism aimed at the movie for questionable characterization and overabundance of villains. Venom's depiction was particularly hated by comic book fans who feel that he did not resemble his comic book incarnation and was [[ExecutiveMeddling added in against director Sam Raimi's objections]].
** Its {{Reboot}}, ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' gets its own one over ''[[UnpleasableFanbase everything]]'' from its characterization, inspirations from the ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan mythos, and attempts to become a {{Shared Universe}}.[[note]]Except Creator/EmmaStone as Gwen Stacy, however.[[/note]]. Everything the base ''can'' be broken over, is.
* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'': [[spoiler: For starters, was Khan's casting worth it to see Creator/BenedictCumberbatch's acting talent, or was it pointless whitewashing of a famous person of color role?]] There's also the divide over the film being essentially a remake of a few specific Star Trek films, and [[spoiler: Kirk's DisneyDeath]].
* The whole revamp of the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' franchise prompted this -- actually quite good, or a [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks betrayal of the original franchise and all it stood for, just a cliché sci-fi action movie, whatever?]] And then there's the fans of the 2009 movie who never bothered to watch Star Trek until then.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Fans of ''Star Wars'' used to be a happy bunch. However, the release of the prequel trilogy from 1999-2005 formed a huge chasm between fans that still exists today. The fans continue to debate the quality of the prequels, and opinions are often very mixed; some like them, some dislike them, some are neutral on them, some fiercely defend them and some outright despise them. The general consensus among fans is this: The prequels are not as good as the original movies (and will never be as iconic), but they at least contributed a decent number of fresh characters, worlds and ideas to the Star Wars universe.
** The relevance and relative quality of the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' to the films themselves creates debate as well.
** When word got out that new Star Wars movies would be finally made, the chasm that the prequels created expanded, with one side excited for new Star Wars movies, and the other seeing this is greedy corporate exploitation of a CashCowFranchise.
*** The first new movie, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'': A good return to classic 'Star Wars' or a retread of 'A New Hope' with very little actual new material?
*** Kylo Ren: Good villain, or whiny and unappealing like [[spoiler:his grandfather as a young man]]? A good character type in his own right or a third-rate Jacen Solo knockoff just ''begging'' [[spoiler: for a Jaina to skewer him]]?
*** The death of [[spoiler:Han Solo]]: Necessary or overkill? Real or will there be a twist in the next movie?
*** The very question of "Who are Rey's parents?" may very well tear the fandom apart. Are they Han and Leia (which was the most popular belief prior to release)? Luke and a currently unknown mother (most common post-release theory)? Or is she really "no one"? And that isn't even getting into theories like her being Obi-Wan's granddaughter or a great-to-the-whatever descendant of the [[KnightsOftheOldRepublic Shan]] or [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Sunrider]] families (not likely, given CanonDiscontinuity, but this is StarWars, stranger stuff has happened).
* ''Film/SupermanReturns'' led to fan arguments, with some saying it captured the feel of the Christopher Reeve movies, and others feeling that it ignored the comics and/or upset about how [[spoiler: he left for five years for a stupid reason--that some fans use fanon to justify -- only to come back and learn that he'd left a bun in Lois' oven]].
* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'':
** Was the use of [[SerkisFolk performance capture and CGI]] over animatronics, like the earlier live-action films, a good thing or not?
** The faces of the Turtles, with a mix of human and reptilian features. Some think they look strange and bizarre, whilst others think they look perfectly suitable for the Turtles.
** The individual designs of the Turtles. Either they're cool and appropriate or way too cluttered.
** The Turtles and Splinter are revealed to [[spoiler:have been lab animals who were April's "pets" back when her father studied the mutagen with Sacks, before the lab was destroyed and they were exposed to the mutagen by accident.]] This is [[OlderThanTheyThink similar to the IDW comics]] [[spoiler:where April was an intern,]] but ''without'' [[spoiler:the {{reincarnation}} aspect that still retained Hamato Yoshi's feud with the Shredder (who is immortal in that universe).]] Regardless, some think it's too contrived, while others like that [[spoiler:Splinter and the turtles now have a more intimate connection to April, with them viewing her as a savior]].
* The ''Francise/{{Terminator}}'' fandom has an awful lot of fighting:
** ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' as a sequel to the original film. Mostly over its "lighter" tone compared to the first film which was darker with a lot of horror undertones.
** There's also a split over what the franchise should cover. One group want more exploits with Arnie's T-800 model, while the second group think Arnie is played out, and want to see future John Connor lead the resistance against the machines. The latter group is getting their wish....well they ''WAS'' getting their wish. After the lukewarm reception of ''Salvation'' (and a myriad of legal issues) the direction was up in the air . Then they decided on a reboot.
*** The divide boils down to More/Less time travel, More/less Arnie, More/Less future resistance battles, More/Less Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor. Exemplified by the responses at the bottom of [[http://www.deadline.com/2010/02/exclusive-wishers-take-on-terminator-5-6/ this article]]. The base is essentially shattered into a million pieces.
** This might have caused some resentment towards T2. Some fans felt Cameron just rehashed the first Terminator film, but with better special effects, instead of giving them a movie about the future John Connor.
** There was serious feuding in 2009-10 as to whether the [[AlternateTimeline canonically-incompatible]] ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' or ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' were the legitimate current incarnation of the franchise. The typical division was "''Salvation'' is a dumb action movie but ''The Sarah Connor Chronicles'' is serious, dramatic hard-SF", versus "''Salvation'' is the war movie the franchise has taken too long to deliver on and ''Sarah Connor Chronicles'' is boring and pretentious". Or, once the argument got fierce, "''Salvation'' fans are a bunch of thick lowbrow {{Fanboy}}s who just want to see explosions and are upset because ''SCC'' didn't have enough Summer Glau nudity" versus "''SCC'' fans are a bunch of pretentious Tumblr feminists who only claim to like it because they think it'll give them political cred". There was relatively wide agreement, however, that Salvation wasn't nearly as good as hoped. That's a different can of worms though.
** And then there's the other ContestedSequel, ''Terminator 3''. Did it simply turn the first two movies into a ShaggyDogStory, while turning on its head the main theme of ''Terminator 2'' ([[ScrewDestiny "There is no fate but what we make"]])? Or was it still a good flick in its own right?
** The thought of rehashing the time travel plot for a possible 5th film ([[DevelopmentHell if it's ever made]]) is definitely polarizing among fans.
*** This looks exactly like what the "reboot" is doing for better or for worse.
* When, where and how certain characters got infected in ''Film/TheThing1982''. In fact this could actually be a positive as it's part of the appeal when discussing the film.
** Then there's [[Film/TheThing2011 the prequel]]... which is another can of worms.
* The ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' films. More so the {{Contested Sequel}}s though.
** Everything in all films really is a broken base. From Megatron and Optimus being brothers, is that metaphorical or not and does it make sense with any past canon? Is Dino actually Mirage and Que Wheeljack? With a lot of fans just ignoring [[spoiler: Ironhide's and, sometimes, Jazz's deaths.]] To the ever popular "Is it a bad movie or not?"
** The characters designs of any given ''Transformers'' series is one of the most frequently and viciously argued-over topics. Should they be made of few chunky bits or thousands of shards? Rectangular or sleek? Simple or full of details? Cartoony or realistic? Human-like or more alien? Interestingly, while the robot designs of the first three movies were criticized all over the 'net for looking too alien, the designs for the fourth installment are under fire from the "other side" for looking like humans made of metal.
* There is a huge split among the fans of both ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and ''Film/ReturnToOz.'' There are some fans of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' that believed that the film was a true classic that defined the film industry, while they hated the sequel ''Film/ReturnToOz'' for being too dark and scary for the audience. However, the fans of ''Film/ReturnToOz'' applauded the movie for being much closer in tone to the original books while criticizing ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' for straying too far from the books and also blaming it for making ''Film/ReturnToOz'' so underrated as a film.
* The ''Film/WorldWarZ'' has this because the adaption is ''very'' loosely based on the book.
* ''Film/TheXFilesIWantToBelieve'' is either a great stand alone film, or a boring movie that's a filler episode in movie form. Though most fans generally didn't like it, it still has defenders.
* Honestly ''ALL'' of the ''Film/XMen''-films are argued over. ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' and ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' are for the most part outright hated, First Class is well liked by the critics but is polarizing among the base and general public. Storm as a character is also hotly debated, usually from people who either hate the actress or the character, or hate the character because of the actress. Then there's the debate over whether or not the character's casting was a blatant case of ButNotTooBlack. And then there's the issue of the films being [[WolverinePublicity overly wolverine centric]] to the detriment of other interesting and popular characters. The last 2 issues are HUGE flame starters.
** It doesn't help that people are starting to see Wolverine as a CreatorsPet for FOX.
** As with ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' mentioned below, fans have been divided over whether or not Marvel should take back the X-Men film franchise or let Fox keep the X-Men. Half of the fans said that X-Men should go back to Marvel since they think that Marvel will handle the characters better and let them be more faithful to their comic book counterparts. However, the other half of the fan base think that the X-Men should stay at Fox since they think that having the X-Men in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse would make things even more confusing due to the X-Men having too many characters and also the fact that some fans believe that Marvel would take out the more serious aspects of the X-Men (the persecution of the mutants and Magneto's tragic back story) and turn it into a generic superhero film series.
** ''Film/TheWolverine'':\
Some fans were rolling their eyes at the prospect of another Wolverine film, while others were more optimistic due to its change in director.[[note]]Although the problem [[ExecutiveMeddling doesn't seem to be the director]][[/note]]\
The decision to [[spoiler: bring back Wolverine's bone claws but still have an adamantium body]] has split fans in two.
** ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'':\
The inclusion of Quicksilver, mainly due to ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' director Creator/JossWhedon also including Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. The situation [[http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/06/02/why-joss-whedon-shouldn-t-watch-x-men-days-of-future-past-1466529?lt_source=external,manual#!UkryY has been compared]] to both Creator/SeanConnery and Creator/RogerMoore playing Franchise/JamesBond in DuelingMovies in 1983, with Connery's "non-canon" Bond being compared to this Quicksilver and Moore's "canon" Bond being the analogue to the MCU's version.\
The fact that the film isn't part of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, with the aforementioned Quicksilver issue not helping matters. For many fans, the fact that this movie got excellent reviews makes it debatable whether it would be worth it or not for Marvel to get back the X-Men rights at this point.\
The CosmicRetcon done to ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' and ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' due to the events of this film. To some, is great news because of the lackluster reception those films got, while others who liked those films feel it's dispresctful to the other directors to retcon them out of existence entirely.\
The decision to make Wolverine the main character of the storyline when Kitty Pryde was in the comics. It makes more sense with the movie series's established plotline (Wolverine is sent back via MentalTimeTravel to the 1970's and Kitty hasn't been born yet), but it's still a bitter pill for Kitty fans and people who wanted to see another X-Men movie where Wolverine was NOT the main character. It also goes in reverse; many fans who have stuck with the series since the release of ''X1'' have argued that the film would have had a ''drastically'' reduced emotional impact if we had Kitty instead of Logan, seeing as how little screen time she had in the previous movies, though there was no reason they couldn't have ''both'' gone back. [[spoiler:Although Logan's role in the movie is actually fairly minor in that when in the 1970's as he takes a backseat to Charles, Erik, and Raven.]]\
Kitty Pryde having the new power of [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands sending people back in time]], with [[AssPull no explanation given]]. ''DOFP'' writer [[WordOfGod Simon Kinberg]] stated [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacelacob/x-men-days-of-future-past-questions-simon-kinberg-answers Kitty developed this secondary mutant power]] after ''X3'', as the film's artistic license, but they never explain how it happened.
** AllThereInTheManual: A lot of fans accept that Kitty Pryde's powers are based in quantum theory. Physics professor James Kakalios has attempted to use quantum mechanics to explain Kitty Pryde's "phasing" power. He has described it as an ability to control her own "macroscopic quantum wave function, increasing her tunneling probability to near 100 percent at will. Combined with a post-high school level understanding of multidimensional physics, one could arguably make the assumption that her "tunnels" would apply not only in space, but in time as well. And since it's been established in the movie universes that she can bestow her own power onto any person she physically comes into contact with...
* ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad''. Is the movie feminist or just not-misogynistic? The debate isn't gonna stop anytime soon...
** Whether it is as good as the original trilogy. There are many people who think Fury Road was just an overblown cartoonish flick while others consider it the best movie in the series. The competition is especially tight between Fury Road and Road Warrior.
** The clashing accents have annoyed many people, particularly for Australians who were expecting the Broad Australian accent to pop up more since it was set in the desert. It can be very jarring when compared to the original trilogy where almost everyone was speaking with an Australian accent. The main characters, Max and Furiosa, speak with English and American accents respectively. Yes, ''Max Rockatansky'', the AwesomeAussie does not speak with an Australian accent. Cue the FlameWar.
** Who was the real [[TheHero Hero]] of ''Mad Max: Fury Road''? Was it Max? Furiosa? Or both? Many people consider TheHero to be Furiosa, but Max is a prominent protagonist in the movie as well. The series is called ''Mad Max'', after all. The fact that Furiosa is the one who [[spoiler: kills Immortan Joe at the end of the movie]] rather than Max doesn't help either.[[note]]It is worth noting that the two previous films seems to follow this trend as well: a larger conflict (Raiders vs Refugees/Master-Blaster vs Aunty Entity) with Max caught in the middle.[[/note]]
** The idea of there being a [[DeliberatelyMonochrome black-and-white version]] of the movie. George Miller stated in an interview that it's better if the movie was black-and-white, but the fact that it's pretty much the same movie but without the color and dialogue might have people disagree otherwise. The black-and-white version not being available from the first home release doesn't help things either.
* ''Film/GetOut''. Is the movie a legitimately scary horror story? Or a racist anti-white propaganda who's purpose is to demonize white people as much as possible and spread more fear and distrust between white and dark skinned people by telling the later they should not trust the former?
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* ''Disney/BigHero6'':
** Whether Disney adapting a Marvel property into an animated film is a revolutionary step for the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, or just an example of them forcing the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse into everywhere. For its part Disney has made little mention of ''Big Hero 6'' being a Marvel property (aside from mentioning been "based on the Marvel comic series" in the trailer), and explicitly said it's not part of the MCU.
** The mixed heritage the film shares between White and Japanese -- notably the immigration of the comic's Japan focused setting to the now fictionalized amalgamation "San Fransokyo" and the apparent RaceLift with some of the cast (notably Honey and Wasabi). While some view this as a bold change by Disney to become the first animated film to prominently feature individuals of a mixed heritages, others compare the change unfavorably to ''Film/TheLastAirbender''.
** After the film's release, some people don't like how the only characters to get any CharacterDevelopment are Hiro and Baymax, while others are glad that the movie didn't try to bite off more than it could chew by trying to tell too many stories.
* Audiences are divided over the pacing, the multiple stories, the use of a modern soundtrack in a historical setting, the comedy, and the climax sequence of ''WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife''.
* Because there are eight decades [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney Animated films]], those who like them seem to be split among many things, for better or for worse.
** There are the 'classicists', who only like the films that Creator/WaltDisney himself produced and refuse to watch anything past ''Disney/TheJungleBook'', especially with the severe changes in animation styles, modernisms in themes and dialogue, and "less timeless feel" (despite the next group below declaring otherwise with the latter quoted statement).
** In contrast, some people in another group called the 'modernists', don't like most of the films before the current modern era (both the Disney Renaissance and Pixar), as they believe that (in terms of their themes and their stereotypes; specifically their portrayal of women and animals) a majority of them have not aged very well, whereas the modern Disney/Pixar films (heck, maybe even the live-action reboots) broach more thought-provoking themes and feature wittier dialogue, along with stereotypes that aren't as, if not at all offensive.
** Others ''only'' like the films from the 1990's. Those are the more biased 'Renaissance-era modernists'.
** More recently there has grown a base who like the films up to ''The Jungle Book'' and on from ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', but nothing in between, especially the computer-animated films.
** However, as far as animation quality goes, the consistency of the films can't really be compared: look carefully at some of the very earliest Disney films such as ''{{Dumbo}}'', and you will see [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness animation and continuity errors]].
** The names of the films starting with ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' is a highly controversial topic that is the source of many jokes and much scorn. There has been a trend of undescriptive, one-word titles like ''Gigantic'' and ''Frozen'' compared to older titles which are longer or outright named after the source. Many hate these names and think they sound stupid while others think this trend helps the mass-appeal of the films and believe that the older title trend is too generic and dated for today's standards.
** Franchise/DisneyPrincess films in general. Does Disney produce too many of them or does it even matter if the films are good? There are those who prefer the royalty themed works while others prefer non-princess materials.
** Disney fans who have accepted the [[DisneyAnimatedCanon studio]]'s shift to [[AllCGICartoon computer animation]] and consider the likes of ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', ''Disney/WreckItRalph'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' and so on to be a fresh return to form after the DorkAge of the 2000s vs. Disney fans who feel strongly aliented with the studio shutting down traditional animation production for good and consider all the computer-animated films they've made so far to be not as "truly Disney" as their more iconic hand-drawn animated output at best and an unforgivable betrayal to their animation roots and identity at worst. And then there's [[TakeAThirdOption the third group]] that loves the CGI films but don't want Disney to completely abandon traditional animation. With the new style of "traditional-looking CGI", as most famously seen in the 2012 short ''Disney/{{Paperman}}'', starting to develop there's a new pillar coming into the debate.
** The "same-face" debates that crop up whenever Disney releases a new animated film with a female lead or character. There's a number of arguments with the assumption that Disney's character design team are just getting lazy with their designs and making their female characters look too similar (Rapunzel is often accused of being the start of it and acting as a template for future designs). This supposed lack of diverse facial designs (with some exceptions, most notably [[{{Disney/Moana}} Maui]]) can stem from either creative sterility or an over-reliance on computer animation or sexism or an adherence to a money making formula/aesthetic or whatever. Others disagree with these accusations and feel that they're thrown out far too often as an intellectual nitpick when {{Disney/Moana}} and even [[{{Disney/Zootopia}} Mrs. Otterton]] are accused of "same-face".
** Generally ''any'' mentioning of direct-to-video or undemanded sequels, particularly the Direct to Video ones not officially part of the DisneyAnimatedCanon. Are they cheap soulless trash that taints the reputation of the original films, or are they enjoyable further add on adventures to beloved iconic characters? Some will also contend that only certain ones suck, while others had genuine effort and respect put into them, even if the majority of them were somewhat unnecessary to begin with. This is especially the case for later higher budget Disney sequels such as ''[[{{Bambi}} Bambi 2]]'', ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' and ''Disney/CinderellaIIIATwistInTime''.
* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'':
** Prior to release the film had one of the most broken bases of all the Disney films. Everything was dissected, debated, and moaned about-- the jump from hand-drawn animation to a computer-animated feature, allegations of Disney being "racist", the Snow Queen and Anna being RelatedInTheAdaptation, Elsa being given a case of AdaptationalHeroism, and most infamously the reaction to Anna's and Elsa's leaked stock art (with their character designs looking a little too identical to Rapunzel from Tangled). Half of the fandom expected the movie to be a watered-down Tangled clone that would be dead upon arrival, while others were looking forward to at least a moderately successful, decent film. Once it came out most of the criticism near-instantly vanished and it became a ''huge'' SleeperHit.
** Despite an astronomical amount of media exposure it wasn't long before many people, including fans of the film, became very sick and tired of the interminable hype; this was especially so during the 2014 Christmas period where it became almost unavoidable. Now, the film's fanbase is divided between those that love the movie and believe it deserves every bit of praise and attention it gets, and the fans that think the movie has become far too popular for its own good and exploited to a negative extreme.
** With the increasing amount of [[WhatCouldHaveBeen pre-development and unused concepts]] being discovered the fandom is broken on whether changing Elsa from a villain to a more sympathetic character was a good idea. For most of development Elsa was written as the antagonist until circa mid-to-late 2014 they retooled her character completely. Supporters of "evil!Elsa" think that she could have been a fun villain, miss the lack of a "proper" antagonist (and VillainSong), believe the relationship between [[CainAndAbel her and Anna]] could have developed in just as good (if not a better) way, and see the movie as having plot holes because it was done too quickly. Supporters of the current Elsa think the story wouldn't be nearly as popular or as good if Elsa was Anna's disgruntled sister and [[spoiler:think Hans being a subtle villain was a much better twist]].
** Elsa's sexuality has created a split in the fandom between those who consider her story a [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything thin metaphor]] for being [[AmbiguouslyGay lesbian]] or {{asexual}}, those who think the others are looking too much into nothing, and those who just don't care about Elsa's romance life.
** The OfficialCouple of Kristoff and Anna has caused this, even ignoring ShipToShipCombat. There are the majority who support it while the minority thinks they work better as platonic and/or think there wasn't any actual buildup to them.
* ''WesternAnimation/AGoofyMovie'' has one between ''WesternAnimation/GoofTroop'' fans and non-''Troop'' fans, and one between people who like ''WesternAnimation/AnExtremelyGoofyMovie'' and those who don't. The first two groups tend to go hand-in-hand, as do the second groups. The biggest consensus is that ''An Extremely Goofy Movie'' is not a very good stand-alone sequel, but is a great culminating [[TheMovie film of the series]].
* Some praise ''WesternAnimation/{{Home}}'' for having a black protagonist and ''not'' have her race be central to the story, others feel that the ''lack'' of focus on it is annoying.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kubo and the Two Strings}}'' gets praised by almost the entire consensus for its story respecting traditional Japanese storytelling and ancient Japanese culture extremely well (as well as being highly creative), yet it gets flak as well by some others for supposedly being too generic, predictable and/or convoluted. However, no matter what side of the fence you'd be on, there's no denying that the animation is just ''absolutely gorgeous''!
* ''Disney/TheLionKing'':
** The sequels. To some, they are extremely impressive and some of the few good Disney sequels made. To others, they are a complete mess with various retcons and errors.
** There has become an issue between Kion fans and Kopa fans (basically ''The Lion Guard'' vs Most-Other-Media). Kopa was the son of Simba in the ''Six New Adventures'' series of licensed books. The direct-to-video sequel ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' made Kopa non-canon however the fandom avoided a "Kiara vs Kopa" war by [[EpilepticTrees working around]] Kiara, and insisting that Kiara is secretly Simba's and Nala's second child after Kopa was killed. Kion from ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' is considerably harder to mix into the previous {{fanon}} though. The series is a sort of midquel in-between the cub portion of ''Simba's Pride'' and the adult portion, with many a {{retcon}} sprinkled in (such as Kiara even [[RememberTheNewGuy having]] a younger brother). Thus Kopa fans are particularly bitter about Kion and view him as an unneeded SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute. Many Kion fans on the other hand note Kopa is considered only [[CanonDiscontinuity semi-canon]], that [=TLG=] can easily be in an AlternateUniverse, and enjoy Kion as a character. The two cubs look near-identical and are vastly similar which only adds to the issue.
* ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}}'':
** Does it taking so many creative liberties with the true story it's based on make it a bad movie, or a fine, if slightly flawed, one that can still be enjoyed despite said creative liberties? The divisiveness over whether ''Pocahontas'' was a mistake or not rages on even now, even on ThisVeryWiki.
** This extends to its SignatureSong, "Colors of the Wind", as well. Is it [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic one of the best and most memorable songs ever to grace a Disney movie]]? Or is it overrated and/or too {{Anvilicious}} for its own good?
* Creator/{{Pixar}}:
** There's a divide on whether or not Pixar has managed to get out of their Dork Age yet; some people think that they have due to the universal acclaim of ''Inside Out'' and very positive reception of ''Finding Dory'', but others feel that they still have some ways to go, with ''The Good Dinosaur'' widely being considered SoOkayItsAverage and ''Finding Dory'' still being seen as slightly below Pixar standards.
** ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' vs ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2''. While the first one was an instant classic, the sequel is often thought of as being an EvenBetterSequel which has led to much dispute between fans of the first.
** Is ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars 2}}'' a shining example of {{sequelitis}}, or is it just as good as the original (however good you thought the original was)?
** Then came ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'': another step downhill following ''Cars 2'', just as good as the non-Cars movies, SoOkayItsAverage (particularly because of HypeBacklash), too much of a ClicheStorm... also, add the Oscar win over ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' and discussions can get heated.
** It happened again with ''WesternAnimation/MonstersUniversity''. It was better received than the previous two films, especially Cars 2, but that hasn't stopped many Pixar fans from giving negative reviews of it.
** ''WesternAnimation/TheGoodDinosaur'' [[ToughActToFollow quickly became the]] ''Pocahontas'' to ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'''s ''The Lion King''. Is it a respectable and [[TearJerker heart-string tugging]] addition to Pixar's line-up? Is it an immense disappointment after the smash hit that was ''Inside Out''? Or is it still an decently enjoyable movie even with it coming off the heels of ''Inside Out''? Additionally, did the TroubledProduction do it any good, or did it result in some messy story-telling in the long-term?
** Although most people agreed that ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' was a great movie, it is at the same time, debated whether it meets Pixar's traditional quality standards (like its predecessor) or not.
* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooFrankencreepy'': Daphne's "[[FatGirl curse]]" and the resolution. Some people view it as sending the message to young girls that you're only valuable if you're thin and pretty enough for a guy to like you; others see it as Daphne being superficial and ultimately learning that she doesn't ''have'' to have a Barbie-like appearance, thanks in part to [[ImpliedLoveInterest Fred's]] supportiveness.
* Tobias Lelle as the new German voice of Squidward in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater''. Some think he has a lot of potential and competently succeeds the late Eberhard Prüter, and are willing to give him a chance. Others think he's too unrefined and inconsistent in his voice, sometimes sounding like Rodger Bumpass' interpretation, other times sounding closer to his own voice. In the latter side's defence though, Prüter had a very distinctive and very natural-speaking voice, and that was what he used for the show's German dub; therefore it was always going to make him a ToughActtoFollow anyway.
* ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'':
** The biggest base breaker is without a doubt... the name. It was originally named "Rapunzel Unbraided" before they retooled it to being more like a standard Disney film and it became "Rapunzel". Several months prior to release came the news it was officially renamed ''Tangled'' and the then-budding fandom was sent into a fury. Many Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon fans consider it a FranchiseOriginalSin that made way to an "oh-so-horrid" trend of one word titles like ''Disney/{{Moana}}'', ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' (which is pretty ironic considering how most of the older Disney movies had this tactic as well) and that only exists because [[GirlShowGhetto "Rapunzel" was deemed too feminine]]. Others don't care and think the name simply flows fine as it is.
** The topic of Mother Gothel and just how sympathetic she is. She reaches DracoInLeatherPants levels more easily than any other Disney antagonist to date. Many fans have trouble seeing how someone can raise a child and not feel at least a ''little'' maternal affection for her while others think she was simply a completely abusive mother who didn't view Rapunzel as anything more than an object.
* In Brazil, the 1997 reissue of ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' had [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV_qnRq404Q "Part of Your World"]] changed into [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shQSv9y8LwM a new version with another singer and slightly different lyrics.]] Either song will always ignite an argument on which is better, with TheyChangedItNowItSucks and NostalgiaFilter frequently being brought up.
* Some fans have taken issue with how ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}'s origin was handled in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBadBlood'', being changed from Kate fending off a mugger and Batman arriving only to realize that she'd taken care of the mugger to Batman saving her from AttemptedRape by four goons. The three main issues are many seeing her inability to fight them off and not be in top shape as a weakening of the character and even making her a DamselInDistress, Kate rudely brushing off Batman's hand when he offers to help her up (as opposed to being awestruck and accepting the help) as casting a negative light on Kate, and her taking up being Batwoman out of resentment for needing to be rescued as cliche, (though SocietyMarchesOn meant that her original origin of deciding to be Batwoman as an alternative to helping out after her was forced out by "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy was outdated now that it's been repelled).
* Is Film/SpaceJam one of the coolest sports movies to come out of the [[TheNineties 90s]] or old garbage?
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* Is Film/AngryVideoGameNerdTheMovie a great B-movie experience or James Rolfe's weakest/worst work?
* A general issue with film fans is the topic of "colorizing" older works. Some love seeing movies, and occasionally TV series, in color while others feel it ruins the films and they should stay b&w.
* {{Horror}} fans seems to be split over the quality of audacious foreign horror films when compared to American horror films. They're either refreshing and daring, or gory pretentious crap.
** Also among horror fans there's a sub-debate on what should be considered a ''Horror'' film as oppose to a ''Thriller'' and vice versa. Some feel that ''Thrillers'' are neutered horror films made for people who can't hack "''Real''" horror.
** Another divide is over the style and approach of making horror Films/Books, etc... Some prefer the subtlety of NothingIsScarier, MaybeMagicMaybeMundane, and DoingInTheWizard approach (Exemplified by the people who thought ''Film/TheDescent'' was good "Until the crawlers showed up"), Some preferring the ThroughTheEyesOfMadness approach, some prefer the {{Gorn}} approach. Or perhaps some prefer the AttackOfTheKillerWhatever and or AttackOfThe50FootWhatever. Some even take the diplomatic approach and prefer all of the above.
** And within the film medium there's the whole debate over when is dark, bleak, and depressing, ''too dark, bleak and depressing?'' And the use of the DownerEnding... Some are of the opinion that people are CompletelyMissingThePoint and that horror is ''SUPPOSED'' to be dark, bleak, and depressing. Others take the view that using such a limiting definition and emotional palate only serves to make everything ultimately seem exactly the same.
*** NecessaryWeasel, and AnthropicPrinciple plays a HUGE part in these debates.
** Speaking of dark tones, A common problem in horror movies tends to be the fact some fans see the genre as nothing but DarknessInducedAudienceApathy. For example: The cast of potential victims is presented as a bunch of [[{{Jerkass}} obnoxious jerks]], and/or [[TooDumbToLive complete idiots,]] to the point where it's hard to feel bad for them when they finally start dying. [[RootingForTheEmpire Although for many that's part of the appeal]]. On the other hand, if the horror movie has a sympathetic family as a victim it could have another negative effect ranging from ShootTheDog to MoralEventHorizon (as far as the writers, creators etc...unfairly or not) to CrossesTheLineTwice. Which could also turn off certain groups of horror fans as well, [[AcceptableTargets which possibly explain the constant obnoxious jerk characters as a substitute]], and villains constantly being prone to being DracoInLeatherPants. Horror films (especially mainstream American horror films) likes to be broadly appealing. You can't have a popular horror film where [[{{Expy}} expies]] of TheWaltons and [[TheCosbyShow The Cosbys]] are brutally murdered by the Psycho/Demon/Werewolf/Vampire/Alien. Of course, while it might be ''too'' horrifying to subject, say, a charming, wholesome, likeable family to the events of a horror film, making potential victims unlikable and [[RootingForTheEmpire rooting for the monster]] are both ComicallyMissingThePoint of horror. Why should you be scared of something you're actually hoping to happen? This is sort of a inherent divisiveness within the genre. Horror fans want to be scared, but doesn't want it to come by way of hurting innocent likeable characters. Which is terribly ironic considering certain horror fans complain about the genre ''lacking'' likeable characters.
** The disagreements over bleak and dark tone seems to be mostly a matter of personal taste than anything.
*** Same with having ''[[RealAfterAll actual]]'' ghosts/demons/aliens etc..in the film. Some people think that's what makes a real horror film while others think it's a cheap gimmick.
** And whether or not to [[SlidingScaleOfComedyAndHorror use humor and comedy]]. Does it add to the movie, and mood or destroys it?
** For the Literature medium there are those who prefer the short and simple stories to the 900 page {{Doorstop|per}}s. Mostly because they think Horror stories are much more effective as short stories, as bigger books tends to drag.
** There's also a debate over perceived attitudes towards the genre. For instance on message boards there will be a fan who'll be like [[SincerityMode "Yaaay they're making Terror On Cliched Street part 20!"]], and another disgruntled one who'll be like "*ugh* Hollywood has run out of ideas". The latter thinking the former is everything that is wrong with horror today. While the former think that the latter group are a bunch of pretentious {{Jerkass}}es who think foreign horror is the best thing since indoor plumbing, and is taking the genre [[SeriousBusiness too seriously]]. While the latter fires back by saying they're the ones that are giving horror fans a "bad name" (and by extension the whole genre).
** Even then people argue that if it doesn't have any supernatural/fantasy/sci-fi elements it's not a real horror film. Some think adding too much sci-fi and technobable ruins the genre, likely a microcosm of the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane approach where they use science or sci-fi to explain away the paranormal/supernatural (which some see as a cop out). Same thing can be said for adding in action (See James Cameron's ''Aliens'' below)
** In addition to the above is it a bad idea to try and explain everything in a horror story/plot. Or is it best to leave it mysterious and vague?, Or is that a WriterCopOut?
** Anytime a MaybeMagicMaybeMundane horror movie turns out to be RealAfterAll. Case in point ''Film/TheLastExorcism''.
** There's also accusations of people RunningTheAsylum for the worse, By keeping all of the arguably negative stuff around because they think it's the norm for the genre. Creating a horror version of SciFiGhetto.
** FoundFootage horror is very polarizing among horror fans. ''Regardless'' of how well made they might be.
** It doesn't help that the horror genre is subjective (and polarizing) to begin with.
* Speaking of horror films, there seems to be a divide on how to make zombie films, and what makes a good zombie film as oppose to a generic zombie film. Should they be humorous zombie killing action pieces? Or dramatic, thought provoking, Socio-Political commentary and or deep character studies?
** As mentioned in the ''28 Days Later'' example, what does or does not constitute a proper cinema Zombie is up for big debate. Can Zombies be fast or does that fly in the face of what a Zombie should be? Are they mindless walking corpses with no goal other than to eat the living, or should they have a deeper level that allows them to form basic plans and organize? Are they caused by magic? toxic waste? a virus? Numerous fans will insist that changing a single element destroys the Zombie title.
* Question: Are ''Film/TwentyEightDaysLater'' and its sequel movies zombie movies? It may seem like a simple yes-or-no question, but there are places on the Internet where you will be lynched if you get the answer wrong.
* The ''{{Franchise/Alien}}'' franchise, in all its forms:
** Although most fans seem to generally agree that the first two films, ''{{Film/Alien}}'' and ''{{Film/Aliens}}'', are of higher quality than anything that came after it, there are arguments over which film is ''better''. Some prefer the cerebral horror, mounting tension and AnyoneCanDie mentality of the first film (and hate what Creator/JamesCameron did to the franchise afterwards), while others prefer the militaristic non-stop action and Ripley's CharacterDevelopment of the second.
** ''Film/{{Alien 3}}'' splintered the fanbase into [[{{Hatedom}} pieces]] over its continuation of the story from the previous film, leaving fans in different camps:
*** Were Hicks' and Newt's death justified because they wouldn't have contributed much to the action on Fury 161, or was it cruel, pointless, nihilistic and nonsensical due to the chain of events that caused it?
*** Was the return to the "one alien in a confined space" plot good for the series and Ripley's character development, or was it just rehashing the first film?
** The ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'' spinoffs fueled many debates and arguments between fans who either hate one or both of the films:
*** Fans of the [[Film/AVPAlienVsPredator first film]] either enjoy it because it finally brings two of the galaxy's biggest enemies face-to-face, or hate it because it squanders the source material and reduces several of the fights to a glorified wrestling match between the two species.
*** Fans of the [[Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem second]] either enjoy it because it has an EnsembleDarkhorse Predator in the form of Wolf and some proper Alien/Predator battles, or hate it because it once again squanders its potential, making it both part-soap opera and a ShaggyDogStory.
** ''{{Film/Prometheus}}'' didn't make things any better, with fan wars springing up in the wake of its release:
*** Is the film a part of the ''Alien'' franchise, a separate story in the same universe, or a completely standalone film? It doesn't help that Creator/RidleyScott has [[FlipFlopOfGod flip-flopped on this]].
*** Is the reveal about the "Space Jockey"/Engineer's true purpose and impact on Earth's development a big step forward for the franchise, or is it a poorly-written, nonsensical excuse to explain a story element that should have remained mysterious?
*** Are the characters reacting realistically to the threat given their observer backgrounds, or are they carbon copies of the characters from ''Alien'' who really should conduct themselves in a scientific manner?
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'': Were [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Nolan's films]] dark, realistic, and thoughtful or just too pretentious and serious? Was ''Film/BatmanForever'' (since ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' is universally hated) entertaining, campy, and respectful to the comics or a long toy commercial with lots of {{Narm}}? Were Tim Burton's films deep, beautiful, well acted, and respectful to the material, or too dark, disrespectful, and violent? Was ''Film/BatmanTheMovie'' [[GuiltyPleasure entertaining]] and [[LargeHam hammy]], or [[{{Narm}} corny]]?
** Best Joker: Creator/HeathLedger, Creator/JackNicholson, or Creator/MarkHamill? Or maybe [[EnsembleDarkHorse Cesar Romero]]?
** Related to Nolan's movies, is ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' an underwhelming finale or just as good as its [[Film/TheDarkKnight predecessor]]([[Film/BatmanBegins s]])? Or is it weaker, but still a satisfying conclusion?
* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', the sequel to ''Man of Steel'', got this before it even started filming:
** Should the film have been a solo Superman sequel from the get-go, or is adding Bruce Wayne/Batman good for the box office? More importantly, is this an actual Superman movie or a "Batman featuring Superman" movie in disguise?
** Creator/BenAffleck chosen as the new Batman for the sequel: there are those who are doubtful about him most especially the fans who still prefer Creator/ChristianBale to reprise the role and those who believe that he can pull off it as Batman.
** The casting of Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman: a great move to finally depict an under-represented female superhero in film, or stunt casting that will be marginalized and near non-existent in the final film? Likewise, does Gadot have the acting experience and/or physique necessary to take on a major female superhero?
* In ''Film/BladeRunner'', is Deckard a replicant, or is that a ridiculous idea that would defeat the entire point of the film?
* ''Film/BladeTrinity'' created an upheaval among fans; some felt the Nightstalkers overshadowed Blade (especially Hannibal King), while others felt the Nightstalkers were the best thing about the movie.
* ''Film/TheBridgesOfMadisonCounty'' is generally well liked. But the fans can't agree on whether or not it's a touching love story, or sentimental nonsense that rationalizes moral failure.
* Fans of ''Film/TheCampaign'' seems to be split on who or what the movie was spoofing. Some believe it was spoofing how over the top political campaigns have gotten. More cynical fans believe their spoofing the naive easily fooled voters.
* The 2013 remake of ''Film/{{Carrie}}'' seems to be seen as either a pointless remake that completely missed the point or a movie that is much better than the 1976 original for being less campy and following the book a little more.
* When it comes to the ''Film/CarryOn'' film series, the fans and the media cannot decide on what is the best and the worst film of the series.
** The best films are often widdled between ''Film/CarryOnCamping'', ''Film/CarryOnCleo'' and ''Film/CarryOnUpTheKhyber''. All three films did successfully domestically -- the first film having the biggest box office smasher of the entire series -- but they were mostly remembered in different ways: the first for Creator/BarbaraWindsor's WardrobeMalfunction, the second for the AffectionateParody and a one-liner from Creator/KennethWilliams, and the third for mostly the final scene. The public are undecided over ''Camping'' and ''Cleo'' because of these reasons, but the media have claimed that ''Khyber'' is the best; the British Film Institute even named it one of the best British films of all time.
** For the worst, everyone can't choose out of ''Film/CarryOnBehind'', ''Film/CarryOnEngland'' and ''Film/CarryOnEmmannuelle''. For many, they're all equally as bad because fan favourite Creator/SidJames wasn't in it and the original writing team had changed. Others say that ''Behind'' wasn't as awful because it had the same "feel" of other films, but the other two had completely changed the "feel" because the new humour focused specifically on sexual innuendo and nudity, which had led people to believe that the ''Carry On''s were trying to compete with the popular ''Film/ConfessionsOfA'' series. Regardless, ''England'' is often called the worst because the regular actors that the fans loved were pushed aside for younger, attractive people (some of them ''actually being'' fashion models, as well as actors), leading them to be resorted to cameos.
* ''Film/{{Cinderella 2015}}'':
** Some fans are annoyed by it being a live-action remake of [[Disney/{{Cinderella}} the classic film]], claiming it's unoriginal and Disney should have adapted the darker Grimm Brothers version. Others are relieved that it's faithful to the classic film, and not a DarkerAndEdgier remake like ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' or ''Film/{{Maleficent}}'' that takes extensive liberties with the plot.
** The appearance of Nonso Anozie as the Captain, a black aristocrat in a European monarchy era setting, caused a firestorm of "historical accuracy" vs. "fantasy kingdom". Not unlike [[Film/{{Thor}} Branagh's]] [[Film/MuchAdoAboutNothing previous movies]]... Of course black aristocrats while rare were not unknown in history and the film's AnachronismStew more than justifies it.
* When it comes to the horror film called ''Film/TheDescent'' there are a lot of AlternateCharacterInterpretation debates concerning Juno and Sarah that have splintered the fandom, and caused a lot of InternetBackdraft...
** Some see Sarah as a [[BreakTheCutie broken sympathetic woman]] who was pushed over the edge by Juno's idiocy and incompetence. She found out about Juno's affair with her husband, and the cover up of the injury to Beth. Others see her as a psycho bitch who unfairly condemned Juno to death by intentionally wounding her leg over a genuine mistake she made.
** Some see Juno as a good (but flawed) friend who was just trying to make the group of friends close again by taking them caving. And acted heroically when they were being attacked by the mutants (for the most part). While others see her as a incompetent home wrecking jackass who got everyone killed.
** Then there's the third group who see both of them as sympathetic flawed characters.
** Group 4 sees them both as unredeemable jackasses who deserved everything they got... But felt sorry for everyone else who was dragged down with them.
*** The surprisingly good sequel gleefully plays with this. Adding more fuel to the fire.
** As mentioned below there's also debates over whether ''The Crawlers'' adds to the film or ruins it.
** There are also some very nasty debates over whether the crawlers really exist or they're just a figment of Sarah's imagination created to help her deal with the fact that ''she'' was the one who killed the other women. Depending on who you ask, there's either absolutely no evidence at all that Sarah murdered all of her friends, or the film hammers your head with so much proof that you must be blind, dead and stupid to try to deny it. There is NO middle ground on this, and the fact that the sequel clearly goes with the interpretation that the crawlers are real has [[FanonDiscontinuity no bearing]] on most arguments.
* George A Romero's ''Film/DiaryOfTheDead'' is either a sign of his further decline, or his rebound.
* ''Film/{{Divergent}}'':
** The announcement that Uriah will be cut from ''Divergent'' and saved for the sequel, ''The Divergent Series: Insurgent''. Some believe that Uriah's purpose in the first book wasn't that important, while others that love the character still call heresy on it.
** Creator/ShaileneWoodley as Tris. A lot of book fans felt she was all wrong for the role, and many reviewers described her performance as "disaffected" - plenty comparing her unfavourably to Creator/KristenStewart in the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' films. Others however, particularly around the time ''The Divergent Series: Insurgent'' was released, praised her as one of the best parts of the franchise - and she enjoyed the same level of hype that Creator/JenniferLawrence got from ''Film/TheHungerGames''.
** In ''Divergent'', there's Tris getting the flag instead of Christina like in the books. Those who argue against the change say that Christina needed her CrowningMomentOfAwesome after being abused by Eric. Others say that it has much more meaning if Tris is the one who gets it, visually showing that she has finally earned her spot (as Christina had never been in danger of being cut).
* ''Film/EscapeFromLA''. Some consider it to be complete garbage, some say it's just as good as ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', and some even say that it's actually '''''better''''' (rumor has it that last camp includes Creator/JohnCarpenter himself).
* The fact that ''Film/TheExpendables3'' [[http://collider.com/the-expendables-3-rating/ was rated PG-13]] in contrast to the R ratings of the first two movies. Also, when a PG-13 rating was announced for the second movie, many fans were upset. Let's not forget that [[http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/the-expendables-3-leaks-online-3-weeks-ahead-of-release-20140725 the third movie was also leaked online]] before it could be released in theaters, and that the movie made #4 at the box office compared to the box office success of the first two movies.
* The fans of the ''Franchise/FinalDestination'' debate whether ''[[Film/FinalDestination3]]'' or ''[[Film/TheFinalDestination]]'' is the worse film, and people disagree on whether ''[[Film/FinalDestination5]]'' is a return to form for the series, or just as bad as the previous two films in the series.
* ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' has the same issues especially with the polarizing ''[[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIITheNewBlood The New Blood]]'' and ''[[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIIIJasonTakesManhattan Jason Takes Manhattan]]''.
* Amid all the kerfuffle about ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'', with many fans claiming on the bases of its premise, or its casting, or its trailers, that it was for whatever reason a horrible betrayal of the [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 original]], or that it could at any rate never match up to the original, it was inevitable that somebody would come along and argue that [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/06/08/can-we-stop-pretending-the-original-ghostbusters-is-a-masterpiec/ the original wasn't all that good in the first place]].
* The Franchise/{{Godzilla}} fandom. Particularly when it comes to the [[Film/{{Godzilla 1998}} American remake]].
** Another example would be the recent Millennium-era films that were released from 1999-2004.
** ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars''. Is Godzilla strong, or ridiculously unbeatable?
** [[Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah Destoroyah's]]. Fans can't agree on whether it should be a male (which he is in the canon of the games), a female (due to many fan observations regarding his...erm...biology), or both/neither (again, due to numerous fan observations). Doesn't help the only film it was in mostly just used gender neutral pronouns or masculine terms without gender being a definite.
** ''Film/KingKongVsGodzilla''. In general, fans are divided over who should've won even though [[WordOfGod Toho Studios]] has stated that Kong technically won. The ambiguous ending doesn't help matters.
** Which ''era'' of Godzilla films is also hotly debated. Were the Showa (1955-1975) films fun yet cheesy films or low-budget over-the-top messes? Was the Heisei (1984-1995) era a good throwback to Godzilla's darker roots or were they nothing but wangst and boring "beam war" fights? And, then there's the aforementioned Millennium era. Good luck getting the fans to agree on any one era.
** Even the monsters that go up against Godzilla fall under this. On the one hand, you got fans who want to see Godzilla go up against more original monsters. On the other, you got fans who want Godzilla to fight more classic monsters like Ghidorah or Mothra. They rarely, if ever, agree with one another on any level.
* ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}'':
** When [[http://www.godzillaisland.com/2013/09/the-2014-godzilla-has-been-leaked.html this leak]] of Godzilla himself was posted online, fans were split. Many believe he looks like he should and that he retains most of his most notable features. On the other hand many don't like the more "human like" eyes of the design, his small teeth, the sauropod-esque feet, and the gills on the side of his neck. Then there's the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0T3VwHzk8n mightily revamped]] sound of his [[HellIsThatNoise roar]]....
*** Thankfully, the new G's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKKvgg-L6g full-length roar from the actual movie]] seems to have struck a better balance between the old and the new.
** When word came that Creator/{{Toho}} had seen the full film several weeks before release and thought it was great, fans were split on whether that praise amounted to anything. Some fans thought that it was proof that the film would be great if the original makers of ''Godzilla'' thought it was so, while others pointed out that Toho have also put their seal of approval on lesser ''Godzilla'' films like ''Film/AllMonstersAttack'' and (initially, at least) ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}''.
** Viewers tend to be split between the camps of "strong entry in the Godzilla series that carries the spirit of [[Film/{{Gojira}} the 1954 original]]" and "weak due to boring human leads and too little Godzilla," with a middle grouping of "good overall, but could have used more Godzilla presence." This spread ''even to professional movie critics.''
** Godzilla's relatively heroic portrayal in this film. His original role as [[GaiasVengeance nature's wrath summoned by humankind's folly]] (the atomic bomb) is downplayed, as the Mutos take that role (awakened by the activities of a mining company) and he arises as their Alpha Predator, nature's way of restoring order and balance. Those against it dislike how the film claimed to be closer to the spirit of ''{{Film/Gojira}}'' by making him more of an antagonist, to the point of [[NeverTrustATrailer editing several trailers]] to make it seem as though Godzilla was the only threat ([[SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer while the Mutos remained absent for a while]]). Those in favor of it claim Godzilla is still a gray-tinted DestructiveSavior and think it's a good way to keep audience sympathy with him while he fights other monsters, so it doesn't turn into [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy an uncheerable]] EvilVersusEvil.
** There are some that complain that the film is nowhere near as dark and grim as the trailers made it out to be.
** The short amount of screen time Godzilla got compared to the human characters. Those who didn't mind it point out that the amount of screen time Godzilla had in the Showa Era films were relatively similar to this film. Those who did mind are divided between whether Godzilla became a secondary character in his own movie, or felt his on-screen presence was sufficient but could have been balanced out by making the human characters more interesting.
** The way the movie keeps teasing the audience by cutting away from the monster battles to the humans. The teasing either makes the climax all the sweeter or sours the whole experience. Many believe the impact of Godzilla's first full-frontal appearance in Hawaii, about to fight one of the Mutos, was weakened by cutting away to Ford's family watching snippets of the fight on the news after it happened. The climactic San Francisco battle is directly shown but still heavily intercut with the humans, especially the soldiers. In contrast, the Japanese movies tend to have longer battles with less interruptions.
** The smaller focus Godzilla got compared to the Mutos. This might be understandable for a sequel where Godzilla is already established, but not for his origin story. The Mutos drive the plot much more than Godzilla does, despite what the trailers would have one believe -- [[spoiler:they're the real "antagonists"; it's them who Bryan Cranston's character is freaking out over. He doesn't even know about Godzilla.]]
** The design of the Mutos. Some think they're too bland with their drab black/grey color, especially since Godzilla is the same color and they fight several times at night. Other like them for how utterly different they look from any previous Kaiju, looking nothing like a man in a suit.
** Although there's really no argument in the hard-core part of the fanbase, some of the more "flexible" fans and general monster movie lovers are divided on whether this movie is better or worse than the 1998 film. Frequently argued-over topics include which one's more fun, has more memorable characters, what their actors are given and how well they pull it off, gives more screen-time for the titular creature, and which depiction of Godzilla is more serviceable to modern, non-fan audiences.
* The ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' series. Some prefer the films with Jamie Lloyd to the ContinuityReboot ''[[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater H20]]'', and Rob Zombie's [[Film/{{Halloween 2007}} films]] are nearly as divisive.
** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', a right direction for the series, or a mistake?
* Then there's ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}''... oh dear God. You got the Original fans, the Zeist people, the TV series fans, the multiple continuity fans, the "strong immortals" fans and their "weak immortals" nemeses, those who cherry pick, those who actually liked The Source, and those that come up with their own unique views. And guess what, that doesn't cover HALF of the categories these fans are grouped into... AND they all hate each other with such a passion it makes Sunnis and Shia look like first graders fighting in a schoolyard.
* Fans of ''Film/HoneyIShrunkTheKids'' either hate the [[Series/HoneyIShrunkTheKids TV series]] for [[{{Retcon}} retconning]] the movies and [[{{Flanderization}} changing the characters]], or love it for the extra adventures and the addition of the TimeMachine. Sometimes there will be middle ground, but whichever {{Continuity}} is preferred depends on who you ask.
* ''Film/IndependenceDayResurgence'': Will Smith not being in the movie. Some feel the movie can work fine without him but others feel him not being in it is a major detriment, to the point where some have refused to watch the film because of it.
* ''Franchise/IndianaJones'': Which one is better, ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' or ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''? Also, are ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' and/or ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'' [[ContestedSequel worth something or not]]?
* ''Film/IntoTheWoods''
** Rapunzel's fate is averted in the movie. According to Sondheim, he tried to get Rapunzel to die in the film like she did in the play. However, most likely due to the more family-oriented audience, they decided they wanted Rapunzel to live. Some are ok with the change and like her getting a [[EarnYourHappyEnding happy ending with her prince,]] but some argue that Rapunzel's death was very significant for the Witch's arc. Check [[http://www.playbill.com/news/article/sondheim-reveals-plot-changes-for-disney-into-the-woods-film-322631 here]] for the article. A counter point to this says that Rapunzel's death makes more sense in the show - where she's left to fend for herself while pregnant in the desert. In the movie, she's found the next day and so there's less time for her to go mad.
** The removal of a few songs. One song, "No More", is given an instrumental version and [[spoiler:The Baker running away doesn't last for very long. While others argue that it helps the pacing, others retort that it also removes any growth for the Baker. During the song in the stage show, he realizes that by running away, he'd be turning into his father. The film, on the other hand, makes it look like he just needed a moment alone to mourn his wife's death.]] WordOfGod says they wanted to include the song, but it wouldn't make sense with the Mysterious Man's role in act one being removed. To compensate for it, they built on the Baker's fear of turning into his father earlier. It's been debated whether or not it was enough.
** The shortening of the 2nd act overall. They cut a lot compared to the first act. It either still contains what made the message of the original or it lessens it.
* The ''Film/IronMan'' sequels. Are they (like the X-Men example below) a new kind of WolverinePublicity? Is ''Film/IronMan2'' acceptable because Creator/RobertDowneyJr delivers as usual but just damn frustrating? Is ''Film/IronMan3'' a good follow-up to ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' with a legitimately clever and surprising plot twist or a disrespectful movie that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wastes a completely good villain]]? The debate won't cease.
* Among the works of Creator/QuentinTarantino, the film ''Film/JackieBrown'' is a base breaker, with fans generally placing it either at the top or bottom of Tarantino's oevre. As Tarantino's only straight adaptation (of the Creator/ElmoreLeonard novel ''Literature/RumPunch''), it stands as a departure from Tarantino's standard style, so people who like Leonard's style more than Tarantino's style will generally favor it over his other works.
* While Creator/SeanConnery's role as ''Film/JamesBond'' is almost unanimously loved, any other actor playing Bond after him has been either loved or hated by the fans.
** There's two types of James Bond fans: Those who like the more dark, emotional, serious Bonds (and therefore generally prefer Dalton or Craig's roles), and those who like the more camp, joking, lighthearted Bonds (and therefore generally prefer Moore or Brosnan's roles). Ironically, Craig himself has indicated that as a viewer, he prefers the more joking and lighthearted tone... but that the series had to abandon it for fear of being too similar to Austin Powers.
** ''Film/LicenceToKill'' is probably the biggest Broken Base over a single film. Generally a consensus on a film will form within a few years of its release (though there will always be those who disagree). ''Licence to Kill'' is almost always at the top or bottom of movie rankings.
** Honorable mention to ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. Most fans agree the movie itself is good (some rating it among the franchise's best), but George Lazenby's Bond incites no end of arguments.
** ''Film/{{Spectre}}''. The argument was over whether or not SPECTRE should be brought back at all for the 2015 film. More specifically, should they be like in the old films, or should they be revamped into a DarkerAndEdgier set of villains? Also, the theme song, "Writing's on the Wall" by Music/SamSmith, has split opinions [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34357110 ''very widely'']].
* ''Film/LawAbidingCitizen'', the contention comes from arguments on whether the two leads are "good" or "bad" , or whether or not Clyde "won" and proved his point or "lost". people are projecting their own ideology, morality and political beliefs into the film. Much like...
* ''Film/LittleShopOfHorrors'' fans constantly debate over whether the FocusGroupEnding or the original ending is superior.
* ''Film/ManOfSteel'' divided Franchise/{{Superman}} fans:
** Is the film a worthwhile ContinuityReboot that got rid of the baggage from previous films, or are Creator/RichardDonner [=/=] Creator/ChristopherReeve [[FirstInstallmentWins the only ones]] [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight who did it right]]?
** Is Hans Zimmer's score great for the franchise and a fresh new spin, or is it rehashed material that does nothing to honor John Williams' famous compositions?
** Is the film a proper DarkerAndEdgier retelling of the Superman origin that was a long time coming, or is it a weak substitute for the LighterAndSofter Reeve films?
** Pa Kent: a concerned father who was only trying to protect his son, or a borderline {{Jerkass}} who expressed doubts whether Clark should even use his powers at all, let alone for [[ComesGreatResponsibility good]]?
** Should Clark have had more training before his first adventure or not, and why isn't he closer to the [[IdealHero ideal, infallible]], [[IncorruptiblePurePureness impeccable]], and [[InvincibleHero invincible hero]] people expected?
** Did Clark do enough trying to take Zod out of Metropolis in the final fight, or did he [[DesignatedHero not try hard enough]] to stem the level of carnage being done to Smallville and Metropolis?
** Was Clark justified in [[spoiler:killing Zod]]? Or, for other comic fans, the fact that someone involved in this film thought Superman [[spoiler: ''should'' kill.]] Notably, he also [[spoiler: kills Zod in the comics, and in the theatrical version of ''Superman II'']]. Like in the comics and ''unlike'' ''Superman II'' he shows remorse. The degree of remorse and reasons for it are also disputed, though Snyder has hinted that it may have implications in films to come, as it did in the comics.
** Lois [[spoiler:knowing Clark's secret even before he becomes Superman, removing the traditional TwoPersonLoveTriangle]]. Though this happened before in the last season of ''Series/{{Smallville}}''.
* Loki in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. There are four main camps: those who [[DracoInLeatherPants woobify Loki]], those who hate Loki because of all woobifying, those who hate him in general, and those who like/enjoy him as a villain. The haters can be as obnoxious as the woobifiers because they usually try to explain the proper, rational reaction to everything that happened to him [[GenreBlind without even realizing]] that super villains in general don't act rationally. Given that Loki is the God of Mischief, this is somewhat fitting.
* ''Film/TheMatrix'' movie was followed by those other two sequels. Also check out [[http://xkcd.com/566/ this]] ''WebComic/{{xkcd}}'' on Matrix's 10-year anniversary: "Wanna put on the other two? -- Crash! Wham! Ow! Ow!"
* ''Film/MissionImpossible'': fans of [[Series/MissionImpossible the TV show]] and the movies have been fighting since 1996, when the movie portrayed the main character of the TV series, Jim Phelps as the villain.
* Fans are often divided over who was really responsible for ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas.'' Was it Creator/TimBurton who wrote the original poem that the film was based off of or was it Henry Selick who directed the film?
** Which is weird as while Burton did write the original idea and drew many design sketches, he had almost nothing else to do with the project, as he was busy during the time with both ''Film/BatmanReturns'' and ''Film/EdWood'' and only oversaw production.
* Creator/TomSavini's version of ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1990''. Some saying it's a terrible remake that tarnishes the [[Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968 original]]. While others says that it's incredibly underrated and complements the original, Some saying it's far more entertaining. Sub-arguments of this film are;
** Patricia Tallman's interpretation of Barbara vs the original actress (O'dea) interpretation. Plus there's the TookALevelInBadAss that Tallman's character took.
** Tony Todd vs Duane Jones' version of Ben.
** Whether or not the revamped ending is better than the original.
* Some of the ''Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet'' sequels created a BrokenBase. ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet3DreamWarriors Dream Warriors]]'' (which some even see as ''THE'' best NOES film), and ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet4TheDreamMaster The Dream Master]]'' are usually highly reguarded. Where as ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge Freddy's Revenge]]'', ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet5TheDreamChild The Dream Child]]'' (Though some say had a great surreal eerie look, and interesting ideas), and ''Film/FreddysDeadTheFinalNightmare'' is the least liked, though there are a few who say ''Freddy's Revenge'', and ''Dream Child'' is not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, But fans generally all agree that ''Freddy's Dead'' is the ''worst''. And don't even bring up ''Film/WesCravensNewNightmare'' which is especially polarizing ([[CriticalDissonance despite good reviews]]). And then there's [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet2010 the remake]]. There's also a dispute about who was the better heroine of the franchise: Nancy, or Alice?
* ''Film/PacificRim'': While few will question the entertainment value of the action set pieces, opinion is sharply divided on whether the writing and story are good. And many feel that the secondary characters, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter several of whom were killed off in short order]], were more interesting than the main characters.
* The film ''Film/ParanormalActivity'' has about three different endings, and sure enough there's three different groups of fans that support one of the three endings over the others.
** The sequels are liked to various degrees, but are liked overall. However, [[Film/ParanormalActivity4 part four]] has essentially broken the base. Some say it added more mystery and background to the series, while others say it was slow and boring and didn't explain anything.
* There is a large split among great numbers of the fans of Creator/PeterJackson. First, there are fans who prefer only his early SoBadItsGood blood-splatter films ''Film/BadTaste'', ''Film/MeetTheFeebles'', and ''Film/BrainDead''. These guys tend to think that Jackson [[MoneyDearBoy sold out]] when he made the [[SarcasmMode unimaginative]], long, and boring Film/TheLordOfTheRings [[FilmoftheBook films]] and turned his back on TrueArt. Then there are the newer fans, most of whom were brought into the fold by Film/TheLordoftheRings, do not like his splatter films, but appreciate ''Film/HeavenlyCreatures'', ''Film/ForgottenSilver'', and ''Film/TheFrighteners''. The first group of fans looks on the second group as children, noobs, and various other Know-Nothings. The [[FlameWar flame wars]] fought over [[WhatAnIdiot the body of Jackson's work]] can get very [[InternetBackdraft nasty]]. Evidently, appreciation for the entirety of his work is just [[OpinionMyopia unthinkable]] to some.
* ''Film/{{Phantasm}}'' films:
** ''Film/PhantasmIIILordOfTheDead'' is polarizing among the phantasm fandom. Also there's other points of contention like..
** Is the Tallman of supernatural origin?, Or alien origin? (in the SciFi sense). The series is very vague about this.
** The sudden death of [[spoiler: Liz from [[Film/PhantasmII the second film]]]] is kinda dicey as well.
** Tim and Rocky from ''Phantasm III''. Cool Badass characters or over the top and out of place?
* ''Franchise/PlanetOfTheApes'': The timelines of [[Film/PlanetOfTheApes1968 the original film]]. There are devotees of the "it's all a giant circular timeline" theory, ie the aftermath of 'Film/BattleForThePlanetOfTheApes' ends up back at the beginning of film one, and devotees of the idea that Zira and Cornelius changed history by coming into the past with Caesar. ''Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes'' has gotten into this, with those who loved it and think it was an intelligent film and those who think it had way too many plot holes, MythologyGag stuff and logic failures.
* ''Film/PunisherWarZone'': is it a return to the series' roots after the intensely personal ''The Punisher'' from 2004, or is it an over-the-top violent spectacle that strays too far from the character of Frank Castle. Also, is it either completely horrible or the best ''Punisher'' film ever? Discussed in this Creator/PattonOswalt [[http://www.earwolf.com/episode/punisher-war-zone/ podcast]]
*** There's also a debate on whether or not Punisher is actually mainstream film material. Most of the violence people complained about in ''War Zone'' came directly from the comics.
* ''Film/ThePurge'' franchise is unusual in that fans are split on the FIRST entry, mainly due to accusations of BaitAndSwitch. The second film has a much better reputation, as giving viewers exactly what they were promised.
* People are divided on whether or not ''Film/ThePursuitOfHappyness'' has a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop or not.
* ''Film/{{REC}} 3'', has proven to be quite polarizing when compared to the first 2 films. There's also complaints about the inconsistency of how the "infected" is portrayed.
** Whether or not it's a straight forward horror film or a horror comedy. The inclusion of overt humor put some people off while others were ok with it.
* The ''Film/ResidentEvil'' films, so much so that from an objective point of view it's actually two completely different groups of fandom at each others' throats. One group is the fanbase from [[Franchise/ResidentEvil the games]], the others are solely fans of the films. In the beginning there might have been some cross pollination. But around the time the second film arrived (or maybe the third) fans of the game split off. Relatively leaving only the PeripheryDemographic as a fanbase for the film franchise. These two groups DO NOT like each other.
** The character of Alice is also very polarizing.
** The CG films vs. the live action films.
* ''Film/RoboCop2'' is particularly [[ContestedSequel polarizing]], though most fans generally agree that [[Film/RoboCop3 the third]] was a movie [[MerchandiseDriven made to sell toys]].
* The two versions of ''Film/TheShining'': Creator/StanleyKubrick's version is a horror masterpiece, or a travesty that defiled Creator/StephenKing's [[Literature/TheShining original novel]]. The remake is a triumphant vindication of King's vision, or a dreadfully sub-par made-for-TV movie.
** Kubrick's ''Film/EyesWideShut'' qualifies as well.
* Franchise/SpiderMan
** ''Film/SpiderMan3'' received a more contentious reception compared to the beloved ''Film/SpiderMan'' and ''Film/SpiderMan2''. While there are several people who view the movie as passable and even enjoyable, most fans view it as mediocre to awful with much criticism aimed at the movie for questionable characterization and overabundance of villains. Venom's depiction was particularly hated by comic book fans who feel that he did not resemble his comic book incarnation and was [[ExecutiveMeddling added in against director Sam Raimi's objections]].
** Its {{Reboot}}, ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' gets its own one over ''[[UnpleasableFanbase everything]]'' from its characterization, inspirations from the ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan mythos, and attempts to become a {{Shared Universe}}.[[note]]Except Creator/EmmaStone as Gwen Stacy, however.[[/note]]. Everything the base ''can'' be broken over, is.
* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'': [[spoiler: For starters, was Khan's casting worth it to see Creator/BenedictCumberbatch's acting talent, or was it pointless whitewashing of a famous person of color role?]] There's also the divide over the film being essentially a remake of a few specific Star Trek films, and [[spoiler: Kirk's DisneyDeath]].
* The whole revamp of the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' franchise prompted this -- actually quite good, or a [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks betrayal of the original franchise and all it stood for, just a cliché sci-fi action movie, whatever?]] And then there's the fans of the 2009 movie who never bothered to watch Star Trek until then.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Fans of ''Star Wars'' used to be a happy bunch. However, the release of the prequel trilogy from 1999-2005 formed a huge chasm between fans that still exists today. The fans continue to debate the quality of the prequels, and opinions are often very mixed; some like them, some dislike them, some are neutral on them, some fiercely defend them and some outright despise them. The general consensus among fans is this: The prequels are not as good as the original movies (and will never be as iconic), but they at least contributed a decent number of fresh characters, worlds and ideas to the Star Wars universe.
** The relevance and relative quality of the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' to the films themselves creates debate as well.
** When word got out that new Star Wars movies would be finally made, the chasm that the prequels created expanded, with one side excited for new Star Wars movies, and the other seeing this is greedy corporate exploitation of a CashCowFranchise.
*** The first new movie, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'': A good return to classic 'Star Wars' or a retread of 'A New Hope' with very little actual new material?
*** Kylo Ren: Good villain, or whiny and unappealing like [[spoiler:his grandfather as a young man]]? A good character type in his own right or a third-rate Jacen Solo knockoff just ''begging'' [[spoiler: for a Jaina to skewer him]]?
*** The death of [[spoiler:Han Solo]]: Necessary or overkill? Real or will there be a twist in the next movie?
*** The very question of "Who are Rey's parents?" may very well tear the fandom apart. Are they Han and Leia (which was the most popular belief prior to release)? Luke and a currently unknown mother (most common post-release theory)? Or is she really "no one"? And that isn't even getting into theories like her being Obi-Wan's granddaughter or a great-to-the-whatever descendant of the [[KnightsOftheOldRepublic Shan]] or [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Sunrider]] families (not likely, given CanonDiscontinuity, but this is StarWars, stranger stuff has happened).
* ''Film/SupermanReturns'' led to fan arguments, with some saying it captured the feel of the Christopher Reeve movies, and others feeling that it ignored the comics and/or upset about how [[spoiler: he left for five years for a stupid reason--that some fans use fanon to justify -- only to come back and learn that he'd left a bun in Lois' oven]].
* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'':
** Was the use of [[SerkisFolk performance capture and CGI]] over animatronics, like the earlier live-action films, a good thing or not?
** The faces of the Turtles, with a mix of human and reptilian features. Some think they look strange and bizarre, whilst others think they look perfectly suitable for the Turtles.
** The individual designs of the Turtles. Either they're cool and appropriate or way too cluttered.
** The Turtles and Splinter are revealed to [[spoiler:have been lab animals who were April's "pets" back when her father studied the mutagen with Sacks, before the lab was destroyed and they were exposed to the mutagen by accident.]] This is [[OlderThanTheyThink similar to the IDW comics]] [[spoiler:where April was an intern,]] but ''without'' [[spoiler:the {{reincarnation}} aspect that still retained Hamato Yoshi's feud with the Shredder (who is immortal in that universe).]] Regardless, some think it's too contrived, while others like that [[spoiler:Splinter and the turtles now have a more intimate connection to April, with them viewing her as a savior]].
* The ''Francise/{{Terminator}}'' fandom has an awful lot of fighting:
** ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' as a sequel to the original film. Mostly over its "lighter" tone compared to the first film which was darker with a lot of horror undertones.
** There's also a split over what the franchise should cover. One group want more exploits with Arnie's T-800 model, while the second group think Arnie is played out, and want to see future John Connor lead the resistance against the machines. The latter group is getting their wish....well they ''WAS'' getting their wish. After the lukewarm reception of ''Salvation'' (and a myriad of legal issues) the direction was up in the air . Then they decided on a reboot.
*** The divide boils down to More/Less time travel, More/less Arnie, More/Less future resistance battles, More/Less Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor. Exemplified by the responses at the bottom of [[http://www.deadline.com/2010/02/exclusive-wishers-take-on-terminator-5-6/ this article]]. The base is essentially shattered into a million pieces.
** This might have caused some resentment towards T2. Some fans felt Cameron just rehashed the first Terminator film, but with better special effects, instead of giving them a movie about the future John Connor.
** There was serious feuding in 2009-10 as to whether the [[AlternateTimeline canonically-incompatible]] ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' or ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' were the legitimate current incarnation of the franchise. The typical division was "''Salvation'' is a dumb action movie but ''The Sarah Connor Chronicles'' is serious, dramatic hard-SF", versus "''Salvation'' is the war movie the franchise has taken too long to deliver on and ''Sarah Connor Chronicles'' is boring and pretentious". Or, once the argument got fierce, "''Salvation'' fans are a bunch of thick lowbrow {{Fanboy}}s who just want to see explosions and are upset because ''SCC'' didn't have enough Summer Glau nudity" versus "''SCC'' fans are a bunch of pretentious Tumblr feminists who only claim to like it because they think it'll give them political cred". There was relatively wide agreement, however, that Salvation wasn't nearly as good as hoped. That's a different can of worms though.
** And then there's the other ContestedSequel, ''Terminator 3''. Did it simply turn the first two movies into a ShaggyDogStory, while turning on its head the main theme of ''Terminator 2'' ([[ScrewDestiny "There is no fate but what we make"]])? Or was it still a good flick in its own right?
** The thought of rehashing the time travel plot for a possible 5th film ([[DevelopmentHell if it's ever made]]) is definitely polarizing among fans.
*** This looks exactly like what the "reboot" is doing for better or for worse.
* When, where and how certain characters got infected in ''Film/TheThing1982''. In fact this could actually be a positive as it's part of the appeal when discussing the film.
** Then there's [[Film/TheThing2011 the prequel]]... which is another can of worms.
* The ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' films. More so the {{Contested Sequel}}s though.
** Everything in all films really is a broken base. From Megatron and Optimus being brothers, is that metaphorical or not and does it make sense with any past canon? Is Dino actually Mirage and Que Wheeljack? With a lot of fans just ignoring [[spoiler: Ironhide's and, sometimes, Jazz's deaths.]] To the ever popular "Is it a bad movie or not?"
** The characters designs of any given ''Transformers'' series is one of the most frequently and viciously argued-over topics. Should they be made of few chunky bits or thousands of shards? Rectangular or sleek? Simple or full of details? Cartoony or realistic? Human-like or more alien? Interestingly, while the robot designs of the first three movies were criticized all over the 'net for looking too alien, the designs for the fourth installment are under fire from the "other side" for looking like humans made of metal.
* There is a huge split among the fans of both ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and ''Film/ReturnToOz.'' There are some fans of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' that believed that the film was a true classic that defined the film industry, while they hated the sequel ''Film/ReturnToOz'' for being too dark and scary for the audience. However, the fans of ''Film/ReturnToOz'' applauded the movie for being much closer in tone to the original books while criticizing ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' for straying too far from the books and also blaming it for making ''Film/ReturnToOz'' so underrated as a film.
* The ''Film/WorldWarZ'' has this because the adaption is ''very'' loosely based on the book.
* ''Film/TheXFilesIWantToBelieve'' is either a great stand alone film, or a boring movie that's a filler episode in movie form. Though most fans generally didn't like it, it still has defenders.
* Honestly ''ALL'' of the ''Film/XMen''-films are argued over. ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' and ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' are for the most part outright hated, First Class is well liked by the critics but is polarizing among the base and general public. Storm as a character is also hotly debated, usually from people who either hate the actress or the character, or hate the character because of the actress. Then there's the debate over whether or not the character's casting was a blatant case of ButNotTooBlack. And then there's the issue of the films being [[WolverinePublicity overly wolverine centric]] to the detriment of other interesting and popular characters. The last 2 issues are HUGE flame starters.
** It doesn't help that people are starting to see Wolverine as a CreatorsPet for FOX.
** As with ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' mentioned below, fans have been divided over whether or not Marvel should take back the X-Men film franchise or let Fox keep the X-Men. Half of the fans said that X-Men should go back to Marvel since they think that Marvel will handle the characters better and let them be more faithful to their comic book counterparts. However, the other half of the fan base think that the X-Men should stay at Fox since they think that having the X-Men in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse would make things even more confusing due to the X-Men having too many characters and also the fact that some fans believe that Marvel would take out the more serious aspects of the X-Men (the persecution of the mutants and Magneto's tragic back story) and turn it into a generic superhero film series.
** ''Film/TheWolverine'':\
Some fans were rolling their eyes at the prospect of another Wolverine film, while others were more optimistic due to its change in director.[[note]]Although the problem [[ExecutiveMeddling doesn't seem to be the director]][[/note]]\
The decision to [[spoiler: bring back Wolverine's bone claws but still have an adamantium body]] has split fans in two.
** ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'':\
The inclusion of Quicksilver, mainly due to ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' director Creator/JossWhedon also including Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. The situation [[http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/06/02/why-joss-whedon-shouldn-t-watch-x-men-days-of-future-past-1466529?lt_source=external,manual#!UkryY has been compared]] to both Creator/SeanConnery and Creator/RogerMoore playing Franchise/JamesBond in DuelingMovies in 1983, with Connery's "non-canon" Bond being compared to this Quicksilver and Moore's "canon" Bond being the analogue to the MCU's version.\
The fact that the film isn't part of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, with the aforementioned Quicksilver issue not helping matters. For many fans, the fact that this movie got excellent reviews makes it debatable whether it would be worth it or not for Marvel to get back the X-Men rights at this point.\
The CosmicRetcon done to ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' and ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' due to the events of this film. To some, is great news because of the lackluster reception those films got, while others who liked those films feel it's dispresctful to the other directors to retcon them out of existence entirely.\
The decision to make Wolverine the main character of the storyline when Kitty Pryde was in the comics. It makes more sense with the movie series's established plotline (Wolverine is sent back via MentalTimeTravel to the 1970's and Kitty hasn't been born yet), but it's still a bitter pill for Kitty fans and people who wanted to see another X-Men movie where Wolverine was NOT the main character. It also goes in reverse; many fans who have stuck with the series since the release of ''X1'' have argued that the film would have had a ''drastically'' reduced emotional impact if we had Kitty instead of Logan, seeing as how little screen time she had in the previous movies, though there was no reason they couldn't have ''both'' gone back. [[spoiler:Although Logan's role in the movie is actually fairly minor in that when in the 1970's as he takes a backseat to Charles, Erik, and Raven.]]\
Kitty Pryde having the new power of [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands sending people back in time]], with [[AssPull no explanation given]]. ''DOFP'' writer [[WordOfGod Simon Kinberg]] stated [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacelacob/x-men-days-of-future-past-questions-simon-kinberg-answers Kitty developed this secondary mutant power]] after ''X3'', as the film's artistic license, but they never explain how it happened.
** AllThereInTheManual: A lot of fans accept that Kitty Pryde's powers are based in quantum theory. Physics professor James Kakalios has attempted to use quantum mechanics to explain Kitty Pryde's "phasing" power. He has described it as an ability to control her own "macroscopic quantum wave function, increasing her tunneling probability to near 100 percent at will. Combined with a post-high school level understanding of multidimensional physics, one could arguably make the assumption that her "tunnels" would apply not only in space, but in time as well. And since it's been established in the movie universes that she can bestow her own power onto any person she physically comes into contact with...
* ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad''. Is the movie feminist or just not-misogynistic? The debate isn't gonna stop anytime soon...
** Whether it is as good as the original trilogy. There are many people who think Fury Road was just an overblown cartoonish flick while others consider it the best movie in the series. The competition is especially tight between Fury Road and Road Warrior.
** The clashing accents have annoyed many people, particularly for Australians who were expecting the Broad Australian accent to pop up more since it was set in the desert. It can be very jarring when compared to the original trilogy where almost everyone was speaking with an Australian accent. The main characters, Max and Furiosa, speak with English and American accents respectively. Yes, ''Max Rockatansky'', the AwesomeAussie does not speak with an Australian accent. Cue the FlameWar.
** Who was the real [[TheHero Hero]] of ''Mad Max: Fury Road''? Was it Max? Furiosa? Or both? Many people consider TheHero to be Furiosa, but Max is a prominent protagonist in the movie as well. The series is called ''Mad Max'', after all. The fact that Furiosa is the one who [[spoiler: kills Immortan Joe at the end of the movie]] rather than Max doesn't help either.[[note]]It is worth noting that the two previous films seems to follow this trend as well: a larger conflict (Raiders vs Refugees/Master-Blaster vs Aunty Entity) with Max caught in the middle.[[/note]]
** The idea of there being a [[DeliberatelyMonochrome black-and-white version]] of the movie. George Miller stated in an interview that it's better if the movie was black-and-white, but the fact that it's pretty much the same movie but without the color and dialogue might have people disagree otherwise. The black-and-white version not being available from the first home release doesn't help things either.
* ''Film/GetOut''. Is the movie a legitimately scary horror story? Or a racist anti-white propaganda who's purpose is to demonize white people as much as possible and spread more fear and distrust between white and dark skinned people by telling the later they should not trust the former?
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** There's a divide on whether or not Pixar has managed to get out of their Dork Age yet; some people think that they have due to the universal acclaim of ''Inside Out'' and very positive reception of ''Finding Dory'', but others feel that they still have some ways to go, with ''The Good Dinosaur'' widely being considered SoOkayItsAverage and ''Finding Dory'' still causing a BrokenBase on whether or not it meets Pixar's enormous standards.

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** There's a divide on whether or not Pixar has managed to get out of their Dork Age yet; some people think that they have due to the universal acclaim of ''Inside Out'' and very positive reception of ''Finding Dory'', but others feel that they still have some ways to go, with ''The Good Dinosaur'' widely being considered SoOkayItsAverage and ''Finding Dory'' still causing a BrokenBase on whether or not it meets Pixar's enormous being seen as slightly below Pixar standards.
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* Is Film/SpaceJam one of the coolest sports movies to come out of 1996 or a piece of garbage that should never have been made?

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* Is Film/SpaceJam one of the coolest sports movies to come out of 1996 the [[TheNineties 90s]] or a piece of garbage that should never have been made?old garbage?
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* ''Film/GetOut''. Is the movie a legitimately scary horror story? Or a racist anti-white propaganda who's purpose is to demonize white people as much as possible and spread more fear and distrust between white and dark skinned people by telling the later they should not trust the former?
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** When word got out that new Star Wars movies would be finally made, the chasm that the prequels created expanded, with one side excited for new Star Wars movies, and the other seeing this is greedy corporate exploitation of a [[CashCowFranchise]].

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** When word got out that new Star Wars movies would be finally made, the chasm that the prequels created expanded, with one side excited for new Star Wars movies, and the other seeing this is greedy corporate exploitation of a [[CashCowFranchise]].CashCowFranchise.
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** When word got out that new Star Wars movies would be finally made, the chasm that the prequels created expanded, with one side excited for new Star Wars movies, and the other seeing this is greedy corporate exploitation of a [[Cash Cow Franchise]].

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** When word got out that new Star Wars movies would be finally made, the chasm that the prequels created expanded, with one side excited for new Star Wars movies, and the other seeing this is greedy corporate exploitation of a [[Cash Cow Franchise]].[[CashCowFranchise]].
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