History BrokenBase / ComicBooks

2nd Jan '16 1:43:30 PM nombretomado
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* ''YTheLastMan'' got this right after the last few issues. Then there's the seething resentment of Yorick's sister and girlfriend. * As with the games, [[SonicTheComic both]] ''SonicTheHedgehog'' [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog comics]]. The various changes from the games and WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM are a major BaseBreaker in the Archie's comic, and ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' fans seem more broken over the unofficially official ''SonicTheComicOnline''.
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* ''YTheLastMan'' ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' got this right after the last few issues. Then there's the seething resentment of Yorick's sister and girlfriend. * As with the games, [[SonicTheComic [[ComicBook/SonicTheComic both]] ''SonicTheHedgehog'' [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog comics]]. The various changes from the games and WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM are a major BaseBreaker in the Archie's comic, and ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' fans seem more broken over the unofficially official ''SonicTheComicOnline''.''Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline''.
20th Dec '15 7:41:05 PM nombretomado
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* The SuperHero comic book medium as a whole is divided as to if UsefulNotes/{{the Dark Age|of Comic Books}} was a good thing that brought maturity to the medium, or if it's all just {{Wangst}} and the SilverAge lighthearted goofiness was better. The theme of the ModernAge seems to be the conflict between the two groups, both of which are fighting for [[RunningTheAsylum control of the asylum]].
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* The SuperHero comic book medium as a whole is divided as to if UsefulNotes/{{the Dark Age|of Comic Books}} was a good thing that brought maturity to the medium, or if it's all just {{Wangst}} and the SilverAge UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} lighthearted goofiness was better. The theme of the ModernAge seems to be the conflict between the two groups, both of which are fighting for [[RunningTheAsylum control of the asylum]].

* The Gray/Palmiotti run on ''ComicBook/PowerGirl''. In particular, the more [[LighterAndSofter light hearted and humorous]] tone their stories featured in favor of DC's [[DarkerAndEdgier usual fare]]. One half of the fandom will tell you it was a great throwback to the SilverAge that finally gave ComicBook/PowerGirl a fun and relatable personality, while the other half will tell you it did nothing but cement her status as a one-note character who will never amount to anything other than being the butt of endless [[GagBoobs boob jokes]].
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* The Gray/Palmiotti run on ''ComicBook/PowerGirl''. In particular, the more [[LighterAndSofter light hearted light-hearted and humorous]] tone their stories featured in favor of DC's [[DarkerAndEdgier usual fare]]. One half of the fandom will tell you it was a great throwback to the SilverAge UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} that finally gave ComicBook/PowerGirl a fun and relatable personality, while the other half will tell you it did nothing but cement her status as a one-note character who will never amount to anything other than being the butt of endless [[GagBoobs boob jokes]].
10th Nov '15 5:40:39 AM StFan
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* ComicBook/TransformersDarkCybertron had [[spoiler:Megatron]] pull a HeelFaceTurn and become the star of ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye. Fans are split over this, some see it as an interesting and unique approach to the character with lot's of story potential, others feel that it's against character and flies in the face of all the evil things he's done. Others don't want to get invested because they feel StatusQuoIsGod will take effect and he'll go back to being evil in spite of what the author said. Finally, there's all the comparisons to Recap/TransformersPrimeTVMBeastHuntersPredaconsRising where something similar happened, and those that feel it's handled better in the comics.
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* ComicBook/TransformersDarkCybertron had ''ComicBook/TheTransformersDarkCybertron'' has [[spoiler:Megatron]] pull a HeelFaceTurn and become the star of ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye. ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye''. Fans are split over this, some see it as an interesting and unique approach to the character with lot's lots of story potential, others feel that it's against character and flies in the face of all the evil things he's done. Others don't want to get invested because they feel StatusQuoIsGod will take effect and he'll go back to being evil in spite of what the author said. Finally, there's all the comparisons to Recap/TransformersPrimeTVMBeastHuntersPredaconsRising ''Recap/TransformersPrimeTVMBeastHuntersPredaconsRising'' where something similar happened, and those that feel it's handled better in the comics.
9th Nov '15 10:30:29 AM StFan
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* The most consistent point of contention amongst {{Franchise/Transformers}} fans in the IDW comics is the use of AdaptationalVillainy. The least controversial examples are Prowl from ''ComicBook/TheTransformersAllHailMegatron'' and Overlord from ''ComicBook/TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers'', as their revisions into an antiheroic chess master and utter Sociopath respectively have served to make the characters both interesting and memorable (though some liked Overlord better as a NobleDemon). The base has more noticeable fractures regarding Star Saber from ''ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', who went from a heroic Autobot leader to a monstrous KnightTemplar, some feel it ruins such a great character to have them at this level of depravity others feel original Star Saber was too much of an Optimus Prime knockoff and welcome the change. Finally there's Rattrap, who went from a heroic JerkWithAHeartOfGold to a selfish backstabbing [[TheStarscream Starscream]] to Starscream himself. Fans either think he's redeemable and can be turned around, or an insult to the original and a smug little troll.
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* The most consistent point of contention amongst {{Franchise/Transformers}} fans in the IDW comics is the use of AdaptationalVillainy. The least controversial examples are Prowl from ''ComicBook/TheTransformersAllHailMegatron'' and Overlord from ''ComicBook/TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers'', ''ComicBook/TheTransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers'', as their revisions into an antiheroic chess master and utter Sociopath respectively have served to make the characters both interesting and memorable (though some liked Overlord better as a NobleDemon). The base has more noticeable fractures regarding Star Saber from ''ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', who went from a heroic Autobot leader to a monstrous KnightTemplar, some feel it ruins such a great character to have them at this level of depravity others feel original Star Saber was too much of an Optimus Prime knockoff and welcome the change. Finally there's Rattrap, who went from a heroic JerkWithAHeartOfGold to a selfish backstabbing [[TheStarscream Starscream]] to Starscream himself. Fans either think he's redeemable and can be turned around, or an insult to the original and a smug little troll.
7th Nov '15 8:29:31 AM StFan
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Sinkhole.
* The most consistent point of contention amongst {{Franchise/Transformers}} fans in the IDW comics is the use of AdaptationalVillainy. The least controversial examples are [[ComicBook/TransformersAllHailMegatron Prowl]] and [[ComicBook/TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers Overlord]] as their revisions into an antiheroic chess master and utter Sociopath respectively have served to make the characters both interesting and memorable (though some liked Overlord better as a NobleDemon). The base has more noticeable fractures regarding [[ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye Star Saber]] who went from a heroic Autobot leader to a monstrous KnightTemplar, some feel it ruins such a great character to have them at this level of depravity others feel original Star Saber was too much of an Optimus Prime knockoff and welcome the change. Finally there's Rattrap, who went from a heroic JerkWithAHeartOfGold to a selfish backstabbing [[TheStarscream Starscream]] to Starscream himself. Fans either think he's redeemable and can be turned around, or an insult to the original and a smug little troll.
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* The most consistent point of contention amongst {{Franchise/Transformers}} fans in the IDW comics is the use of AdaptationalVillainy. The least controversial examples are [[ComicBook/TransformersAllHailMegatron Prowl]] Prowl from ''ComicBook/TheTransformersAllHailMegatron'' and [[ComicBook/TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers Overlord]] Overlord from ''ComicBook/TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers'', as their revisions into an antiheroic chess master and utter Sociopath respectively have served to make the characters both interesting and memorable (though some liked Overlord better as a NobleDemon). The base has more noticeable fractures regarding [[ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye Star Saber]] Saber from ''ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', who went from a heroic Autobot leader to a monstrous KnightTemplar, some feel it ruins such a great character to have them at this level of depravity others feel original Star Saber was too much of an Optimus Prime knockoff and welcome the change. Finally there's Rattrap, who went from a heroic JerkWithAHeartOfGold to a selfish backstabbing [[TheStarscream Starscream]] to Starscream himself. Fans either think he's redeemable and can be turned around, or an insult to the original and a smug little troll.
5th Nov '15 8:15:23 AM nombretomado
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* ''TheMightyThor'' (aka Marvel's Thor) fan base is as broken as you can get. [[UnpleasableFanbase Half the fan base]] is divided into those who care only about 'good showings' and having Thor win every. Single. Fight (and they won't accept otherwise), while the other half just wants to enjoy the comics in peace. And don't forget those who hate [[FunnyAnimal Beta Ray Bill]] or absolutely love him, and [[ClothesMakeTheLegend love the new costume or hate it]]...
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* ''TheMightyThor'' ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'' (aka Marvel's Thor) fan base is as broken as you can get. [[UnpleasableFanbase Half the fan base]] is divided into those who care only about 'good showings' and having Thor win every. Single. Fight (and they won't accept otherwise), while the other half just wants to enjoy the comics in peace. And don't forget those who hate [[FunnyAnimal Beta Ray Bill]] or absolutely love him, and [[ClothesMakeTheLegend love the new costume or hate it]]...
18th Oct '15 10:24:42 AM nombretomado
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* The Gray/Palmiotti run on ''PowerGirl''. In particular, the more [[LighterAndSofter light hearted and humorous]] tone their stories featured in favor of DC's [[DarkerAndEdgier usual fare]]. One half of the fandom will tell you it was a great throwback to the SilverAge that finally gave PowerGirl a fun and relatable personality, while the other half will tell you it did nothing but cement her status as a one-note character who will never amount to anything other than being the butt of endless [[GagBoobs boob jokes]].
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* The Gray/Palmiotti run on ''PowerGirl''.''ComicBook/PowerGirl''. In particular, the more [[LighterAndSofter light hearted and humorous]] tone their stories featured in favor of DC's [[DarkerAndEdgier usual fare]]. One half of the fandom will tell you it was a great throwback to the SilverAge that finally gave PowerGirl ComicBook/PowerGirl a fun and relatable personality, while the other half will tell you it did nothing but cement her status as a one-note character who will never amount to anything other than being the butt of endless [[GagBoobs boob jokes]].
10th Oct '15 9:20:24 AM nombretomado
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** With the {{New 52}} reboot, DC wound up provoking the base by [[ThrowingOffTheDisability uncrippling Barbara]] and making her [[{{ComicBook/Batgirl 2011}} Batgirl]] again, leaving Stephanie in the lurch for a little while before being established as Spoiler again. Cass, at least, had previously found a spot as Blackbat, one of the international Batmen, but neither she nor Steph have any mini-series or ongoings in the future. The situation has been complicated further with the fact that editorial considers Steph and Cass "toxic" and has refused requests from writers to have them appear in their titles. To sum up, Batgirl has the most broken base in all comics, with about 5 different factions of thought, which really could be mostly appeased if it was recognized that all 3 are separate, good, unique characters, and each had a home series.
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** With the {{New ComicBook/{{New 52}} reboot, DC wound up provoking the base by [[ThrowingOffTheDisability uncrippling Barbara]] and making her [[{{ComicBook/Batgirl 2011}} Batgirl]] again, leaving Stephanie in the lurch for a little while before being established as Spoiler again. Cass, at least, had previously found a spot as Blackbat, one of the international Batmen, but neither she nor Steph have any mini-series or ongoings in the future. The situation has been complicated further with the fact that editorial considers Steph and Cass "toxic" and has refused requests from writers to have them appear in their titles. To sum up, Batgirl has the most broken base in all comics, with about 5 different factions of thought, which really could be mostly appeased if it was recognized that all 3 are separate, good, unique characters, and each had a home series.

** The Barry-Wally fanbase split has only gotten worse. The {{New 52}} reboot has seemingly erased all stories involving Wally as both Flash and Kid Flash, and he's yet to be mentioned anywhere in the new timeline. As a result, the two camps have grown particularly rabid toward each other.
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** The Barry-Wally fanbase split has only gotten worse. The {{New ComicBook/{{New 52}} reboot has seemingly erased all stories involving Wally as both Flash and Kid Flash, and he's yet to be mentioned anywhere in the new timeline. As a result, the two camps have grown particularly rabid toward each other.

* As with the games, [[SonicTheComic both]] ''SonicTheHedgehog'' [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog comics]]. The various changes from the games and WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM are a major BaseBreaker in the Archie's comic, and ''SonicTheComic'' fans seem more broken over the unofficially official ''SonicTheComicOnline''. * The {{New 52}} relaunch already received backlash months before it had occured. Although many complaints are due to costume changes and the like. There was even a protest planned by the more upset fans during the 2011 Comic-Con. This looks to be a rather large iceberg aiming for the DC Titanic.
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* As with the games, [[SonicTheComic both]] ''SonicTheHedgehog'' [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog comics]]. The various changes from the games and WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM are a major BaseBreaker in the Archie's comic, and ''SonicTheComic'' ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' fans seem more broken over the unofficially official ''SonicTheComicOnline''. * The {{New ComicBook/{{New 52}} relaunch already received backlash months before it had occured.occurred. Although many complaints are due to costume changes and the like. There was even a protest planned by the more upset fans during the 2011 Comic-Con. This looks to be a rather large iceberg aiming for the DC Titanic.
8th Oct '15 6:52:30 PM nombretomado
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** It has so far led to death threats aimed at Slott, mocking comparisons to {{Knightfall}}, ComicBook/OneMoreDay and ComicBook/TheCloneSaga. Slott's [[{{Understatement}} less than temperate response]], TrollingCreator tendencies and his main defence of criticism being quoting sales at his detractors as well as trawling message boards and getting the mods on the Marvel boards to defend him/support him has led to him becoming the fandom's number one hate figure, on a par with Joe Quesada.
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** It has so far led to death threats aimed at Slott, mocking comparisons to {{Knightfall}}, ComicBook/{{Knightfall}}, ComicBook/OneMoreDay and ComicBook/TheCloneSaga. Slott's [[{{Understatement}} less than temperate response]], TrollingCreator tendencies and his main defence of criticism being quoting sales at his detractors as well as trawling message boards and getting the mods on the Marvel boards to defend him/support him has led to him becoming the fandom's number one hate figure, on a par with Joe Quesada.
8th Oct '15 5:16:40 PM nombretomado
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** And it's still going on. The newest point of contention is the Earth-2 related books: Is the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica forever ruined? Why is DC shoving the Trinity into yet ''another'' book? Why is the costume for Jay Garrick so bad? Why did they get rid of Power Girl's notorious boob-window? Why does Earth-2 seem much more grimdark than the already grimdark main DCU earth? And of course, why aren't the Justice Society the same as they used to be?
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** And it's still going on. The newest point of contention is the Earth-2 related books: Is the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica forever ruined? Why is DC shoving the Trinity into yet ''another'' book? Why is the costume for Jay Garrick so bad? Why did they get rid of Power Girl's notorious boob-window? Why does Earth-2 seem much more grimdark than the already grimdark main DCU earth? And of course, why aren't the Justice Society the same as they used to be?
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