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3rd Nov '17 8:44:52 PM DustSnitch
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** ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' has [[BadassPrincess Natalia]] [[InvokedTrope invoke]] this in regards to her main love options (and focus of her character development) [[spoiler: [[GoodIsNotSoft Asch]], the original ChildhoodFriend and the one behind the ChildhoodMarriagePromise is her Veronica, while [[AllLovingHero Luke]], the [[CloningBlues replica]] of the original, is her Betty in regards to personality. Those outside might consider it reversed due to Asch being the "legitimate" child and thus the "real" fiance while Luke is ultimately [[GodInHumanForm Lorelei]].]] As Abyss has a GainaxEnding, who she chooses is unknown.

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** ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' has [[BadassPrincess Natalia]] Natalia [[InvokedTrope invoke]] this in regards to her main love options (and focus of her character development) [[spoiler: [[GoodIsNotSoft Asch]], the original ChildhoodFriend and the one behind the ChildhoodMarriagePromise is her Veronica, while [[AllLovingHero Luke]], the [[CloningBlues replica]] of the original, is her Betty in regards to personality. Those outside might consider it reversed due to Asch being the "legitimate" child and thus the "real" fiance while Luke is ultimately [[GodInHumanForm Lorelei]].]] As Abyss has a GainaxEnding, who she chooses is unknown.



** Main character Eliwood has his choice of suitors from [[BadassPrincess Lyn]] (Betty), whom he's known a year, [[MysteriousWaif Ninian]] (Veronica), a girl he saved once but never saw again until his story starts, and [[SugarAndIcePersonality Fiora]] (CherylBlossom), who joins the last and latest.

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** Main character Eliwood has his choice of suitors from [[BadassPrincess Lyn]] Lyn (Betty), whom he's known a year, [[MysteriousWaif Ninian]] (Veronica), a girl he saved once but never saw again until his story starts, and [[SugarAndIcePersonality Fiora]] (CherylBlossom), who joins the last and latest.



** The "main" LoveTriangle of sorts has [[spoiler: Deirdre]] as the Archie, with the kind and knightly [[spoiler: Sigurd]] as Betty and the deeply troubled [[spoiler: Arvis]] as Veronica. [[spoiler: It ended '''horribly''', when Arvis '''killed''' Sigurd before decimating his army. Furthermore, Deirdre is Arvis' ''half-sister'', and [[SurpriseIncest he doesn't find out until long after he's already married her.]]]] At the same time, Prince Lewyn had his own Betty And Veronica in Ferry (serious LadyOfWar whom he knows since childhood) and Sylvia (sexy dancer who's been travelling with him lately) - you can choose whom he picks as his girlfriend/wife, alongside BadassPrincess Tiltyu as a CherylBlossom. [[spoiler: Though Thracia 776 has a clear slant towards Ferry]].

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** The "main" LoveTriangle of sorts has [[spoiler: Deirdre]] as the Archie, with the kind and knightly [[spoiler: Sigurd]] as Betty and the deeply troubled [[spoiler: Arvis]] as Veronica. [[spoiler: It ended '''horribly''', when Arvis '''killed''' Sigurd before decimating his army. Furthermore, Deirdre is Arvis' ''half-sister'', and [[SurpriseIncest he doesn't find out until long after he's already married her.]]]] At the same time, Prince Lewyn had his own Betty And Veronica in Ferry (serious LadyOfWar whom he knows since childhood) and Sylvia (sexy dancer who's been travelling with him lately) - you can choose whom he picks as his girlfriend/wife, alongside BadassPrincess Princess Tiltyu as a CherylBlossom. [[spoiler: Though Thracia 776 has a clear slant towards Ferry]].



** And ''then'', there's BadassPrincess Raquesis. Out of all her potential suitors (not counting [[BigBrotherAttraction Eldigan]], that is), Beowulf is a cynical PunchClockHero Veronica and Finn is a KnightInShiningArmor Betty. [[spoiler: ''Both'' of them might have won and then lost in ''Thracia'': it's all but stated that Raquesis's eldest son Delmud is Beo's kid, while her youngest daughter Nanna is Fin's, though Raquesis herself is missing in action.]]

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** And ''then'', there's BadassPrincess Princess Raquesis. Out of all her potential suitors (not counting [[BigBrotherAttraction Eldigan]], that is), Beowulf is a cynical PunchClockHero Veronica and Finn is a KnightInShiningArmor Betty. [[spoiler: ''Both'' of them might have won and then lost in ''Thracia'': it's all but stated that Raquesis's eldest son Delmud is Beo's kid, while her youngest daughter Nanna is Fin's, though Raquesis herself is missing in action.]]
27th Aug '17 10:16:09 AM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/ArTonelico'' series uses this on the twin token LoveInterest Aurica is sweet and quiet, while Misha is easy-going, cheerful, and has [[FountainOfYouth an exotic problem with her body.]]
** ''VideoGame/ArTonelico2'' has a local dive therapist Luca as Betty and the lady knight princess Cloche as Veronica. But after the series of [[CharacterDevelopment Character Developments]] their traits, personality wise, can be swapped.
** ''VideoGame/ArTonelico3'' play this straighter. Saki is very {{Moe}}, while Finnel is a {{Tsundere}} and [[TomBoy tomboyish]] club mascot who spends some times at the beginning trying to get close to the protagonist's best friend for a McGuffin.

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* ''VideoGame/ArTonelico'' series uses this on the ''VideoGame/ExaPico'' series:
** ''VideoGame/ArTonelicoMelodyOfElemia'': The
twin token LoveInterest Aurica is sweet and quiet, while Misha is easy-going, cheerful, and has [[FountainOfYouth an exotic problem with her body.]]
** ''VideoGame/ArTonelico2'' ''VideoGame/ArTonelicoIIMelodyOfMetafalica'' has a local dive therapist Luca as Betty and the lady knight princess Cloche as Veronica. But after the series of [[CharacterDevelopment Character Developments]] their traits, personality wise, can be swapped.
** ''VideoGame/ArTonelico3'' ''VideoGame/ArTonelicoQogaKnellOfArCiel'' play this straighter. Saki is very {{Moe}}, while Finnel is a {{Tsundere}} and [[TomBoy tomboyish]] club mascot who spends some times at the beginning trying to get close to the protagonist's best friend for a McGuffin.
16th Aug '17 12:24:35 PM SeptimusHeap
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*** The same thing applies if you pick a female protagonist in the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable version of the game: while he's seemingly aloof, [[BigManOnCampus Akihiko]] is actually a rather [[{{Adorkable}} awkward]], affable, and [[BigBrotherInstinct caring]] Betty, while the [[JerkassFacade brooding]] and [[SugarAndIceGuy unfriendly]] yet ultimately [[BruiserWithASoftCenter gentle]] Shinjiro is the Veronica. While both are similar in hiding their softer sides, Akihiko is more open and friendly than Shinjiro is. [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Ken]], once again, doesn't fit either category - not only is he more of a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, he's also [[{{Shotacon}} a kid]].

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*** The same thing applies if you pick a female protagonist in the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable version of the game: while he's seemingly aloof, [[BigManOnCampus Akihiko]] is actually a rather [[{{Adorkable}} awkward]], affable, and [[BigBrotherInstinct caring]] Betty, while the [[JerkassFacade brooding]] and [[SugarAndIceGuy unfriendly]] yet ultimately [[BruiserWithASoftCenter gentle]] Shinjiro is the Veronica. While both are similar in hiding their softer sides, Akihiko is more open and friendly than Shinjiro is. [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Ken]], once again, doesn't fit either category - not only is he more of a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, he's also [[{{Shotacon}} a kid]].kid.
7th Aug '17 2:24:20 PM RomanBowler
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** ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'' continues on with this dynamic towards the female party members as well: Interestingly, the two younger female members [[{{Hikikomori}} the severely (initially) agoraphobic]] Futaba and [[{{Mukokuseki}} the quarter Japanese]] Ann may seem like they have that Betty and Veronica dynamic respectively but it turns out that Ann is actually the Betty since she is [[NiceGirl one of the most kind-hearted characters out there]] while Futaba fits more into the Veronica once she breaks out of her shell [[ManicPixieDreamGirl by trolling on all the party members and being very excitable towards everything in Tokyo]]. The older female members, [[TheOjou the heiress to the Okumura Industries]] Haru and [[SweetAndSourGrapes the very conflicted student council president]] Makoto fits the dynamic better as Makoto's newly discovered question of authority contrast with Haru's cool, collected demeanor. Like ''Persona 4'', when comparing the older girls to the younger ones, Makoto and Haru's hard working, diligent behaviors makes them Bettys while Ann and Futaba's bubbly, irrelevant personalities fits more toward Veronicas.
7th Aug '17 1:42:45 PM RomanBowler
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** Initially, the two gay male romance options in ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda'', Gil and Reyes, had a very straightfoward Betty and Veronica dynamic for [[PlayerCharacter male Ryder.]] Gil is more laid back and friendly and develops a fairly traditional romance with Ryder if they begin a relationship, whereas Reyes is a dashing LovableRogue with a shady criminal past ([[spoiler:and present]]) who has a passionate, short-lived love affair with Ryder. In a series first, Ryder's male angaran squadmate Jaal was added as a bisexual romance option in a post-release patch, and he falls somewhere between the two (an exotic alien and initially aloof and distant but turns out to be a complete, head-over-heels in love sweetheart if romanced).

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** ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda'' has one Betty, one Veronica, and one third option for each gender and sexual orientation combination (other than if playing as a bisexual, in which case it gets increased to six) that seems to be between each side of this trope.
*** Straight male Ryders have Cora, Vetra, and Peebee. Cora is the Betty who, despite being trained by an asari military and having powerful biotic abilities, is a very straightforward second in command who has a lot of self doubts about herself and if romanced, wants to be swept under her feet. On the opposite end is Peebee as the Veronica, a hyperactive asari who often follows to the beat of her own drum and can go for a casual sexual relationship (although will respect your decision if you say you want it to have meaning first before you two do it) to a very romantic relationship that happens to have a lot of sex. Vetra rounds out both as the Cheryl Blossom who while isn't afraid of getting her hands dirty like a Veronica, would rather work things out rationally like a Betty and can spend time with her from mountain climbing and then having sex to cooking dinner (very badly).
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Initially, the two gay male romance options in ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda'', options, Gil and Reyes, had a very straightfoward Betty and Veronica dynamic for [[PlayerCharacter male Ryder.]] Ryder. Gil is more laid back and friendly and develops a fairly traditional romance with Ryder if they begin a relationship, whereas Reyes is a dashing LovableRogue with a shady criminal past ([[spoiler:and present]]) who has a passionate, short-lived love affair with Ryder. In a series first, Ryder's male angaran squadmate Jaal was added as a bisexual romance option in a post-release patch, and he falls somewhere between the two (an exotic alien and initially aloof and distant but turns out to be a complete, head-over-heels in love sweetheart if romanced).romanced).
*** Straight female romance options also have Reyes and Jaal who are still in their same position in the Betty and Veronica dynamic. Replacing Gil is Liam who while a bit hotheaded for a typical Betty, is arguably the most well adjusted out of all the party members and loves helping people.
*** Finally, lesbian Ryders keep Vetra and Peebee but drops Cora in exchange for Suvi, who is a scientist that happens to be very religious as well, there's a bit of adorkableness if you happen to romance her, as if two people who are very shy are trying to romance each other.
31st Jul '17 7:43:28 PM BigKlingy
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** The "main" LoveTriangle of sorts has [[spoiler: Deirdre]] as the Archie, with the kind and knightly [[spoiler: Sigurd]] as Betty and the deeply troubled [[spoiler: Arvis]] as Veronica. [[spoiler: It ended '''horribly''', when Arvis '''killed''' Sigurd before decimating his army.]] At the same time, Prince Lewyn had his own Betty And Veronica in Ferry (serious LadyOfWar whom he knows since childhood) and Sylvia (sexy dancer who's been travelling with him lately) - you can choose whom he picks as his girlfriend/wife, alongside BadassPrincess Tiltyu as a CherylBlossom. [[spoiler: Though Thracia 776 has a clear slant towards Ferry]].

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** The "main" LoveTriangle of sorts has [[spoiler: Deirdre]] as the Archie, with the kind and knightly [[spoiler: Sigurd]] as Betty and the deeply troubled [[spoiler: Arvis]] as Veronica. [[spoiler: It ended '''horribly''', when Arvis '''killed''' Sigurd before decimating his army.]] Furthermore, Deirdre is Arvis' ''half-sister'', and [[SurpriseIncest he doesn't find out until long after he's already married her.]]]] At the same time, Prince Lewyn had his own Betty And Veronica in Ferry (serious LadyOfWar whom he knows since childhood) and Sylvia (sexy dancer who's been travelling with him lately) - you can choose whom he picks as his girlfriend/wife, alongside BadassPrincess Tiltyu as a CherylBlossom. [[spoiler: Though Thracia 776 has a clear slant towards Ferry]].



*** The male protagonist has three [[LoveInterest love interests]] among the playable party; he can hook up with two more [=NPC=]s and [[spoiler:possibly get his homeroom teacher]] to develop a crush on him as well, but his party members fit the dynamic better. [[TheOjou Mitsuru]], with all of her elegance, [[DefrostingIceQueen coolness]], and [[NonIdleRich absurd amount of wealth]] serves as the Veronica, while cheery and popular yet [[TheResenter unpleasant]] Yukari serves as the Betty. A twist on this trope is that Yukari [[ClingyJealousGirl becomes the jealous one]] if she's the chosen love interest. [[ShrinkingViolet Shy girl]] Fuuka Yamagishi functions as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, fitting neither category.

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*** The male protagonist has three [[LoveInterest love interests]] among the playable party; he can hook up with two more [=NPC=]s and [[spoiler:possibly get his homeroom teacher]] to develop a crush on him as well, but his party members fit the dynamic better. [[TheOjou Mitsuru]], with all of her elegance, [[DefrostingIceQueen coolness]], and [[NonIdleRich absurd amount of wealth]] serves as the Veronica, while cheery and popular yet [[TheResenter unpleasant]] {{Tsundere}} Yukari serves as the Betty. A twist on this trope is that Yukari [[ClingyJealousGirl becomes the jealous one]] if she's the chosen love interest.Betty. [[ShrinkingViolet Shy girl]] Fuuka Yamagishi functions as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, fitting neither category. The UpdatedReRelease adds [[RobotGirl Aigis]], who combines elements of both. She's initially emotionless and mysterious before developing, like Veronica, but [[spoiler: turns out to be FirstGirlAfterAll]], putting her more in line with the Betty.
20th Jul '17 5:50:32 PM LovePsychothefirst
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** It's also [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] as, if it wasn't for TheReveal, it's likely Luke would have been the Archie in regards to [[DefrostingIceQueen Tear]] (Veronica) and [[ChildhoodMarriagePromise Natalia]] (Betty).

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** *** It's also [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] as, if it wasn't for TheReveal, it's likely Luke would have been the Archie in regards to [[DefrostingIceQueen Tear]] (Veronica) and [[ChildhoodMarriagePromise Natalia]] (Betty).
20th Jul '17 5:50:17 PM LovePsychothefirst
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** It's also [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] as, if it wasn't for TheReveal, it's likely Luke would have been the Archie in regards to [[DefrostingIceQueen Tear]] (Veronica) and [[ChildhoodMarriagePromise Natalia]] (Betty).
20th Jul '17 5:35:05 PM LovePsychothefirst
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** ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' has [[BadassPrincess Natalia]] [[InvokedTrope invoke]] this in regards to her main love options (and focus of her character development) [[spoiler: [[GoodIsNotSoft Asch]], the original ChildhoodFriend and the one behind the ChildhoodMarriagePromise is her Veronica, while [[AllLovingHero Luke]], the [[CloningBlues replica]] of the original, is her Betty in regards to personality. Those outside might consider it reversed due to Asch being the "legitimate" child and thus the "real" fiance while Luke is ultimately [[GodInHumanForm Lorelei]].]] As Abyss has a GainaxEnding, who she chooses is unknown.
21st Jun '17 10:50:02 AM MSRT
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** The Enhanced Edition of the game adds the awkward, goofy Neera. Definitely a Betty, but less so than Aerie.
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