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23rd Jul '16 4:16:09 PM HeroGal2347
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* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooFrankencreepy'': Daphne's "[[FatGirl curse]]" and the resolution. Some people view it as sending the message to young girls that you're only valuable if you're thin and pretty enough for a guy to like you; others see it as Daphne being superficial and ultimately learning that she doesn't ''have'' to have a Barbie-like appearance, thanks in part to [[ImpliedLoveInterest Fred's]] supportiveness.
4th Jul '16 11:41:47 AM contrafanxxx
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** The idea of there being a [[DeliberatelyMonochrome black-and-white version]] of the movie. George Miller stated in an interview that it's better if the movie was black-and-white, but the fact that it's pretty much the same movie but without the color and dialogue might have people disagree otherwise. The black-and-white version not being available from the first home release doesn't help things either.
3rd Jul '16 8:41:36 AM ILoveCartoons9120
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* Tobias Lelle as the new German voice of Squidward in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater''. Some think he has a lot of potential and competently succeeds the late Eberhard Prüter had set, and are willing to give him a chance. Others think he's too unrefined and inconsistent in his voice, sometimes sounding like Rodger Bumpass' interpretation, other times sounding closer to his own voice. To be fair, Prüter had a very distinctive, very unique natural speaking voice and that was what he used on the show; it was always going to make him a ToughActtoFollow.

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* Tobias Lelle as the new German voice of Squidward in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater''. Some think he has a lot of potential and competently succeeds the late Eberhard Prüter had set, and are willing to give him a chance. Others think he's too unrefined and inconsistent in his voice, sometimes sounding like Rodger Bumpass' interpretation, other times sounding closer to his own voice. To be fair, Prüter had a very distinctive, very unique natural speaking voice and that was what he used on the show; therefore it was always going to make him a ToughActtoFollow.ToughActtoFollow anyway.


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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'':
** One particular debate amongst ''Zootopia'' fans is the friend/relationship between Judy Hopps (a rabbit/bunny) and Nick Wilde (a fox), whether they're perfect as a couple (even if they're different species), or they should just stay friends (those easily on this side of the fence are those who hate interspecies relationships; something that Disney has done plenty of times before). Though to be fair, a bit of romance can be sensed in the pair's friendship (especially [[spoiler:with one surprising line in the end of the movie (Nick: ''You know you love me.'' Judy: ''Do I know that? Yes. Yes I do.'']]).
22nd Jun '16 3:27:48 PM TT454
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*** Shipping Kylo Ren/Rey ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName Reylo]]"): Supported by FoeYay and a possible VillainousCrush? Or baseless [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pantsing]] of Kylo and chickifying Rey [[spoiler:and possible incest, to boot]]? Maybe Abrams has played too much ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', given Kylo's resemblance to Revan (right down to the dark-light conflict and merely a foolhardy, questionably-sane tool of the shadowy emperor figure) and Rey's more than passing resemblance to Bastila Shan?
*** Shipping any of the leads. Is shipping Finn/Poe a good statement for one of the first {{GayOption}}s in StarWars that ''didn't'' get cooked up by BioWare? Or is it a way to get two ethnic minority men "out of the way" so [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt they won't get shipped with the white female lead?]] Of course, one could declare OneTrueThreesome and be done with it.
22nd Jun '16 3:24:48 PM TT454
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** The quality of the prequels compared to the original trilogy.
** The relevance and relative quality of the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' to the films themselves.
** The new movies: awesome updates of a struggling film franchise or a sign that soulless corporations will desecrate ''Star Wars'' for money.
** The first new movie, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'': A good return to classic 'Star Wars' or a retread of 'A New Hope' with very little actual new material?

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** Fans of ''Star Wars'' used to be a happy bunch. However, the release of the prequel trilogy from 1999-2005 formed a huge chasm between fans that still exists today. The fans continue to debate the quality of the prequels, and opinions are often very mixed; some like them, some dislike them, some are neutral on them, some fiercely defend them and some outright despise them. The general consensus among fans is this: The prequels compared to are not as good as the original trilogy.
movies (and will never be as iconic), but they at least contributed a decent number of fresh characters, worlds and ideas to the Star Wars universe.
** The relevance and relative quality of the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' to the films themselves.
themselves creates debate as well.
** The When word got out that new movies: awesome updates Star Wars movies would be finally made, the chasm that the prequels created expanded, with one side excited for new Star Wars movies, and the other seeing this is greedy corporate exploitation of a struggling film franchise or a sign that soulless corporations will desecrate ''Star Wars'' for money.
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The first new movie, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'': A good return to classic 'Star Wars' or a retread of 'A New Hope' with very little actual new material?
20th Jun '16 9:23:46 AM Allronix
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*** Kylo Ren: Good villain, or whiny and unappealing like [[spoiler:his grandfather as a young man]]?

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*** Kylo Ren: Good villain, or whiny and unappealing like [[spoiler:his grandfather as a young man]]?man]]? A good character type in his own right or a third-rate Jacen Solo knockoff just ''begging'' [[spoiler: for a Jaina to skewer him]]?



*** The very question of "Who are Rey's parents?" may very well tear the fandom apart. Are they Han and Leia (which was the most popular belief prior to release)? Luke and a currently unknown mother (most common post-release theory)? Or is she really "no one"? And that isn't even getting into theories like her being Obi-Wan's granddaughter.
*** Shipping Kylo Ren/Rey ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName Reylo]]"): Supported by FoeYay and a possible VillainousCrush? Or baseless [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pantsing]] of Kylo and chickifying Rey [[spoiler:and possible incest, to boot]]?

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*** The very question of "Who are Rey's parents?" may very well tear the fandom apart. Are they Han and Leia (which was the most popular belief prior to release)? Luke and a currently unknown mother (most common post-release theory)? Or is she really "no one"? And that isn't even getting into theories like her being Obi-Wan's granddaughter.
granddaughter or a great-to-the-whatever descendant of the [[KnightsOftheOldRepublic Shan]] or [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Sunrider]] families (not likely, given CanonDiscontinuity, but this is StarWars, stranger stuff has happened).
*** Shipping Kylo Ren/Rey ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName Reylo]]"): Supported by FoeYay and a possible VillainousCrush? Or baseless [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pantsing]] of Kylo and chickifying Rey [[spoiler:and possible incest, to boot]]?boot]]? Maybe Abrams has played too much ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', given Kylo's resemblance to Revan (right down to the dark-light conflict and merely a foolhardy, questionably-sane tool of the shadowy emperor figure) and Rey's more than passing resemblance to Bastila Shan?
*** Shipping any of the leads. Is shipping Finn/Poe a good statement for one of the first {{GayOption}}s in StarWars that ''didn't'' get cooked up by BioWare? Or is it a way to get two ethnic minority men "out of the way" so [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt they won't get shipped with the white female lead?]] Of course, one could declare OneTrueThreesome and be done with it.
14th Jun '16 9:24:52 AM 06tele
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* Amid all the kerfuffle about the 2016 ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'' reboot, with many fans claiming that the film was for whatever reason a betrayal of the [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 original]], or that it could at any rate never match up to the original, it was inevitable that somebody would come along and argue that [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/06/08/can-we-stop-pretending-the-original-ghostbusters-is-a-masterpiec/ the original wasn't all that good in the first place]].

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* Amid all the kerfuffle about the 2016 ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'' reboot, ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'', with many fans claiming on the bases of its premise, or its casting, or its trailers, that the film it was for whatever reason a horrible betrayal of the [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 original]], or that it could at any rate never match up to the original, it was inevitable that somebody would come along and argue that [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/06/08/can-we-stop-pretending-the-original-ghostbusters-is-a-masterpiec/ the original wasn't all that good in the first place]].
14th Jun '16 9:23:18 AM 06tele
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* Amid all the kerfuffle about the 2016 ''Film/Ghostbusters2016'' reboot, with many fans claiming that the film was for whatever reason a betrayal of the [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 original]], or that it could at any rate never match up to the original, it was inevitable that somebody would come along and argue that [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/06/08/can-we-stop-pretending-the-original-ghostbusters-is-a-masterpiec/ the original wasn't all that good in the first place]].
9th Jun '16 4:07:21 PM Anddrix
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* ''Film/{{Divergent}}''

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* ''Film/{{Divergent}}''''Film/{{Divergent}}'':


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** Creator/ShaileneWoodley as Tris. A lot of book fans felt she was all wrong for the role, and many reviewers described her performance as "disaffected" - plenty comparing her unfavourably to Creator/KristenStewart in the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' films. Others however, particularly around the time ''The Divergent Series: Insurgent'' was released, praised her as one of the best parts of the franchise - and she enjoyed the same level of hype that Creator/JenniferLawrence got from ''Film/TheHungerGames''.
30th May '16 4:45:21 PM Anddrix
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* Audiences are divided over the pacing, the multiple stories, the use of a modern soundtrack in a historical setting, and the comedy of ''WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife''.
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