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13th May '16 12:21:10 PM NNinja
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* In ''Series/TheFlash2014'' season two SuperSerum Velocity 9 gives that temporary SuperSpeed or improves it if one already has it is used as stand-in for performance-enchancing drugs in sports. At one point Barry is tempted to use V9 to level the playing field against evil speedster but is discouraged from it by Dr Wells. Message is pretty clear, but earlier in the series Jay Garrick was ''encouraged'' to use Velocity and 3 out of 4 times he used it he ended up saving the day thanks to it. Bonus points for Wells saying "Be like Jay" when discouraging Barry from doing [[{{Irony}} exacly what Jay did]].
13th May '16 12:04:58 PM NNinja
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** Also in season 1, Puck wants to be recognized as the father of Quinn's baby. Mercedes gives him a stern talking-to, saying Quinn has already chosen the man she wants to be her baby's father, and it's Finn. Who doesn't know it isn't his and has been led to believe that the baby is his responsibility whether he wants it or not. And doesn't know that Quinn cheated on him with his best friend. Yep, the decision is all Quinn's.

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** %%** Also in season 1, Puck wants to be recognized as the father of Quinn's baby. Mercedes gives him a stern talking-to, saying Quinn has already chosen the man she wants to be her baby's father, and it's Finn. Who doesn't know it isn't his and has been led to believe that the baby is his responsibility whether he wants it or not. And doesn't know that Quinn cheated on him with his best friend. Yep, the decision is all Quinn's.
11th May '16 1:42:01 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** There's some justification of this in that Sophia has had a stroke which removed her ability to censor her speech (however, they don't mention that in the episode at all, which would have prevented some of the cracks in the Aesop), while Rose is more naive than malicious (her only comment is "We weren't expecting you to be so fat," which is certainly rude, but not deliberately mean). But Blanche literally pulling her daughter away from the kitchen (where the cheesecake is waiting) still stings--as does the fact that the producers later recast Rebecca as a conventionally thin woman, with no reference to her previous weight struggles at all.
11th May '16 1:35:00 PM Gravidef
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*** There's some justification of this in that Sophia has had a stroke which removed her ability to censor her speech (however, they don't mention that in the episode at all, which would have prevented some of the cracks in the Aesop), while Rose is more naive than malicious (her only comment is "We weren't expecting you to be so fat," which is certainly rude, but not deliberately mean). But Blanche literally pulling her daughter away from the kitchen (where the cheesecake is waiting) still stings--as does the fact that the producers later recast Rebecca as a conventionally thin woman, with no reference to her previous weight struggles at all.
11th May '16 1:14:51 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' has more than a few, but a particular example would be the ending. The show, at great length, explores the questions of what makes us human, as well as what people and societies can do to survive without becoming monsters themselves. And at the end, the answer to these questions is... [[AssPull that technology will inevitably lead to killer robots who will try to destroy the human race, so we should all become Luddites and live in caves]]. Wait, what?
11th May '16 1:12:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** There's some justification of this in that Sophia had suffered a stroke earlier in the series which cost her her ability to censor her speech (granted, they could have ''mentioned'' this is in the episode), and Rose's comments are more naive than malicious. Furthermore, these two women are relative strangers to Rebecca; her future husband has a far greater impact on her life. Still, the shot of Blanche literally steering her daughter away from the kitchen where the cheesecake is undercuts the moral--especially when Rebecca comes back in later episodes, now played by a conventionally thin, attractive actress with no mention of her former weight problems.
11th May '16 1:02:58 PM Gravidef
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** One episode had a visit by Blanche's fat daughter, as she wants to introduce her mother to her boyfriend, who has just proposed. Problem is, the boyfriend is an asshole who verbally abuses her and makes cruel, rude comments about her weight. This is treated as unacceptable, and she dumps him in the end. The moral of the story breaks, because the whole first half of the epsiode involves some fat jokes being made at her expense (either by [[ScrewPolitenessImASenior snarky Sophia]] or by [[InnocentlyInsensitive dumb Rose]] ) and ends with Blanche suggesting they go outside rather than the previous intent to eat some cheesecake.

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** One episode had a visit by Blanche's fat daughter, as she estranged daughter Rebecca, who, during her time in Paris, has become [[FormerlyFit very overweight]]. Rebecca wants to introduce her mother to her boyfriend, who has just proposed. Problem is, the boyfriend is who's an asshole who asshole: he verbally abuses her and makes cruel, rude comments about her weight. This is treated as unacceptable, and she dumps him in the end. The But the moral of the story breaks, because the whole first half of the epsiode episode involves some fat jokes being made at her expense (either by [[ScrewPolitenessImASenior snarky Sophia]] or by [[InnocentlyInsensitive dumb Rose]] ) and ends with Blanche suggesting they go outside rather than the previous intent to eat some cheesecake.cheesecake.
*** There's some justification of this in that Sophia had suffered a stroke earlier in the series which cost her her ability to censor her speech (granted, they could have ''mentioned'' this is in the episode), and Rose's comments are more naive than malicious. Furthermore, these two women are relative strangers to Rebecca; her future husband has a far greater impact on her life. Still, the shot of Blanche literally steering her daughter away from the kitchen where the cheesecake is undercuts the moral--especially when Rebecca comes back in later episodes, now played by a conventionally thin, attractive actress with no mention of her former weight problems.
29th Apr '16 5:24:53 PM pinkdalek
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** "The Sunmakers" is supposed to be a right-wing allegory about how taxation is bad, written by an openly Conservative writer. However, ignoring a few throwaway flippant comments made by the Doctor, the story is really about the evil of taxation that targets the very poorest and strips away social safety nets so the untaxed rich can rake in massive profits. And it doesn't help that the reason for this situation is shown to be excessive privatisation, where every utility is run by corporate interests and the government is viewed only as an extension of the MegaCorp. The result is a story that comes across as being quite left-wing, although considering the way UK political discourse has shifted much further to the right than when the story was made it might not have looked so much at the time.

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** "The Sunmakers" is supposed to be a right-wing allegory about how taxation is bad, written by an openly Conservative writer. However, ignoring a few throwaway flippant comments made by the Doctor, the story is really about the evil of taxation that targets the very poorest in society, and strips societies that strip away social safety nets so the untaxed rich can rake in massive profits. And it doesn't help that the The reason for this situation is shown to be excessive privatisation, where every utility (including sunlight) is run by corporate interests and the government is viewed only as an extension of the MegaCorp. The result is a story that At the very least, it comes across as being quite left-wing, although considering left-wing in an Occupy kind of way. If you choose to read into the way UK political discourse has shifted much further to fact that the right than when the story was made Doctor wins by inspiring a populist revolt to execute their leaders while quoting Karl Marx, it might not have looked so much at the time.becomes actively ''Communist''. Not what you'd expect from something written by a Margaret Thatcher supporter in 1977.



** In the episode "Dalek" while the Doctor is certainly being unpleasant in torturing the LoneDalek he is treated as wrong for wanting to kill the Dalek and treating it as absolutely evil. However when the Dalek gets free it kills hundreds of people and it is clear it intends to wipe out all humanity. It does gain human feelings but is clearly an exception and Rose's sympathy towards it is largely born from ignorance, while the Doctor knows first-hand how dangerous the Daleks are and is proved right.

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** In the episode "Dalek" "Dalek", while the Doctor is certainly being unpleasant in torturing the LoneDalek Lone Dalek, he is treated as wrong for wanting to kill the Dalek and treating it as absolutely evil. However when the Dalek gets free it kills hundreds of people and it is clear it intends to wipe out all humanity. It does gain human feelings but is clearly an exception and Rose's sympathy towards it is largely born from ignorance, while the Doctor knows first-hand how dangerous the Daleks are and is proved right.
3rd Apr '16 10:33:34 AM Cameron178
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* ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' seems to be making a powerful statement about how unhealthy Stefan and Damon's relationship is, and how bad codependent relationships are in general this season. Everyone keeps telling Damon that Stefan is always suffering due to his selfish behaviour. While that is true, [[spoiler: the problem is that Stefan seems to be the one causing his own problems. First off, his blood feud with Julian, which he kept on pushing with Valerie's help, resulted in his mother's death and Damon being trapped in the phoenix stone. Then, when Damon had a nervous breakdown, he was willing to help, to stop when Damon revealed that he thought he had killed Elena (Enzo led him to believe that). Most recently, Stefan willingly went to Damon for help with Rayna, the vampire hunter, only to complain and fear that Damon would let him down. But, the reason he went to Damon in the first place was because Rayna was released by MATT, who is very angry with Stefan for something that happened during the three years that Damon was asleep that resulted in Matt's girlfriend's death. Maybe the moral is intended to be that "there are just some people you need to let go of", but it's coming off more like "if you have a problem, find an emotional punching bag and blame all of your troubles on that person instead."]]
30th Mar '16 3:36:35 PM PurpleAlert
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** There are a few episodes centering on what becomes of child pornography victims when they grow up, and a few of ''those'' focus on the lives of those victims who are constantly re-victimized because of how permanent the materials are once they hit the internet. The message is very clear: it may be easier for consumers of kiddie porn to convince themselves that they're not hurting anyone because they personally do not harm children and the kids they watch are no longer children by now, but they're still the reason there's a demand for kiddie porn to begin with, and those kids do indeed grow up into deeply scarred adults. It's a very consistent message across several episodes... and then we get an episode where a city official is an avid consumer of ''huge'' amounts of kiddie porn, but the SVU team works to get him the lightest possible sentence and express sympathy for him because his porn consumption wasn't hurting anyone.
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