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16th May '16 5:45:59 PM Drope
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* ''Manga/BokuNoHeroAcademia'' fans have split ideas about Bakugou. A group sees he as a JerkSue and CreatorsPet that never had to face the consequences of the awful things he done to Midoriya, but still gets all the praise and attention from the heroes and teachers due to his powers and fighting abilities, it got worse after he [[spoiler: won the School Sports Tournament]]. Others see him as someone who is slowly being forced to take big gulps of HumblePie and going through strong CharacterDevelopment and argue that he had plenty of ButtMonkey moments and that he [[spoiler:did not liked his victory since Todoroki didn't use his fire powers to fight.]]

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* ''Manga/BokuNoHeroAcademia'' ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' fans have split ideas about Bakugou. A group sees he as a JerkSue and CreatorsPet that never had to face the consequences of the awful things he done to Midoriya, but still gets all the praise and attention from the heroes and teachers due to his powers and fighting abilities, it got worse after he [[spoiler: won the School Sports Tournament]]. Others see him as someone who is slowly being forced to take big gulps of HumblePie and going through strong CharacterDevelopment and argue that he had plenty of ButtMonkey moments and that he [[spoiler:did not liked his victory since Todoroki didn't use his fire powers to fight.]]
6th May '16 12:17:37 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** Also [[http://i.imgur.com/EILprDG.jpg Mikasa's abs]]. Some fans think it makes her hot, some find it to be a pleasantly refreshing body type for a female character, others don't really care while yet another handful of fans wish [[SelectiveSquick they've never seen it]] (which brings up all sorts of DoubleStandard issues with regards to the fan base).

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** Also [[http://i.imgur.com/EILprDG.jpg Mikasa's abs]]. Some fans think it makes her hot, some find it to be a pleasantly refreshing body type for a female character, others don't really care while yet another handful of fans wish [[SelectiveSquick they've never seen it]] it (which brings up all sorts of DoubleStandard issues with regards to the fan base).
4th May '16 9:31:42 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* The anime of VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi leaves fans somewhat... polarized. Whether it's an enjoyable anime and a decent adaptation, an enjoyable anime but a mediocre adaptation, or a downright awful adaptation that ''does not exist'' (seriously--there are people who do go as far to as to claim [[FanonDisContinuity the anime never existed)]], is not an issue you really want to bring up, especially if you've only seen the anime.

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* The anime of VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry leaves fans somewhat... polarized. Whether it's an enjoyable anime and a decent adaptation, an enjoyable anime but a mediocre adaptation, or a downright awful adaptation that ''does not exist'' (seriously--there are people who do go as far to as to claim [[FanonDisContinuity the anime never existed)]], is not an issue you really want to bring up, especially if you've only seen the anime.
24th Apr '16 6:59:53 PM Arcana4th
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* ''Manga/BokuNoHeroAcademia'' fans have split ideas about Bakugou. A group sees he as a JerkSue and CreatorsPet that never had to face the consequences of the awful things he done to Midoriya, but still gets all the praise and attention from the heroes and teachers due to his powers and fighting abilities, it got worse after he [[spoiler: won the School Sports Tournament]]. Others see him as someone who is slowly being forced to take big gulps of HumblePie and going through strong CharacterDevelopment and argue that he had plenty of ButtMonkey moments and that he [[spoiler:did not liked his victory since Todoroki didn't use his fire powers to fight.]]
** Also Mineta. Some see him as a LovableSexManiac and find his antics funny, other find him just plain annoying.
15th Apr '16 12:52:37 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ''Franchise/LoveLive School Idol Project'':
** Over the last episode of the anime's first season. Opinions are heavily split about Honoka's reactions to what happened in said episode, whether or not the actions taken by the rest of the group were justified, and some complained about how much more drama the episode had compared to most of the others.
** Whether people whose only exposure to the franchise is through ''School Idol Festival'' should be considered proper fans, a topic similar to arguments over ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' fans who have never played the games.
** The news that the voice actresses behind µ's would no longer be voicing or performing as the characters after April 2016 due to their contract expiring quickly divided the fanbase. Some fans are disappointed and think that it was too soon for them to break up, especially now that the franchise has gained so much popularity, while others are sad but still find it understandable since they'd been active since 2010, when the franchise started.
** While [[SubbingVsDubbing debates over whether the Japanese or English voicework is better]] is a staple of Western anime subculture, it's an especially sore point for this series, being one of the first idol anime to get an English dub. Is it good that it got a dub, making the series more accessible to Westerners, or does it do a disservice to µ's and their Japanese voice actors? Granted, the songs don't get dubbed into English, but it hasn't stopped fans from arguing about the English dub.
** As one can expect, fan opinions are divided over the Aqours group. Half of the fans gladly welcome the new group while the other half refuse to accept it or outright post hate comments just because [[FelonyMisdemeanor they aren't µ's.]] It became even more pronounced with the announcement that ''Sunshine!'' would receive an anime; many fans are excited for more idols, but others are calling SeasonalRot and a blatant attempt by Creator/{{Sunrise}} to milk the CashCowFranchise for all that it's worth, especially since it was hardly a year since ''[[TheMovie Love Live! The School Idol Movie]]'' was released. A lot of fans wish there would be a longer time between installments so to get to know
*** The casting of complete newcomers as Aquors's voice actresses (only one of them has had ''any'' acting experience) has split the fan opinion on the group even more, if that can be believed. Some fans are willing to give them a chance, saying that letting ordinary girls voice in such a popular series thanks to open auditions embodies the spirit of Japanese idol groups, while others are more critical and claim that they haven't proven their talent enough to deserve roles in a CashCowFranchise, point out that all of the µ's cast were established voice actresses/singers, and would prefer some more recognizable names in the cast.
** Nozomi's breast-grabbing is either cute, FetishFuel, or an [[DudeNotFunny unnecessary]] FanService element that borders on BlackComedyRape.
11th Apr '16 7:23:27 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** Official subs vs. fansubs.

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** Official subs vs. fansubs. Despite the advent of official streaming sites with translated subtitles like Crunchyroll and Daisuki, which many fans are thankful for due to allowing them to enjoy their favorite series fully and without guilt, there are those who refuse to touch these sites and continue to pirate fan-subtitled anime due to what they feel is subpar translation quality.
5th Apr '16 2:10:30 PM Willbyr
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* SaintSeiya and the "eternal" debate about who is the most powerful gold saint (and now, with the inclusion of more of them, in Lost Canvas and Next Dimension, and even Omega, the reign for supremacy has more candidates/challengers) Fun fact: the author already did many years ago a ranking list with the powers for the characters (at least for the original golden saints from the classic era), but since it just doesn´t have logic in some cases, and in others he favour some no so popular saints, most of the fanbase just give a fuck about his list...and their eternal struggle continues...

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* SaintSeiya ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' and the "eternal" debate about who is the most powerful gold saint (and now, with the inclusion of more of them, in Lost Canvas and Next Dimension, and even Omega, the reign for supremacy has more candidates/challengers) Fun fact: the author already did many years ago a ranking list with the powers for the characters (at least for the original golden saints from the classic era), but since it just doesn´t have logic in some cases, and in others he favour some no so popular saints, most of the fanbase just give a fuck about his list...and their eternal struggle continues...
24th Mar '16 1:35:11 PM Willbyr
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* While not as extreme as some others, the fanbase of [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Gurren Lagann]] still remains split as to whether the series' end is an incredibly heartfelt [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet ending]] or the writers [[BrokenAesop breaking their own aesop]] just to make an [[ShootTheShaggyDog overly and needlessly]] [[CruelTwistEnding cruel twist ending]].

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* While not as extreme as some others, the fanbase of [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Gurren Lagann]] ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' still remains split as to whether the series' end is an incredibly heartfelt [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet ending]] BittersweetEnding or the writers [[BrokenAesop breaking their own aesop]] just to make an [[ShootTheShaggyDog overly and needlessly]] [[CruelTwistEnding cruel twist ending]].CruelTwistEnding.
18th Mar '16 1:10:42 PM Willbyr
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* ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' Are the original [[Anime/TenchiMuyoRyoOhki OVAs]] the superior ''Tenchi'' series, or is TenchiUniverse better? Is the 3rd OVA legitimately good, okay but flawed, or a complete pile of crap? Is TenchiInTokyo a perfectly enjoyable spinoff, or is it a complete waste of time that [[{{Flanderization}} flanderizes]] all of the characters? Is [[TenchiMuyoGXP GXP]] a well-done sidestory that fleshes out the OVA's setting, or a [[FanService fanservice]]-filled mess of epic proportions? Should ''Anime/PrettySammy'' be considered a Tenchi series? Should the Tenchi Muyo manga be considered canon? The world may never know.

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* ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' Are the original [[Anime/TenchiMuyoRyoOhki OVAs]] the superior ''Tenchi'' series, or is TenchiUniverse ''Anime/TenchiUniverse'' better? Is the 3rd OVA legitimately good, okay but flawed, or a complete pile of crap? Is TenchiInTokyo ''Anime/TenchiInTokyo'' a perfectly enjoyable spinoff, or is it a complete waste of time that [[{{Flanderization}} flanderizes]] {{flanderiz|ation}}es all of the characters? Is [[TenchiMuyoGXP [[Anime/TenchiMuyoGXP GXP]] a well-done sidestory that fleshes out the OVA's setting, or a [[FanService fanservice]]-filled mess of epic proportions? Should ''Anime/PrettySammy'' be considered a Tenchi series? Should the Tenchi Muyo manga be considered canon? The world may never know.
11th Mar '16 8:18:44 PM JTurner82
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** Several dubs of Ghibli movies have had similarly heated debates: fans in general can't seem to unanimously agree about whether the Streamline dub or the {{Creator/Disney}} dub of ''Anime/KikisDeliveryService'', ''Anime/CastleInTheSky'', ''Anime/MyNeighborTotoro'', and ''Anime/PorcoRosso'' is superior. (All the more dubious because Carl Macek, who helmed the original dubs for ''Totoro'' and ''Kiki'', was dissatisfied with the original dub of ''Laputa'' , which was hastily made by an unknown company and picked up by them for distribution.). Likewise with ''Porco Rosso''.) Hey, even some fans think the new version of ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' is worse than the American edit of "Warriors of the Wind", despite the fact that is an almost word-for-word faithful adaptation of the original film script.

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** Several dubs of Ghibli movies have had similarly heated debates: fans in general can't seem to unanimously agree about whether the Streamline dub or the {{Creator/Disney}} dub of ''Anime/KikisDeliveryService'', ''Anime/CastleInTheSky'', ''Anime/MyNeighborTotoro'', and ''Anime/PorcoRosso'' is superior. (All the more dubious because Carl Macek, who helmed the original dubs for ''Totoro'' and ''Kiki'', was dissatisfied with the original dub of ''Laputa'' , which was hastily made by an unknown company and picked up by them for distribution.). Likewise with ''Porco Rosso''.) Hey, even some fans think the new version of ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'' is worse than the American edit of "Warriors of the Wind", despite the fact that it is an almost word-for-word faithful adaptation of the original film script.script!
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