History BrokenBase / AnimeAndManga

15th Apr '17 10:53:48 PM KaworuS
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** The franchise has a ''very'' broken fanbase, starting within the [[Anime/YuGiOh original series]] where fans dispute the canon-ness of Noa's Arc, DOMA, and the KC Grand Prix, with many fans arguing that non-manga arcs were never canon and should not have been made. Then after the original series ended, conflicts arose within and around its spinoffs, ''[[Anime/YuGiOhGX GX]]'', [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's]], and most recently [[Anime/YuGiOhZexal ZEXAL]]. There are some who enjoyed ''GX'', some who hated it from the very beginning, and some who watched it through then suddenly began talking about how much they hated it all along. Many GX fans say that it did not end as well as it should have, with some fans complaining that it was cut short to make room for 5D's. Even so, 5D's with its ridiculous motorcycle dueling premise was and is still laughed at and not taken seriously by fans of the original series. But 5D's, small fandom and all, has been generally more liked than GX, leading GX fans feeling like they were left out and that GX became the BlackSheep of the franchise.

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** The franchise has a ''very'' broken fanbase, starting within the [[Anime/YuGiOh original series]] where fans dispute the canon-ness of Noa's Arc, DOMA, and the KC Grand Prix, with many fans arguing that non-manga arcs were never canon and should not have been made. Then after the original series ended, conflicts arose within and around its spinoffs, ''[[Anime/YuGiOhGX GX]]'', [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's]], and most recently [[Anime/YuGiOhZexal ZEXAL]]. There are some who enjoyed ''GX'', some who hated it from the very beginning, and some who watched it through then suddenly began talking about how much they hated it all along. Many GX fans say that it did not end as well as it should have, with some fans complaining that it was cut short to make room for 5D's. Even so, 5D's...even though the reason GX was cut short was due to a contract dispute with Judai/Jaden Yuki's voice actor KENN forcing 5D's into production early. Regardless, 5D's with its ridiculous motorcycle dueling premise was and is still laughed at and not taken seriously by fans of the original series. But 5D's, small fandom and all, 5D's has been generally more liked than GX, GX due to a greater rotating focus on it's cast which GX lacked, leading GX fans feeling like they were left out and that GX became the BlackSheep of the franchise. franchise until Zexal Debuted.
***All of this is only made worse when you factor in how much of the fandom has only seen the DUB, which changed a great deal many things MORE than the original change from Manga-to-Anime, which incites much of the hatred for the Filler arcs as the changes made them no-longer contiguous. But that also brings in the divide of the fandom "PURISTS" that only acknowledge the Dub and refuse to recognize anything 4Kids/4k media changed as having BEEN a change, despite 4kids/4K Gutting almost ALL of the existing character arcs in the series.
11th Apr '17 6:17:21 PM nombretomado
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* The GrandFinale of the ''ShugoChara'' manga. Was it a fitting end to the series or just everyone getting StrangledByTheRedString and leaving plot threads hanging?

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* The GrandFinale of the ''ShugoChara'' ''Manga/ShugoChara'' manga. Was it a fitting end to the series or just everyone getting StrangledByTheRedString and leaving plot threads hanging?
2nd Apr '17 5:35:55 AM Kotomikun
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* To ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fans, the sequel movie known as ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is ''extremely'' contentious--mainly due to the part where [[spoiler:Homura usurps Madoka and becomes a demon, creating a better world for everyone (except Madoka... probably), but in a morally questionable and manipulative way]]. Some people consider this ending a complete trainwreck, and will usually claim [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness it was so out-of-character]] that [[FanonDiscontinuity the entire movie (or just the final-act twist) didn't really happen]]. But some people love it, because of some combination of [[DarkerAndEdgier the coolness/edginess/tragicness]], the fact that [[IKnewIt they saw the big twist coming]], or the [[MindScrew sheer wild complexity of the whole thing]]. There isn't much middle ground. The related question of whether [[spoiler:Homura's decision to take over the universe]] was good or evil can generate heated arguments at a moments notice, which generally go nowhere because viewers' opinions on this question are absolutely unshakeable.

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* To ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fans, the sequel movie known as ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is ''extremely'' contentious--mainly due to the part where [[spoiler:Homura usurps Madoka and becomes a demon, creating a better world for everyone (except Madoka... probably), but in a morally questionable and manipulative way]]. Some people consider this ending a complete trainwreck, and will usually claim [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness it was so out-of-character]] that [[FanonDiscontinuity the entire movie (or just the final-act twist) didn't really happen]]. But some people love it, because of some combination of [[DarkerAndEdgier the coolness/edginess/tragicness]], the fact that [[IKnewIt they saw the big twist coming]], or the [[MindScrew sheer wild complexity of the whole thing]]. There isn't much middle ground. The related question of whether [[spoiler:Homura's decision to take over the universe]] was good or evil can generate heated arguments at a moments moment's notice, which generally go nowhere because viewers' opinions on this question are absolutely unshakeable.
2nd Apr '17 5:34:34 AM Kotomikun
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* To ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fans, the sequel movie known as ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]]'' is ''extremely'' contentious--mainly due to the part where [[spoiler:Homura usurps Madoka and becomes a demon, creating a better world for everyone (except Madoka... probably), but in a morally questionable and manipulative way]]. Some people consider this ending a complete trainwreck, and will usually claim [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness it was so out-of-character]] that [[FanonDiscontinuity the entire movie (or just the final-act twist) didn't really happen]]. But some people love it, because of some combination of [[DarkerAndEdgier the coolness/edginess/tragicness]], the fact that [[IKnewIt they saw the big twist coming]], or the [[MindScrew sheer wild complexity of the whole thing]]. There isn't much middle ground. The related question of whether [[spoiler:Homura's decision to take over the universe]] was good or evil can generate heated arguments at a moments notice, which generally go nowhere because viewers' opinions on this question are absolutely unshakeable.
12th Mar '17 4:20:42 PM NightShade96
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!!Anime and manga with their own pages
[[index]]
* ''BrokenBase/DanganRonpa3''
* ''BrokenBase/SailorMoonCrystal''
* ''BrokenBase/DragonBallSuper''
[[/index]]
10th Feb '17 1:25:40 PM ZombieAladdin
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'''s fans have two factions: Those who have aligned themselves with the official English translations and those who have aligned themselves with the fansubs. The English translation camp will accuse the fansub people (including the fansubbers themselves) of being too into GratuitousJapanese and supporting operations that legally should not exist. The fansubbing camp will accuse the official English translation fans as betraying Oda's visions through rewrites and translating some characters' names (Nekomamushi and Inuarashi being translated as "Cat Viper" and "Dogstorm" is a particularly sore point) and supporting an industry they feel does not respect the source material.

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'''s fans have two factions: Those who have aligned themselves with the official English translations and those who have aligned themselves with the fansubs. fan translations. The English translation camp will accuse the fansub fan translation people (including the fansubbers themselves) of being too into GratuitousJapanese and supporting operations that legally should not exist. The fansubbing fan translations camp will accuse the official English translation fans as betraying Eiichiro Oda's visions vision through rewrites and translating some characters' names (Nekomamushi and Inuarashi being translated as "Cat Viper" and "Dogstorm" is a particularly sore point) and supporting an industry they feel does not respect the source material.material. Both of these viewpoints are at the fringes of the fandom though, with most fans having a preference but not strong enough to engage in arguments. Nevertheless, this divide is the reason why fan translation for ''One Piece'' continues to get a sizable audience even as Viz and [=FUNimation=] simultaenously release English translations alongside the Japanese releases, and is why on this very site, ''One Piece'' appears to have two sets of terminology (such as "Seven Warlords" vs. "Shichibukai," "Comrades vs. "{{Nakama}}," and in an extreme case, "Straw Hat Pirates" vs. "Mugiwara Pirates").
10th Feb '17 1:16:34 PM ZombieAladdin
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'''s fans have two factions: Those who have aligned themselves with the official English translations and those who have aligned themselves with the fansubs. The English translation camp will accuse the fansub people (including the fansubbers themselves) of being too into GratuitousJapanese and supporting operations that legally should not exist. The fansubbing camp will accuse the official English translation fans as betraying Oda's visions through rewrites and translating some characters' names (Nekomamushi and Inuarashi being translated as "Cat Viper" and "Dogstorm" is a particularly sore point) and supporting an industry they feel does not respect the source material.
10th Jan '17 4:26:27 PM nombretomado
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** There is a small portion of the fandom that dislikes LittleKuriboh's Abridged Series (although they may have liked it at an earlier point in time), on the basis that it "twists" and "makes needless fun of the source material", with ''most likely unintended disservice'' to the spinoffs and their fanbases. (e.g. "I just realized what the "D" stands for in "Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's"! "DONTWATCHIT!" ")

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** There is a small portion of the fandom that dislikes LittleKuriboh's Creator/LittleKuriboh's Abridged Series (although they may have liked it at an earlier point in time), on the basis that it "twists" and "makes needless fun of the source material", with ''most likely unintended disservice'' to the spinoffs and their fanbases. (e.g. "I just realized what the "D" stands for in "Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's"! "DONTWATCHIT!" ")
30th Dec '16 3:14:19 PM RoseBride
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** With the fifth series Anime/YuGiOhArcV there was new split between its fans and the fans of the [[Anime/YuGiOhZexal Zexal]]; while the fandom as whole has ''always'' discussed which series is "better" to various levels of seriousness, you'll seldom find any consensus reached in between these two fanbases, let alone people who like both series, since they both think at worst lowly of the other, and at best tolerate its presence, the reasons vary according to who you ask, but mostly it seems like Arc V fans think of Zexal as the DorkAge of the franchise, while the Zexal fans look down on Arc V for considering it too ambitious or convoluted for their tastes.
11th Dec '16 1:41:40 AM Cindy67917
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** The 25th episode's differences from the corresponding manga chapters, including [[spoiler: Eren]] entering a sort of SuperMode while fighting [[spoiler: Annie]], Armin being replaced with Mikasa in some scenes, changing [[spoiler:how Annie was finally defeated and her crystallization scene]], and the [[spoiler: "Titans in the Wall"]] [[TheReveal reveal]] being delayed until the episode's end (meaning none of the characters saw it[[spoiler: well at least until the second compilation movie came out]]). Some fans claim the show is RuinedForever due to the changes in themes and character dynamics, some dislike the changes, but don't see them as a big deal, and some think the changes improve the plot.

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** The 25th episode's differences from the corresponding manga chapters, including [[spoiler: Eren]] entering a sort of SuperMode while fighting [[spoiler: Annie]], Armin being replaced with Mikasa in some scenes, changing [[spoiler:how Annie was finally defeated and her crystallization scene]], and the [[spoiler: "Titans in the Wall"]] [[TheReveal reveal]] being delayed until the episode's end (meaning none of the characters saw it[[spoiler: it,[[spoiler: well at least until the second compilation movie came out]]). Some fans claim the show is RuinedForever [[RuinedForever ruined forever]] due to the changes in themes and character dynamics, some dislike the changes, but don't see them as a big deal, and some think the changes improve the plot.
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