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11th Jan '17 1:45:43 PM detghost
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*** It could be argued that Solas and Blackwall switch roles three times during the game. Initially, it seems that Blackwall, a gruff but humbly noble Grey Warden, is the Betty to Solas' bookish but arrogant and mysterious elven apostate. Blackwall then becomes the Veronica when [[spoiler: he is revealed to be a wanted, traitorous murderer impersonating a dead Grey Warden]]. The roles switch back when Blackwall [[spoiler: goes on a quest for redemption]] and Solas [[spoiler: is revealed to be the "evil" elven god of rebellion who plans to destroy the world]].

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*** It could be argued that Solas and Blackwall switch roles three times during the game. Initially, it seems that Blackwall, a gruff but humbly humble and noble Grey Warden, is the Betty to Solas' bookish but arrogant and mysterious elven apostate. Blackwall then becomes the Veronica when [[spoiler: he is revealed to be a wanted, traitorous murderer impersonating a dead Grey Warden]]. The roles switch back when it becomes clear Blackwall [[spoiler: is actually a good man now and goes on a quest for redemption]] and Solas [[spoiler: is revealed to be the "evil" elven god of rebellion who plans to destroy the world]].
11th Jan '17 1:42:00 PM detghost
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*** It could be argued that Solas and Blackwall switch roles three times during the game. Initially, it seems that Blackwall, a gruff but humbly noble Grey Warden, is the Betty to Solas' bookish but arrogant and mysterious elven apostate. Blackwall then becomes the Veronica when [[spoiler: he is revealed to be a wanted, traitorous murderer impersonating a dead Grey Warden]]. The roles switch back when Blackwall [[spoiler: goes on a quest for redemption]] and Solas [[spoiler: is revealed to be the "evil" elven god of rebellion who plans to destroy the world]].
11th Jan '17 1:23:51 PM detghost
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** Merrill versus Sebastian is harder to figure out, but as Sebastian is a pious, honorable human prince and Merrill, although good, is an elven outcast who practices forbidden blood magic, Merrill seems to be more of the Veronica. However, Sebastian was a Veronica in his youth and he does have a dark, vengeful, and arguably power-hungry side.
11th Jan '17 1:14:31 PM detghost
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*** Although a definite Veronica to Tali's Betty, Miranda takes the role of Betty when compared to Jack.
2nd Jan '17 9:00:42 AM MyFinalEdits
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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' has a few cases of this, most notably with the outgoing and flirtatious Amy (Veronica), to the shy and reserved Blaze (Betty).
** In ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'', shy and introverted Elise is the Betty to Amy's outspoken and independent Veronica.

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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' has a few cases of this, most notably with the outgoing and flirtatious Amy (Veronica), to the shy and reserved Blaze (Betty).
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(Betty). In ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'', shy and introverted Elise is the Betty to Amy's outspoken and independent Veronica.
2nd Jan '17 6:53:13 AM Truffle
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** In ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'', shy and introverted Elise is the Betty to Amy's forthright and outspoken Veronica.

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** In ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'', shy and introverted Elise is the Betty to Amy's forthright and outspoken and independent Veronica.
2nd Jan '17 6:50:55 AM Truffle
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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' has a few cases of this, most notably with the outgoing and flirtatious Amy (Veronica), to the shy and reserved Blaze (Betty).
** In ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'', shy and introverted Elise is the Betty to Amy's forthright and outspoken Veronica.
22nd Nov '16 5:28:04 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Depending on what you choose and [[RelationshipValues social links]], the main character of ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' can have this. Though his romantic life can go to many other female characters, Yukiko (Betty) and Chie (Veronica) can easily be this.



* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin'' has our protagonist Tatsuya (Archie) pick between Lisa (Betty), his fellow schoolmate who has a ''very'' obvious crush on him, and Maya (Veronica), a cheerful teen magazine reporter. However, this game also has a [[GayOption gay]] CherylBlossom in Jun. [[YaoiFangirl Guess which one the fangirls go for?]] Meanwhile, male gamers tend to lean towards Maya.
** Lisa and Maya's Betty and Veronica-ness is pretty subtly blended between them - the Lisa/Betty, Maya/Veronica dynamic only stands firm at first glance. Lisa is somewhat exotic to her Japanese peers, being of European descent, wealthy (look at her family's house!), and comes off as [[ProudBeauty a bit haughty]], playing up her Veronica-ness. Maya, on the other hand, is genuinely kind and supportive, of modest means, and though far from a YamatoNadeshiko is still the more quintessentially Japanese of the two insofar as what's considered "desirable" in a love interest.
* Then in ''Eternal Punishment'', when Maya becomes the protagonist, she also becomes a gender-inverted Archie on her own, with the [[SiblingTriangle Suou brothers]] as the love interests. The older brother Katsuya, being closer in age to Maya, [[TheComicallySerious earnest to a fault]], and {{Adorkable}} underneath it all, is the Betty, while Tatsuya here is the [[TheStoic stoical]], [[IneffectualLoner mysterious]], and [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys edgy]] Veronica.
* Some variants of this appear for the Social Links in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'': the male protagonist has three [[LoveInterest love interests]] among the playable party; he can hook up with two more [=NPC=]s and [[spoiler:possibly get his homeroom teacher]] to develop a crush on him as well, but his party members fit the dynamic better. [[TheOjou Mitsuru]], with all of her elegance, [[DefrostingIceQueen coolness]], and [[NonIdleRich absurd amount of wealth]] serves as the Veronica, while cheery and popular yet [[TheResenter unpleasant]] Yukari serves as the Betty. A twist on this trope is that Yukari [[ClingyJealousGirl becomes the jealous one]] if she's the chosen love interest. [[ShrinkingViolet Shy girl]] Fuuka Yamagishi functions as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, fitting neither category.
** The same thing applies if you pick a female protagonist in the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable version of the game: while he's seemingly aloof, [[BigManOnCampus Akihiko]] is actually a rather [[{{Adorkable}} awkward]], affable, and [[BigBrotherInstinct caring]] Betty, while the [[JerkassFacade brooding]] and [[SugarAndIceGuy unfriendly]] yet ultimately [[BruiserWithASoftCenter gentle]] Shinjiro is the Veronica. While both are similar in hiding their softer sides, Akihiko is more open and friendly than Shinjiro is. [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Ken]], once again, doesn't fit either category - not only is he more of a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, he's also [[{{Shotacon}} a kid]].
* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' has our protagonist dealing with four female party members like this: the tomboyish [[YouGoGirl Kung Fu enthusiast]] Chie and the [[YamatoNadeshiko proper and refined]], yet otherwise modest Yukiko are both Bettys, whereas the [[GenkiGirl excitable]] and [[TheTease flirtatious]] idol Rise and the [[TheStoic quiet,]] awkward [[SweetPollyOliver cross-dresser]] Naoto are Veronicas.

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Sin'' has our protagonist Tatsuya (Archie) pick between Lisa (Betty), his fellow schoolmate who has a ''very'' obvious crush on him, and Maya (Veronica), a cheerful teen magazine reporter. However, this game also has a [[GayOption gay]] CherylBlossom in Jun. [[YaoiFangirl Guess which one the fangirls go for?]] Meanwhile, male gamers tend to lean towards Maya.
** *** Lisa and Maya's Betty and Veronica-ness is pretty subtly blended between them - the Lisa/Betty, Maya/Veronica dynamic only stands firm at first glance. Lisa is somewhat exotic to her Japanese peers, being of European descent, wealthy (look at her family's house!), and comes off as [[ProudBeauty a bit haughty]], playing up her Veronica-ness. Maya, on the other hand, is genuinely kind and supportive, of modest means, and though far from a YamatoNadeshiko is still the more quintessentially Japanese of the two insofar as what's considered "desirable" in a love interest.
* *** Then in ''Eternal Punishment'', when Maya becomes the protagonist, she also becomes a gender-inverted Archie on her own, with the [[SiblingTriangle Suou brothers]] as the love interests. The older brother Katsuya, being closer in age to Maya, [[TheComicallySerious earnest to a fault]], and {{Adorkable}} underneath it all, is the Betty, while Tatsuya here is the [[TheStoic stoical]], [[IneffectualLoner mysterious]], and [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys edgy]] Veronica.
* ** Some variants of this appear for the Social Links in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'': the 3}}'':
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male protagonist has three [[LoveInterest love interests]] among the playable party; he can hook up with two more [=NPC=]s and [[spoiler:possibly get his homeroom teacher]] to develop a crush on him as well, but his party members fit the dynamic better. [[TheOjou Mitsuru]], with all of her elegance, [[DefrostingIceQueen coolness]], and [[NonIdleRich absurd amount of wealth]] serves as the Veronica, while cheery and popular yet [[TheResenter unpleasant]] Yukari serves as the Betty. A twist on this trope is that Yukari [[ClingyJealousGirl becomes the jealous one]] if she's the chosen love interest. [[ShrinkingViolet Shy girl]] Fuuka Yamagishi functions as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, fitting neither category.
** *** The same thing applies if you pick a female protagonist in the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable version of the game: while he's seemingly aloof, [[BigManOnCampus Akihiko]] is actually a rather [[{{Adorkable}} awkward]], affable, and [[BigBrotherInstinct caring]] Betty, while the [[JerkassFacade brooding]] and [[SugarAndIceGuy unfriendly]] yet ultimately [[BruiserWithASoftCenter gentle]] Shinjiro is the Veronica. While both are similar in hiding their softer sides, Akihiko is more open and friendly than Shinjiro is. [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Ken]], once again, doesn't fit either category - not only is he more of a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, he's also [[{{Shotacon}} a kid]].
* ** ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' has our protagonist dealing plays with this dynamic regarding the protagonist's relationships with the four female party members like this: members: Of the two second-year students, tomboyish [[YouGoGirl Kung Fu enthusiast]] Chie and is the Betty to the [[YamatoNadeshiko proper proper, refined, and refined]], yet otherwise modest Yukiko are both Bettys, elegantly beautiful]] Yukiko's Veronica, whereas regarding the first-year students, the [[GenkiGirl excitable]] and [[TheTease flirtatious]] idol Rise and is the Veronica to the [[TheStoic quiet,]] awkward quiet]], boyishly awkward, and [[SweetPollyOliver cross-dresser]] Naoto are cross-dressing]] detective Naoto's Betty. However, when comparing the second-years to the first-years, both Chie and Yukiko come off as GirlNextDoor-type Bettys compared to the more exotic and glamorous Rise's and Naoto's Veronicas.
26th Oct '16 1:39:36 AM defciggy
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** ''VideoGame/ArTonelico3'' play this straighter. Saki is very {{Moe}}, while Finnel is a {{Tsundere}} and [[TomBoy tom boyish]] club mascot who spends some times at the beginning trying to get close to the protagonist's best friend for a McGuffin.

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** ''VideoGame/ArTonelico3'' play this straighter. Saki is very {{Moe}}, while Finnel is a {{Tsundere}} and [[TomBoy tom boyish]] tomboyish]] club mascot who spends some times at the beginning trying to get close to the protagonist's best friend for a McGuffin.



* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin'' has our protagonist Tatsuya (Archie) pick between fellow school age student with an obvious crush on him Lisa (Betty), and the older teen magazine reporter and all around cheerful Maya (Veronica). However, this game also has a GayOption CherylBlossom with Jun. [[YaoiFangirl Guess which one a lot of the fangirls go for?]] (Male gamers tend to lean towards Maya). Then in Eternal Punishment, when Maya becomes the protagonist, she becomes the gender-inverted Archie on her own, with the [[SiblingTriangle Suou brothers]] as the love interests. The older brother Katsuya, that is closer in age to Maya, and have {{Adorkable}} and NiceGuy personality is the Betty, when Tatsuya here is the mysterious, edgy, TheStoic IneffectualLoner Veronica.
** Lisa and Maya's Betty and Veronica-ness is pretty subtly blended between them - the Lisa/Betty, Maya/Veronica dynamic only stands firm at first glance. Lisa is somewhat exotic (to her Japanese peers, being of European descent) and rich (look at her family's house), and she can easily be a bitch (especially to her school friends or anyone between her and Tatsuya), playing up her Veronica-ness. Maya, meanwhile, is very kind and supportive (genuinely so, not just trying to appeal to Tatsuya), of modest means, and though far from a YamatoNadeshiko is still the far more "traditional Japanese" choice of preferred woman between the two.
* Some variants of this appear for the Social Links in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'': the male protagonist has three [[LoveInterest love interests]] among the playable party; he can hook up with two more [=NPC=]s and [[spoiler:possibly get his homeroom teacher]] to develop a crush on him as well, but his party members fit the dynamic better. [[TheOjou Mitsuru]], with all of her elegance, [[DefrostingIceQueen coolness]], and [[NonIdleRich absurd amount of wealth]] serves as the Veronica, while cheery and popular yet [[TheResenter unpleasant]] Yukari serves as the Betty. A twist on this trope is that Yukari tends to [[ClingyJealousGirl become the jealous one]] if she's the chosen love interest. [[ShrinkingViolet shy girl]] Fuuka Yamagishi functions as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, fitting neither category.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin'' has our protagonist Tatsuya (Archie) pick between Lisa (Betty), his fellow school age student with an schoolmate who has a ''very'' obvious crush on him Lisa (Betty), him, and the older Maya (Veronica), a cheerful teen magazine reporter and all around cheerful Maya (Veronica). reporter. However, this game also has a GayOption [[GayOption gay]] CherylBlossom with in Jun. [[YaoiFangirl Guess which one a lot of the fangirls go for?]] (Male Meanwhile, male gamers tend to lean towards Maya). Then in Eternal Punishment, when Maya becomes the protagonist, she becomes the gender-inverted Archie on her own, with the [[SiblingTriangle Suou brothers]] as the love interests. The older brother Katsuya, that is closer in age to Maya, and have {{Adorkable}} and NiceGuy personality is the Betty, when Tatsuya here is the mysterious, edgy, TheStoic IneffectualLoner Veronica.
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** Lisa and Maya's Betty and Veronica-ness is pretty subtly blended between them - the Lisa/Betty, Maya/Veronica dynamic only stands firm at first glance. Lisa is somewhat exotic (to to her Japanese peers, being of European descent) and rich descent, wealthy (look at her family's house), house!), and she can easily be comes off as [[ProudBeauty a bitch (especially to her school friends or anyone between her and Tatsuya), bit haughty]], playing up her Veronica-ness. Maya, meanwhile, on the other hand, is very genuinely kind and supportive (genuinely so, not just trying to appeal to Tatsuya), supportive, of modest means, and though far from a YamatoNadeshiko is still the far more "traditional Japanese" choice quintessentially Japanese of preferred woman between the two.
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* Then in ''Eternal Punishment'', when Maya becomes the protagonist, she also becomes a gender-inverted Archie on her own, with the [[SiblingTriangle Suou brothers]] as the love interests. The older brother Katsuya, being closer in age to Maya, [[TheComicallySerious earnest to a fault]], and {{Adorkable}} underneath it all, is the Betty, while Tatsuya here is the [[TheStoic stoical]], [[IneffectualLoner mysterious]], and [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys edgy]] Veronica.
* Some variants of this appear for the Social Links in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'': the male protagonist has three [[LoveInterest love interests]] among the playable party; he can hook up with two more [=NPC=]s and [[spoiler:possibly get his homeroom teacher]] to develop a crush on him as well, but his party members fit the dynamic better. [[TheOjou Mitsuru]], with all of her elegance, [[DefrostingIceQueen coolness]], and [[NonIdleRich absurd amount of wealth]] serves as the Veronica, while cheery and popular yet [[TheResenter unpleasant]] Yukari serves as the Betty. A twist on this trope is that Yukari tends to [[ClingyJealousGirl become becomes the jealous one]] if she's the chosen love interest. [[ShrinkingViolet shy Shy girl]] Fuuka Yamagishi functions as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, fitting neither category.
18th Oct '16 4:38:16 PM DraceEmpressa
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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin'' has our protagonist Tatsuya (Archie) pick between fellow school age student with an obvious crush on him Lisa (Betty), and the older teen magazine reporter and all around cheerful Maya (Veronica). However, this game also has a GayOption CherylBlossom with Jun. [[YaoiFangirl Guess which one a lot of the fangirls go for?]] (Male gamers tend to lean towards Maya). Then in Eternal Punishment, when Maya becomes the protagonist, she becomes the gender-inverted Archie on her own, with the [[SiblingTriangle Suou brothers]] as the love interests. The older brother Katsuya, that is closer in age to Maya, and have, {{Adorkable}} and NiceGuy personality is the Betty, when Tatsuya here is the mysterious, egdy, TheStoic IneffectualLoner Veronica.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin'' has our protagonist Tatsuya (Archie) pick between fellow school age student with an obvious crush on him Lisa (Betty), and the older teen magazine reporter and all around cheerful Maya (Veronica). However, this game also has a GayOption CherylBlossom with Jun. [[YaoiFangirl Guess which one a lot of the fangirls go for?]] (Male gamers tend to lean towards Maya). Then in Eternal Punishment, when Maya becomes the protagonist, she becomes the gender-inverted Archie on her own, with the [[SiblingTriangle Suou brothers]] as the love interests. The older brother Katsuya, that is closer in age to Maya, and have, have {{Adorkable}} and NiceGuy personality is the Betty, when Tatsuya here is the mysterious, egdy, edgy, TheStoic IneffectualLoner Veronica.
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